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... On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:27:26 -0400, "Harry ?" wrote: Speaking of soft car market. Went to get my cars oil changed at the local L/M dealer and didn't see a single car buying customer the whole time I was there. I am on my way to the dealer to get a timing belt for my old Prelude. That was $1000 a couple years ago(I passed). They are going to do it for $560 today with a coupon. The parts are almost $200 and it is a miserable job on a Prelude (there is no wheel well cover to remove, the strut support is right there). Those boys are hungry. I haven't been following the auto industry closely lately. I did dump my Ford stock a couple of months ago. I'm afraid to look to see if that was a bad decision. This pretty sums up the sentiment I am hearing about the GM IPO. This is just another ploy by Obama and his gang to give it to us up the ol' Hershey Highway. http://content.usatoday.com/communit...ock-offering/1 |
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On Sep 14, 10:54*am, I am Tosk
wrote: In article , says... On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:27:26 -0400, "Harry * ?" wrote: Speaking of soft car market. Went to get my cars oil changed at the local L/M dealer and didn't see a single car buying customer the whole time I was there. I am on my way to the dealer to get a timing belt for my old Prelude. That was $1000 a couple years ago(I passed). They are going to do it for $560 today with a coupon. The parts are almost $200 and it is a miserable job on a Prelude (there is no wheel well cover to remove, the strut support is right there). Those boys are hungry. I feel for them.. I thought I was gonna' have to do a waterpump on my wifes Eclipse, even a couple guys who do work on the side wanted nothing to do with it.. and one of them has a full setup in his garage with lift, parts washers, presses, etc... (not that you need a press for the job). Turned out it wasn't the pump, thank God... -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese! even a couple guys who do work on the side wanted nothing to do with it.. That's because YOU own it, and they KNEW you would stiff them on the bill....just like that $25,000 Hospital Bill, right Coward? |
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On Sep 14, 11:03*am, Secular Humorist
wrote: On 9/14/10 10:54 AM, I am Tosk wrote: In , says... On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:27:26 -0400, "Harry * ?" *wrote: Speaking of soft car market. Went to get my cars oil changed at the local L/M dealer and didn't see a single car buying customer the whole time I was there. I am on my way to the dealer to get a timing belt for my old Prelude. That was $1000 a couple years ago(I passed). They are going to do it for $560 today with a coupon. The parts are almost $200 and it is a miserable job on a Prelude (there is no wheel well cover to remove, the strut support is right there). Those boys are hungry. I feel for them.. I thought I was gonna' have to do a waterpump on my wifes Eclipse, even a couple guys who do work on the side wanted nothing to do with it.. and one of them has a full setup in his garage with lift, parts washers, presses, etc... (not that you need a press for the job). Turned out it wasn't the pump, thank God... Wonder what it would cost her to replace you for a man who had an actual job... $1.98 plus a book of S&H Green Stamps? That's too much for Skunk Head. A bag of Mike & Ike, and a bottle of Woo Hoo. |
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On Sep 14, 11:29*am, "Harry ?" wrote:
wrote in message ... On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:27:26 -0400, "Harry * ?" wrote: Speaking of soft car market. Went to get my cars oil changed at the local L/M dealer and didn't see a single car buying customer the whole time I was there. I am on my way to the dealer to get a timing belt for my old Prelude. That was $1000 a couple years ago(I passed). They are going to do it for $560 today with a coupon. The parts are almost $200 and it is a miserable job on a Prelude (there is no wheel well cover to remove, the strut support is right there). Those boys are hungry. I haven't been following the auto industry closely lately. I did dump my Ford stock a couple of months ago. I'm afraid to look to see if that was a bad decision. This pretty sums up the sentiment I am hearing about the GM IPO. This is just another ploy by Obama and his gang to give it to us up the ol' Hershey Highway.http://content.usatoday.com/communit...10/09/taxpayer... I did dump my Ford stock a couple of months ago. Sold the old F150, huh dickhead? |
