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the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
"JustWaitAFrekinMinute!" wrote in message ... On Sep 10, 3:44 pm, "Harry ?" wrote: wrote in message ... On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:06:24 -0700, jps wrote: Maybe it is time for a real thrust to buy American but that never really takes off when you see the price tags. Really? I bought a 23 year old german car rather than a new American car. Why? Quality. The 23 year old car rides, drives better despite lacking 23 years of technical progress. The 23 year old car was more expensive than most modern American boxes but it won't depreciate like the American pieces of crap. I'd much rather purchase a superior American product, even at a higher price. They aren't offered anymore because cheap **** imported by Walmart, Target and others have flooded the shelves. You just said two different things. He just loves his German screw drivers. I wonder if there are any quality American toolmakers left?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It is difficult to find a lot of items of any quality anymore, even if you spend the dollars. From clothes, to services, to restraunts... Nobody cares enough about quality to build it, and our (Americans) interest in it went out the window decades ago... Whoops... wholesale inventories rise - seven months in a row. It must be Obama's fault! http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=127901911 |
the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:51:40 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote: On 8-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote: great article in 'slate'... http://www.slate.com/id/2266025/entr.../?hpid=topnews multipart series...telling us what the right doesnt want us to know. How can a middle class be poor and getting poorer? If they're poor, they're not the middle class" unless the "new middle class" are the schlubs in the "new service economy" desperately hanging onto their walkers just inside the door at Walmart. ?? uh...if you define the middle class as the middle 70% or so of wage earners, then they can, by all means, be poor AND getting poorer compared to their own history. you seem to have a thing about wal mart, not realizing that people shop there BECAUSE that's in lieu of a pay in crease that right wingers have denied middle class workers |
the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:14:55 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote: On 10-Sep-2010, "Colonel Kurtz" wrote: On 8-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote: great article in 'slate'... http://www.slate.com/id/2266025/entr.../?hpid=topnews multipart series...telling us what the right doesnt want us to know. How can a middle class be poor and getting poorer? If they're poor, they're not the middle class" unless the "new middle class" are the schlubs in the "new service economy" desperately hanging onto their walkers just inside the door at Walmart. Thought you should have an update - the jackass in the White House just announced an intent to grant tax breaks for the evil "rich actually for small businesses...quite a different thing |
the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
On 10-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote: the door at Walmart. Thought you should have an update - the jackass in the White House just announced an intent to grant tax breaks for the evil "rich actually for small businesses...quite a different thing You missed the asshole's point - it's to businesses - the people you losers blame for your lack of a decent income. It is good for him to do, however, investment for R & D will develop new tool designs and processes so the products can be produced economically overseas. He (President Dip****) was just pandering to the few companies left in the United States. What the dumb ******* SHOULD do is invite owners and CEO's of every industry that had to flee the U.S. to the White House and ask them what is needed for them to produce in the U.S. That won't happen as long as he gets votes for sending your money to people for studying the sexual proclivities of earthworms, while pandering to the lazy masses that the evil "corporations" are their enemy. You can't cure stupid, and it reproduces rapidly. |
the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
On 10-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote: door at Walmart. ?? uh...if you define the middle class as the middle 70% or so of wage earners, then they can, by all means, be poor AND getting poorer compared to their own history. That would make sense to anyone that couldn't pass a breatylizer. you seem to have a thing about wal mart, not realizing that people shop there BECAUSE that's in lieu of a pay in crease that right wingers have denied middle class workers They pay 2 to 3 times as much than if they bought a product that would last more than a couple weeks. Based on your "theory," the "poor" are making themselves poorer. I also know from personal experience that Walmart tells their suppliers to produce outside the United States, or they'll go elsewhere - has been the policy for 15 years. All the foreign crap you buy is not from Walmart - all retail marketing companies sell everything foreign - being the biggest, they're (Walmart) is just symbolic of the greater problem. That will never be understood by the waddling masses. What's so difficult to comprehend about sending the majority of your wages overseas or to the government with the result of being unemployed? |
the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
On 9/10/2010 5:42 PM, Colonel Kurtz wrote:
