On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 18:39:19 -0500, Jim wrote:

bpuharic wrote:
On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 17:30:39 -0500, Jim wrote:



And that includes Obama.
That sap of yours allows billions of dollar of stimulus money to be
spent in China for his "green" energy initiative.

guess you think he wears a green eyeshade and keeps track of every
george washington that goes through the economy.

Jesus Christ. Four Dem senators tried to get a "Buy American" clause in
the bill. There was big ****ing stink about it.
Your boy Obama went along with Wall Street and the free traders who
cried foul.

actually i agree with milton friedman; free trade, so the evidence
shows, raises standards of living EXCEPT when it becomes a race to the
bottom.

you can't raise standards of living in the US by forcing us to pay
more for the things we buy. you increase standards by setting minimum
standards for living conditions in countries, similiar to setting free
trade conditions. that way you're not c ompeting by destroying living
standards

the fact is that the decrease in american living standards has
resulted in transfer of wealth from the middle class to the wealthy.
productiviity in this country INCREASED over the last decade but the
middle class got NONE of it

so while you're saying that americans should pay MORE for the things
we buy, the LOGICAL argument is that americans should b paid for the
things we produce. but we're not. the rich just keep sucking up all
the money for themselves

go ahead. continue to blame the middle class. it's a lolsing argument
based on emotion, not logic.



you do have a simplisitic view of reality, don't you?

why not check to see how the middle class got wrecked by the right
wing

http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/4Inequality.htm


Let's see Obama turn that around. Sending jobs to China won't do it.

see above


As much as I find this Kurtz joker a putz, he's got some things right.
The pols have no ****ing idea how to fix the mess they allowed to
happen, and that includes Obama.

obama didn't create this mess. the american right did, with their
mythologies and the 'american dream' and 'guns and religion' bull****

You go ahead and tell me how the 6000 "middle class" jobs he created
overseas instead of here ain't ****ing the American "middle class."

6000 jobs?

you do realize bush lost 10 million, right?


You best forget Bush and keep your eyes on Obama now.

bull****. while you're blaming obama and telling us how the middle
class should pay even MORE than we do, the rich are already sucking up
as much money as they can

Otherwise you're as dumb as Kurts says you are.
You don't solve problems by talking about Bush.

and you dont solve them by ignoring their causes.


Jim - It's groundhog day with this guy - every day.

yeah. seems you want 29 all over again

"Colonel Kurtz" wrote in message
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On 9-Sep-2010, beach baLL wrote:

The assholes you've elected this term tout "green jobs" all the while
knowing 90-95% of the production of the green systems consumed in the
U.S.
will be imported. The U.S. is not conducive to producing anything due
to
outrageous regulation and costs mandated by the same aforementioned
scum.

Sure you did. Sure.
Sure you did what?

I wondered that too. Just more evidence of the "skilled" workforce in the
U.S.

Just more evidence that you're probably lying.

"Colonel Kurtz" wrote in message
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On 8-Sep-2010, "nom=de=plume" wrote:

What the hell do ethics have to do with an alleged attorney? Attorneys
are
only one step up the food chain from politicians, and both are below
cockroaches. Ethics? Seriously??

And you complained that Bush+Cheney=2 brain cells total? You must be
jealous
of them!

Bush and Cheney have had absolutely nothing to do with policies of the
U.S.for almost 2 years. The president has little authority regardless
(congress passes laws and budgets), and the VP simply waits for the
president to die - no authority whatsoever.

You need to loosen your Doctor Denton's - they're giving you cramps.

Actually, you're wrong. The current administration is, as you well know,
trying to get the economy moving again as a direct result of their
"policies."

You need to become less unhinged, since you seem to have the propensity to
bend over forward instead back.

In article ,
says...

On 9/9/10 7:06 PM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On 9/9/10 2:16 PM, Colonel Kurtz wrote:
On 9-Sep-2010, wrote:

Here's a suggestion.
Come up with some reasonable goals for America and post them here.

Turn it over to government control of everything (your light bulbs, shower
heads, toilettes and on and on), freeloaders, Islamic maniacs and Mexican
peasants. Oops! THAT was FAST!!

If you can't do that, then just roll up into a big ball and die.

The U.S. is YOUR problem, not mine. Survival of the fittest is mandatory
and unavoidable. "Americans" are not fit (educationally, culturally,
ethically, economically) and cannot survive to the level of standards of
only 30 years ago.

Aside from drooling your venom, what skills have you?

How is the basement dwelling business these days?



You'd have to ask someone who dwells in a basement, *****forbrains* .

How's your boat?

How are your custome made Home Depot cabinets doing? And is your Walmart
purchased printer, is it still humming along printing your vile filth?

In article ,
says...

On 9/9/10 7:06 PM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...

On 9/9/10 2:16 PM, Colonel Kurtz wrote:
On 9-Sep-2010, wrote:

Here's a suggestion.
Come up with some reasonable goals for America and post them here.