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... On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 11:29:39 -0400, "Harry ?" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:27:26 -0400, "Harry ?" wrote: Speaking of soft car market. Went to get my cars oil changed at the local L/M dealer and didn't see a single car buying customer the whole time I was there. I am on my way to the dealer to get a timing belt for my old Prelude. That was $1000 a couple years ago(I passed). They are going to do it for $560 today with a coupon. The parts are almost $200 and it is a miserable job on a Prelude (there is no wheel well cover to remove, the strut support is right there). Those boys are hungry. I haven't been following the auto industry closely lately. I did dump my Ford stock a couple of months ago. I'm afraid to look to see if that was a bad decision. If you sold it in early July ($8-9) don't look. You will cry. If you caught the $13-14 on both sides of that dip you are OK. It is trading in the 12s today. I missed the big jump but I did get some bucks out of it from $8 to $12 before the July dip. I had a stop loss that traded on the way down. There was more money to be made but it is hard to hit bottoms and tops. (AKA time the market). Nobody ever went broke making a profit tho. Take what you can get. I did OK on that one but you don't win them all, unfortunately. |
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On Sep 14, 12:04*pm, I am Tosk
wrote: In article , says... "I am Tosk" wrote in message ... In article , says... On Tue, 14 Sep 2010 09:27:26 -0400, "Harry * ?" wrote: Speaking of soft car market. Went to get my cars oil changed at the local L/M dealer and didn't see a single car buying customer the whole time I was there. I am on my way to the dealer to get a timing belt for my old Prelude.. That was $1000 a couple years ago(I passed). They are going to do it for $560 today with a coupon. The parts are almost $200 and it is a miserable job on a Prelude (there is no wheel well cover to remove, the strut support is right there). Those boys are hungry. I feel for them.. I thought I was gonna' have to do a waterpump on my wifes Eclipse, even a couple guys who do work on the side wanted nothing to do with it.. and one of them has a full setup in his garage with lift, parts washers, presses, etc... (not that you need a press for the job). Turned out it wasn't the pump, thank God... -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese! Idler pulley? Radiator ;) At first I put a cardboard under and the dripmark suggested pump area but the glycol was traveling down a shroud, whew! I don't climb under cars without a lift, we lost a friend a few years back when a car slipped off the dolly and he was alone. -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese! Too bad it wasn't you, Skunk Head. |
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On 13-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote: Congress and losers buying everything foreign destroyed the economy. where's your proof? Examine imports of the U.S. and exports. For 40 years the U.S. has become a colony of places like Japan, Korea and China, shipping raw materials overseas and receiving finished products. The statistics are readily available even for you, Do your OWN homework. Perhaps you are too young to remmeber when automobiles, castings, forgings, steel, electronics, small home appliances, tools and dies, engineering and literally thousands of other items were "the economy." All you want is governemnt to control/enforce wages, but prioces will then need controls also. EVERYTHING is supply and demand wrong. we have a command economy managed by wall street to maximize its own benefits Up your Thorazine dosage...political party blather. - cell phones and bottled water are outrageously priced becaseu the market is willing to pay. Wages are EXACTLY the same, when labor, engineers, programmers, managers, factory rats etc. are not needed, their price (wages) go down. wrong. if that were the case EVERY country would have the same profile as the US in terms of wages Japan, Korea and China are not inundated by shoddy foreign merchandise, they are much brighter than U.S. political criminals and the lardass U.S. public. Skilled and educated workers are needed there; not so any longer in the U.S. so you're WRONG If demand ever returns for U.S. produced products (unlikely) demand for labor, engineers, programmers, managers, factory rats etc. will rise as well as the wages to attract the same. Lot's of trouble in logic class? guess you never heard of evidence, huh? oh. you're right wing More TV show idiocy - think for yourself, watch what has occurred over the past 30 years......political criminals will not, and cannot "help" you. |
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On 13-Sep-2010, "nom=de=plume" wrote: China. Gee...if only I just gave them a raise, even when they were no longer needed. That's the Obama nation. Sure you did. I hate to put up an ugly fact, but Bush was pres in 2005. Yet, you blame Obama. I wonder why. (Actually, I don't wonder.) You probably spends hours everyday wondering what the hell your belly button is. I have never blamed Obama, I have numerous times pointed out that the moronic masses that think he's the cure are incompetent. Straightening out the behavior of the ignorant masses is not a presidents job any way. And no, I couldn't care less that Obama's half black - I don't like most white rednecks either. |
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Obama and his hog will both pee in a glass - there's 2 choices, right?
