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Secular Humorist[_3_] September 9th 10 07:17 PM

deficits don't matter
 
On 9/9/10 2:16 PM, Colonel Kurtz wrote:
On 9-Sep-2010, wrote:

Here's a suggestion.
Come up with some reasonable goals for America and post them here.


Turn it over to government control of everything (your light bulbs, shower
heads, toilettes and on and on), freeloaders, Islamic maniacs and Mexican
peasants. Oops! THAT was FAST!!

If you can't do that, then just roll up into a big ball and die.


The U.S. is YOUR problem, not mine. Survival of the fittest is mandatory
and unavoidable. "Americans" are not fit (educationally, culturally,
ethically, economically) and cannot survive to the level of standards of
only 30 years ago.


Aside from drooling your venom, what skills have you?

Colonel Kurtz September 9th 10 07:27 PM

deficits don't matter
 

On 9-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

What did they do? In actions, not name calling twaddle. Did they put a
gun
to your head and say "buy that asian auto!?"


nope. they simply sent jobs overseas and left us no choice about wages
or places to work. they took advantage of the myth that, if you work
hard, you'll get ahead...an idea that you and other right wingers
love.


They WATCHED middle class jobs go overseas - they DID make it possible with
their one way trade agreements. YOU watched also, then merely went along
with the trend. You elected those people. They would NOT be there if it were
not for the incompetence of your voters. Even you can understand that fact.

Previously 3rd world countries are experiencing incredible growth through
implementation of capitalism. Their rulers, and their population,
understand elementary economics and buy domestically. The U.S. auto
industry was the single largest core and vertically integrated industry in
North America. The U.S. said "c'mon in!" to Japan and Korea, and succumbed
to Japan's and Korea's policy of prohibition of your production/output.
What did you do about that? You buy Asian, lose your position, then bitch
about the scumbag politicians you put in office.

I don't know if you ever leave your backyard, but if so, isn't it
embarrassing for you to carry a U.S. passport?

Why does such a large percentage (85-90%) of the population want someone
else to save them from their own behavior?

By the way, you never even tried to answer my question - too much MSNBC
between your brain cells?

Colonel Kurtz September 9th 10 07:29 PM

deficits don't matter
 

On 8-Sep-2010, "nom=de=plume" wrote:

What the hell do ethics have to do with an alleged attorney? Attorneys
are
only one step up the food chain from politicians, and both are below
cockroaches. Ethics? Seriously??


And you complained that Bush+Cheney=2 brain cells total? You must be
jealous
of them!


Bush and Cheney have had absolutely nothing to do with policies of the
U.S.for almost 2 years. The president has little authority regardless
(congress passes laws and budgets), and the VP simply waits for the
president to die - no authority whatsoever.

You need to loosen your Doctor Denton's - they're giving you cramps.

Colonel Kurtz September 9th 10 07:31 PM

deficits don't matter
 

On 9-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

Translation: You didn't understand it then, and now you don't remember
what
it was about.


no, i stopped believing in santa claus when i was 6. you, apparently,
havient


Did you read Gulag Archipelago? It's all about the U.S. 20 years from
now.


ROFLMAO!! yes, i read that about the same time too. it was a
blueprint for ronald reagan's america under right wing control


You just proved you are Einstein, or a liar. Einstead is dead. Did you
"google" the name of the book?

Colonel Kurtz September 9th 10 07:40 PM

deficits don't matter
 

On 9-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

CORRECT! Your rulers since Nixon (executive and legislative branches of
the
roach hill) took you out! The demise was then aided and abetted by the
ignorant masses! We agree!


you bet! america is a right wing country. i have never voted for the
right.

as mencken once said, 'not all conservatives are stupid. but most
stupid people are conservatives'.


Conservative, liberal, republican, democrat, left, right - all those
mindless rants are what your rulers want you to debate, to keep you from
paying attention. Your rulers are batting about .800, keeping the ignorant
masses thoroughly distracted while you serve their demands - "Americans" are
the unconstrained feedbag for the power class.. That childish debate (SEEN
EVERYWHRE ON THE IDIOT BOX) is a criminal imposition by those needing the
masses to divide.

Facts, information, constructive development? Never - debate "conservative,
liberal, republican, democrat, left, right" - it keeps reality off the
table.There are no conservatives, no liberals, and there's a bigger
difference between 2 steaming piles of dog squeeze in the snow than between
democrats and republicans. But if people understood that, there'd be
nothing to talk about, right? No one to blame.

Ignorance is not bliss - the former United States in prima facie evidence.

Secular Humanist[_4_] September 9th 10 08:08 PM

deficits don't matter
 
In article ,
says...