On 10-Sep-2010, wrote: the door at Walmart. Thought you should have an update - the jackass in the White House just announced an intent to grant tax breaks for the evil "rich actually for small businesses...quite a different thing You missed the asshole's point - it's to businesses - the people you losers blame for your lack of a decent income. It is good for him to do, however, investment for R& D will develop new tool designs and processes so the products can be produced economically overseas. He (President Dip****) was just pandering to the few companies left in the United States. What the dumb ******* SHOULD do is invite owners and CEO's of every industry that had to flee the U.S. to the White House and ask them what is needed for them to produce in the U.S. That won't happen as long as he gets votes for sending your money to people for studying the sexual proclivities of earthworms, while pandering to the lazy masses that the evil "corporations" are their enemy. You can't cure stupid, and it reproduces rapidly. Ronald McDonald must be holding seminars. Business/Banking created the situation we are in or more correctly the partnership of business/government of Globalism. The dollar is worth about 7 cents in 1970 terms. There is no equity in contracts. Their goal of depressing Americans economy to bring us to parity with the third world is fast approaching. |
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the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
"Colonel Kurtz" wrote in message ... On 10-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote: door at Walmart. ?? uh...if you define the middle class as the middle 70% or so of wage earners, then they can, by all means, be poor AND getting poorer compared to their own history. That would make sense to anyone that couldn't pass a breatylizer. you seem to have a thing about wal mart, not realizing that people shop there BECAUSE that's in lieu of a pay in crease that right wingers have denied middle class workers They pay 2 to 3 times as much than if they bought a product that would last more than a couple weeks. Based on your "theory," the "poor" are making themselves poorer. I also know from personal experience that Walmart tells their suppliers to produce outside the United States, or they'll go elsewhere - has been the policy for 15 years. All the foreign crap you buy is not from Walmart - all retail marketing companies sell everything foreign - being the biggest, they're (Walmart) is just symbolic of the greater problem. That will never be understood by the waddling masses. What's so difficult to comprehend about sending the majority of your wages overseas or to the government with the result of being unemployed? Wow. You sure are angry with the US. Are you Taliban? |
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the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!" wrote in message ... On Sep 10, 3:44 pm, "Harry ?" wrote: wrote in message ... On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:06:24 -0700, jps wrote: Maybe it is time for a real thrust to buy American but that never really takes off when you see the price tags. Really? I bought a 23 year old german car rather than a new American car. Why? Quality. The 23 year old car rides, drives better despite lacking 23 years of technical progress. The 23 year old car was more expensive than most modern American boxes but it won't depreciate like the American pieces of crap. I'd much rather purchase a superior American product, even at a higher price. They aren't offered anymore because cheap **** imported by Walmart, Target and others have flooded the shelves. You just said two different things. He just loves his German screw drivers. I wonder if there are any quality American toolmakers left?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It is difficult to find a lot of items of any quality anymore, even if you spend the dollars. From clothes, to services, to restraunts... Nobody cares enough about quality to build it, and our (Americans) interest in it went out the window decades ago... Whoops... wholesale inventories rise - seven months in a row. It must be Obama's fault! http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=127901911 Retail ain't buying. |
the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
"Califbill" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!" wrote in message ... On Sep 10, 3:44 pm, "Harry ?" wrote: wrote in message ... On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:06:24 -0700, jps wrote: Maybe it is time for a real thrust to buy American but that never really takes off when you see the price tags. Really? I bought a 23 year old german car rather than a new American car. Why? Quality. The 23 year old car rides, drives better despite lacking 23 years of technical progress. The 23 year old car was more expensive than most modern American boxes but it won't depreciate like the American pieces of crap. I'd much rather purchase a superior American product, even at a higher price. They aren't offered anymore because cheap **** imported by Walmart, Target and others have flooded the shelves. You just said two different things. He just loves his German screw drivers. I wonder if there are any quality American toolmakers left?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It is difficult to find a lot of items of any quality anymore, even if you spend the dollars. From clothes, to services, to restraunts... Nobody cares enough about quality to build it, and our (Americans) interest in it went out the window decades ago... Whoops... wholesale inventories rise - seven months in a row. It must be Obama's fault! http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=127901911 Retail ain't buying. You didn't even read the article. Inventories are up. Buying is sluggish, but the seven month rise in inventories is a very good sign, as much as you'd like to think otherwise. |
