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L G[_15_] January 15th 11 03:42 AM

small boat refrigeration- or lack of
 
Harryk wrote:
On 1/14/11 5:43 PM, Jack. wrote:
On Jan 14, 5:14 pm, wrote:
On 1/14/11 4:29 PM, Jack. wrote:





On Jan 14, 3:26 pm, wrote:
wrote in
et...

"I am wrote in message
...
In articletqGdndaf0oMg8a3QnZ2dnUVZ_tGdn...@earthlink .com,
payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

On 1/14/11 10:25 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 21:21:13 -0500,
wrote:

An ice chest needs a constant supply of fresh ice. A small
electric
fridge does not, and some will actually make ice.

Ahh, but the electric 'fridge needs...electricity. There's no
free
lunch.

You don't have electricity on your boat? Most do these days,
and the
price of inverters has dropped down to the pocket change level.

I have all sorts of electricity on the new boat, but I have yet
to use
the refrigerators or icemaker, other than briefly, to ensure they
worked. I'm sure I'll use everything to excess this spring.

Yeah were sure too. As sure as we are you built that deck or
it's even
on your house.... *We are still looking* around of FaceBook to
see who's
pix you nicked..;)

Who is "we", mini-man?

http://www.classmates.com/directory/...e/list.htm?reg...


~Double Snerk!~
Damn! That boy's knees don't know each other even exist!
Ride a horse much? :-

You and flajim ziggy playing with each other again, jackoff?


It's kind of gay how you jump to donnie's defense, ya know?


Gay? Please. I wasn't working the gang showers in the Navy as flajim
was. Besides, Don and I have never met and never exchanged hot chats
on the phone, as you and your boys here do. -

Just daily emails, right?

YukonBound January 15th 11 04:33 AM

small boat refrigeration- or lack of
 


"Ziggy®" wrote in message
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"YukonBound" wrote in message
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"Harryk" wrote in message
m...
On 1/14/11 5:43 PM, Jack. wrote:
On Jan 14, 5:14 pm, wrote:
On 1/14/11 4:29 PM, Jack. wrote:





On Jan 14, 3:26 pm, wrote:
wrote in
et...

"I am wrote in message
...
In articletqGdndaf0oMg8a3QnZ2dnUVZ_tGdn...@earthlink .com,
payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

On 1/14/11 10:25 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 21:21:13 -0500,

wrote:

An ice chest needs a constant supply of fresh ice. A small
electric
fridge does not, and some will actually make ice.

Ahh, but the electric 'fridge needs...electricity. There's no
free
lunch.

You don't have electricity on your boat? Most do these days,
and
the
price of inverters has dropped down to the pocket change level.

I have all sorts of electricity on the new boat, but I have yet
to
use
the refrigerators or icemaker, other than briefly, to ensure they
worked. I'm sure I'll use everything to excess this spring.

Yeah were sure too. As sure as we are you built that deck or it's
even
on your house.... *We are still looking* around of FaceBook to see
who's
pix you nicked..;)

Who is "we", mini-man?

http://www.classmates.com/directory/...e/list.htm?reg...

~Double Snerk!~
Damn! That boy's knees don't know each other even exist!
Ride a horse much? :-

You and flajim ziggy playing with each other again, jackoff?

It's kind of gay how you jump to donnie's defense, ya know?


Gay? Please. I wasn't working the gang showers in the Navy as flajim
was.
Besides, Don and I have never met and never exchanged hot chats on the
phone, as you and your boys here do. -


mmmmm, that's why they stick so close together.


Back in Harry's day, gays *went allowed* to serve in the military. Harry
didn't serve. You can put two and two together, cant you.

--
Ziggy®


"went allowed"??


YukonBound January 15th 11 04:35 AM

small boat refrigeration- or lack of
 


"Jack." wrote in message
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On Jan 14, 6:19 pm, John H wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 17:32:31 -0500, Ziggy wrote:
"YukonBound" wrote in
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"Jack." wrote in message
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On Jan 14, 3:26 pm, Ziggy wrote:
"YukonBound" wrote in
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"I am Tosk" wrote in message
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In article ,
payer3389
@mypacks.net says...


On 1/14/11 10:25 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 21:21:13 -0500,

wrote:


An ice chest needs a constant supply of fresh ice. A small
electric
fridge does not, and some will actually make ice.


Ahh, but the electric 'fridge needs...electricity. There's no
free
lunch.


You don't have electricity on your boat? Most do these days,
and
the
price of inverters has dropped down to the pocket change
level.


I have all sorts of electricity on the new boat, but I have yet
to
use
the refrigerators or icemaker, other than briefly, to ensure
they
worked. I'm sure I'll use everything to excess this spring.


Yeah were sure too. As sure as we are you built that deck or it's
even
on your house.... *We are still looking* around of FaceBook to
see
who's
pix you nicked..;)


Who is "we", mini-man?


http://www.classmates.com/directory/...e/list.htm?reg...


~Double Snerk!~
Damn! That boy's knees don't know each other even exist!
Ride a horse much? :-


~~ Snerk ~~ y'all are assuming that is me in the picture.