- you have to be beyond help. |
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On 13-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote: Walmart requires their supplier to produce overseas whenever possible (for production of products that you might have been involved with.) (where you used to work) You participate, you're part of the problem. gee. you suggesting the middle class starve? oh. we already are, courtesy of the right wing You can stay out of the rain in your Nissan while you're starving. Natural selection always eventually perseveres. |
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"Colonel Kurtz" wrote in message ... On 13-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote: Congress and losers buying everything foreign destroyed the economy. where's your proof? Examine imports of the U.S. and exports. For 40 years the U.S. has become a colony of places like Japan, Korea and China, shipping raw materials overseas and receiving finished products. The statistics are readily available even for you, Do your OWN homework. Perhaps you are too young to remmeber when automobiles, castings, forgings, steel, electronics, small home appliances, tools and dies, engineering and literally thousands of other items were "the economy." All you want is governemnt to control/enforce wages, but prioces will then need controls also. EVERYTHING is supply and demand wrong. we have a command economy managed by wall street to maximize its own benefits Up your Thorazine dosage...political party blather. - cell phones and bottled water are outrageously priced becaseu the market is willing to pay. Wages are EXACTLY the same, when labor, engineers, programmers, managers, factory rats etc. are not needed, their price (wages) go down. wrong. if that were the case EVERY country would have the same profile as the US in terms of wages Japan, Korea and China are not inundated by shoddy foreign merchandise, they are much brighter than U.S. political criminals and the lardass U.S. public. Skilled and educated workers are needed there; not so any longer in the U.S. so you're WRONG If demand ever returns for U.S. produced products (unlikely) demand for labor, engineers, programmers, managers, factory rats etc. will rise as well as the wages to attract the same. Lot's of trouble in logic class? guess you never heard of evidence, huh? oh. you're right wing More TV show idiocy - think for yourself, watch what has occurred over the past 30 years......political criminals will not, and cannot "help" you. They're highly regulated societies. Is that what you want Mr. I-gave-up-on-the-US? |
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"Colonel Kurtz" wrote in message ... On 13-Sep-2010, "nom=de=plume" wrote: China. Gee...if only I just gave them a raise, even when they were no longer needed. That's the Obama nation. Sure you did. I hate to put up an ugly fact, but Bush was pres in 2005. Yet, you blame Obama. I wonder why. (Actually, I don't wonder.) You probably spends hours everyday wondering what the hell your belly button is. I have never blamed Obama, I have numerous times pointed out that the moronic masses that think he's the cure are incompetent. Straightening out the behavior of the ignorant masses is not a presidents job any way. And no, I couldn't care less that Obama's half black - I don't like most white rednecks either. You probably spent hours every day being angry with your lot in life. You've got to blame someone. Why not Obama? |
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On 9/16/10 3:50 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
"Colonel Kurtz" wrote in message ... On 13-Sep-2010, "nom=de=plume" wrote: China. Gee...if only I just gave them a raise, even when they were no longer needed. That's the Obama nation. Sure you did. I hate to put up an ugly fact, but Bush was pres in 2005. Yet, you blame Obama. I wonder why. (Actually, I don't wonder.) You probably spends hours everyday wondering what the hell your belly button is. I have never blamed Obama, I have numerous times pointed out that the moronic masses that think he's the cure are incompetent. Straightening out the behavior of the ignorant masses is not a presidents job any way. And no, I couldn't care less that Obama's half black - I don't like most white rednecks either. You probably spent hours every day being angry with your lot in life. You've got to blame someone. Why not Obama? His little business failed...so he's ****ed. |