the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 21:42:23 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote: On 10-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote: the door at Walmart. Thought you should have an update - the jackass in the White House just announced an intent to grant tax breaks for the evil "rich actually for small businesses...quite a different thing You missed the asshole's point - it's to businesses - the people you losers blame for your lack of a decent income. at this point, saving jobs is priority 1. of course america will NEVER go for redressing the inequity in wages. americans love the rich more than they love their children It is good for him to do, however, investment for R & D will develop new tool designs and processes so the products can be produced economically overseas. He (President Dip****) was just pandering to the few companies left in the United States. fine. when you can show me that his tax cut goes overseas you'll have an argument. until then, it's just more right wing bull**** What the dumb ******* SHOULD do is invite owners and CEO's of every industry that had to flee the U.S. to the White House and ask them what is needed for them to produce in the U.S. That won't happen as long as he gets votes for sending your money to people for studying the sexual proclivities of earthworms, while pandering to the lazy masses that the evil "corporations" are their enemy. we already KNOW what's needed to produce in the US. an international agreement limiting wage CUTS and forcing companies to spend more on their WORKERS but the right would NEVER go for this. to them, only the rich are important You can't cure stupid, and it reproduces rapidly. i know. that's why the GOP will wiln the next election |
the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 21:49:46 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote: On 10-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote: door at Walmart. ?? uh...if you define the middle class as the middle 70% or so of wage earners, then they can, by all means, be poor AND getting poorer compared to their own history. That would make sense to anyone that couldn't pass a breatylizer. IOW you think the idea of middle class hasnt changed in 100 years. uh huh. so what's your drink of choice? you seem to have a thing about wal mart, not realizing that people shop there BECAUSE that's in lieu of a pay in crease that right wingers have denied middle class workers They pay 2 to 3 times as much than if they bought a product that would last more than a couple weeks. Based on your "theory," the "poor" are making themselves poorer. uh no. you seem to ignore that only the US has a 'great divergence' problem...a. BIG spread between the middle class and the rich. ONLY the US. All the foreign crap you buy is not from Walmart - all retail marketing companies sell everything foreign - being the biggest, they're (Walmart) is just symbolic of the greater problem. That will never be understood by the waddling masses. the foreign crap is irrelevant. we buy foreign because the rich limit our wage increases. you continue to blame main street. What's so difficult to comprehend about sending the majority of your wages overseas or to the government with the result of being unemployed? what's so hard to understand that the middle class has had NO real increase in wages in almost 4 decades? what does that have to do with walmart? answer: nothing. |
the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
wrote in message ... On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:19:45 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Califbill" wrote in message news:H8Sdna6mQrX7KxfRnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@earthlink. com... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!" wrote in message ... On Sep 10, 3:44 pm, "Harry ?" wrote: wrote in message ... On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:06:24 -0700, jps wrote: Maybe it is time for a real thrust to buy American but that never really takes off when you see the price tags. Really? I bought a 23 year old german car rather than a new American car. Why? Quality. The 23 year old car rides, drives better despite lacking 23 years of technical progress. The 23 year old car was more expensive than most modern American boxes but it won't depreciate like the American pieces of crap. I'd much rather purchase a superior American product, even at a higher price. They aren't offered anymore because cheap **** imported by Walmart, Target and others have flooded the shelves. You just said two different things. He just loves his German screw drivers. I wonder if there are any quality American toolmakers left?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It is difficult to find a lot of items of any quality anymore, even if you spend the dollars. From clothes, to services, to restraunts... Nobody cares enough about quality to build it, and our (Americans) interest in it went out the window decades ago... Whoops... wholesale inventories rise - seven months in a row. It must be Obama's fault! http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=127901911 Retail ain't buying. You didn't even read the article. Inventories are up. Buying is sluggish, but the seven month rise in inventories is a very good sign, as much as you'd like to think otherwise. Huh? I was curious about your first comment on this but rising inventories is not a good thing. That is "built and unsold". They have more product on the shelf gathering dust than they can sell. It means they are ready to shut down the line. Well, you'd be wrong. Manufacturers don't make more of something without the likelihood the somethings are going to sell. If you had read the article, you would have read that they're right where they should be. Rising inventories are a good thing. |
the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ...
