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Colonel Kurtz September 16th 10 08:11 PM

deficits don't matter
 

On 13-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

I respect the core structure of the U.S., I resent the attitude and
habits
of the new welfare class short-handing themselves, then and expecting
"the
government" to send them money. "The government" can only send you back
YOUR money, after they've skimmed 25% off the top. You shouldn't put up
with
any of that.


well, no. they can make investments and get a positive ROI.

invested money is fungible. money doesn't know if it came from the
govt or private enterprise


The government NEVER invests (clinton used that term intentionally out of
context and the ass holes agreed). ****ing money down the drain for studies
of how to wash your dick in Obama's homeland is not investment. Neither is
paying the grossly inflated bills of irresponsible sub governments. If "the
government" sent you money to pay for your pay television bill, it's not an
investment, it's a waste. About 60% of what government is ****ing away is
potential investment. It's your money, so who cares what they do???

Colonel Kurtz September 16th 10 08:12 PM

deficits don't matter
 

On 13-Sep-2010, "nom=de=plume" wrote:

any of that.


So, you're saying that infrastructure, the military, regulations in
general
are skimming off the top? You have no respect for the core structure of
the
US, unless you have your way of disenfranchising our citizens of basic
human
rights.


60% is ****ed away. I'd be glad to edit the non existent budget. 50% ALONE
is welfare.

Colonel Kurtz September 16th 10 08:14 PM

deficits don't matter
 

On 13-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

So, you're saying that infrastructure, the military, regulations in
general
are skimming off the top? You have no respect for the core structure of
the
US, unless you have your way of disenfranchising our citizens of basic
human
rights.


exactly. he thinks an educated public has no value


Education is substantially by "the government," which explains most of the
stupidity of the voting and purchasing public.

Colonel Kurtz September 16th 10 08:15 PM

deficits don't matter
 

On 13-Sep-2010, "nom=de=plume" wrote:

You have no stake in this country, so why do you care?


I DO have a stake! You clowns send you diminishing wages out of the
U.S!


I take it back. You're just illiterate.


You need a dictionary - perhaps a large print dictionary with lots of
pictures. Maybe "the government" will send you one "free."

Secular Humorist September 16th 10 08:46 PM

deficits don't matter
 
On 9/16/10 3:14 PM, Colonel Kurtz wrote:
On 13-Sep-2010, wrote:

So, you're saying that infrastructure, the military, regulations in
general
are skimming off the top? You have no respect for the core structure of
the
US, unless you have your way of disenfranchising our citizens of basic
human
rights.


exactly. he thinks an educated public has no value


Education is substantially by "the government," which explains most of the
stupidity of the voting and purchasing public.



You must be one of those home-schooled simpies, eh?

nom=de=plume[_2_] September 16th 10 08:52 PM

deficits don't matter
 

"Colonel Kurtz" wrote in message
...

On 13-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

So, you're saying that infrastructure, the military, regulations in
general
are skimming off the top? You have no respect for the core structure of
the
US, unless you have your way of disenfranchising our citizens of basic
human
rights.


exactly. he thinks an educated public has no value


Education is substantially by "the government," which explains most of the
stupidity of the voting and purchasing public.


Really? Or, is it substantially by caring, intelligent teachers. Oh wait, a
lot of them are represented by a union! Sorry!



nom=de=plume[_2_] September 16th 10 08:52 PM

deficits don't matter
 

"Secular Humorist" wrote in message
...
On 9/16/10 3:14 PM, Colonel Kurtz wrote:
On 13-Sep-2010, wrote:

So, you're saying that infrastructure, the military, regulations in
general
are skimming off the top? You have no respect for the core structure of
the
US, unless you have your way of disenfranchising our citizens of basic
human
rights.

exactly. he thinks an educated public has no value


Education is substantially by "the government," which explains most of
the
stupidity of the voting and purchasing public.



You must be one of those home-schooled simpies, eh?


You think he got that far?



nom=de=plume[_2_] September 16th 10 08:53 PM

deficits don't matter
 

"Colonel Kurtz" wrote in message
...

On 13-Sep-2010, "nom=de=plume" wrote:

any of that.


So, you're saying that infrastructure, the military, regulations in
general
are skimming off the top? You have no respect for the core structure of
the
US, unless you have your way of disenfranchising our citizens of basic
human
rights.