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On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 19:22:48 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote: On 13-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote: Congress and losers buying everything foreign destroyed the economy. where's your proof? Examine imports of the U.S. and exports. and yet the rich in the US have gotten richer. exports account for only about 20% of GDP. why have the rich gotten MUCH wealthier in the US, vs the middle class? this is NOT seen in other countries yet you REFUSE to address this issue For 40 years the U.S. has become a colony of places like Japan, Korea and China, shipping raw materials overseas and receiving finished products. The statistics are readily available even for you, Do your OWN homework. Perhaps you are too young to remmeber when automobiles, castings, forgings, steel, electronics, small home appliances, tools and dies, engineering and literally thousands of other items were "the economy." the wealthy diecided they didn't want to pay a living wage to american workers. so they found dictatorships overseas to work for them and the right wing thinks this is great All you want is governemnt to control/enforce wages, but prioces will then need controls also. EVERYTHING is supply and demand wrong. we have a command economy managed by wall street to maximize its own benefits Up your Thorazine dosage...political party blather. again, you fail to address the GINI coefficient evidence. i have evidence. you have talk radio - cell phones and bottled water are outrageously priced becaseu the market is willing to pay. Wages are EXACTLY the same, when labor, engineers, programmers, managers, factory rats etc. are not needed, their price (wages) go down. wrong. if that were the case EVERY country would have the same profile as the US in terms of wages Japan, Korea and China are not inundated by shoddy foreign merchandise, what about france, germany, the UK, holland, sweden, the netherlands, finland, italy, etc etc etc... they do NOT see the wealthy getting richer and richer while the middle class suffers, like the US you, somehow, always ignore this. part of the right wing wet dream, i suppose |
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On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 19:27:19 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote: Obama and his hog will both pee in a glass - there's 2 choices, right? - you have to be beyond help. if i were beyond help i'd be republicrap |
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On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 19:28:50 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote: On 13-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote: Walmart requires their supplier to produce overseas whenever possible (for production of products that you might have been involved with.) (where you used to work) You participate, you're part of the problem. gee. you suggesting the middle class starve? oh. we already are, courtesy of the right wing You can stay out of the rain in your Nissan while you're starving. Natural selection always eventually perseveres. yeah the right wing has been preaching this for 150 years all the while complaining about darwin's atheism |
the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
On 16-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote: why have the rich gotten MUCH wealthier in the US, vs the middle class? this is NOT seen in other countries yet you REFUSE to address this issue I've explained it 50 times in words you should be able to understand. LAST time: 40 years ago - you want a automobile Mines were constructed to mine iron to make steel to process and put into tools that had to be designed, engineered and built in separate companies so designers could design a part to assemble to a vehicle that other engineers, metallurgists, chemists, capital equipment builders, machinery builders, paint manufacturers, trim designers engineers and assembly people could work in a plant built by steel makers, engineers, managers, architects and on and on and on and on - Today: A foreign company is offered a site at specialty rates (tax exemptions), are granted foreign trade zone status to avoid tariffs, import engineering, import management, import styling, import capital machinery, import tools and dies, import raw materials, put the pieces together with hicks at half the rate paid 25 years ago, and tell the ignorant masses its "made in America." Multiply that scenario by thousands of products and thousands of components and thousands of companies, and you have "the rich" getting richer and the ignorant masses taking it in the ass. It is my observation that the ignorant masses ENJOY taking it in the ass (with all due respect to Brawny Swank) as long as a criminal politician makes them "feel" better and promises meals on wheels or $300 to "make it all better. Use Vaseline, it's cheaper, and you don't have to vote to gain the thrill. If you don't grasp the demise of CORE industries in North America for the demise of the previous middle class, you're not paying attention or both of your brain cells are on non speaking terms. You should be ****ED about the demise of the U.S., instead of blaming an entity that has no connection to you and that you've never met or interacted with. You also do not have the right or priveledge to change the policies by the DC parasites that made it possible; you only have the option to not participate, but like most other "Americans," "somebody else do somehthing.!" Engage! |