On 9/9/10 2:16 PM, Colonel Kurtz wrote:
On 9-Sep-2010, wrote:

Here's a suggestion.
Come up with some reasonable goals for America and post them here.


Turn it over to government control of everything (your light bulbs, shower
heads, toilettes and on and on), freeloaders, Islamic maniacs and Mexican
peasants. Oops! THAT was FAST!!

If you can't do that, then just roll up into a big ball and die.


The U.S. is YOUR problem, not mine. Survival of the fittest is mandatory
and unavoidable. "Americans" are not fit (educationally, culturally,
ethically, economically) and cannot survive to the level of standards of
only 30 years ago.


Aside from drooling your venom, what skills have you?


Spoofer alert! Everyone here knows that I don't have any skills. Hell, I
take everything mechanical to someone who can fix it, I can't even
change the oil.

Colonel Kurtz September 9th 10 09:46 PM

deficits don't matter
 

On 9-Sep-2010, Secular Humorist wrote:

The U.S. is YOUR problem, not mine. Survival of the fittest is
mandatory
and unavoidable. "Americans" are not fit (educationally, culturally,
ethically, economically) and cannot survive to the level of standards of
only 30 years ago.


Aside from drooling your venom, what skills have you?


I've achieved much from investing every dime I had, twice, to build
successful production companies. Have you ever even atempted to do that, or
are you just picketing to get a union at Walmart so you can artificially
inflate your hourly wage?

bpuharic September 9th 10 10:23 PM

deficits don't matter
 
On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 18:31:25 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote:


On 9-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

Translation: You didn't understand it then, and now you don't remember
what
it was about.


no, i stopped believing in santa claus when i was 6. you, apparently,
havient


Did you read Gulag Archipelago? It's all about the U.S. 20 years from
now.


ROFLMAO!! yes, i read that about the same time too. it was a
blueprint for ronald reagan's america under right wing control


You just proved you are Einstein, or a liar. Einstead is dead. Did you
"google" the name of the book?


so you're telling me you don't know who wrote it, or what reagan
thought of it?

bpuharic September 9th 10 10:24 PM

deficits don't matter
 
On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 18:40:16 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote:


On 9-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

CORRECT! Your rulers since Nixon (executive and legislative branches of
the
roach hill) took you out! The demise was then aided and abetted by the
ignorant masses! We agree!


you bet! america is a right wing country. i have never voted for the
right.

as mencken once said, 'not all conservatives are stupid. but most
stupid people are conservatives'.


Conservative, liberal, republican, democrat, left, right - all those
mindless rants are what your rulers want you to debate, to keep you from
paying attention.


zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz


Facts, information, constructive development? Never - debate "conservative,
liberal, republican, democrat, left, right" - it keeps reality off the
table.There are no conservatives, no liberals, and there's a bigger
difference between 2 steaming piles of dog squeeze in the snow than between
democrats and republicans. But if people understood that, there'd be
nothing to talk about, right? No one to blame.


so what color was the last UFO you saw?


Ignorance is not bliss - the former United States in prima facie evidence.


bpuharic September 9th 10 10:27 PM

deficits don't matter
 
On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 18:16:07 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote:


On 9-Sep-2010, Jim wrote:

Here's a suggestion.
Come up with some reasonable goals for America and post them here.


Turn it over to government control of everything (your light bulbs, shower
heads, toilettes and on and on), freeloaders, Islamic maniacs and Mexican
peasants. Oops! THAT was FAST!!


what's funny is that, for decades, according to freedom house, the US
had the freest economy in the world. and the commies, as 'kurtz' has
admitted, just beat us at our own game.

the wealthy treated the middle class like a cash cow.


If you can't do that, then just roll up into a big ball and die.


The U.S. is YOUR problem, not mine. Survival of the fittest is mandatory
and unavoidable. "Americans" are not fit (educationally, culturally,
ethically, economically) and cannot survive to the level of standards of
only 30 years ago.


that's true. we've gotten too right wing. we believe all the bull****
rush and his crew feed us. those of us who are liberal are on the
right wing train headed over the cliff


bpuharic September 9th 10 10:31 PM

deficits don't matter
 
On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 18:27:11 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote:


On 9-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

What did they do? In actions, not name calling twaddle. Did they put a
gun
to your head and say "buy that asian auto!?"


nope. they simply sent jobs overseas and left us no choice about wages
or places to work. they took advantage of the myth that, if you work
hard, you'll get ahead...an idea that you and other right wingers
love.


They WATCHED middle class jobs go overseas


really? then why did the income of the richest 1% increase by 500%
over the past 37 years if they WATCHED this happen?

- they DID make it possible with
their one way trade agreements. YOU watched also, then merely went along
with the trend. You elected those people


ROFLMAO!! there are 110M registered voters in the US!!