60% is ****ed away. I'd be glad to edit the non existent budget. 50%
ALONE
is welfare.


Perhaps in your little mind.



nom=de=plume[_2_] September 16th 10 08:53 PM

deficits don't matter
 

"Colonel Kurtz" wrote in message
...

On 13-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

I respect the core structure of the U.S., I resent the attitude and
habits
of the new welfare class short-handing themselves, then and expecting
"the
government" to send them money. "The government" can only send you back
YOUR money, after they've skimmed 25% off the top. You shouldn't put up
with
any of that.


well, no. they can make investments and get a positive ROI.

invested money is fungible. money doesn't know if it came from the
govt or private enterprise


The government NEVER invests (clinton used that term intentionally out of
context and the ass holes agreed). ****ing money down the drain for
studies
of how to wash your dick in Obama's homeland is not investment. Neither is
paying the grossly inflated bills of irresponsible sub governments. If
"the
government" sent you money to pay for your pay television bill, it's not
an
investment, it's a waste. About 60% of what government is ****ing away is
potential investment. It's your money, so who cares what they do???


Wow... all that money going to R&D... no investment there!



Secular Humorist September 16th 10 08:54 PM

deficits don't matter
 
On 9/16/10 3:52 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Secular Humorist" wrote in message
...
On 9/16/10 3:14 PM, Colonel Kurtz wrote:
On 13-Sep-2010, wrote:

So, you're saying that infrastructure, the military, regulations in
general
are skimming off the top? You have no respect for the core
structure of
the
US, unless you have your way of disenfranchising our citizens of basic
human
rights.

exactly. he thinks an educated public has no value

Education is substantially by "the government," which explains most
of the
stupidity of the voting and purchasing public.



You must be one of those home-schooled simpies, eh?


You think he got that far?




I dunno. What I know for sure is that he is a bitter old fart.

nom=de=plume[_2_] September 16th 10 08:54 PM

deficits don't matter
 

"Colonel Kurtz" wrote in message
...

On 13-Sep-2010, "nom=de=plume" wrote:

You have no stake in this country, so why do you care?

I DO have a stake! You clowns send you diminishing wages out of the
U.S!


I take it back. You're just illiterate.


You need a dictionary - perhaps a large print dictionary with lots of
pictures. Maybe "the government" will send you one "free."


You need a chill pill and a brain. I don't think you can get either for
free.



bpuharic September 17th 10 12:46 AM

deficits don't matter
 
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 19:14:01 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote:


On 13-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

So, you're saying that infrastructure, the military, regulations in
general
are skimming off the top? You have no respect for the core structure of
the
US, unless you have your way of disenfranchising our citizens of basic
human
rights.


exactly. he thinks an educated public has no value


Education is substantially by "the government," which explains most of the
stupidity of the voting and purchasing public.


i agree. conservatives outnumber liberals by 2:1

you have point


bpuharic September 17th 10 12:47 AM

deficits don't matter
 
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 19:11:20 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote:


On 13-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

I respect the core structure of the U.S., I resent the attitude and
habits
of the new welfare class short-handing themselves, then and expecting
"the
government" to send them money. "The government" can only send you back
YOUR money, after they've skimmed 25% off the top. You shouldn't put up
with
any of that.


well, no. they can make investments and get a positive ROI.

invested money is fungible. money doesn't know if it came from the
govt or private enterprise


The government NEVER invests


WRONG. who developed the internet? the PC? who developed UC berkeley,
one of the finest schools in the world?

you're simply a sheep in a right wing herd

(clinton used that term intentionally out of
context and the ass holes agreed). ****ing money down the drain for studies
of how to wash your dick in Obama's homeland is not investment. Neither is
paying the grossly inflated bills of irresponsible sub governments. If "the
government" sent you money to pay for your pay television bill, it's not an
investment, it's a waste. About 60% of what government is ****ing away is
potential investment. It's your money, so who cares what they do???


gee. and wall street just sucked 11 TRILLION out of the economy in 3
years.

so tell me how efficient THAT was


bpuharic September 17th 10 12:49 AM

deficits don't matter
 
On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 19:06:34 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote:


On 13-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

perspective, you should invest, don't work, and pay 15%! Doesn't make
sense, does it? Nope - it's YOUR premise......


and why should investment tax dollars be taxed at a lower rate than
earned income? there's no reason for this policy, especially since
it's obviously ineffective, as we can see today.

and, no, investment does not come from 'after tax' dollars. capital
gains taxes are, by definition, paid AFTER investments are made and
profits are recouped.


