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On 10/25/10 8:05 AM, John H wrote:
On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 00:23:02 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 13:15:55 -0400, John wrote: On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 11:44:38 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 11:15:47 -0400, wrote: Pretty nice here too. We went for a picnic at the beach today on the boat.. http://esteroriverheights.com/esteroweather.jpg Perfect! How's your lab doing? He is doing OK but he still has a running away problem. We have an appointment with a therapist tuesday. (free from Lab Rescue of Florida but I am going to give them a donation) Please let us know what he (she) says. My pointer bolted half a dozen times, but appears to be getting better about it. She doesn't go screaming out the front door if it's left open a bit too long. And, she doesn't bolt out of the front seat, over my lap, when I open the car door. The problem is not simply the running away. Mr Ed seems to actually have a total change in personality. He doesn't even look the same. There is a desperate look in his eyes and he seems totally deaf to anything you say to him. Usually he is very well behaved. The trainer says that is not unusual in Yellow Labs. Some are worse than others. I am curious what she comes up with. Ask that therapist for any quick recommendations on helping a dog overcome fear of automobiles (*not* motion sickness - fear). This stuff - Cerenia - http://tinyurl.com/buncyn - was prescribed by our vet, and works well to stop the vomiting. But it doesn't get rid of the fear. And, it's not for use on a long trip of several days or more. And, it ain't cheap! Ed doesn't have that problem at all. A car ride (or even a ride in my golf cart) seems to calm him down. That is how I go get him if he is really "off" Sometimes he will just come in the back door of the screen cage but he immediately jumps in the pool and won't come out. I get the same look. When mine bolts, it 's much the same thing. She responds to nothing, just runs as fast as she can. The last couple times, she actually returned. Time before last was at a campground, and we thought she was gone. She sailed around the outer perimeter of the campground and then hit the woods. I gave up chasing her, which did no good anyway. But, after about ten minutes she was found by my brother-in-law about 50 yards from the trailer. She was cowering on the ground in a 'don't beat me' mode. I think maybe her previous owners must have beat her every now and then. She's weird. This is an interesting contrast to our pet cats, all but one of whom were strays from the "outside" we adopted. None of these cats has any interest in going outside or running away. The last one we adopted, a 100% Maine coon cat, we took in when he was about six months old. He hung out with a pack of young raccoons and walked into the edge of our yard to mooch a meal. I caught him in a pet trap baited with sardines, took him to the vet for shots and a check for feline leukemia and brought him home. If I open the back door to go outside, he runs in the other direction. The only cat we have that does not do this is one we inherited from a neighbor in Florida. He was kept as an indoor/outdoor cat and will wander into the yard if we let him. We don't let him. I haven't had a dog for many years. The last one I had went outside on a leash or on an overhead run with a pulley and a lead attached to her collar. Out here, there are always posters on telephone poles offering rewards for pets, usually dogs, that have bolted, and there usually are dog carcasses on the side of the road. |
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On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 08:15:16 -0400, Secular Humouresque
wrote: On 10/25/10 8:05 AM, John H wrote: On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 00:23:02 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 13:15:55 -0400, John wrote: On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 11:44:38 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 11:15:47 -0400, wrote: Pretty nice here too. We went for a picnic at the beach today on the boat.. http://esteroriverheights.com/esteroweather.jpg Perfect! How's your lab doing? He is doing OK but he still has a running away problem. We have an appointment with a therapist tuesday. (free from Lab Rescue of Florida but I am going to give them a donation) Please let us know what he (she) says. My pointer bolted half a dozen times, but appears to be getting better about it. She doesn't go screaming out the front door if it's left open a bit too long. And, she doesn't bolt out of the front seat, over my lap, when I open the car door. The problem is not simply the running away. Mr Ed seems to actually have a total change in personality. He doesn't even look the same. There is a desperate look in his eyes and he seems totally deaf to anything you say to him. Usually he is very well behaved. The trainer says that is not unusual in Yellow Labs. Some are worse than others. I am curious what she comes up with. Ask that therapist for any quick recommendations on helping a dog overcome fear of automobiles (*not* motion sickness - fear). This stuff - Cerenia - http://tinyurl.com/buncyn - was prescribed by our vet, and works well to stop the vomiting. But it doesn't get rid of the fear. And, it's not for use on a long trip of several days or more. And, it ain't cheap! Ed doesn't have that problem at all. A car ride (or even a ride in my golf cart) seems to calm him down. That is how I go get him if he is really "off" Sometimes he will just come in the back door of the screen cage but he immediately jumps in the pool and won't come out. I get the same look. When mine bolts, it 's much the same thing. She responds to nothing, just runs as fast as she can. The last couple times, she actually returned. Time before last was at a campground, and we thought she was gone. She sailed around the outer perimeter of the campground and then hit the woods. I gave up chasing her, which did no good anyway. But, after about ten minutes she was found by my brother-in-law about 50 yards from the trailer. She was cowering on the ground in a 'don't beat me' mode. I think maybe her previous owners must have beat her every