Previously 3rd world countries are experiencing incredible growth through
implementation of capitalism. Their rulers, and their population,
understand elementary economics and buy domestically.


the US elites refused to pay living wages to the US middle class...all
the while feeding them stories about 'american exceptionalism' and
'jesus hates gays'...so instead of providing living wages, the right
wing got the middle class to worry about guns and religion

you right wingers are hysterical!


The U.S. auto
industry was the single largest core and vertically integrated industry in
North America. The U.S. said "c'mon in!" to Japan and Korea, and succumbed
to Japan's and Korea's policy of prohibition of your production/output.
What did you do about that? You buy Asian, lose your position, then bitch
about the scumbag politicians you put in office.


so here you sit blaming the middle class, ignoring the fact we simply
have no money.

and your solution is?

oh. listen to rush limballs...


I don't know if you ever leave your backyard, but if so, isn't it
embarrassing for you to carry a U.S. passport?

zzzzzzzz

By the way, you never even tried to answer my question - too much MSNBC
between your brain cells?


you have no questions. you have no answers. all you have is your right
wing fairy tales


bpuharic September 9th 10 10:31 PM

deficits don't matter
 
On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 18:29:57 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote:


On 8-Sep-2010, "nom=de=plume" wrote:

What the hell do ethics have to do with an alleged attorney? Attorneys
are
only one step up the food chain from politicians, and both are below
cockroaches. Ethics? Seriously??


And you complained that Bush+Cheney=2 brain cells total? You must be
jealous
of them!


Bush and Cheney have had absolutely nothing to do with policies of the
U.S.for almost 2 years. The president has little authority regardless
(congress passes laws and budgets), and the VP simply waits for the
president to die - no authority whatsoever.


IOW 'kurtz' isnt an american and has no idea about the political
influence of a US president...

Colonel Kurtz September 9th 10 11:09 PM

deficits don't matter
 

On 9-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

their one way trade agreements. YOU watched also, then merely went along
with the trend. You elected those people


ROFLMAO!! there are 110M registered voters in the US!!


That's an impressive statistic: 125+ million of the 110 million registered
voters voted for Mr. Magoo or Buckwheat in 2008. That clearly indicates
125+ million inhabitants are mentally deficient.

Colonel Kurtz September 9th 10 11:10 PM

deficits don't matter
 

On 9-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

Bush and Cheney have had absolutely nothing to do with policies of the
U.S.for almost 2 years. The president has little authority regardless
(congress passes laws and budgets), and the VP simply waits for the
president to die - no authority whatsoever.


IOW 'kurtz' isnt an american and has no idea about the political
influence of a US president...


To the bleating sheep, they are very powerful.

Colonel Kurtz September 9th 10 11:11 PM

deficits don't matter
 

On 9-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

You just proved you are Einstein, or a liar. Einstead is dead. Did you
"google" the name of the book?


so you're telling me you don't know who wrote it, or what reagan
thought of it?


I don't care what some politician "thought" of it. You never read it, not
could you. You should, it's your (or your heirs) future.

Colonel Kurtz September 9th 10 11:14 PM

deficits don't matter
 

On 9-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

Facts, information, constructive development? Never - debate
"conservative,
liberal, republican, democrat, left, right" - it keeps reality off the
table.There are no conservatives, no liberals, and there's a bigger
difference between 2 steaming piles of dog squeeze in the snow than
between
democrats and republicans. But if people understood that, there'd be
nothing to talk about, right? No one to blame.


so what color was the last UFO you saw?


It depends on how long it's been since I adjusted my tin foil hat.

You are being defrauded by your rulers. You should have noticed by now where
that's gotten you. Easier to watch the idiot box and go "uh huh...yup,"
right?

Jim September 9th 10 11:30 PM

deficits don't matter
 
bpuharic wrote:
On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 18:27:11 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"



The U.S. auto
industry was the single largest core and vertically integrated industry in
North America. The U.S. said "c'mon in!" to Japan and Korea, and succumbed
to Japan's and Korea's policy of prohibition of your production/output.
What did you do about that? You buy Asian, lose your position, then bitch
about the scumbag politicians you put in office.


so here you sit blaming the middle class, ignoring the fact we simply
have no money.


Sorry, bub. It was the "middle class" that went for foreign products.
Age of consumerism. Low wage labor wins the day.
Consumer reports probably did more to ship industrial capacity overseas
than any other entity.
The "middle class" sucked it up.
Can't count the times I heard "educated" people say the U.S. would be
the "brain" capital of the world and the scut work would be done overseas.
Fools. Having been among many people I knew the U.S. didn't have a lock
on brains.
Most of those "educated" people had their jobs offshored.
Serves 'em right. They had nothing but disdain for the people who
actually did productive work. **** 'em.