Stupid is as stupid does

Investment comes from retained income, from which taxes were paid - you
don't get an income that you can invest and not pay taxes except narrowly
defined "retirement accounts" - if you withdraw from those (such as 401k's
and IRA's) you take it in the ass for taxes, PLUS penalties.

Investment income is taxed at a lower rate to encourage investment,


which it does not do. we have lowered the tax rates on investment
income to 15%

how's that working out for us right now?

oh. we're ****ed. so your argument is ****.

which
used to result in brick-and-mortar companies to produce products where the
masses could be managers, engineers, technicians and factory rats. If it
weren't for capital investment, you'd be growing roots in your collective
garden to survive. Investment is now punished (unless you are merely
shuffling money on bogus pieces of paper and a buddy of "the
administration"), therefore you have a diminishing income. It is actually
that simple.


and why should INVESTMENT income be treated differently than EARNED
income?

it shouldn't. it leads to increasing wealth concentrated in fewer and
few hands...which is what's happening to america today

so your argument is COMPLETELY wrong


Secular Humanist[_4_] September 17th 10 03:42 PM

deficits don't matter
 
In article , says...

On 9/16/10 3:14 PM, Colonel Kurtz wrote:
On 13-Sep-2010, wrote:

So, you're saying that infrastructure, the military, regulations in
general
are skimming off the top? You have no respect for the core structure of
the
US, unless you have your way of disenfranchising our citizens of basic
human
rights.

exactly. he thinks an educated public has no value


Education is substantially by "the government," which explains most of the
stupidity of the voting and purchasing public.



You must be one of those home-schooled simpies, eh?


Spoofer alert! Anybody with any sense and intelligence would know that
the statistics for home schooled children far outshine those from public
schools.

Colonel Kurtz September 22nd 10 05:24 PM

deficits don't matter
 

On 16-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

Investment income is taxed at a lower rate to encourage investment,


which it does not do. we have lowered the tax rates on investment
income to 15%


Only for 3 more months - then you're "retirement" is screwed even deeper.

The lowest tax rate now is 10% - it will rise 50% on January 1, 2011. That
makes them equivalent.(50% tax rate increased on the lowest wage losers???)
Higher tax rates go as high as 40%, at a moderate incom,e. That's lower.
Arithmetic impaired??

how's that working out for us right now?

oh. we're ****ed. so your argument is ****.

which
used to result in brick-and-mortar companies to produce products where
the
masses could be managers, engineers, technicians and factory rats. If it
weren't for capital investment, you'd be growing roots in your collective
garden to survive. Investment is now punished (unless you are merely
shuffling money on bogus pieces of paper and a buddy of "the
administration"), therefore you have a diminishing income. It is
actually
that simple.


and why should INVESTMENT income be treated differently than EARNED
income?


Read previous post, look up the big words. Have you invested in anything
other than foreign trinkets and lottery tickets? )Thise weren't
investments, for the thinking impaired.)


it shouldn't. it leads to increasing wealth concentrated in fewer and
few hands...which is what's happening to america today


Seemingly increased wealth in "the few" (MORE millionaires and billionaires
than EVER in North America, including a ******** like Mexico)) looks
causative because the middle class is devastated and continuing to shrink -
explained why 40 times here - the gap is wider, and widening - what are you
going to do to change that? Elect a different set of political parasites???
That's right, bitch, send money overseas - it worked until now, right?


so your argument is COMPLETELY wrong


Don't beat yourself up for not understanding grade school economics.

Colonel Kurtz September 22nd 10 05:27 PM

deficits don't matter
 

On 16-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

Education is substantially by "the government," which explains most of
the
stupidity of the voting and purchasing public.


i agree. conservatives outnumber liberals by 2:1

you have point


Watching the idiot box and joining up with the "conservative" "liberal"
distraction is dysfunctional. Ever seen a newspaper other than the rag
published where you live? D v R is equally asinine. You're stuck in cartoon
land.

Colonel Kurtz September 22nd 10 05:28 PM

deficits don't matter
 

On 16-Sep-2010, "nom=de=plume" wrote:

Education is substantially by "the government," which explains most of
the
stupidity of the voting and purchasing public.


