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On 10/13/10 4:36 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 10:13:54 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 09:06:10 -0400, Wayne.B
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On Tue, 12 Oct 2010 22:13:08 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

That's the problem with entitlements. Once they're out there, they
become a sacred right. For a variety of reasons US manufacturing has
become uncompetetive in the world market place. Increased
entitlements and the resulting higher tax rates can only make the
problem worse. A service based economy can only take you so far.
Sooner or later you have to make something or have enough foreign
exchange to purchase it elsewhere. Right now we are extending IOUs to
fund our imports but sooner or later those chips will be called in.

So, which ones are you willing to give up? We have a fairly low tax rate
already, certainly vs. the rest of the world.

You conveniently miss the point: The discussion is/was about
starting new entitlements not getting rid of the existing ones. In
addition to having lower tax rates than many other countries, we also
have a much higher standard of living. Unfortunately that is likely
to change.

That is the thing people want to ignore.
Sure they have "free" health care in Canada but their tax rate is
about 20% higher than ours.
"Free" starts looking pretty expensive when you run your 1040 against
a Canadian tax return. They are online and simpler than ours so it is
not hard to try for yourself.
When I ran mine on the Ontario web site I would have been paying
$14,000 more in 2009 (I didn't try 2010 but that would have been worse
since 2010 was the lowest tax rate I have paid since 1965 ... when I
was in the service.)

Please tell us who is advocating a Canadian-style system? Nobody here,
except maybe some Canadians who like what they have.

What is the model you want to follow then? UK? Germany? Japan? Taiwan?

Switzerland. Seriously.

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