BTW, do you know why there are all those Toyota, Honda and other foreign
plants in the U.S. providing work for Americans?
Ronald Reagan.
As stupid as he was, he forced the Japs to start building plants here
under threat of tariff on Jap cars.

He was the last President to do ONE GOD DAMNED THING to protect American
jobs.
And that includes Obama.
That sap of yours allows billions of dollar of stimulus money to be
spent in China for his "green" energy initiative.
Read it and weep.
http://abcnews.go.com/WN/wind-power-...ory?id=9759949

As much as I find this Kurtz joker a putz, he's got some things right.
The pols have no ****ing idea how to fix the mess they allowed to
happen, and that includes Obama.
You go ahead and tell me how the 6000 "middle class" jobs he created
overseas instead of here ain't ****ing the American "middle class."

So Kurtz is right for now. I'm just hoping he won't stay right.
The jury is out, but it's been out too long to my taste.

Jim - Ever hopeful.


bpuharic September 9th 10 11:44 PM

deficits don't matter
 
On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 22:11:56 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote:


On 9-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

You just proved you are Einstein, or a liar. Einstead is dead. Did you
"google" the name of the book?


so you're telling me you don't know who wrote it, or what reagan
thought of it?


I don't care what some politician "thought" of it. You never read it, not
could you. You should, it's your (or your heirs) future.


gee. i didnt know you were telepathic. psychotic, yes. telepathic, no.

and yes, i read atlas shrugged. you're just a right winger who cant
believe someone wont accept your fairy tales

bpuharic September 9th 10 11:44 PM

deficits don't matter
 
On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 22:14:09 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote:

.

You are being defrauded by your rulers.


then we have something in common.

bpuharic September 9th 10 11:45 PM

deficits don't matter
 
On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 22:09:05 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote:


On 9-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

their one way trade agreements. YOU watched also, then merely went along
with the trend. You elected those people


ROFLMAO!! there are 110M registered voters in the US!!


That's an impressive statistic: 125+ million of the 110 million registered
voters voted for Mr. Magoo or Buckwheat in 2008. That clearly indicates
125+ million inhabitants are mentally deficient.


and you, in your plutocracy, dont bother with the vote at all.


Larry[_30_] September 9th 10 11:47 PM

deficits don't matter
 
bpuharic wrote:
On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 19:23:17 -0400,
wrote:


bpuharic wrote:

On Wed, 8 Sep 2010 11:45:31 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote:



On 7-Sep-2


where's your evidence?

i'm a scientist. i posted the EVIDENCE that the midcle class hasn't
had a pay increase in 37 years while the richest 1% have had a 500%
increase in that time

where's your evidence?

bull**** you have in spades.

where's your evidence?



Scientist? Did you go to Yale?

why? did you go to jale?


Was that an attempt at a joke? Really?

Larry[_30_] September 9th 10 11:50 PM

deficits don't matter
 
bpuharic wrote:
On Wed, 8 Sep 2010 17:07:32 -0700,
wrote:


wrote in message
...

Colonel Kurtz wrote:

On 7-Sep-2010, wrote:


under Reagan (1.38% vs. 1.92%), and private investment as a percentage
of
GDP also averaged lower under Reagan (16.08% vs. 16.86%). Furthermore,
real
wages declined sharply during the Reagan Presidency.[39]


Why do so many losers think a president controls "the economy?"

That's as stupid as an Obama sticker on a Toyota, and there's LOTS of
those.


The dumb bitch was too lazy to remove the [39] from her plagiarism? The
alleged attorney lacks the ethics to cite her lame source.

The liar/misogynist/racist is just too dumb.

he seems to hate all human beings

which is why he loves himself



Do you hate yourself, Bob? If you follow her posts you at least enjoy
abusing yourself.

Larry[_30_] September 9th 10 11:51 PM

deficits don't matter
 
Colonel Kurtz wrote:
On 8-Sep-2010, wrote:


i'm a scientist. i posted the EVIDENCE that the midcle class hasn't
had a pay increase in 37 years while the richest 1% have had a 500%
increase in that time

where's your evidence?

bull**** you have in spades.

where's your evidence?



Scientist? Did you go to Yale?

He probably meant Scientologist - he's waiting for the mother ship.

He does have that radio. You might be on to something.

Larry[_30_] September 9th 10 11:53 PM

deficits don't matter
 
bpuharic wrote:
On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 01:39:56 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote:


On 8-Sep-2010, wrote:


i'm a scientist. i posted the EVIDENCE that the midcle class hasn't
had a pay increase in 37 years while the richest 1% have had a 500%
increase in that time

where's your evidence?

bull**** you have in spades.

where's your evidence?