Really? Or, is it substantially by caring, intelligent teachers. Oh wait,
a
lot of them are represented by a union! Sorry!


You should be.........

Colonel Kurtz September 22nd 10 05:30 PM

deficits don't matter
 

On 16-Sep-2010, Secular Humorist wrote:



You have to care about these mindless rants to be bitter, about the criminal
political dogma. I don't. Just helping the ignorant masses, but it's like
teaching a pig to dance, although not as rewarding.

Colonel Kurtz September 22nd 10 05:31 PM

deficits don't matter
 

On 17-Sep-2010, Secular Humanist wrote:

You must be one of those home-schooled simpies, eh?


Spoofer alert! Anybody with any sense and intelligence would know that
the statistics for home schooled children far outshine those from public
schools.


....and with 95% fewer deviants

Colonel Kurtz September 22nd 10 05:34 PM

deficits don't matter
 

On 16-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

The government NEVER invests


WRONG. who developed the internet? the PC? who developed UC berkeley,
one of the finest schools in the world?


Look up the word investment

you're simply a sheep in a right wing herd

(clinton used that term intentionally out of
context and the ass holes agreed). ****ing money down the drain for
studies
of how to wash your dick in Obama's homeland is not investment. Neither
is
paying the grossly inflated bills of irresponsible sub governments. If
"the
government" sent you money to pay for your pay television bill, it's not
an
investment, it's a waste. About 60% of what government is ****ing away
is
potential investment. It's your money, so who cares what they do???


gee. and wall street just sucked 11 TRILLION out of the economy in 3
years.

so tell me how efficient THAT was


"Wall Street," with which I have no activity or interest, paid back the
money that you still owe "the government." Cooincidently they didn't send
trillions overseas as you did, and continue to do.

Colonel Kurtz September 22nd 10 05:53 PM

deficits don't matter
 

On 13-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

Apparently "the rich" (economic penis envy) did something better than
you.


yeah. they steal better than i do.


What (specifically!) was stolen from you. Use nouns, not mindless gibberish
you saw lipflapped on the idiot box.


Nothing is constraining you except lack of drive and ambition - squealing
for handouts will get you nothing.

you believe the fairy tale that wall street is of god and never
steals, cheats or lies.


I've told the mindless class for 30+ years "Wall Street" is wagering. You
should know that. "Money" on paper wagers is bogus. Hard, tangible assets
are all that counts. No money has been lost in "the economy;" only your
paper promises for money which never existed. "Wall streeters" are
primarily parasites.


you also believe in santa claus


I was always hot for Betty Boop, too.


You shouldn't call the jackass in the White House a darkie, he's half
cracker.


his race is irrelevant to me. to you it's the only thing that matters


YOU called him a darkie! Hitting the sauce this early in the day?

nom=de=plume[_2_] September 22nd 10 07:02 PM

deficits don't matter
 

"Colonel Kurtz" wrote in message
...

On 16-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

Investment income is taxed at a lower rate to encourage investment,


which it does not do. we have lowered the tax rates on investment
income to 15%


Only for 3 more months - then you're "retirement" is screwed even deeper.

The lowest tax rate now is 10% - it will rise 50% on January 1, 2011.
That
makes them equivalent.(50% tax rate increased on the lowest wage
losers???)
Higher tax rates go as high as 40%, at a moderate incom,e. That's lower.
Arithmetic impaired??


It almost certainly won't. The Republicans don't want to allow the rate to
rise for the top 2% in income. They claim, falsely, that actual small
business would be hit.

The Republicans and the Teabaggers claim they want to reduce the deficit,
yet they have no problem adding another $3T to it with tax breaks for the
rich.

It's bad enough that the deficit will increase with the tax breaks for the
middle and lower income groups, but at this point, there's little choice,
since raising their taxes would do much greater harm.


Don't beat yourself up for not understanding grade school economics.


Sounds like you're not really getting what's actually going on.



nom=de=plume[_2_] September 22nd 10 07:03 PM

deficits don't matter
 

"Colonel Kurtz" wrote in message
...

On 16-Sep-2010, "nom=de=plume" wrote:

Education is substantially by "the government," which explains most of
the
stupidity of the voting and purchasing public.


Really? Or, is it substantially by caring, intelligent teachers. Oh wait,
a
lot of them are represented by a union! Sorry!


You should be.........


You _are_ an idiot.