wrote in message ... On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:19:45 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Califbill" wrote in message news:H8Sdna6mQrX7KxfRnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@earthlink .com... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!" wrote in message ... On Sep 10, 3:44 pm, "Harry ?" wrote: wrote in message ... On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:06:24 -0700, jps wrote: Maybe it is time for a real thrust to buy American but that never really takes off when you see the price tags. Really? I bought a 23 year old german car rather than a new American car. Why? Quality. The 23 year old car rides, drives better despite lacking 23 years of technical progress. The 23 year old car was more expensive than most modern American boxes but it won't depreciate like the American pieces of crap. I'd much rather purchase a superior American product, even at a higher price. They aren't offered anymore because cheap **** imported by Walmart, Target and others have flooded the shelves. You just said two different things. He just loves his German screw drivers. I wonder if there are any quality American toolmakers left?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It is difficult to find a lot of items of any quality anymore, even if you spend the dollars. From clothes, to services, to restraunts... Nobody cares enough about quality to build it, and our (Americans) interest in it went out the window decades ago... Whoops... wholesale inventories rise - seven months in a row. It must be Obama's fault! http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=127901911 Retail ain't buying. You didn't even read the article. Inventories are up. Buying is sluggish, but the seven month rise in inventories is a very good sign, as much as you'd like to think otherwise. Huh? I was curious about your first comment on this but rising inventories is not a good thing. That is "built and unsold". They have more product on the shelf gathering dust than they can sell. It means they are ready to shut down the line. Well, you'd be wrong. Manufacturers don't make more of something without the likelihood the somethings are going to sell. If you had read the article, you would have read that they're right where they should be. Rising inventories are a good thing. I wish for you an ever rising inventory, you dip****. |
the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
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says... On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 12:20:46 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 23:35:54 -0700, jps wrote: On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 01:22:46 -0400, wrote: On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 21:31:57 -0400, lil abner wrote: One small business went out that was building construction materials. However Lowes and Home Depot are still around. They sell Chinese products on the cheap. They are still pretty slow. You certainly have no problem finding a parking space. Finding someone who knows anything in the store is tough tho. They are running pretty lean. Their business model is "this is a do it yourself store", If you want to find something, do it yourself. If you want it tied on your car, do it yourself. Most HD/Lowes these days even want you to check your stuff out yourself. I hate all the Chinese crap they sell. I look for alternatives whenever possible. It's getting harder every day. Maybe it is time for a real thrust to buy American but that never really takes off when you see the price tags. Really? I bought a 23 year old german car rather than a new American car. Why? Quality. The 23 year old car rides, drives better despite lacking 23 years of technical progress. The 23 year old car was more expensive than most modern American boxes but it won't depreciate like the American pieces of crap. I'd much rather purchase a superior American product, even at a higher price. They aren't offered anymore because cheap **** imported by Walmart, Target and others have flooded the shelves. What is the cost of repairing your 23 year old german car? |
the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
On 10-Sep-2010, lil abner wrote: There is no equity in contracts. Their goal of depressing Americans economy to bring us to parity with the third world is fast approaching. I've been explaining that for 20 years - when equilibrium is reached, production might return to the U,.S. Unfortunately for those that lived when the U.S. was successful, equilibrium will be achieved by the 3rd world moving slightly up, and the U.S. moving severely down. |
the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
On 10-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote: It is good for him to do, however, investment for R & D will develop new tool designs and processes so the products can be produced economically overseas. He (President Dip****) was just pandering to the few companies left in the United States. fine. when you can show me that his tax cut goes overseas you'll have an argument. I have NO argument, just information for those who are unable to observe their surroundings. The tax advantages promised (not implemented) will spurn development that will result in jobs in Japan, Korea, China, India and Viet Nam. Obama won't send money there; you will. You don't want to do anything about that. until then, it's just more right wing bull**** THEN, more inhabitants waiting for someone ELSE to "do something!!!" |
the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
On 10-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote: That would make sense to anyone that couldn't pass a breatylizer. IOW you think the idea of middle class hasnt changed in 100 years. The middle class is 20% the size it was in 1990. That won't change, unless you were willing to participate. |
the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
On 9/11/10 1:06 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