Scientist? Did you go to Yale?

He probably meant Scientologist - he's waiting for the mother ship.

if you're a heaven's gate disciple, the mother ship already left.

Is Don your writer? Fire him and get a better one.

bpuharic September 9th 10 11:59 PM

deficits don't matter
 
On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 17:30:39 -0500, Jim wrote:

bpuharic wrote:
On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 18:27:11 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"



The U.S. auto
industry was the single largest core and vertically integrated industry in
North America. The U.S. said "c'mon in!" to Japan and Korea, and succumbed
to Japan's and Korea's policy of prohibition of your production/output.
What did you do about that? You buy Asian, lose your position, then bitch
about the scumbag politicians you put in office.


so here you sit blaming the middle class, ignoring the fact we simply
have no money.


Sorry, bub. It was the "middle class" that went for foreign products.


sorry, bub. it was the middle class that had no choice due to no wage
increases in 37 years

Age of consumerism. Low wage labor wins the day.


zzzzzzzzzzzzz

Can't count the times I heard "educated" people say the U.S. would be
the "brain" capital of the world and the scut work would be done overseas.
Fools. Having been among many people I knew the U.S. didn't have a lock
on brains.


gee. even the rich are starting to figure this out. having raped the
middle class, even wall street is starting to get scared about being
tarred and feathered by main street


BTW, do you know why there are all those Toyota, Honda and other foreign
plants in the U.S. providing work for Americans?
Ronald Reagan.
As stupid as he was, he forced the Japs to start building plants here
under threat of tariff on Jap cars.


gee. i guess that's why i never complained about toyota and
honda....having owned a honda for the last 10 years.

He was the last President to do ONE GOD DAMNED THING to protect American
jobs.


is that why wages dropped under reagan?

And that includes Obama.
That sap of yours allows billions of dollar of stimulus money to be
spent in China for his "green" energy initiative.


guess you think he wears a green eyeshade and keeps track of every
george washington that goes through the economy.

you do have a simplisitic view of reality, don't you?

why not check to see how the middle class got wrecked by the right
wing

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/4Inequality.htm



As much as I find this Kurtz joker a putz, he's got some things right.
The pols have no ****ing idea how to fix the mess they allowed to
happen, and that includes Obama.


obama didn't create this mess. the american right did, with their
mythologies and the 'american dream' and 'guns and religion' bull****

You go ahead and tell me how the 6000 "middle class" jobs he created
overseas instead of here ain't ****ing the American "middle class."


6000 jobs?

you do realize bush lost 10 million, right?


bpuharic September 9th 10 11:59 PM

deficits don't matter
 
On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 22:10:26 GMT, "Colonel Kurtz"
wrote:


On 9-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

Bush and Cheney have had absolutely nothing to do with policies of the
U.S.for almost 2 years. The president has little authority regardless
(congress passes laws and budgets), and the VP simply waits for the
president to die - no authority whatsoever.


IOW 'kurtz' isnt an american and has no idea about the political
influence of a US president...


To the bleating sheep, they are very powerful.


what's laughable is he thinks congress has all the power and the pres
had n one.

that view is quaint.


bpuharic September 10th 10 12:04 AM

deficits don't matter
 
On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 18:47:59 -0400, Larry
wrote:

bpuharic wrote:
On Wed, 08 Sep 2010 19:23:17 -0400,
wrote:


where's your evidence?

bull**** you have in spades.

where's your evidence?



Scientist? Did you go to Yale?

why? did you go to jale?


Was that an attempt at a joke? Really?


no it was a yoke


BAR[_2_] September 10th 10 12:06 AM

deficits don't matter
 
In article ,
says...

On 9/9/10 2:16 PM, Colonel Kurtz wrote:
On 9-Sep-2010, wrote:

Here's a suggestion.
Come up with some reasonable goals for America and post them here.


Turn it over to government control of everything (your light bulbs, shower
heads, toilettes and on and on), freeloaders, Islamic maniacs and Mexican
peasants. Oops! THAT was FAST!!

If you can't do that, then just roll up into a big ball and die.


The U.S. is YOUR problem, not mine. Survival of the fittest is mandatory
and unavoidable. "Americans" are not fit (educationally, culturally,
ethically, economically) and cannot survive to the level of standards of
only 30 years ago.


Aside from drooling your venom, what skills have you?


How is the basement dwelling business these days?


Secular Humorist[_3_] September 10th 10 12:14 AM

deficits don't matter
 
On 9/9/10 7:06 PM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On 9/9/10 2:16 PM, Colonel Kurtz wrote:
On 9-Sep-2010, wrote:

Here's a suggestion.
Come up with some reasonable goals for America and post them here.