Colonel Kurtz September 22nd 10 10:26 PM

deficits don't matter
 

On 22-Sep-2010, "nom=de=plume" wrote:

Higher tax rates go as high as 40%, at a moderate incom,e. That's
lower.
Arithmetic impaired??


It almost certainly won't. The Republicans don't want to allow the rate to

rise for the top 2% in income. They claim, falsely, that actual small
business would be hit.

The Republicans and the Teabaggers claim they want to reduce the deficit,
yet they have no problem adding another $3T to it with tax breaks for the
rich.

It's bad enough that the deficit will increase with the tax breaks for the

middle and lower income groups, but at this point, there's little choice,
since raising their taxes would do much greater harm.


You missed your career in writing children's books. Do you have even a tiny
grasp that ****ing trillions of dollars down the drain is the opposite side
of the T chart? It's your money - if you want it in the hands of the DC
criminals, send it to them.

bpuharic September 23rd 10 12:07 AM

deficits don't matter
 
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 16:27:23 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote:


On 16-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

Education is substantially by "the government," which explains most of
the
stupidity of the voting and purchasing public.


i agree. conservatives outnumber liberals by 2:1

you have point


Watching the idiot box and joining up with the "conservative" "liberal"
distraction is dysfunctional. Ever seen a newspaper other than the rag
published where you live? D v R is equally asinine. You're stuck in cartoon
land.


anytime a right winger talks about someone else living in cartoon
land, it gives me a belly laugh


bpuharic September 23rd 10 12:08 AM

deficits don't matter
 
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 16:34:58 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote:


On 16-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

The government NEVER invests


WRONG. who developed the internet? the PC? who developed UC berkeley,
one of the finest schools in the world?


Look up the word investment


govt investment. thanks. i already knew that


you're simply a sheep in a right wing herd

(clinton used that term intentionally out of
context and the ass holes agreed). ****ing money down the drain for
studies
of how to wash your dick in Obama's homeland is not investment. Neither
is
paying the grossly inflated bills of irresponsible sub governments. If
"the
government" sent you money to pay for your pay television bill, it's not
an
investment, it's a waste. About 60% of what government is ****ing away
is
potential investment. It's your money, so who cares what they do???


gee. and wall street just sucked 11 TRILLION out of the economy in 3
years.

so tell me how efficient THAT was


"Wall Street," with which I have no activity or interest, paid back the
money that you still owe "the government."


really? got any proof?

Cooincidently they didn't send
trillions overseas as you did, and continue to do.


as do you since you're a right winger and believe the middle class
should be destroyed


bpuharic September 23rd 10 12:13 AM

deficits don't matter
 
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 16:24:52 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote:


On 16-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

Investment income is taxed at a lower rate to encourage investment,


which it does not do. we have lowered the tax rates on investment
income to 15%


Only for 3 more months - then you're "retirement" is screwed even deeper.


meaningless

The lowest tax rate now is 10% - it will rise 50% on January 1, 2011.


so 15%. wow. big deal. i'm paying 28%. they pay half of what i do.



and why should INVESTMENT income be treated differently than EARNED
income?


Read previous post, look up the big words. Have you invested in anything
other than foreign trinkets and lottery tickets? )Thise weren't
investments, for the thinking impaired.)


gee. how well's your theory working out NOW?? employment at 4%?

oh. your view ****ed the middle class and enriched the already rich

thanks. i already knew that.



it shouldn't. it leads to increasing wealth concentrated in fewer and
few hands...which is what's happening to america today


Seemingly increased wealth in "the few" (MORE millionaires and billionaires
than EVER in North America, including a ******** like Mexico)


yeah we're becoming more like mexico. so we have more millionaires.
so what? what good does that do working people?

you right wingers think ONLY the rich are human beings.


) looks
causative because the middle class is devastated and continuing to shrink -


courtesy of your rich buddies...

explained why 40 times here - the gap is wider, and widening - what are you
going to do to change that? Elect a different set of political parasites???
That's right, bitch, send money overseas - it worked until now, right?


gee. unionized countries aren't having this problems. think that might
have something to do with it? only the US is the middle class being
wiped out while the rich are doing fine

yet you ignore this evidence. you can't handle it because you're
rightwing and cant think outside the box



so your argument is COMPLETELY wrong


Don't beat yourself up for not understanding grade school economics.


let me know when you catch up


bpuharic September 23rd 10 12:15 AM

deficits don't matter
 
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 16:53:57 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote:


On 13-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

Apparently "the rich" (economic penis envy) did something better than
you.


yeah. they steal better than i do.


