. small boat refrigeration- or lack of
 

I am Tosk wrote:
In articleuJSdnRzmqKO5P7LQnZ2dnUVZ_tKdnZ2d@giganews. com,
says...

Tim wrote:

On Jan 12, 9:29 pm, I am wrote:


In article83038536-c103-4a13-81bd-5985f50ed278
@o4g2000yqd.googlegroups.com, says...





The more I read, the more I'm convincing myself that i dont' need a
refrigerator on my boat.




http://forums.sbo.sailboatowners.com...ad.php?t=95807




for my purposes, it would be a draw in weight, finances and energy.
A well insulated cooler and a couple of bags of ice available at any
port or marina would be a better benefit. and I'll drop back to one 8-
D and one automotive battery and go back with a smaller and lower
powered alternator for better efficiency due to less drag and flywheel
effect. still gotta have the microwave and coffee maker, though.




I'll get it figured out


Have you figured out how much weight you are adding all together? One of
the reasons I hate the idea of retrofitting a boat is the fact that you
"will" change the attitude of the boat in the water, it's waterline, and
handling... If you are lucky or plan accordingly, this will not be an
issue, but any compromise is going to hide itself till the **** hits the
fan anyway, so maybe you will never have it be an issue;)

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - Pain is temporary, Glory is forever!


Oh yes,I have. The combined estimated weight of all the stuff i'd
planed on taking and the modified shelving/cabinets is still less
than the boats cargo/person weight limit. Now I'm backing up and
eliminating about an extra 175 lb. Sure the boat will be heavier, but
hey... we're not going to be in a speed contest anyhow. and it won't
be hard to figure out where the boat will ride best by working the rpm
and trim.

if this was going to be a long trip cruiser things would be different,
but then again if it was gong to be a long term cruiser, it would be
bigger than a 23' boat too!


A 23' pontoon has got to be more forgiving than an 18'er. Is it a tri-toon?

No, it's a monohull... I talked to Tim today and he is adding two
batteries, and a couple seat pedestal (boxes to replace pedestal poles
and hold electric and batteries noted previously. He also indicated a
couple tanks under the new floor but again they should be in the COB of
the boat really so they shouldn't make much difference with an 1100
pound capacity. Also note, he will always be in protected waters with
the boat..


A deck boat? I though Tim had a pontoon?

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Harryk wrote:
On 1/13/11 7:53 AM, Tim wrote:
On Jan 13, 5:56 am, wrote:
On Jan 12, 10:21 pm, wrote:

The more I read, the more I'm convincing myself that i dont' need a
refrigerator on my boat.

http://forums.sbo.sailboatowners.com...ad.php?t=95807

for my purposes, it would be a draw in weight, finances and energy.
A well insulated cooler and a couple of bags of ice available at any
port or marina would be a better benefit. and I'll drop back to
one 8-
D and one automotive battery and go back with a smaller and lower
powered alternator for better efficiency due to less drag and
flywheel
effect. still gotta have the microwave and coffee maker, though.

I'll get it figured out

Check out these:

http://www.yeticoolers.com/categories/Tundra-Series/

I kept mine when I sold my Parker. Much less complicated than a boat
"refrigerator," and keeps food cold and safe for days, even in the
steamy weather we get in the summer in the Washington, D.C., area.

Those are tough. a customer of mine has one and he says they're the
best cooler going, and probably are. They also have the price tag to
go with them.

Wayne, I'd thought of investigating one of those types of boxes too.
but I look and figure on what all we've actually used a cooler for
throughout the year, and for our needs the expense is kinda
unjustifiable for an extremely high quality unit.

It would be different if we were going on outings for a week+ at a
time, but not so is the case.

besides I do have a Norcold 12v refrigerator that came from a older
wrecked camper. and I had ideas for that, but it's just too heavy and
bulky. so.....

And these things?

http://www.nextag.com/car-plug-in-cooler/products-html

Eh...


I'm embarrassed to admit that on our new boat, which has a generator
and an inverter and shore power, and a nice refrigerator and an ice
maker, I still use my Yeti cooler. We've only overnighted a couple of
times, but hope to take a couple of reasonable multi-day cruises this
coming season. Maybe I'll crank up the 'fridge. All I used it for at
the end of last season was as a place to store bottled water.
Classic WAFA bull****.

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John H wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jan 2011 19:21:48 -0800 (PST), wrote:


The more I read, the more I'm convincing myself that i dont' need a
refrigerator on my boat.

http://forums.sbo.sailboatowners.com...ad.php?t=95807

for my purposes, it would be a draw in weight, finances and energy.
A well insulated cooler and a couple of bags of ice available at any
port or marina would be a better benefit. and I'll drop back to one 8-
D and one automotive battery and go back with a smaller and lower
powered alternator for better efficiency due to less drag and flywheel
effect. still gotta have the microwave and coffee maker, though.

I'll get it figured out

Whoops - hit the wrong button on last post.

We use the camper refrigerator a lot, but I believe we could easily survive
without it. Peanut butter doesn't need refrigeration, nor does bread. What more
could one want?