Turn it over to government control of everything (your light bulbs, shower
heads, toilettes and on and on), freeloaders, Islamic maniacs and Mexican
peasants. Oops! THAT was FAST!!

If you can't do that, then just roll up into a big ball and die.

The U.S. is YOUR problem, not mine. Survival of the fittest is mandatory
and unavoidable. "Americans" are not fit (educationally, culturally,
ethically, economically) and cannot survive to the level of standards of
only 30 years ago.


Aside from drooling your venom, what skills have you?


How is the basement dwelling business these days?



You'd have to ask someone who dwells in a basement, *****forbrains* .

How's your boat?

Jim September 10th 10 12:39 AM

deficits don't matter
 
bpuharic wrote:
On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 17:30:39 -0500, Jim wrote:



And that includes Obama.
That sap of yours allows billions of dollar of stimulus money to be
spent in China for his "green" energy initiative.


guess you think he wears a green eyeshade and keeps track of every
george washington that goes through the economy.

Jesus Christ. Four Dem senators tried to get a "Buy American" clause in
the bill. There was big ****ing stink about it.
Your boy Obama went along with Wall Street and the free traders who
cried foul.


you do have a simplisitic view of reality, don't you?

why not check to see how the middle class got wrecked by the right
wing

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/4Inequality.htm


Let's see Obama turn that around. Sending jobs to China won't do it.

As much as I find this Kurtz joker a putz, he's got some things right.
The pols have no ****ing idea how to fix the mess they allowed to
happen, and that includes Obama.


obama didn't create this mess. the american right did, with their
mythologies and the 'american dream' and 'guns and religion' bull****

You go ahead and tell me how the 6000 "middle class" jobs he created
overseas instead of here ain't ****ing the American "middle class."


6000 jobs?

you do realize bush lost 10 million, right?


You best forget Bush and keep your eyes on Obama now.
Otherwise you're as dumb as Kurts says you are.
You don't solve problems by talking about Bush.

Jim - It's groundhog day with this guy - every day.

bpuharic September 10th 10 01:00 AM

deficits don't matter
 
On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 18:39:19 -0500, Jim wrote:

bpuharic wrote:
On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 17:30:39 -0500, Jim wrote:



And that includes Obama.
That sap of yours allows billions of dollar of stimulus money to be
spent in China for his "green" energy initiative.


guess you think he wears a green eyeshade and keeps track of every
george washington that goes through the economy.

Jesus Christ. Four Dem senators tried to get a "Buy American" clause in
the bill. There was big ****ing stink about it.
Your boy Obama went along with Wall Street and the free traders who
cried foul.


actually i agree with milton friedman; free trade, so the evidence
shows, raises standards of living EXCEPT when it becomes a race to the
bottom.

you can't raise standards of living in the US by forcing us to pay
more for the things we buy. you increase standards by setting minimum
standards for living conditions in countries, similiar to setting free
trade conditions. that way you're not c ompeting by destroying living
standards

the fact is that the decrease in american living standards has
resulted in transfer of wealth from the middle class to the wealthy.
productiviity in this country INCREASED over the last decade but the
middle class got NONE of it

so while you're saying that americans should pay MORE for the things
we buy, the LOGICAL argument is that americans should b paid for the
things we produce. but we're not. the rich just keep sucking up all
the money for themselves

go ahead. continue to blame the middle class. it's a lolsing argument
based on emotion, not logic.



you do have a simplisitic view of reality, don't you?

why not check to see how the middle class got wrecked by the right
wing

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/4Inequality.htm


Let's see Obama turn that around. Sending jobs to China won't do it.


see above


As much as I find this Kurtz joker a putz, he's got some things right.
The pols have no ****ing idea how to fix the mess they allowed to
happen, and that includes Obama.


obama didn't create this mess. the american right did, with their
mythologies and the 'american dream' and 'guns and religion' bull****

You go ahead and tell me how the 6000 "middle class" jobs he created
overseas instead of here ain't ****ing the American "middle class."


6000 jobs?

you do realize bush lost 10 million, right?


You best forget Bush and keep your eyes on Obama now.


bull****. while you're blaming obama and telling us how the middle
class should pay even MORE than we do, the rich are already sucking up
as much money as they can

Otherwise you're as dumb as Kurts says you are.
You don't solve problems by talking about Bush.


and you dont solve them by ignoring their causes.


Jim - It's groundhog day with this guy - every day.


yeah. seems you want 29 all over again


nom=de=plume[_2_] September 10th 10 02:11 AM

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"Colonel Kurtz" wrote in message
...