I'd say it is a pretty safe assumption? Snerk I would be willing to
wager a toonie on it.


Sure got taken down quickly!- Hide quoted text -


That was our boy *not_ knock-knee'd_donnie* ROTFLMAO!!!

Too funny!! His son wasn't drunk. donnie couldn't fetch beer quick
enough with those legs to keep himself drunk, much less his son!!

What goes around, comes around...


Is that what you say to the 'Palm sisters' as you lather up??


YukonBound January 15th 11 04:37 AM

small boat refrigeration- or lack of
 


"L G" wrote in message
...
John H wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 19:21:48 -0800 (PST),
wrote:


The more I read, the more I'm convincing myself that i dont' need a
refrigerator on my boat.

http://forums.sbo.sailboatowners.com...ad.php?t=95807

for my purposes, it would be a draw in weight, finances and energy.
A well insulated cooler and a couple of bags of ice available at any
port or marina would be a better benefit. and I'll drop back to one 8-
D and one automotive battery and go back with a smaller and lower
powered alternator for better efficiency due to less drag and flywheel
effect. still gotta have the microwave and coffee maker, though.

I'll get it figured out

Whoops - hit the wrong button on last post.

We use the camper refrigerator a lot, but I believe we could easily
survive
without it. Peanut butter doesn't need refrigeration, nor does bread.
What more
could one want?

Grape jelly?


More like sour grapes for you, dummy!


Tim January 15th 11 05:10 AM

. small boat refrigeration- or lack of
 
On Jan 14, 8:38*pm, L G wrote:
I am Tosk wrote:
In articleuJSdnRzmqKO5P7LQnZ2dnUVZ_tKdn...@giganews. com,
says...


Tim wrote:


On Jan 12, 9:29 pm, I am * wrote:


In article83038536-c103-4a13-81bd-5985f50ed278
@o4g2000yqd.googlegroups.com, says...


The more I read, the more I'm convincing myself that i dont' need a
refrigerator on my boat.


http://forums.sbo.sailboatowners.com...ad.php?t=95807


for my purposes, it would be a draw in weight, *finances and energy.
A well insulated cooler and a couple of bags of ice available at any
port or marina would be a better benefit. and I'll drop back to one 8-
D and one automotive battery and go back with a smaller and lower
powered alternator for better efficiency due to less drag and flywheel
effect. still gotta have the microwave and coffee maker, though.


I'll get it figured out


Have you figured out how much weight you are adding all together? One of
the reasons I hate the idea of retrofitting a boat is the fact that you
"will" change the attitude of the boat in the water, it's waterline, and
handling... If you are lucky or plan accordingly, this will not be an
issue, but any compromise is going to hide itself till the **** hits the
fan anyway, so maybe you will never have it be an issue;)


--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - Pain is temporary, Glory is forever!


Oh yes,I have. The combined estimated weight of all the stuff i'd
planed on taking and the modified shelving/cabinets *is still less
than the boats cargo/person weight limit. *Now I'm backing up and
eliminating about an extra 175 lb. *Sure the boat will be heavier, but
hey... we're not going to be in a speed contest anyhow. and it won't
be hard to figure out where the boat will ride best by working the rpm
and trim.


if this was going to be a long trip cruiser things would be different,
but then again if it was gong to be a long term cruiser, it would be
bigger than a 23' boat too!


A 23' pontoon has got to be more forgiving than an 18'er. *Is it a tri-toon?


No, it's a monohull... I talked to Tim today and he is adding two
batteries, and a couple seat pedestal (boxes to replace pedestal poles
and hold electric and batteries noted previously. He also indicated a
couple tanks under the new floor but again they should be in the COB of
the boat really so they shouldn't make much difference with an 1100
pound capacity. Also note, he will always be in protected waters with
the boat..


A deck boat? *I though Tim had a pontoon?


Actually i do. a 30'r But the refrigeration is going on the 23'
Marguis V-hull

Wayne.B January 15th 11 11:04 AM

small boat refrigeration- or lack of
 
On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 14:53:38 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

In your situation Wayne, yes, i'd agree that the higher amped unit,
the better because you have too many constants pulling power all the
time and at throttle, that Detroit probably doesn't really know it's
there anyhow.


Believe it or not you can actually hear the 6-71 grunt for a split
second when I switch the bank of golf cart batteries online, no belt
slip however. We've put about 30 hours on the new Leece-Neville over
the last week and no issues so far.

If you get tired of horsing around those 8D batts you might consider a
pair or Trojan T-145s as a replacement. They also have better deep
cycle characteristics than most 8Ds.

Tim January 15th 11 12:04 PM

small boat refrigeration- or lack of
 
On Jan 15, 5:04*am, Wayne.B wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 14:53:38 -0800 (PST), Tim
wrote:

In your situation Wayne, yes, i'd agree that the higher amped unit,
the better because you have too many constants pulling power all the
time and at throttle, that Detroit probably doesn't really know it's
there anyhow.


Believe it or not you can actually hear the 6-71 grunt for a split
second when I switch the bank of golf cart batteries online, no belt
slip however. *We've put about 30 hours on the new Leece-Neville over
the last week and no issues so far.