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On 16-Sep-2010, "nom=de=plume" wrote: More TV show idiocy - think for yourself, watch what has occurred over the past 30 years......political criminals will not, and cannot "help" you. They're highly regulated societies. Is that what you want Mr. I-gave-up-on-the-US? They're capitalists, like the U.S. used to be long ago. When a (previously) 3rd world ******** like red China blows your doors off, you should notice something's wrong in your worker's paradise. |
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On 16-Sep-2010, Secular Humorist wrote: You probably spent hours every day being angry with your lot in life. You've got to blame someone. Why not Obama? His little business failed...so he's ****ed. It's flourishing overseas, shipping to the nitwits in the U.S. Should have done that 20 years ago instead of 3. Keep bringing it home as long as you can - when the U.S. reaches it last days, the Indian, Chinese and South American market is strong and will grow. The U.S. is toast. Bravo Foxtrot Delta. |
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On 16-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote: Obama and his hog will both pee in a glass - there's 2 choices, right? - you have to be beyond help. if i were beyond help i'd be republicrap Why do you worship political crime syndicates? That's your core problem. |
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On 16-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote: used to work) You participate, you're part of the problem. gee. you suggesting the middle class starve? oh. we already are, courtesy of the right wing You can stay out of the rain in your Nissan while you're starving. Natural selection always eventually perseveres. yeah the right wing has been preaching this for 150 years all the while complaining about darwin's atheism Couldn't care less about political crime syndicates, or Darwin - it is observable that when people do things to hurt themselves, they suffer. "Americans" do, they suffer, and the more competent will modify their behavior and survive. That portion makes up about 3% of the former U.S; 97% will be peasants. It's the individual's choice to decide their direction. Stop begging for handouts from the root of the problem. |
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On 9/22/10 1:17 PM, Colonel Kurtz wrote:
On 16-Sep-2010, Secular wrote: You probably spent hours every day being angry with your lot in life. You've got to blame someone. Why not Obama? His little business failed...so he's ****ed. It's flourishing overseas, shipping to the nitwits in the U.S. Should have done that 20 years ago instead of 3. Keep bringing it home as long as you can - when the U.S. reaches it last days, the Indian, Chinese and South American market is strong and will grow. The U.S. is toast. Bravo Foxtrot Delta. Gee, it's too bad we don't know the name and markets of the business you use to screw Americans...we could help publicize it for you. |
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"Colonel Kurtz" wrote in message ... On 16-Sep-2010, "nom=de=plume" wrote: More TV show idiocy - think for yourself, watch what has occurred over the past 30 years......political criminals will not, and cannot "help" you. They're highly regulated societies. Is that what you want Mr. I-gave-up-on-the-US? They're capitalists, like the U.S. used to be long ago. When a (previously) 3rd world ******** like red China blows your doors off, you should notice something's wrong in your worker's paradise. They're highly regulated societies, much further from capitalism than we are. Feel free to whine. |
the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
"Colonel Kurtz" wrote in message ... On 16-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote: why have the rich gotten MUCH wealthier in the US, vs the middle class? this is NOT seen in other countries yet you REFUSE to address this issue I've explained it 50 times in words you should be able to understand. LAST time: 40 years ago - you want a automobile Mines were constructed to mine iron to make steel to process and put into tools that had to be designed, engineered and built in separate companies so designers could design a part to assemble to a vehicle that other engineers, metallurgists, chemists, capital equipment builders, machinery builders, paint manufacturers, trim designers engineers and assembly people could work in a plant built by steel makers, engineers, managers, architects and on and on and on and on - Today: A foreign company is offered a site at specialty rates (tax exemptions), are granted foreign trade zone status to avoid tariffs, import engineering, import management, import styling, import capital machinery, import tools and dies, import raw materials, put the pieces together with hicks at half the rate paid 25 years ago, and tell the ignorant masses its "made in America." Multiply that scenario by thousands of products and thousands of components and thousands of companies, and you have "the rich" getting richer and the ignorant masses taking it in the ass. It is my observation that the ignorant masses ENJOY taking it in the ass (with all due