What (specifically!) was stolen from you. Use nouns, not mindless gibberish
you saw lipflapped on the idiot box.


reading comprehension is not a strength of yours, i see.

the entire middle class hasnt had a wage increase in almost 40 years.
yet you say that's just fine. think a decent wage should be paid to
the mddle class like they do in civilized countries?

oh. you don't. yo uthink it's fine the US middle class is being wiped
out.

any reason you hate the middle class? any reason you love a
plutocracy?



Nothing is constraining you except lack of drive and ambition - squealing
for handouts will get you nothing.

you believe the fairy tale that wall street is of god and never
steals, cheats or lies.


I've told the mindless class for 30+ years "Wall Street" is wagering.


meaningless

You
should know that. "Money" on paper wagers is bogus. Hard, tangible assets
are all that counts.


meaningless


You shouldn't call the jackass in the White House a darkie, he's half
cracker.


his race is irrelevant to me. to you it's the only thing that matters


YOU called him a darkie! Hitting the sauce this early in the day?


ROFLMAO!!! i didn't 'call' him a darkie. i made a sarcastic remark!!

HHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! you really ARE reading impaired




LG[_4_] September 23rd 10 01:00 AM

deficits don't matter
 
bpuharic wrote:
On Wed, 22 Sep 2010 16:27:23 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote:


On 16-Sep-2010, wrote:


Education is substantially by "the government," which explains most of
the
stupidity of the voting and purchasing public.

i agree. conservatives outnumber liberals by 2:1

you have point

Watching the idiot box and joining up with the "conservative" "liberal"
distraction is dysfunctional. Ever seen a newspaper other than the rag
published where you live? D v R is equally asinine. You're stuck in cartoon
land.

anytime a right winger talks about someone else living in cartoon
land, it gives me a belly laugh


That would have that effect - on a moron.

nom=de=plume[_2_] September 23rd 10 03:13 AM

deficits don't matter
 

"Colonel Kurtz" wrote in message
...

On 22-Sep-2010, "nom=de=plume" wrote:

Higher tax rates go as high as 40%, at a moderate incom,e. That's
lower.
Arithmetic impaired??


It almost certainly won't. The Republicans don't want to allow the rate
to

rise for the top 2% in income. They claim, falsely, that actual small
business would be hit.

The Republicans and the Teabaggers claim they want to reduce the deficit,
yet they have no problem adding another $3T to it with tax breaks for the
rich.

It's bad enough that the deficit will increase with the tax breaks for
the

middle and lower income groups, but at this point, there's little choice,
since raising their taxes would do much greater harm.


You missed your career in writing children's books. Do you have even a
tiny
grasp that ****ing trillions of dollars down the drain is the opposite
side
of the T chart? It's your money - if you want it in the hands of the DC
criminals, send it to them.


Jeeezus... you are stupid.


Colonel Kurtz September 24th 10 02:54 PM

deficits don't matter
 

On 22-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

The lowest tax rate now is 10% - it will rise 50% on January 1, 2011.


so 15%. wow. big deal. i'm paying 28%. they pay half of what i do.



One again we agree - the "poor" should pay their fair share




and why should INVESTMENT income be treated differently than EARNED
income?


Read previous post, look up the big words. Have you invested in anything
other than foreign trinkets and lottery tickets? )Thise weren't
investments, for the thinking impaired.)


gee. how well's your theory working out NOW?? employment at 4%?

oh. your view ****ed the middle class and enriched the already rich

thanks. i already knew that.



it shouldn't. it leads to increasing wealth concentrated in fewer and
few hands...which is what's happening to america today


Seemingly increased wealth in "the few" (MORE millionaires and
billionaires
than EVER in North America, including a ******** like Mexico)


yeah we're becoming more like mexico. so we have more millionaires.
so what? what good does that do working people?


Again, we agree - what's left of the U.S. is turning into Mexico
(culturally, educationally, and the old Mexican economy), EXCEPT Mexico is
on the upswing for production of products and exports. Their underbelly
class will rise; the U.S. middle class is sinking. What's the difference?
Mexico is accellerating production, "AMERICANS" by :all Asian, all the time.


you right wingers think ONLY the rich are human beings.


