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"Ziggy®" wrote in message ... "YukonBound" wrote in message ... "Harryk" wrote in message m... On 1/16/11 1:22 PM, I am Tosk wrote: In articlebc71c4d7-3609-4cdc-b702-4e19e2186358@ 29g2000yqq.googlegroups.com, says... On Jan 16, 12:25 pm, wrote: "Tim" wrote in message ... On Jan 15, 4:43 am, wrote: On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 09:38:57 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch wrote: On Jan 14, 10:45 am, wrote: On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 19:33:48 -0500, John wrote: Looks like that boat's made to take the seas! http://www.macgregor26.com/index/gale_2_min.htm Not really. Take another look at that video and notice that the seas are large but not breaking. That's because they are mature deep water waves that have reached full height for the wind conditions, and are not being impacted by current or shoaling conditions. That's the difference between windy but relatively benign conditions, and what you would encounter in a rapid onset Gulf Stream squall. I have flown over the Gulf Stream on days when the wind is blowing hard from the north against the current. You can see the waves breaking from 30,000 feet in the air, and that's about as close as you'd want to get. When I say beaching, I mean beaching in a place with protected shallow water where a deep draft boat cannot go. Furthermore, even with no motor, this boat is safer than most other powerboats without a motor as it has ballast so will not roll over as easily. It also has a centerboard to help it track true. With its sails as backup, it is far safer in the Gulf Stream than most powerboats without sail backup. Although the rigging is light, reefed sails can be put up. Of course nobody would take such a boat across in 30 kt winds but she would do well in such anyway. During the summer (thunderstorm) months you can find yourself in 40 to 60 knot winds on the Gulf Stream with almost no warning. Experienced east coast boaters like to head east before sunrise to minimize their chances of being caught by a storm during the crossing. I'm too big of a wimp. That doesn't sound like much fun to me. but it DOES sound exciting! ======== People do cross in bad conditions. I think they're just trying to help rid the pool of those unwanted stupid genes. A couple weeks of crap weather and you might get a "me or the boat" price on a nice vessel.... having sails as a backup is great. I agree... I think Wayne is going a bit extreme thinking that because someone has sails as a backup, they are going to try a crossing in bad weather. I think all here know it's a huge tradeoff, but I have seen similar sailing in the CT River in the Summer... Are there four to five foot breaking waves in the summer on the Connecticut River? Probably looks that way when you sit as 'low in the saddle' as Scotty. Wouldn't it be funny if Scotty turned out to be taller than you? -- Ziggy® I was ready to put up $2k as a bet... with Tom holding the cash. Scotty weased out of course. |
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On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 13:27:56 -0500, Harryk
wrote: Are there four to five foot breaking waves in the summer on the Connecticut River? It can get pretty gnarly at the mouth of the breakwater. All it takes is a strong ebb hitting a windy sou'wester. We got whacked there one day in our old 24 ft cuddy, very nasty and steep, probably 3 to 4 footers. |
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On 1/16/11 5:26 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 13:27:56 -0500, wrote: Are there four to five foot breaking waves in the summer on the Connecticut River? It can get pretty gnarly at the mouth of the breakwater. All it takes is a strong ebb hitting a windy sou'wester. We got whacked there one day in our old 24 ft cuddy, very nasty and steep, probably 3 to 4 footers. I haven't been on that river in a small boat in 50 years, and what little I recall was a flat calm day in the middle of summer. I remember the boat, though. It was a Lyman, a 15 or 16-footer, with an Evinrude, maybe a 33 or 35 hp, or something around that size. |
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YukonBound wrote:
"Ziggy®" wrote in message ... "YukonBound" wrote in message ... "Harryk" wrote in message m... On 1/16/11 1:22 PM, I am Tosk wrote: In articlebc71c4d7-3609-4cdc-b702-4e19e2186358@ 29g2000yqq.googlegroups.com, says... On Jan 16, 12:25 pm, wrote: "Tim" wrote in message ... On Jan 15, 4:43 am, wrote: On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 09:38:57 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch wrote: On Jan 14, 10:45 am, wrote: On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 19:33:48 -0500, John wrote: Looks like that boat's made to take the seas! http://www.macgregor26.com/index/gale_2_min.htm Not really. Take another look at that video and notice that the seas are large but not breaking. That's because they are mature deep water waves that have reached full height for the wind conditions, and are not being impacted by current or shoaling conditions. That's the difference between windy but relatively benign conditions, and what you would encounter in a rapid onset Gulf Stream squall. I have flown over the Gulf Stream on days when the wind is blowing hard from the north against the current. You can see the waves breaking from 30,000 feet in the air, and that's about as close as you'd want to get. When I say beaching, I mean beaching in a place with protected shallow water where a deep draft boat cannot go. Furthermore, even with no motor, this boat is safer than most other powerboats without a motor as it has ballast so will not roll over as easily. It also has a centerboard to help it track true. With