respect to Brawny Swank) as long as a criminal politician makes them "feel" better and promises meals on wheels or $300 to "make it all better. Use Vaseline, it's cheaper, and you don't have to vote to gain the thrill. If you don't grasp the demise of CORE industries in North America for the demise of the previous middle class, you're not paying attention or both of your brain cells are on non speaking terms. You should be ****ED about the demise of the U.S., instead of blaming an entity that has no connection to you and that you've never met or interacted with. You also do not have the right or priveledge to change the policies by the DC parasites that made it possible; you only have the option to not participate, but like most other "Americans," "somebody else do somehthing.!" Engage! Sounds like you're the one who likes taking it up the ass... |
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"Colonel Kurtz" wrote in message ... On 16-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote: why have the rich gotten MUCH wealthier in the US, vs the middle class? this is NOT seen in other countries yet you REFUSE to address this issue I've explained it 50 times in words you should be able to understand. LAST time: 40 years ago - you want a automobile Mines were constructed to mine iron to make steel to process and put into tools that had to be designed, engineered and built in separate companies so designers could design a part to assemble to a vehicle that other engineers, metallurgists, chemists, capital equipment builders, machinery builders, paint manufacturers, trim designers engineers and assembly people could work in a plant built by steel makers, engineers, managers, architects and on and on and on and on - Today: A foreign company is offered a site at specialty rates (tax exemptions), are granted foreign trade zone status to avoid tariffs, import engineering, import management, import styling, import capital machinery, import tools and dies, import raw materials, put the pieces together with hicks at half the rate paid 25 years ago, and tell the ignorant masses its "made in America." Multiply that scenario by thousands of products and thousands of components and thousands of companies, and you have "the rich" getting richer and the ignorant masses taking it in the ass. It is my observation that the ignorant masses ENJOY taking it in the ass (with all due respect to Brawny Swank) as long as a criminal politician makes them "feel" better and promises meals on wheels or $300 to "make it all better. Use Vaseline, it's cheaper, and you don't have to vote to gain the thrill. If you don't grasp the demise of CORE industries in North America for the demise of the previous middle class, you're not paying attention or both of your brain cells are on non speaking terms. You should be ****ED about the demise of the U.S., instead of blaming an entity that has no connection to you and that you've never met or interacted with. You also do not have the right or priveledge to change the policies by the DC parasites that made it possible; you only have the option to not participate, but like most other "Americans," "somebody else do somehthing.!" Engage! Sounds like you're the one who likes taking it up the ass... Up yours. Snerk. |
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On 22-Sep-2010, "nom=de=plume" wrote: You should be ****ED about the demise of the U.S., instead of blaming an entity that has no connection to you and that you've never met or interacted with. You also do not have the right or priveledge to change the policies by the DC parasites that made it possible; you only have the option to not participate, but like most other "Americans," "somebody else do somehthing.!" Engage! Sounds like you're the one who likes taking it up the ass... I SOUND LIKE BAWNY FWANK?? |
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On 22-Sep-2010, "nom=de=plume" wrote: They're capitalists, like the U.S. used to be long ago. When a (previously) 3rd world ******** like red China blows your doors off, you should notice something's wrong in your worker's paradise. They're highly regulated societies, much further from capitalism than we are. Feel free to whine. Then what is everyone complaining about? Your industries are gone, marketing companies with minimum wage gum chewing clerks in ugly blue vests are the new "middle class." All is rosy! |
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On 22-Sep-2010, Secular Humorist wrote: It's flourishing overseas, shipping to the nitwits in the U.S. Should have done that 20 years ago instead of 3. Keep bringing it home as long as you can - when the U.S. reaches it last days, the Indian, Chinese and South American market is strong and will grow. The U.S. is toast. Bravo Foxtrot Delta. Gee, it's too bad we don't know the name and markets of the business you use to screw Americans...we could help publicize it for you. I pay for advertising, there's no such thing as "free." Just keep dragging it home. |
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"Colonel Kurtz" wrote in message ...