) looks
causative because the middle class is devastated and continuing to shrink
-


courtesy of your rich buddies...



My "rich buddies ($200K + ?? Hahahahahaha) don't waddle around in Toyota's
and send their money to red China vai Walmart.


explained why 40 times here - the gap is wider, and widening - what are
you
going to do to change that? Elect a different set of political
parasites???
That's right, bitch, send money overseas - it worked until now, right?


gee. unionized countries aren't having this problems. think that might
have something to do with it? only the US is the middle class being
wiped out while the rich are doing fine


Great idea! Have know nothing organized crime thugs drive more production
out of the U.S! That must be what is making red China blow the doors off
the U.S. Already the red Chinese economy is far larger is the U.S.'s but
appears smaller due to much lower wages. Hang on, the U.S. will become
competitive in 5 or 6 generations when the population lives like Mexicans.

Colonel Kurtz September 24th 10 02:57 PM

deficits don't matter
 

On 22-Sep-2010, "nom=de=plume" wrote:

You missed your career in writing children's books. Do you have even a
tiny
grasp that ****ing trillions of dollars down the drain is the opposite
side
of the T chart? It's your money - if you want it in the hands of the DC
criminals, send it to them.


Jeeezus... you are stupid.


Typical Marxist behavior - losing a debate and resorting to juvenile name
calling. It explains your voting and purchasing behavior.

Colonel Kurtz September 24th 10 02:58 PM

deficits don't matter
 

On 22-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

Watching the idiot box and joining up with the "conservative" "liberal"
distraction is dysfunctional. Ever seen a newspaper other than the rag
published where you live? D v R is equally asinine. You're stuck in
cartoon
land.


anytime a right winger talks about someone else living in cartoon
land, it gives me a belly laugh


Dancing for Dollars probably does to. Read. Not just the rag telling you
what some Hollywood whore did today.

Colonel Kurtz September 24th 10 03:02 PM

deficits don't matter
 

On 22-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

WRONG. who developed the internet? the PC? who developed UC berkeley,
one of the finest schools in the world?


Look up the word investment


govt investment. thanks. i already knew that



Government investment is an oxymoron. Government spends, never gains any
return, but they don't need to - they can always take whatever they want
away from you.



you're simply a sheep in a right wing herd

(clinton used that term intentionally out of
context and the ass holes agreed). ****ing money down the drain for
studies
of how to wash your dick in Obama's homeland is not investment.
Neither
is
paying the grossly inflated bills of irresponsible sub governments.
If
"the
government" sent you money to pay for your pay television bill, it's
not
an
investment, it's a waste. About 60% of what government is ****ing
away
is
potential investment. It's your money, so who cares what they do???

gee. and wall street just sucked 11 TRILLION out of the economy in 3
years.

so tell me how efficient THAT was


"Wall Street," with which I have no activity or interest, paid back the
money that you still owe "the government."


really? got any proof?


Stop staring at the idiot box and read - there are hundreds of newspapers
on-line, don't bother with the U.S. based rags.


Cooincidently they didn't send
trillions overseas as you did, and continue to do.


as do you since you're a right winger and believe the middle class
should be destroyed


The middle class is destroyed, and it won't be back for generations, perhaps
never. It was fun while it lasted, but it's over. Production "created" the
middle class - it's gone. Keep sending your money overseas and accelerate
the race to the end, it will be less painful.

Colonel Kurtz September 24th 10 03:06 PM

deficits don't matter
 

On 22-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

yeah. they steal better than i do.


What (specifically!) was stolen from you. Use nouns, not mindless
gibberish
you saw lipflapped on the idiot box.


reading comprehension is not a strength of yours, i see.

the entire middle class hasnt had a wage increase in almost 40 years.
yet you say that's just fine. think a decent wage should be paid to
the mddle class like they do in civilized countries?

oh. you don't. yo uthink it's fine the US middle class is being wiped
out.

any reason you hate the middle class? any reason you love a
plutocracy?


I don't send funds to 3rd world ********s except to produce products
"Americans" will buy. The middle class is in Japan, Korea and China, and
growing in India and Viet Nam, and you can't go there. Ever notice the
"people" sneaking into the U.S. are illiterate peasants - not engineers,
managers, designers, tool makers..........there's no jobs here because
people like you don't give a flying rats ass and send your money,
VOLUNTARILY, to those countries.