On 9-Sep-2010, beach baLL wrote:

The assholes you've elected this term tout "green jobs" all the while
knowing 90-95% of the production of the green systems consumed in the
U.S.
will be imported. The U.S. is not conducive to producing anything due
to
outrageous regulation and costs mandated by the same aforementioned
scum.

Sure you did. Sure.

Sure you did what?


I wondered that too. Just more evidence of the "skilled" workforce in the
U.S.


Just more evidence that you're probably lying.



nom=de=plume[_2_] September 10th 10 02:13 AM

deficits don't matter
 

"Colonel Kurtz" wrote in message
...

On 8-Sep-2010, "nom=de=plume" wrote:

What the hell do ethics have to do with an alleged attorney? Attorneys
are
only one step up the food chain from politicians, and both are below
cockroaches. Ethics? Seriously??


And you complained that Bush+Cheney=2 brain cells total? You must be
jealous
of them!


Bush and Cheney have had absolutely nothing to do with policies of the
U.S.for almost 2 years. The president has little authority regardless
(congress passes laws and budgets), and the VP simply waits for the
president to die - no authority whatsoever.

You need to loosen your Doctor Denton's - they're giving you cramps.


Actually, you're wrong. The current administration is, as you well know,
trying to get the economy moving again as a direct result of their
"policies."

You need to become less unhinged, since you seem to have the propensity to
bend over forward instead back.



BAR[_2_] September 10th 10 12:20 PM

deficits don't matter
 
In article ,
says...

On 9/9/10 7:06 PM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On 9/9/10 2:16 PM, Colonel Kurtz wrote:
On 9-Sep-2010, wrote:

Here's a suggestion.
Come up with some reasonable goals for America and post them here.

Turn it over to government control of everything (your light bulbs, shower
heads, toilettes and on and on), freeloaders, Islamic maniacs and Mexican
peasants. Oops! THAT was FAST!!

If you can't do that, then just roll up into a big ball and die.

The U.S. is YOUR problem, not mine. Survival of the fittest is mandatory
and unavoidable. "Americans" are not fit (educationally, culturally,
ethically, economically) and cannot survive to the level of standards of
only 30 years ago.

Aside from drooling your venom, what skills have you?


How is the basement dwelling business these days?



You'd have to ask someone who dwells in a basement, *****forbrains* .

How's your boat?


How are your custome made Home Depot cabinets doing? And is your Walmart
purchased printer, is it still humming along printing your vile filth?



Secular Humanist[_4_] September 10th 10 02:06 PM

deficits don't matter
 
In article ,
says...

On 9/9/10 7:06 PM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On 9/9/10 2:16 PM, Colonel Kurtz wrote:
On 9-Sep-2010, wrote:

Here's a suggestion.
Come up with some reasonable goals for America and post them here.

Turn it over to government control of everything (your light bulbs, shower
heads, toilettes and on and on), freeloaders, Islamic maniacs and Mexican
peasants. Oops! THAT was FAST!!

If you can't do that, then just roll up into a big ball and die.

The U.S. is YOUR problem, not mine. Survival of the fittest is mandatory
and unavoidable. "Americans" are not fit (educationally, culturally,
ethically, economically) and cannot survive to the level of standards of
only 30 years ago.

Aside from drooling your venom, what skills have you?


How is the basement dwelling business these days?



You'd have to ask someone who dwells in a basement, *****forbrains* .

How's your boat?


I have a lot of boats, spoofer, which one are you talking about? My
lobsta' boat?

Colonel Kurtz September 10th 10 03:22 PM

deficits don't matter
 

On 9-Sep-2010, "Colonel Kurtz" wrote:

ROFLMAO!! there are 110M registered voters in the US!!


That's an impressive statistic: 125+ million of the 110 million registered
voters voted for Mr. Magoo or Buckwheat in 2008. That clearly indicates
125+ million inhabitants are mentally deficient.


EXCUUUUUUUSE ME! I F**KED UP! I didn't count all 57 states!

Colonel Kurtz September 10th 10 03:33 PM

deficits don't matter
 

On 9-Sep-2010, Jim wrote:

North America. The U.S. said "c'mon in!" to Japan and Korea, and
succumbed
to Japan's and Korea's policy of prohibition of your production/output.

What did you do about that? You buy Asian, lose your position, then
bitch
about the scumbag politicians you put in office.


so here you sit blaming the middle class, ignoring the fact we simply
have no money.


Sorry, bub. It was the "middle class" that went for foreign products.
Age of consumerism. Low wage labor wins the day.
Consumer reports probably did more to ship industrial capacity overseas
than any other entity.
The "middle class" sucked it up.
Can't count the times I heard "educated" people say the U.S. would be
the "brain" capital of the world and the scut work would be done overseas.
Fools. Having been among many people I knew the U.S. didn't have a lock
on brains.
Most of those "educated" people had their jobs offshored.
Serves 'em right. They had nothing but disdain for the people who
actually did productive work. **** 'em.