its sails as backup, it is far safer in the Gulf Stream than most powerboats without sail backup. Although the rigging is light, reefed sails can be put up. Of course nobody would take such a boat across in 30 kt winds but she would do well in such anyway. During the summer (thunderstorm) months you can find yourself in 40 to 60 knot winds on the Gulf Stream with almost no warning. Experienced east coast boaters like to head east before sunrise to minimize their chances of being caught by a storm during the crossing. I'm too big of a wimp. That doesn't sound like much fun to me. but it DOES sound exciting! ======== People do cross in bad conditions. I think they're just trying to help rid the pool of those unwanted stupid genes. A couple weeks of crap weather and you might get a "me or the boat" price on a nice vessel.... having sails as a backup is great. I agree... I think Wayne is going a bit extreme thinking that because someone has sails as a backup, they are going to try a crossing in bad weather. I think all here know it's a huge tradeoff, but I have seen similar sailing in the CT River in the Summer... Are there four to five foot breaking waves in the summer on the Connecticut River? Probably looks that way when you sit as 'low in the saddle' as Scotty. Wouldn't it be funny if Scotty turned out to be taller than you? -- Ziggy® I was ready to put up $2k as a bet... with Tom holding the cash. Scotty weased out of course. #1 No you weren't. #2 What is "weased" in American? |
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On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 17:35:10 -0500, Harryk
wrote: On 1/16/11 5:26 PM, Wayne.B wrote: On Sun, 16 Jan 2011 13:27:56 -0500, wrote: Are there four to five foot breaking waves in the summer on the Connecticut River? It can get pretty gnarly at the mouth of the breakwater. All it takes is a strong ebb hitting a windy sou'wester. We got whacked there one day in our old 24 ft cuddy, very nasty and steep, probably 3 to 4 footers. I haven't been on that river in a small boat in 50 years, and what little I recall was a flat calm day in the middle of summer. I remember the boat, though. It was a Lyman, a 15 or 16-footer, with an Evinrude, maybe a 33 or 35 hp, or something around that size. === Up river is fine, down where it meets Long Island Sound, not always. |
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"L G" wrote in message ... I am Tosk wrote: In , says... YukonBound wrote: wrote in message ... wrote in message ... wrote in message m... On 1/16/11 1:22 PM, I am Tosk wrote: In articlebc71c4d7-3609-4cdc-b702-4e19e2186358@ 29g2000yqq.googlegroups.com, says... On Jan 16, 12:25 pm, wrote: "Tim" wrote in message ... On Jan 15, 4:43 am, wrote: On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 09:38:57 -0800 (PST), Frogwatch wrote: On Jan 14, 10:45 am, wrote: On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 19:33:48 -0500, John wrote: Looks like that boat's made to take the seas! http://www.macgregor26.com/index/gale_2_min.htm Not really. Take another look at that video and notice that the seas are large but not breaking. That's because they are mature deep water waves that have reached full height for the wind conditions, and are not being impacted by current or shoaling conditions. That's the difference between windy but relatively benign conditions, and what you would encounter in a rapid onset Gulf Stream squall. I have flown over the Gulf Stream on days when the wind is blowing hard from the north against the current. You can see the waves breaking from 30,000 feet in the air, and that's about as close as you'd want to get. When I say beaching, I mean beaching in a place with protected shallow water where a deep draft boat cannot go. Furthermore, even with no motor, this boat is safer than most other powerboats without a motor as it has ballast so will not roll over as easily. It also has a centerboard to help it track true. With its sails as backup, it is far safer in the Gulf Stream than most powerboats without sail backup. Although the rigging is light, reefed sails can be put up. Of course nobody would take such a boat across in 30 kt winds but she would do well in such anyway. During the summer (thunderstorm) months you can find yourself in 40 to 60 knot winds on the Gulf Stream with almost no warning. Experienced east coast boaters like to head east before sunrise to minimize their chances of being caught by a storm during the crossing. I'm too big of a wimp. That doesn't sound like much fun to me. but it DOES sound exciting! ======== People do cross in bad conditions. I think they're just trying to help rid the pool of those unwanted stupid genes. A couple weeks of crap weather and you might get a "me or the boat" price on a nice vessel.... having sails as a backup is great. I agree... I think Wayne is going a bit extreme thinking that because someone has sails as a backup, they are going to try a crossing in bad weather. I think all here know it's a huge tradeoff, but I have seen similar sailing in the CT River in the Summer... Are there four to five foot breaking waves in the summer on the Connecticut River? Probably looks that way when you sit as 'low in the saddle' as Scotty. Wouldn't it be funny if Scotty turned out to be taller than you? -- Ziggy® I was ready to put up $2k as a bet... with Tom holding the cash. Scotty weased out of course. #1 No you weren't. #2 What is "weased" in American? Tell the yappy little bitch from the north I didn't weasel out of anything. As if I saw his post.. Bonnie, I DON'T READ YOUR ****!. There now go back to your "little mans' syndrome", cause you got it bad... I'll be sure to pass that along. Your little girlfriend sure does talk tough for a Minnie Mouse. |
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