What do you need? A diaper change?

bpuharic September 24th 10 03:07 PM

deficits don't matter
 
On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:54:48 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote:


On 22-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

The lowest tax rate now is 10% - it will rise 50% on January 1, 2011.


so 15%. wow. big deal. i'm paying 28%. they pay half of what i do.



One again we agree - the "poor" should pay their fair share


and the rich, who raped the economy, should pay MORE


yeah we're becoming more like mexico. so we have more millionaires.
so what? what good does that do working people?


Again, we agree - what's left of the U.S. is turning into Mexico


due to right wing mythology that the rich take care of the middle
class if you bribe the rich

(culturally, educationally, and the old Mexican economy), EXCEPT Mexico is
on the upswing for production of products and exports. Their underbelly
class will rise; the U.S. middle class is sinking. What's the difference?
Mexico is accellerating production, "AMERICANS" by :all Asian, all the time.


because the rich have decided it's cheaper to deny americans a working
wage

the rich got a 500% pay increase in the last 37 years. the middle
class?

zero

that doesnt happen in other countries just as rich as the US.



you right wingers think ONLY the rich are human beings.


) looks
causative because the middle class is devastated and continuing to shrink
-


courtesy of your rich buddies...



My "rich buddies ($200K + ?? Hahahahahaha) don't waddle around in Toyota's
and send their money to red China vai Walmart.


neither do the germans, the swiss, the swedes, etc. yet their middle
classes are doing fine compared to ours

difference? in those countries the rich cant rape the economy like
your rich friends do here


gee. unionized countries aren't having this problems. think that might
have something to do with it? only the US is the middle class being
wiped out while the rich are doing fine


Great idea! Have know nothing organized crime thugs drive more production
out of the U.S!


we ALREADY HAVE NO UNIONS!! this IS the country with NO UNIONS

you just dont get it, do you? your experiment has already been run

countries with UNINOS do better than countries WITHOUT

That must be what is making red China blow the doors off
the U.S.


CHINA
Already the red Chinese economy is far larger is the U.S.'


wrong. china's is smaller than ours

s but
appears smaller due to much lower wages.


DUH...that's one way to measure an economy you moron.


Hang on, the U.S. will become
competitive in 5 or 6 generations when the population lives like Mexicans.


gee. how's the middle class doing in mexico?

oh. to you it's irrelevant. the rich are doing fine


bpuharic September 24th 10 03:08 PM

deficits don't matter
 
On Fri, 24 Sep 2010 13:58:00 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote:


On 22-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

Watching the idiot box and joining up with the "conservative" "liberal"
distraction is dysfunctional. Ever seen a newspaper other than the rag
published where you live? D v R is equally asinine. You're stuck in
cartoon
land.


anytime a right winger talks about someone else living in cartoon
land, it gives me a belly laugh


Dancing for Dollars probably does to. Read. Not just the rag telling you
what some Hollywood whore did today.


i read nobel prize winning economists of both the left and right

you read the 'storm front'


Colonel Kurtz September 26th 10 05:14 PM

deficits don't matter
 

On 24-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

Again, we agree - what's left of the U.S. is turning into Mexico


due to right wing mythology that the rich take care of the middle
class if you bribe the rich


The prior middle class needs to take care of themselves. The opportunity
wasn't wasted - the masses were and are still committing economic suicide.



(culturally, educationally, and the old Mexican economy), EXCEPT Mexico
is
on the upswing for production of products and exports. Their underbelly
class will rise; the U.S. middle class is sinking. What's the
difference?
Mexico is accellerating production, "AMERICANS" by :all Asian, all the
time.


because the rich have decided it's cheaper to deny americans a working
wage


Who specifically OWES you anything?



the rich got a 500% pay increase in the last 37 years. the middle
class?

zero


...and declining - you need to emigrate if you want an opportunity, or, are
you still looking for somebody else to "do something?"

Colonel Kurtz September 26th 10 05:17 PM

deficits don't matter
 

On 24-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

Dancing for Dollars probably does to. Read. Not just the rag telling
you
what some Hollywood whore did today.


i read nobel prize winning economists of both the left and right


There are functional economic behaviors, and destructive economic behaviors,
not "left" and "right" behaviors. As long as your Doctor Denton's are all
bunched up with TV blater, you won't understand.


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