now and then. She's weird. This is an interesting contrast to our pet cats, all but one of whom were strays from the "outside" we adopted. None of these cats has any interest in going outside or running away. The last one we adopted, a 100% Maine coon cat, we took in when he was about six months old. He hung out with a pack of young raccoons and walked into the edge of our yard to mooch a meal. I caught him in a pet trap baited with sardines, took him to the vet for shots and a check for feline leukemia and brought him home. If I open the back door to go outside, he runs in the other direction. The only cat we have that does not do this is one we inherited from a neighbor in Florida. He was kept as an indoor/outdoor cat and will wander into the yard if we let him. We don't let him. I haven't had a dog for many years. The last one I had went outside on a leash or on an overhead run with a pulley and a lead attached to her collar. Out here, there are always posters on telephone poles offering rewards for pets, usually dogs, that have bolted, and there usually are dog carcasses on the side of the road. We've adopted four different cats over the past 20 years. None have ever bolted, although one from Germany would sneak out the back door once in a while. -- I hope your day is simply spectacular! John H |
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On Oct 25, 1:58*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 08:05:21 -0400, John H wrote: On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 00:23:02 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 13:15:55 -0400, John H wrote: On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 11:44:38 -0400, wrote: On Sun, 24 Oct 2010 11:15:47 -0400, "MMC" wrote: Pretty nice here too. We went for a picnic at the beach today on the boat.. http://esteroriverheights.com/esteroweather.jpg Perfect! How's your lab doing? He is doing OK but he still has a running away problem. We have an appointment with a therapist tuesday. (free from Lab Rescue of Florida but I am going to give them a donation) Please let us know what he (she) says. My pointer bolted half a dozen times, but appears to be getting better about it. She doesn't go screaming out the front door if it's left open a bit too long. And, she doesn't bolt out of the front seat, over my lap, when I open the car door. The problem is not simply the running away. Mr Ed seems to actually have a total change in personality. He doesn't even look the same. There is a desperate look in his eyes and he seems totally deaf to anything you say to him. Usually he is very well behaved. The trainer says that is not unusual in Yellow Labs. Some are worse than others. I am curious what she comes up with. Ask that therapist for any quick recommendations on helping a dog overcome fear of automobiles (*not* motion sickness - fear). This stuff - Cerenia - http://tinyurl.com/buncyn*- *was prescribed by our vet, and works well to stop the vomiting. But it doesn't get rid of the fear. And, it's not for use on a long trip of several days or more. And, it ain't cheap! Ed doesn't have that problem at all. A car ride (or even a ride in my golf cart) seems to calm him down. That is how I go get him if he is really "off" Sometimes he will just come in the back door of the screen cage but he immediately jumps in the pool and won't come out. I get the same look. When mine bolts, it 's much the same thing. She responds to nothing, just runs as fast as she can. The last couple times, she actually returned. Time before last was at a campground, and we thought she was gone. She sailed around the outer perimeter of the campground and then hit the woods. I gave up chasing her, which did no good anyway. But, after about ten minutes she was found by my brother-in-law about 50 yards from the trailer. She was cowering on the ground in a 'don't beat me' mode. I think maybe her previous owners must have beat her every now and then. She's weird. Ed just got back from his morning run. I am not sure where he went but these days he has a whole circuit of gopher tortoises he has to bark at and I heard him working his way down the FPL easement. A few minutes later he trotted in through the garage and jumped in the pool. I can almost live with that, *;-) He still would not get out of the pool and acted like he was in trouble. I finally got him in the house and he is pacing around. I did get some video for the trainer. The change in personality is really pronounced- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I would be real interested in that process. Has your trainer done any specific "drills" with the dog, or changed your behavior or way of communication/what message you send the dog? |
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On Oct 25, 3:38*pm, wrote:
On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 11:03:45 -0700 (PDT), "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!" wrote: I would be real interested in that process. Has your trainer done any specific "drills" with the dog, or changed your behavior or way of communication/what message you send the dog? Tomorrow is our first appointment. Mr Ed has some history tho. He was surrendered twice at the pound before I got him and he seems to know about shock collars, choke collars, knows how to open a slider and a regular chain link gate (with the U shaped latch) but he can jump over a 36" fence. He also knows how to open an in swing, lever handle door. I can see why they use labs for service dogs and I am wondering if that is where his lineage is. I had one dog like that. We were in the country so I didn't worry much about it, just tried to keep her happy and out of trouble ![]() |
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![]() wrote in message ... On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 11:03:45 -0700 (PDT), "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!" wrote: I would be real interested in that process. Has your trainer done any specific "drills" with the dog, or changed your behavior or way of communication/what message you send the dog? Tomorrow is our first appointment. Mr Ed has some history tho. He was surrendered twice at the pound before I got him and he seems to know about shock collars, choke collars, knows how to open a slider and a regular chain link gate (with the U shaped latch) but he can jump over a 36" fence. He also knows how to open an in swing, lever handle door. I can see why they use labs for service dogs and I am wondering if that is where his lineage is. You hear stories all the time about troublesome 'rescue dogs'. We weren't prepared to deal with that so we went out of our way researching breeders.... dropped down for a visit at the 2 or 3 week stage etc. Seems to have worked out so far... except my Springer freaks out at night when I walk him on a leash. Barks at everything. During the day at our off-leash park... nothing seems to bother him. |