"Harry ?" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:19:45 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Califbill" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!" wrote in message ... On Sep 10, 3:44 pm, "Harry ?" wrote: wrote in message ... On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:06:24 -0700, jps wrote: Maybe it is time for a real thrust to buy American but that never really takes off when you see the price tags. Really? I bought a 23 year old german car rather than a new American car. Why? Quality. The 23 year old car rides, drives better despite lacking 23 years of technical progress. The 23 year old car was more expensive than most modern American boxes but it won't depreciate like the American pieces of crap. I'd much rather purchase a superior American product, even at a higher price. They aren't offered anymore because cheap **** imported by Walmart, Target and others have flooded the shelves. You just said two different things. He just loves his German screw drivers. I wonder if there are any quality American toolmakers left?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It is difficult to find a lot of items of any quality anymore, even if you spend the dollars. From clothes, to services, to restraunts... Nobody cares enough about quality to build it, and our (Americans) interest in it went out the window decades ago... Whoops... wholesale inventories rise - seven months in a row. It must be Obama's fault! http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=127901911 Retail ain't buying. You didn't even read the article. Inventories are up. Buying is sluggish, but the seven month rise in inventories is a very good sign, as much as you'd like to think otherwise. Huh? I was curious about your first comment on this but rising inventories is not a good thing. That is "built and unsold". They have more product on the shelf gathering dust than they can sell. It means they are ready to shut down the line. Well, you'd be wrong. Manufacturers don't make more of something without the likelihood the somethings are going to sell. If you had read the article, you would have read that they're right where they should be. Rising inventories are a good thing. I wish for you an ever rising inventory, you dip****. I wish for you a brain. That's why he ID spoofs...he wants to pin his stupidity on someone else. |
the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
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wrote in message ... On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 23:28:55 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message ... On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 14:41:59 -0400, Secular Humanist wrote: In article , says... wrote in message ... On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 07:58:47 -0700, jps wrote: Sheesh, thought they had all those folks in Red states too. Not as many and not as rich Is it because blue states are just more packed with more natural and business resources or is it that blue citizens have made 'em that way? Interesting question. It has to be pointed out that the greatest income disparity is in the biggest cities so there is not going to be one answer. Another interesting thing is the two richest Americans (Gates and Buffett) do not live in a big city. Gates' house is near Seattle. Buffet lives outside of Omaha. You expect them to live in the inner city? 'Near' and 'in' are two entirely different things. Seattle and Omaha are not really big cities in the DC/NYC/Chicago sense. So, I guess Bloomberg isn't rich. Seems to me that you enjoy cherry-picking your facts. Talk about cherry picking. You had to get down to number 23 to find a billionaire who lives in one of the cities I mentioned according to Forbes. There are three Waltons in Little Rock who have more money than Bloomburg. More than half don't even live in the US. http://www.forbes.com/lists/2010/10/...ires_Rank.html So, suddenly the cities you mention are the important ones? Hardly. I guess Silicon Valley isn't important because it isn't a city. And, there are plenty of other places like that. Keep fishing! You are out of your mind |
the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ...
"Harry ?" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:19:45 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Califbill" wrote in message news:H8Sdna6mQrX7KxfRnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@earthli nk.com... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!" wrote in message ... On Sep 10, 3:44 pm, "Harry ?" wrote: wrote in message ... On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:06:24 -0700, jps wrote: Maybe it is time for a real thrust to buy American but that never really takes off when you see the price tags. Really? I bought a 23 year old german car rather than a new American car. Why? Quality. The 23 year old car rides, drives better despite lacking 23 years of technical progress. The 23 year old car was more expensive than most modern American boxes but it won't depreciate like the American pieces of crap. I'd much rather purchase a superior American product, even at a higher price. They aren't offered anymore because cheap **** imported by Walmart, Target and others have flooded the shelves. You just said two different things. He just loves his German screw drivers. I wonder if there are any quality American toolmakers left?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It is difficult to find a lot of items of any quality anymore, even if you spend the dollars. From clothes, to services, to restraunts... Nobody cares enough about quality to build it, and our (Americans) interest in it went out the window decades ago... Whoops... wholesale inventories rise - seven months in a row. It must be Obama's fault! http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=127901911 Retail ain't buying. You didn't even read the article. Inventories are up. Buying is sluggish, but the seven month rise in inventories is a very good sign, as much as you'd like to think otherwise. Huh? I was curious about your first comment on this but rising inventories is not a good thing. That is "built and unsold". They have more product on the shelf gathering dust than they can sell. It means they are ready to shut down the line. Well, you'd be wrong. Manufacturers don't make more of something without the likelihood the somethings are going to sell. If you had read the article, you would have read that they're right where they should be. Rising inventories are a good thing. I wish for you an ever rising inventory, you dip****. I wish for you a brain. Likewise |
the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message ...