Substantially accurate assesment.


BTW, do you know why there are all those Toyota, Honda and other foreign
plants in the U.S. providing work for Americans?
Ronald Reagan.
As stupid as he was, he forced the Japs to start building plants here
under threat of tariff on Jap cars.


The Asian auto plants are final assembly plants - U.S. content is minimal,
but the perception that these vehicles are "made" in the U.S.A. is common.
One must understand the concept of fixed costs, which are 50% of the cost of
developing and marketing a vehicle. Final assembly factory labor is good
considering the alternative is complete importation, but raw materials,
engineering, management, tooling, capital equipment and all R & D are
foreign. Toyotas are not "made" in the United States. Only a few weeks ago
I provided engineering trouble shooting services to a facility attempting to
produce parts for Nissan. Tooling was red Chinese, capital equipment was
red Chinese, raw material was Japanese, the plant was in Mexico. This is
common and in the majority - the vehicles are not "made" in the U.S.


He was the last President to do ONE GOD DAMNED THING to protect American
jobs.
And that includes Obama.
That sap of yours allows billions of dollar of stimulus money to be
spent in China for his "green" energy initiative.
Read it and weep.
http://abcnews.go.com/WN/wind-power-...ory?id=9759949

As much as I find this Kurtz joker a putz, he's got some things right.
The pols have no ****ing idea how to fix the mess they allowed to
happen, and that includes Obama.
You go ahead and tell me how the 6000 "middle class" jobs he created
overseas instead of here ain't ****ing the American "middle class."

So Kurtz is right for now. I'm just hoping he won't stay right.
The jury is out, but it's been out too long to my taste.

Jim - Ever hopeful.


Colonel Kurtz September 10th 10 03:38 PM

deficits don't matter
 

On 9-Sep-2010, "nom=de=plume" wrote:

Bush and Cheney have had absolutely nothing to do with policies of the
U.S.for almost 2 years. The president has little authority regardless
(congress passes laws and budgets), and the VP simply waits for the
president to die - no authority whatsoever.

You need to loosen your Doctor Denton's - they're giving you cramps.


Actually, you're wrong. The current administration is, as you well know,
trying to get the economy moving again as a direct result of their
"policies."

You need to become less unhinged, since you seem to have the propensity to

bend over forward instead back.


The "current administration" (and any others in recent memory) doesn't care
whether you are alive or dead, warm in the winter or starving. It's all
about party, no matter the degree of corruption. You and the huddling masses
are only livestock to be harvested. Once you cannot be harvested, they don't
even want you alive. Ask anyone caring for a person in a hospital on
medicare - the caretakers are encouraged top "let 'em die" because the
individual no longer serves their destiny as a source of money to the
rulers.

Colonel Kurtz September 10th 10 03:41 PM

deficits don't matter
 

On 9-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

You just proved you are Einstein, or a liar. Einstead is dead. Did
you
"google" the name of the book?

so you're telling me you don't know who wrote it, or what reagan
thought of it?


I don't care what some politician "thought" of it. You never read it, not
could you. You should, it's your (or your heirs) future.


gee. i didnt know you were telepathic. psychotic, yes. telepathic, no.

and yes, i read atlas shrugged. you're just a right winger who cant
believe someone wont accept your fairy tales


You worship at the alter of Obama and congress and I HAVE FAIRY TALES! Oh
yeah...better adjust your aluminum hat.

nom=de=plume[_2_] September 10th 10 06:23 PM

deficits don't matter
 

"Colonel Kurtz" wrote in message
...

On 9-Sep-2010, "nom=de=plume" wrote:

Bush and Cheney have had absolutely nothing to do with policies of the
U.S.for almost 2 years. The president has little authority regardless
(congress passes laws and budgets), and the VP simply waits for the
president to die - no authority whatsoever.

You need to loosen your Doctor Denton's - they're giving you cramps.


Actually, you're wrong. The current administration is, as you well know,
trying to get the economy moving again as a direct result of their
"policies."

You need to become less unhinged, since you seem to have the propensity
to

bend over forward instead back.


The "current administration" (and any others in recent memory) doesn't
care
whether you are alive or dead, warm in the winter or starving. It's all
about party, no matter the degree of corruption. You and the huddling
masses
are only livestock to be harvested. Once you cannot be harvested, they
don't
even want you alive. Ask anyone caring for a person in a hospital on
medicare - the caretakers are encouraged top "let 'em die" because the
individual no longer serves their destiny as a source of money to the
rulers.


You've got some serious life problems I'm sure. And, I'm sorry for you, but
your completely wrong.




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