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"Secular Humouresque" wrote in message m... On 10/18/10 10:31 AM, Frogwatch wrote: Took the Tolman to Lake Iamonia near Tallahassee yesterday just to explore its miles of "paths" through the lilypads. Obviously other boats follow these paths because they are generally clear of weeds. However, it is not good territory for the Tolman even though the boat is built for extreme small draft. Repeatedly bogged down the motor with balls of weeds on the prop and overheating. So, what is the technique in places like this? Is it just not a good place for a 90 hp motor? Unfortunately, I had locked the 9.8 kicker in the "up" position and had forgotten to take its key so I could not use it. I really wanted to explore but was afraid of getting stuck and the motor failing. Swimming or walking back is out of the question as this place is gator paradise. Passed numerous gator wallows and saw several gators from a distance. So, are places like this only for john boats with tiny motors (OK, airboats too)? Hire Scott Ingerfool to walk a few yards ahead of you and Loogy Ingerfool to walk a few yards behind... snip... Wouldn't Froggy get in trouble for polluting Florida's waterways? |
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On 10/18/10 1:47 PM, YukonBound wrote:
"Secular Humouresque" wrote in message m... On 10/18/10 10:31 AM, Frogwatch wrote: Took the Tolman to Lake Iamonia near Tallahassee yesterday just to explore its miles of "paths" through the lilypads. Obviously other boats follow these paths because they are generally clear of weeds. However, it is not good territory for the Tolman even though the boat is built for extreme small draft. Repeatedly bogged down the motor with balls of weeds on the prop and overheating. So, what is the technique in places like this? Is it just not a good place for a 90 hp motor? Unfortunately, I had locked the 9.8 kicker in the "up" position and had forgotten to take its key so I could not use it. I really wanted to explore but was afraid of getting stuck and the motor failing. Swimming or walking back is out of the question as this place is gator paradise. Passed numerous gator wallows and saw several gators from a distance. So, are places like this only for john boats with tiny motors (OK, airboats too)? Hire Scott Ingerfool to walk a few yards ahead of you and Loogy Ingerfool to walk a few yards behind... snip... Wouldn't Froggy get in trouble for polluting Florida's waterways? Not if they were boiled in soapy water first... :) -- Guns Don't Kill People -- Fundamentalist Religion Kills People! |
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Deep in the weeds
Frogwatch wrote:
Took the Tolman to Lake Iamonia near Tallahassee yesterday just to explore its miles of "paths" through the lilypads. Obviously other boats follow these paths because they are generally clear of weeds. However, it is not good territory for the Tolman even though the boat is built for extreme small draft. Repeatedly bogged down the motor with balls of weeds on the prop and overheating. So, what is the technique in places like this? Is it just not a good place for a 90 hp motor? Unfortunately, I had locked the 9.8 kicker in the "up" position and had forgotten to take its key so I could not use it. I really wanted to explore but was afraid of getting stuck and the motor failing. Swimming or walking back is out of the question as this place is gator paradise. Passed numerous gator wallows and saw several gators from a distance. So, are places like this only for john boats with tiny motors (OK, airboats too)? Minn Kota electric troller with weedless wedge prop. Don't go in the weeds unprepared. Air-cooled kicker with weed cutter prop is another option. But they're noisy s hell, and disturb swamp serenity. Your other option for the 90 hp is get a similar weed cutter prop for it and rig a weed strainer for the cooling water inlet ports. That's a big job and would only be done on a motor used primarily in the weeds at slow speeds. Not practical otherwise. Jim - Former swamper. |
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On 10/18/10 5:27 PM, MMC wrote:
"I am Tosk" wrote in message ... In article d702838a-407a-4f75-b099-025589235484 @t8g2000yqk.googlegroups.com, says... On Oct 18, 1:17 pm, "MMC" wrote: You can buy some real nice ones, made out of fiberglass. I found a home made one floating with 1 1/2 PVC pipe shot full of "great stuff" foam but it was still a little bendy for my taste. They put a "T" fitting on one end with short stubs of pipe and caps on them for a foot and cap the top end. The PVC would be enough to see if the idea would work in the weeds before spending time an $$ making or more $$ buying one. Good idea. Perhaps PVC with 1' long wood inserts at 3' intervals to stiffen it. Easy enough to try. Huh, I don't follow... Either way, I am still thinking the crosshatch with glass and resin, think "maypole" type weave along the length, that would stiffen it up nice I would think and be a lot lighter than wood... -- Can you imagine being the first President since President Carter, to be compared to President Carter? Maybe a telescoping pool net pole? Make a foot that uses the same snap in fixture as the net and keep the net on the boat too for fishing, shrimping and ball cap retrieval. I know they are fairly lightweight aluminum but should hold up to less than gorilla propulsion. Great idea if you don't value your time. -- Guns Don't Kill People -- Fundamentalist Religion Kills People! |