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YukonBound wrote:
wrote in message ... On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 11:03:45 -0700 (PDT), "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!" wrote: I would be real interested in that process. Has your trainer done any specific "drills" with the dog, or changed your behavior or way of communication/what message you send the dog? Tomorrow is our first appointment. Mr Ed has some history tho. He was surrendered twice at the pound before I got him and he seems to know about shock collars, choke collars, knows how to open a slider and a regular chain link gate (with the U shaped latch) but he can jump over a 36" fence. He also knows how to open an in swing, lever handle door. I can see why they use labs for service dogs and I am wondering if that is where his lineage is. You hear stories all the time about troublesome 'rescue dogs'. We weren't prepared to deal with that so we went out of our way researching breeders.... dropped down for a visit at the 2 or 3 week stage etc. Seems to have worked out so far... except my Springer freaks out at night when I walk him on a leash. Barks at everything. During the day at our off-leash park... nothing seems to bother him. Your master Harry demanded that off-topic posts be marked OT. You have not complied. I was out of town for the past 10 days and I read this group by subject, not date, but I know his mandate preceded your post. |
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On 10/30/10 10:37 PM, L G wrote:
YukonBound wrote: wrote in message ... On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 11:03:45 -0700 (PDT), "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!" wrote: I would be real interested in that process. Has your trainer done any specific "drills" with the dog, or changed your behavior or way of communication/what message you send the dog? Tomorrow is our first appointment. Mr Ed has some history tho. He was surrendered twice at the pound before I got him and he seems to know about shock collars, choke collars, knows how to open a slider and a regular chain link gate (with the U shaped latch) but he can jump over a 36" fence. He also knows how to open an in swing, lever handle door. I can see why they use labs for service dogs and I am wondering if that is where his lineage is. You hear stories all the time about troublesome 'rescue dogs'. We weren't prepared to deal with that so we went out of our way researching breeders.... dropped down for a visit at the 2 or 3 week stage etc. Seems to have worked out so far... except my Springer freaks out at night when I walk him on a leash. Barks at everything. During the day at our off-leash park... nothing seems to bother him. Your master Harry demanded that off-topic posts be marked OT. You have not complied. I was out of town for the past 10 days and I read this group by subject, not date, but I know his mandate preceded your post. Maybe you should have stayed out of town, LG, er, Larry, er, Bob, er, DK, er, Dan Krueger. Most of here have moved on from your style of posting. |
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Secular Humouresque wrote:
On 10/30/10 10:37 PM, L G wrote: YukonBound wrote: wrote in message ... On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 11:03:45 -0700 (PDT), "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!" wrote: I would be real interested in that process. Has your trainer done any specific "drills" with the dog, or changed your behavior or way of communication/what message you send the dog? Tomorrow is our first appointment. Mr Ed has some history tho. He was surrendered twice at the pound before I got him and he seems to know about shock collars, choke collars, knows how to open a slider and a regular chain link gate (with the U shaped latch) but he can jump over a 36" fence. He also knows how to open an in swing, lever handle door. I can see why they use labs for service dogs and I am wondering if that is where his lineage is. You hear stories all the time about troublesome 'rescue dogs'. We weren't prepared to deal with that so we went out of our way researching breeders.... dropped down for a visit at the 2 or 3 week stage etc. Seems to have worked out so far... except my Springer freaks out at night when I walk him on a leash. Barks at everything. During the day at our off-leash park... nothing seems to bother him. Your master Harry demanded that off-topic posts be marked OT. You have not complied. I was out of town for the past 10 days and I read this group by subject, not date, but I know his mandate preceded your post. Maybe you should have stayed out of town, LG, er, Larry, er, Bob, er, DK, er, Dan Krueger. Most of here have moved on from your style of posting. Really? I haven't seen much evidence of that. |
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On Oct 25, 9:58*pm, I am Tosk wrote:
In article , says... On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 17:22:47 -0300, "YukonBound" wrote: wrote in message .. . On Mon, 25 Oct 2010 11:03:45 -0700 (PDT), "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!" wrote: I would be real interested in that process. Has your trainer done any specific "drills" with the dog, or changed your behavior or way of communication/what message you send the dog? Tomorrow is our first appointment. Mr Ed has some history tho. He was surrendered twice at the pound before I got him and he seems to know about shock collars, choke collars, knows how to open a slider and a regular chain link gate (with the U shaped latch) but he can jump over a 36" fence. He also knows how to open an in swing, lever handle door. |
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