wrote in message ... On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 23:31:46 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message ... On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:19:45 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Califbill" wrote in message news:H8Sdna6mQrX7KxfRnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@earthli nk.com... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!" wrote in message ... On Sep 10, 3:44 pm, "Harry ?" wrote: wrote in message ... On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:06:24 -0700, jps wrote: Maybe it is time for a real thrust to buy American but that never really takes off when you see the price tags. Really? I bought a 23 year old german car rather than a new American car. Why? Quality. The 23 year old car rides, drives better despite lacking 23 years of technical progress. The 23 year old car was more expensive than most modern American boxes but it won't depreciate like the American pieces of crap. I'd much rather purchase a superior American product, even at a higher price. They aren't offered anymore because cheap **** imported by Walmart, Target and others have flooded the shelves. You just said two different things. He just loves his German screw drivers. I wonder if there are any quality American toolmakers left?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It is difficult to find a lot of items of any quality anymore, even if you spend the dollars. From clothes, to services, to restraunts... Nobody cares enough about quality to build it, and our (Americans) interest in it went out the window decades ago... Whoops... wholesale inventories rise - seven months in a row. It must be Obama's fault! http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=127901911 Retail ain't buying. You didn't even read the article. Inventories are up. Buying is sluggish, but the seven month rise in inventories is a very good sign, as much as you'd like to think otherwise. Huh? I was curious about your first comment on this but rising inventories is not a good thing. That is "built and unsold". They have more product on the shelf gathering dust than they can sell. It means they are ready to shut down the line. Well, you'd be wrong. Manufacturers don't make more of something without the likelihood the somethings are going to sell. If you had read the article, you would have read that they're right where they should be. Rising inventories are a good thing. Not if they are not moving. Perhaps you should have taken some business courses, or run a lemonade stand. Rising inventory means supply exceeds demand. So, you're claiming that manufacturers are just stupid? Why do you think they would keep making things if there was no hope of selling what they make. Do you not understand that there's sometimes a lag in making and selling? Feel free to start with insults. I've got an MBA and I've run a lemonade stand. What have you got? You have a Mighty Big Ass. Nothing special about that. |
the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
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On 9/11/10 1:06 PM, nom=de=plume wrote: "Harry ?" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:19:45 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Califbill" wrote in message m... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!" wrote in message ... On Sep 10, 3:44 pm, "Harry ?" wrote: wrote in message ... On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:06:24 -0700, jps wrote: Maybe it is time for a real thrust to buy American but that never really takes off when you see the price tags. Really? I bought a 23 year old german car rather than a new American car. Why? Quality. The 23 year old car rides, drives better despite lacking 23 years of technical progress. The 23 year old car was more expensive than most modern American boxes but it won't depreciate like the American pieces of crap. I'd much rather purchase a superior American product, even at a higher price. They aren't offered anymore because cheap **** imported by Walmart, Target and others have flooded the shelves. You just said two different things. He just loves his German screw drivers. I wonder if there are any quality American toolmakers left?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It is difficult to find a lot of items of any quality anymore, even if you spend the dollars. From clothes, to services, to restraunts... Nobody cares enough about quality to build it, and our (Americans) interest in it went out the window decades ago... Whoops... wholesale inventories rise - seven months in a row. It must be Obama's fault! http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=127901911 Retail ain't buying. You didn't even read the article. Inventories are up. Buying is sluggish, but the seven month rise in inventories is a very good sign, as much as you'd like to think otherwise. Huh? I was curious about your first comment on this but rising inventories is not a good thing. That is "built and unsold". They have more product on the shelf gathering dust than they can sell. It means they are ready to shut down the line. Well, you'd be wrong. Manufacturers don't make more of something without the likelihood the somethings are going to sell. If you had read the article, you would have read that they're right where they should be. Rising inventories are a good thing. I wish for you an ever rising inventory, you dip****. I wish for you a brain. That's why he ID spoofs...he wants to pin his stupidity on someone else. Is that why you are afraid to use your own name? |
the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 15:13:49 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote: On 10-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote: That would make sense to anyone that couldn't pass a breatylizer. IOW you think the idea of middle class hasnt changed in 100 years. The middle class is 20% the size it was in 1990. That won't change, unless you were willing to participate. i do participate. i helped defeat john mccain and sarah 'had me the launch codes' palin |
the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