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"Secular Humouresque" wrote in message m... On 10/18/10 5:27 PM, MMC wrote: "I am Tosk" wrote in message ... In article d702838a-407a-4f75-b099-025589235484 @t8g2000yqk.googlegroups.com, says... On Oct 18, 1:17 pm, "MMC" wrote: You can buy some real nice ones, made out of fiberglass. I found a home made one floating with 1 1/2 PVC pipe shot full of "great stuff" foam but it was still a little bendy for my taste. They put a "T" fitting on one end with short stubs of pipe and caps on them for a foot and cap the top end. The PVC would be enough to see if the idea would work in the weeds before spending time an $$ making or more $$ buying one. Good idea. Perhaps PVC with 1' long wood inserts at 3' intervals to stiffen it. Easy enough to try. Huh, I don't follow... Either way, I am still thinking the crosshatch with glass and resin, think "maypole" type weave along the length, that would stiffen it up nice I would think and be a lot lighter than wood... -- Can you imagine being the first President since President Carter, to be compared to President Carter? Maybe a telescoping pool net pole? Make a foot that uses the same snap in fixture as the net and keep the net on the boat too for fishing, shrimping and ball cap retrieval. I know they are fairly lightweight aluminum but should hold up to less than gorilla propulsion. Great idea if you don't value your time. -- Guns Don't Kill People -- Fundamentalist Religion Kills People! I value my time too much to sit, stuck in the weeds. waiting for the gov't to come and "help". |
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wrote in message ... On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 17:27:36 -0400, "MMC" wrote: "I am Tosk" wrote in message ... In article d702838a-407a-4f75-b099-025589235484 @t8g2000yqk.googlegroups.com, says... On Oct 18, 1:17 pm, "MMC" wrote: You can buy some real nice ones, made out of fiberglass. I found a home made one floating with 1 1/2 PVC pipe shot full of "great stuff" foam but it was still a little bendy for my taste. They put a "T" fitting on one end with short stubs of pipe and caps on them for a foot and cap the top end. The PVC would be enough to see if the idea would work in the weeds before spending time an $$ making or more $$ buying one. Good idea. Perhaps PVC with 1' long wood inserts at 3' intervals to stiffen it. Easy enough to try. Huh, I don't follow... Either way, I am still thinking the crosshatch with glass and resin, think "maypole" type weave along the length, that would stiffen it up nice I would think and be a lot lighter than wood... -- Can you imagine being the first President since President Carter, to be compared to President Carter? Maybe a telescoping pool net pole? Make a foot that uses the same snap in fixture as the net and keep the net on the boat too for fishing, shrimping and ball cap retrieval. I know they are fairly lightweight aluminum but should hold up to less than gorilla propulsion. Poling is by nature gorilla propulsion. I doubt one of those net poles would hold up. If this is more than a once a year thing I would spring for a commercially built pole. The other thing you get with a real pole is the top is pointed so you can flip it over and anchor with it. Yeah, makes sense and even if the poles held the cam lock wouldn't. |
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On 10/18/10 7:50 PM, MMC wrote:
wrote in message ... On Mon, 18 Oct 2010 17:27:36 -0400, "MMC" wrote: "I am Tosk" wrote in message ... In article d702838a-407a-4f75-b099-025589235484 @t8g2000yqk.googlegroups.com, says... On Oct 18, 1:17 pm, "MMC" wrote: You can buy some real nice ones, made out of fiberglass. I found a home made one floating with 1 1/2 PVC pipe shot full of "great stuff" foam but it was still a little bendy for my taste. They put a "T" fitting on one end with short stubs of pipe and caps on them for a foot and cap the top end. The PVC would be enough to see if the idea would work in the weeds before spending time an $$ making or more $$ buying one. Good idea. Perhaps PVC with 1' long wood inserts at 3' intervals to stiffen it. Easy enough to try. Huh, I don't follow... Either way, I am still thinking the crosshatch with glass and resin, think "maypole" type weave along the length, that would stiffen it up nice I would think and be a lot lighter than wood... -- Can you imagine being the first President since President Carter, to be compared to President Carter? Maybe a telescoping pool net pole? Make a foot that uses the same snap in fixture as the net and keep the net on the boat too for fishing, shrimping and ball cap retrieval. I know they are fairly lightweight aluminum but should hold up to less than gorilla propulsion. Poling is by nature gorilla propulsion. I doubt one of those net poles would hold up. If this is more than a once a year thing I would spring for a commercially built pole. The other thing you get with a real pole is the top is pointed so you can flip it over and anchor with it. Yeah, makes sense and even if the poles held the cam lock wouldn't. Froggy should build himself another p.o.s. so he can continue to whine about his stuff failing him. I endorse Scott ingerfool's idea to buy a bannister from Home Despot and fiberglass it. That will surely made an adequate push pole. -- Guns Don't Kill People -- Fundamentalist Religion Kills People! |
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