On 22-Sep-2010, "nom=de=plume" wrote: You should be ****ED about the demise of the U.S., instead of blaming an entity that has no connection to you and that you've never met or interacted with. You also do not have the right or priveledge to change the policies by the DC parasites that made it possible; you only have the option to not participate, but like most other "Americans," "somebody else do somehthing.!" Engage! Sounds like you're the one who likes taking it up the ass... I SOUND LIKE BAWNY FWANK?? Here's hoping Bawney takes it up the ass in November. |
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On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:11:38 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote: On 16-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote: why have the rich gotten MUCH wealthier in the US, vs the middle class? this is NOT seen in other countries yet you REFUSE to address this issue I've explained it 50 times in words you should be able to understand. LAST time: 40 years ago - you want a automobile Mines were constructed to mine iron to make steel to process and put into tools that had to be designed, engineered and built in separate companies so designers could design a part to assemble to a vehicle that other engineers, metallurgists, chemists, capital equipment builders, machinery builders, paint manufacturers, trim designers engineers and assembly people could work in a plant built by steel makers, engineers, managers, architects and on and on and on and on - biggest factor in decrease of steel mills plastic cars. i'm a chemical engineer from pittsburgh. i know a BIT about manufacturing and the steel industry. Today: A foreign company is offered a site at specialty rates (tax exemptions), are granted foreign trade zone status to avoid tariffs IOW subsidies...taxes on working people in those countries... US companies went overseas while our right wing reaganites and george bushes didn't tax imports to level the playing field thanks, wall street. Use Vaseline, it's cheaper, and you don't have to vote to gain the thrill. you know NOTHING of technology or economics. you have never taken ANY coursework in any of these If you don't grasp the demise of CORE industries in North America for the demise of the previous middle class, you're not paying attention or both of your brain cells are on non speaking terms. you have your right wing delusions. i have the evidence You should be ****ED about the demise of the U.S., instead of blaming an entity that has no connection to you really? has no connection to me? wall street sucked up ALL the equity in the country, paid BILLIONS in bonuses to top executives and that has no connection to me?? what planet you from? |
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On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:18:30 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote: On 16-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote: Obama and his hog will both pee in a glass - there's 2 choices, right? - you have to be beyond help. if i were beyond help i'd be republicrap Why do you worship political crime syndicates? That's your core problem. do you get a volume discount on meaningless cliches? |
the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 17:22:03 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote: On 16-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote: used to work) You participate, you're part of the problem. gee. you suggesting the middle class starve? oh. we already are, courtesy of the right wing You can stay out of the rain in your Nissan while you're starving. Natural selection always eventually perseveres. yeah the right wing has been preaching this for 150 years all the while complaining about darwin's atheism Couldn't care less about political crime syndicates, or Darwin - it is observable that when people do things to hurt themselves, they suffer. "Americans" do, they suffer, yeah. t hey keep voting right wing and the more competent will modify their behavior and survive. That portion makes up about 3% of the former U.S; 97% will be peasants. It's the individual's choice to decide their direction. Stop begging for handouts from the root of the problem. meaningless cliche 1100. |
the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:55:45 -0400, wrote:
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 19:19:36 -0400, bpuharic wrote: US companies went overseas while our right wing reaganites and george bushes didn't tax imports to level the playing field True but you forgot the 4th Bush brother ... and the current one it turns out. you mean the ones who are bound by treaty obligations? |
the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