If you get tired of horsing around those 8D batts you might consider a
pair or Trojan T-145s as a replacement. *They also have better deep
cycle characteristics than most 8Ds.


Oh, I can believe that could bog the engine on an initial pull, but
when stuff gets lined out the engine probably doesn't really know it's
there.

Concerning the batteries, well, a customer of mine has Cat equipment
and always keeps fresh Interstate batteries on shelf. he said i could
borrow one any time i wanted.

so.....

John H[_2_] January 15th 11 01:06 PM

small boat refrigeration- or lack of
 
On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 22:16:40 -0500, L G wrote:

John H wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 19:21:48 -0800 (PST), wrote:


The more I read, the more I'm convincing myself that i dont' need a
refrigerator on my boat.

http://forums.sbo.sailboatowners.com...ad.php?t=95807

for my purposes, it would be a draw in weight, finances and energy.
A well insulated cooler and a couple of bags of ice available at any
port or marina would be a better benefit. and I'll drop back to one 8-
D and one automotive battery and go back with a smaller and lower
powered alternator for better efficiency due to less drag and flywheel
effect. still gotta have the microwave and coffee maker, though.

I'll get it figured out

Whoops - hit the wrong button on last post.

We use the camper refrigerator a lot, but I believe we could easily survive
without it. Peanut butter doesn't need refrigeration, nor does bread. What more
could one want?

Grape jelly?


Jelly doesn't do well without a fridge. Gets runny. But orange marmalade, on the
other hand, was specifically designed to be eaten with peanut butter, and it
doesn't require refrigeration.

I thought you, of all people, would know that.

Harryk January 15th 11 01:10 PM

small boat refrigeration- or lack of
 
On 1/15/11 8:06 AM, John H wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 22:16:40 -0500, L wrote:

John H wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 19:21:48 -0800 (PST), wrote:


The more I read, the more I'm convincing myself that i dont' need a
refrigerator on my boat.

http://forums.sbo.sailboatowners.com...ad.php?t=95807

for my purposes, it would be a draw in weight, finances and energy.
A well insulated cooler and a couple of bags of ice available at any
port or marina would be a better benefit. and I'll drop back to one 8-
D and one automotive battery and go back with a smaller and lower
powered alternator for better efficiency due to less drag and flywheel
effect. still gotta have the microwave and coffee maker, though.

I'll get it figured out

Whoops - hit the wrong button on last post.

We use the camper refrigerator a lot, but I believe we could easily survive
without it. Peanut butter doesn't need refrigeration, nor does bread. What more
could one want?

Grape jelly?


Jelly doesn't do well without a fridge. Gets runny. But orange marmalade, on the
other hand, was specifically designed to be eaten with peanut butter, and it
doesn't require refrigeration.

I thought you, of all people, would know that.



Must be great fun to travel with you...peanut butter and jelly
sandwiches. Wowser.

Ziggy®[_4_] January 15th 11 03:04 PM

small boat refrigeration- or lack of
 
"YukonBound" wrote in message ...


"Ziggy®" wrote in message
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"YukonBound" wrote in message
...


"Harryk" wrote in message
m...
On 1/14/11 5:43 PM, Jack. wrote:
On Jan 14, 5:14 pm, wrote:
On 1/14/11 4:29 PM, Jack. wrote:





On Jan 14, 3:26 pm, wrote:
wrote in
et...

"I am wrote in message
...
In articletqGdndaf0oMg8a3QnZ2dnUVZ_tGdn...@earthlink .com,
payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

On 1/14/11 10:25 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 21:21:13 -0500,

wrote:

An ice chest needs a constant supply of fresh ice. A small
electric
fridge does not, and some will actually make ice.

Ahh, but the electric 'fridge needs...electricity. There's no
free
lunch.

You don't have electricity on your boat? Most do these days,
and
the
price of inverters has dropped down to the pocket change level.

I have all sorts of electricity on the new boat, but I have yet
to
use
the refrigerators or icemaker, other than briefly, to ensure they
worked. I'm sure I'll use everything to excess this spring.

Yeah were sure too. As sure as we are you built that deck or it's
even
on your house.... *We are still looking* around of FaceBook to see
who's
pix you nicked..;)

Who is "we", mini-man?

http://www.classmates.com/directory/...e/list.htm?reg...

~Double Snerk!~
Damn! That boy's knees don't know each other even exist!
Ride a horse much? :-

You and flajim ziggy playing with each other again, jackoff?

It's kind of gay how you jump to donnie's defense, ya know?


Gay? Please. I wasn't working the gang showers in the Navy as flajim
was.
Besides, Don and I have never met and never exchanged hot chats on the
phone, as you and your boys here do. -

mmmmm, that's why they stick so close together.


Back in Harry's day, gays *went allowed* to serve in the military. Harry
didn't serve. You can put two and two together, cant you.

--
Ziggy®


"went allowed"??


Sorry. I was still giggling over the little mystery boy standing in front of his little sailboat.

--
Ziggy®


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