"Harry ?" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Harry ?" wrote in message ... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... wrote in message ... On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 16:19:45 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: "Califbill" wrote in message news:H8Sdna6mQrX7KxfRnZ2dnUVZ_tGdnZ2d@earthl ink.com... "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "JustWaitAFrekinMinute!" wrote in message ... On Sep 10, 3:44 pm, "Harry ?" wrote: wrote in message ... On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 08:06:24 -0700, jps wrote: Maybe it is time for a real thrust to buy American but that never really takes off when you see the price tags. Really? I bought a 23 year old german car rather than a new American car. Why? Quality. The 23 year old car rides, drives better despite lacking 23 years of technical progress. The 23 year old car was more expensive than most modern American boxes but it won't depreciate like the American pieces of crap. I'd much rather purchase a superior American product, even at a higher price. They aren't offered anymore because cheap **** imported by Walmart, Target and others have flooded the shelves. You just said two different things. He just loves his German screw drivers. I wonder if there are any quality American toolmakers left?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It is difficult to find a lot of items of any quality anymore, even if you spend the dollars. From clothes, to services, to restraunts... Nobody cares enough about quality to build it, and our (Americans) interest in it went out the window decades ago... Whoops... wholesale inventories rise - seven months in a row. It must be Obama's fault! http://www.npr.org/templates/story/s...ryId=127901911 Retail ain't buying. You didn't even read the article. Inventories are up. Buying is sluggish, but the seven month rise in inventories is a very good sign, as much as you'd like to think otherwise. Huh? I was curious about your first comment on this but rising inventories is not a good thing. That is "built and unsold". They have more product on the shelf gathering dust than they can sell. It means they are ready to shut down the line. Well, you'd be wrong. Manufacturers don't make more of something without the likelihood the somethings are going to sell. If you had read the article, you would have read that they're right where they should be. Rising inventories are a good thing. I wish for you an ever rising inventory, you dip****. I wish for you a brain. Likewise You don't have to wish. I have one. You don't. At least not a functional brain. |
the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
wrote in message ... On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 10:08:45 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: You didn't even read the article. Inventories are up. Buying is sluggish, but the seven month rise in inventories is a very good sign, as much as you'd like to think otherwise. Huh? I was curious about your first comment on this but rising inventories is not a good thing. That is "built and unsold". They have more product on the shelf gathering dust than they can sell. It means they are ready to shut down the line. Well, you'd be wrong. Manufacturers don't make more of something without the likelihood the somethings are going to sell. If you had read the article, you would have read that they're right where they should be. Rising inventories are a good thing. Not if they are not moving. Perhaps you should have taken some business courses, or run a lemonade stand. Rising inventory means supply exceeds demand. So, you're claiming that manufacturers are just stupid? Why do you think they would keep making things if there was no hope of selling what they make. Do you not understand that there's sometimes a lag in making and selling? Feel free to start with insults. I've got an MBA and I've run a lemonade stand. What have you got? Some basic understanding of business. You don't even realize the article you linked was a negative assessment of the industry. I don't think you actually read the stuff you post. You certainly don't seem to understand what they are saying. You had the tax rebate thing totally wrong and now you are wrong about the thrust of the inventory article you linked. When some people screwed up and built more than they could sell that signals bad times are coming not good times. If the warehouse if full and nothing is moving, they shut down the line. Supply has exceeded demand. That should have been day one of your MBA school. Nope. You're just wrong. Let's take your implied insult about a lemonade stand. Do you think it would be a JIT business model? According to you, if someone drives up, I would immediately build the stand, grow the lemons, harvest the sugar, form the pitcher, glasses, and spoon (stirrer), then before they can actually drive away, post the sign with the price, make sure change is available, consider whether or not to accept foreign currency, be prepared to negotiate prices, etc., etc. I guess you missed this little item in the article: "Businesses restocking depleted store shelves has been a major driver of the economy since late last year and the strong gain seen in July should help alleviate fears that the country could be in danger of slipping into another recession." |
the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
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wrote in message ... On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 10:08:45 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: You didn't even read the article. Inventories are up. Buying is sluggish, but the seven month rise in inventories is a very good sign, as much as you'd like to think otherwise. Huh? I was curious about your first comment on this but rising inventories is not a good thing. That is "built and unsold". They have more product on the shelf gathering dust than they can sell. It means they are ready to shut down the line. Well, you'd be wrong. Manufacturers don't make more of something without the likelihood the somethings are going to sell. If you had read the article, you would have read that they're right where they should be. Rising inventories are a good thing. Not if they are not moving. Perhaps you should have taken some business courses, or run a lemonade stand. Rising inventory means supply exceeds demand. So, you're