"Colonel Kurtz" wrote in message ... On 22-Sep-2010, "nom=de=plume" wrote: They're capitalists, like the U.S. used to be long ago. When a (previously) 3rd world ******** like red China blows your doors off, you should notice something's wrong in your worker's paradise. They're highly regulated societies, much further from capitalism than we are. Feel free to whine. Then what is everyone complaining about? Your industries are gone, marketing companies with minimum wage gum chewing clerks in ugly blue vests are the new "middle class." All is rosy! You're the complainer. You can't handle actual capitalism, so you quit. Unless of course, you're just lying. |
the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
"Harry ?" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Colonel Kurtz" wrote in message ... On 16-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote: why have the rich gotten MUCH wealthier in the US, vs the middle class? this is NOT seen in other countries yet you REFUSE to address this issue I've explained it 50 times in words you should be able to understand. LAST time: 40 years ago - you want a automobile Mines were constructed to mine iron to make steel to process and put into tools that had to be designed, engineered and built in separate companies so designers could design a part to assemble to a vehicle that other engineers, metallurgists, chemists, capital equipment builders, machinery builders, paint manufacturers, trim designers engineers and assembly people could work in a plant built by steel makers, engineers, managers, architects and on and on and on and on - Today: A foreign company is offered a site at specialty rates (tax exemptions), are granted foreign trade zone status to avoid tariffs, import engineering, import management, import styling, import capital machinery, import tools and dies, import raw materials, put the pieces together with hicks at half the rate paid 25 years ago, and tell the ignorant masses its "made in America." Multiply that scenario by thousands of products and thousands of components and thousands of companies, and you have "the rich" getting richer and the ignorant masses taking it in the ass. It is my observation that the ignorant masses ENJOY taking it in the ass (with all due respect to Brawny Swank) as long as a criminal politician makes them "feel" better and promises meals on wheels or $300 to "make it all better. Use Vaseline, it's cheaper, and you don't have to vote to gain the thrill. If you don't grasp the demise of CORE industries in North America for the demise of the previous middle class, you're not paying attention or both of your brain cells are on non speaking terms. You should be ****ED about the demise of the U.S., instead of blaming an entity that has no connection to you and that you've never met or interacted with. You also do not have the right or priveledge to change the policies by the DC parasites that made it possible; you only have the option to not participate, but like most other "Americans," "somebody else do somehthing.!" Engage! Sounds like you're the one who likes taking it up the ass... Up yours. Snerk. Actually, it was yours. |
the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
"Colonel Kurtz" wrote in message ... On 22-Sep-2010, "nom=de=plume" wrote: You should be ****ED about the demise of the U.S., instead of blaming an entity that has no connection to you and that you've never met or interacted with. You also do not have the right or priveledge to change the policies by the DC parasites that made it possible; you only have the option to not participate, but like most other "Americans," "somebody else do somehthing.!" Engage! Sounds like you're the one who likes taking it up the ass... I SOUND LIKE BAWNY FWANK?? No. Barney Frank is actually an intelligent, decent, and influential person. You're a nobody. |
the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
"Harry ?" wrote in message ... "Colonel Kurtz" wrote in message ... On 22-Sep-2010, "nom=de=plume" wrote: You should be ****ED about the demise of the U.S., instead of blaming an entity that has no connection to you and that you've never met or interacted with. You also do not have the right or priveledge to change the policies by the DC parasites that made it possible; you only have the option to not participate, but like most other "Americans," "somebody else do somehthing.!" Engage! Sounds like you're the one who likes taking it up the ass... I SOUND LIKE BAWNY FWANK?? Here's hoping Bawney takes it up the ass in November. Apparently, you're in line to help out! |
the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
"Colonel Kurtz" wrote in message ... On 22-Sep-2010, Secular Humorist wrote: It's flourishing overseas, shipping to the nitwits in the U.S. Should have done that 20 years ago instead of 3. Keep bringing it home as long as you can - when the U.S. reaches it last days, the Indian, Chinese and South American market is strong and will grow. The U.S. is toast. Bravo Foxtrot Delta. Gee, it's too bad we don't know the name and markets of the business you use to screw Americans...we could help publicize it for you. I pay for advertising, there's no such thing as "free." Just keep dragging it home. Sounds like you don't even pay for chewing gum. Sounds like you're a freeloader. |
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