Grape jelly?

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I am Tosk wrote:
In articleKvqdnbSID4yRj7LQnZ2dnUVZ_hudnZ2d@earthlink .com, payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

On 1/13/11 9:44 AM, YukonBound wrote:


wrote in message
...

On Jan 12, 10:21 pm, wrote:

The more I read, the more I'm convincing myself that i dont' need a
refrigerator on my boat.

http://forums.sbo.sailboatowners.com...ad.php?t=95807

for my purposes, it would be a draw in weight, finances and energy.
A well insulated cooler and a couple of bags of ice available at any
port or marina would be a better benefit. and I'll drop back to one 8-
D and one automotive battery and go back with a smaller and lower
powered alternator for better efficiency due to less drag and flywheel
effect. still gotta have the microwave and coffee maker, though.

I'll get it figured out

=====

Using ice is problematic for a lot of different reasons. Consider one
of these instead:

http://www.amazon.com/Engel-AC-Fridg.../dp/B001DE45EY

They run on either AC or 12v DC and use very little power, In
addition they can be either a fridge or a freezer, and have some uses
around the home or in your car/truck. We bought two prior to our
Caribbean cruise last year and they've been completely trouble free.
At homke we use them when entertaining on the patio.

Brother-in-law carries one of those in his pickup when working at his
semi-isolated cottage lot. (no power available except for his generator)


The guy who helped me with the deck carries a small microwave oven in
his F250. He likes his lunches hot. I offered to heat up his meals
indoors, but he has his truck decked out for "break comfort" and takes
advantage of its amenities.

Sure Harry...snerk


The guy without the trailer...

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On Jan 14, 6:19*pm, John H wrote:
On Fri, 14 Jan 2011 17:32:31 -0500, Ziggy wrote:
"YukonBound" wrote in et...

"Jack." wrote in message
....
On Jan 14, 3:26 pm, Ziggy wrote:
"YukonBound" wrote in
et...

"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

On 1/14/11 10:25 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 21:21:13 -0500,
wrote:

An ice chest needs a constant supply of fresh ice. *A small
electric
fridge does not, and some will actually make ice.

Ahh, but the electric 'fridge needs...electricity. There's no free
lunch.

You don't have electricity on your boat? *Most do these days, and
the
price of inverters has dropped down to the pocket change level..

I have all sorts of electricity on the new boat, but I have yet to
use
the refrigerators or icemaker, other than briefly, to ensure they
worked. I'm sure I'll use everything to excess this spring.

Yeah were sure too. As sure as we are you built that deck or it's even
on your house.... *We are still looking* around of FaceBook to see
who's
pix you nicked..;)

Who is "we", mini-man?

http://www.classmates.com/directory/...e/list.htm?reg....

~Double Snerk!~
Damn! *That boy's knees don't know each other even exist!
Ride a horse much? *:-

~~ Snerk ~~ * * y'all are assuming that is me in the picture.

I'd say it is a pretty safe assumption? Snerk I would be willing to wager a toonie on it.

Sure got taken down quickly!- Hide quoted text -

That was our boy *not_ knock-knee'd_donnie* ROTFLMAO!!!

Too funny!! His son wasn't drunk. donnie couldn't fetch beer quick
enough with those legs to keep himself drunk, much less his son!!

What goes around, comes around...

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Harryk wrote:
On 1/13/11 12:08 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
In ,
says...

In articleVb6dnQwvpM9Gh7LQnZ2dnUVZ_qednZ2d@giganews. com,
says...

On 1/13/11 9:54 AM, Harryk wrote:
On 1/13/11 9:44 AM, YukonBound wrote:


wrote in message
...

On Jan 12, 10:21 pm, wrote:
The more I read, the more I'm convincing myself that i dont'
need a
refrigerator on my boat.

http://forums.sbo.sailboatowners.com...ad.php?t=95807

for my purposes, it would be a draw in weight, finances and
energy.
A well insulated cooler and a couple of bags of ice available
at any
port or marina would be a better benefit. and I'll drop back to
one 8-
D and one automotive battery and go back with a smaller and lower
powered alternator for better efficiency due to less drag and
flywheel
effect. still gotta have the microwave and coffee maker, though.

I'll get it figured out

=====

Using ice is problematic for a lot of different reasons.
Consider one
of these instead:

http://www.amazon.com/Engel-AC-Fridg.../dp/B001DE45EY


They run on either AC or 12v DC and use very little power, In
addition they can be either a fridge or a freezer, and have some
uses
around the home or in your car/truck. We bought two prior to our
Caribbean cruise last year and they've been completely trouble
free.
At homke we use them when entertaining on the patio.

Brother-in-law carries one of those in his pickup when working at
his
semi-isolated cottage lot. (no power available except for his
generator)


The guy who helped me with the deck carries a small microwave oven in
his F250. He likes his lunches hot. I offered to heat up his meals
indoors, but he has his truck decked out for "break comfort" and
takes
advantage of its amenities.