claiming that manufacturers are just stupid? Why do you think they would keep making things if there was no hope of selling what they make. Do you not understand that there's sometimes a lag in making and selling? Feel free to start with insults. I've got an MBA and I've run a lemonade stand. What have you got? Some basic understanding of business. You don't even realize the article you linked was a negative assessment of the industry. I don't think you actually read the stuff you post. You certainly don't seem to understand what they are saying. You had the tax rebate thing totally wrong and now you are wrong about the thrust of the inventory article you linked. When some people screwed up and built more than they could sell that signals bad times are coming not good times. If the warehouse if full and nothing is moving, they shut down the line. Supply has exceeded demand. That should have been day one of your MBA school. Nope. You're just wrong. Let's take your implied insult about a lemonade stand. Do you think it would be a JIT business model? According to you, if someone drives up, I would immediately build the stand, grow the lemons, harvest the sugar, form the pitcher, glasses, and spoon (stirrer), then before they can actually drive away, post the sign with the price, make sure change is available, consider whether or not to accept foreign currency, be prepared to negotiate prices, etc., etc. I guess you missed this little item in the article: "Businesses restocking depleted store shelves has been a major driver of the economy since late last year and the strong gain seen in July should help alleviate fears that the country could be in danger of slipping into another recession." What about your statement, "You didn't even read the article. Inventories are up. Buying is sluggish". What do you suppose is making the buying sluggish? |
the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
wrote in message ... On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 13:40:23 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: OK I give up, you are right Detroit is booming. Now just go convince them. Never said that. GM is coming back, as well as Ford. Ford is the one that came back, maybe you meant Chrysler/Fiat. That one is probably not coming back. GM is on life support. There may be a few bucks to be made on the IPO pop but long term it will be another Pets.Com GM is about to go public. Its demise is your opinion, not a fact. Actually, Ford didn't accept public money, because they were a bit more forward thinking. I don't think you can blame Obama for either situation. |
the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
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the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
wrote in message ... On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 22:22:22 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: wrote in message . .. On Sun, 12 Sep 2010 10:12:24 -0700, "nom=de=plume" I thought the article was trying to make a bad situation sound good. I think it was trying to tell the truth. The situation isn't as bad as the fear mongering would suppose. The real "tell" on retail is the latter half of 4q. If Christmas is slow, retail is slow. Let's see how that goes. I agree... let's see how it goes. |
the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
On 11-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote: The middle class is 20% the size it was in 1990. That won't change, unless you were willing to participate. i do participate. i helped defeat john mccain and sarah 'had me the launch codes' palin That's a job half done - you should have defeated the other jackass TOO. D and R are your pallbearers. |
the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
On 11-Sep-2010, "nom=de=plume" wrote: The middle class is 20% the size it was in 1990. That won't change, unless you were willing to participate. Obviously, you're unwilling. I employed just under 130 people at one time. Laid all of them off in 2005 when there were no customers left in the U.S. to ship to. Would like to have shipped overseas but they're brighter than that in Japan, Korea and red China. Gee...if only I just gave them a raise, even when they were no longer needed. That's the Obama nation. |
the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 18:21:54 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote: On 11-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote: let me repeat that BUSH ALREADY DESTROYED THE ECONOMY. Congress and losers buying everything foreign destroyed the economy. where's your proof? All you want is governemnt to control/enforce wages, but prioces will then need controls also. EVERYTHING is supply and demand wrong. we have a command economy managed by wall street to maximize its own benefits - cell phones and bottled water are outrageously priced becaseu the market is willing to pay. Wages are EXACTLY the same, when labor, engineers, programmers, managers, factory rats etc. are not needed, their price (wages) go down. wrong. if that were the case EVERY country would have the same profile as the US in terms of wages so you're WRONG If demand ever returns for U.S. produced products (unlikely) demand for labor, engineers, programmers, managers, factory rats etc. will rise as well as the wages to attract the same. Lot's of trouble in logic class? guess you never heard of evidence, huh? oh. you're right wing |
the rich get richer and the middle class poorer
On Mon, 13 Sep 2010 18:45:15 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote: On 10-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote: What's so difficult to comprehend about sending the majority of your wages overseas or to the government with the result of being unemployed? what's so hard to understand that the middle class has had NO real increase in wages in almost 4 decades? what does that have to do with walmart? answer: nothing. Walmart requires their supplier to produce overseas whenever possible (for production of products that you might have been involved with.) (where you used to work) You participate, you're part of the problem. gee. you suggesting the middle class starve? oh. we already are, courtesy of the right wing |
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