Isn't that cute, Harry had someone "help" him with his deck. It
sounds
like "help" is a "Harryism" for "... and I helped".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POI5aMgxYFk

You did notice the contractor's trailer that Harry accidently got in
the
picture didn't you?!

No, that was a trailer he rented for the table saw he wouldn't be using,
so he could roll it up and down through the backyard instead of into the
basement right there, so nobody would steal it, in his great
neighborhood....snerk



Actually, the trailer was used to bring tools to the site, to store
tools, and to make trips to the lumberyard for certain bits and pieces
that were too large for my SUV. I had no interest in cluttering up the
finished lower level in this house with heavy construction tools,
sawdust, and mud. The floors on that level are all ceramic tile, about
1200 square feet of it.

My guess is that you leave your tools outside in the yard, with the
rest of the trash, right?
I'm not buying it. Maybe dumb Don will...

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Harryk wrote:
On 1/14/11 10:25 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 21:21:13 -0500,
wrote:

An ice chest needs a constant supply of fresh ice. A small electric
fridge does not, and some will actually make ice.

Ahh, but the electric 'fridge needs...electricity. There's no free
lunch.

You don't have electricity on your boat? Most do these days, and the
price of inverters has dropped down to the pocket change level.


I have all sorts of electricity on the new boat, but I have yet to use
the refrigerators or icemaker, other than briefly, to ensure they
worked. I'm sure I'll use everything to excess this spring.
Sure.

small boat refrigeration- or lack of
 

YukonBound wrote:


"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article , payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

On 1/14/11 10:25 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 21:21:13 -0500,
wrote:

An ice chest needs a constant supply of fresh ice. A small
electric
fridge does not, and some will actually make ice.

Ahh, but the electric 'fridge needs...electricity. There's no
free lunch.

You don't have electricity on your boat? Most do these days, and the
price of inverters has dropped down to the pocket change level.


I have all sorts of electricity on the new boat, but I have yet to use
the refrigerators or icemaker, other than briefly, to ensure they
worked. I'm sure I'll use everything to excess this spring.

Yeah were sure too. As sure as we are you built that deck or it's even
on your house.... *We are still looking* around of FaceBook to see who's
pix you nicked..;)

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - Pain is temporary, Glory is forever!

Who is "we", mini-man?
Nice contribution!

small boat refrigeration- or lack of
 

YukonBound wrote:


"Jack." wrote in message
...
On Jan 14, 3:26 pm, Ziggy® wrote:
"YukonBound" wrote in
et...

"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article ,
payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

On 1/14/11 10:25 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 21:21:13 -0500,
wrote:

An ice chest needs a constant supply of fresh ice. A small
electric
fridge does not, and some will actually make ice.

Ahh, but the electric 'fridge needs...electricity. There's no
free
lunch.

You don't have electricity on your boat? Most do these days,
and the
price of inverters has dropped down to the pocket change level.

I have all sorts of electricity on the new boat, but I have yet
to use
the refrigerators or icemaker, other than briefly, to ensure they
worked. I'm sure I'll use everything to excess this spring.

Yeah were sure too. As sure as we are you built that deck or it's
even
on your house.... *We are still looking* around of FaceBook to
see who's
pix you nicked..;)

Who is "we", mini-man?

http://www.classmates.com/directory/...e/list.htm?reg...


~Double Snerk!~
Damn! That boy's knees don't know each other even exist!
Ride a horse much? :-

~~ Snerk ~~ y'all are assuming that is me in the picture.
The bowlegged pipsqueak? Yup, that's you.

small boat refrigeration- or lack of
 

Harryk wrote:
On 1/14/11 5:17 PM, YukonBound wrote:


"Jack." wrote in message
...

On Jan 14, 3:26 pm, Ziggy® wrote:
"YukonBound" wrote in
et...

"I am Tosk" wrote in message
...
In article ,
payer3389
@mypacks.net says...

On 1/14/11 10:25 AM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Thu, 13 Jan 2011 21:21:13 -0500,

wrote:

An ice chest needs a constant supply of fresh ice. A small
electric
fridge does not, and some will actually make ice.

Ahh, but the electric 'fridge needs...electricity. There's no
free
lunch.

You don't have electricity on your boat? Most do these days,
and the
price of inverters has dropped down to the pocket change level.

I have all sorts of electricity on the new boat, but I have yet
to use
the refrigerators or icemaker, other than briefly, to ensure they
worked. I'm sure I'll use everything to excess this spring.

Yeah were sure too. As sure as we are you built that deck or it's
even
on your house.... *We are still looking* around of FaceBook to see
who's
pix you nicked..;)

Who is "we", mini-man?

http://www.classmates.com/directory/...e/list.htm?reg...


~Double Snerk!~
Damn! That boy's knees don't know each other even exist!
Ride a horse much? :-

~~ Snerk ~~ y'all are assuming that is me in the picture.


Flajim Ziggy was able to find one job after the Navy"

http://tinyurl.com/4h8t7yu
Nice job Googling for your boy. It was unsuccessful, of course.