Turn it over to government control of everything (your light bulbs, shower
heads, toilettes and on and on), freeloaders, Islamic maniacs and Mexican
peasants. Oops! THAT was FAST!!

If you can't do that, then just roll up into a big ball and die.

The U.S. is YOUR problem, not mine. Survival of the fittest is mandatory
and unavoidable. "Americans" are not fit (educationally, culturally,
ethically, economically) and cannot survive to the level of standards of
only 30 years ago.

Aside from drooling your venom, what skills have you?

How is the basement dwelling business these days?



You'd have to ask someone who dwells in a basement, *****forbrains* .

How's your boat?

I have a lot of boats, spoofer, which one are you talking about? My
lobsta' boat?

On 9-Sep-2010, "Colonel Kurtz" wrote:

ROFLMAO!! there are 110M registered voters in the US!!

That's an impressive statistic: 125+ million of the 110 million registered
voters voted for Mr. Magoo or Buckwheat in 2008. That clearly indicates
125+ million inhabitants are mentally deficient.

EXCUUUUUUUSE ME! I F**KED UP! I didn't count all 57 states!

On 9-Sep-2010, Jim wrote:

North America. The U.S. said "c'mon in!" to Japan and Korea, and
succumbed
to Japan's and Korea's policy of prohibition of your production/output.

What did you do about that? You buy Asian, lose your position, then
bitch
about the scumbag politicians you put in office.

so here you sit blaming the middle class, ignoring the fact we simply
have no money.


Sorry, bub. It was the "middle class" that went for foreign products.
Age of consumerism. Low wage labor wins the day.
Consumer reports probably did more to ship industrial capacity overseas
than any other entity.
The "middle class" sucked it up.
Can't count the times I heard "educated" people say the U.S. would be
the "brain" capital of the world and the scut work would be done overseas.
Fools. Having been among many people I knew the U.S. didn't have a lock
on brains.
Most of those "educated" people had their jobs offshored.
Serves 'em right. They had nothing but disdain for the people who
actually did productive work. **** 'em.

Substantially accurate assesment.


BTW, do you know why there are all those Toyota, Honda and other foreign
plants in the U.S. providing work for Americans?
Ronald Reagan.
As stupid as he was, he forced the Japs to start building plants here
under threat of tariff on Jap cars.

The Asian auto plants are final assembly plants - U.S. content is minimal,
but the perception that these vehicles are "made" in the U.S.A. is common.
One must understand the concept of fixed costs, which are 50% of the cost of
developing and marketing a vehicle. Final assembly factory labor is good
considering the alternative is complete importation, but raw materials,
engineering, management, tooling, capital equipment and all R & D are
foreign. Toyotas are not "made" in the United States. Only a few weeks ago
I provided engineering trouble shooting services to a facility attempting to
produce parts for Nissan. Tooling was red Chinese, capital equipment was
red Chinese, raw material was Japanese, the plant was in Mexico. This is
common and in the majority - the vehicles are not "made" in the U.S.


He was the last President to do ONE GOD DAMNED THING to protect American
jobs.
And that includes Obama.
That sap of yours allows billions of dollar of stimulus money to be
spent in China for his "green" energy initiative.
Read it and weep.
http://abcnews.go.com/WN/wind-power-...ory?id=9759949

As much as I find this Kurtz joker a putz, he's got some things right.
The pols have no ****ing idea how to fix the mess they allowed to
happen, and that includes Obama.
You go ahead and tell me how the 6000 "middle class" jobs he created
overseas instead of here ain't ****ing the American "middle class."

So Kurtz is right for now. I'm just hoping he won't stay right.
The jury is out, but it's been out too long to my taste.

Jim - Ever hopeful.

On 9-Sep-2010, "nom=de=plume" wrote:

Bush and Cheney have had absolutely nothing to do with policies of the
U.S.for almost 2 years. The president has little authority regardless
(congress passes laws and budgets), and the VP simply waits for the
president to die - no authority whatsoever.

You need to loosen your Doctor Denton's - they're giving you cramps.

Actually, you're wrong. The current administration is, as you well know,
trying to get the economy moving again as a direct result of their
"policies."

You need to become less unhinged, since you seem to have the propensity to

bend over forward instead back.

The "current administration" (and any others in recent memory) doesn't care
whether you are alive or dead, warm in the winter or starving. It's all
about party, no matter the degree of corruption. You and the huddling masses
are only livestock to be harvested. Once you cannot be harvested, they don't
even want you alive. Ask anyone caring for a person in a hospital on
medicare - the caretakers are encouraged top "let 'em die" because the
individual no longer serves their destiny as a source of money to the
rulers.

On 9-Sep-2010, bpuharic wrote:

You just proved you are Einstein, or a liar. Einstead is dead. Did
you
"google" the name of the book?

so you're telling me you don't know who wrote it, or what reagan
thought of it?

I don't care what some politician "thought" of it. You never read it, not
could you. You should, it's your (or your heirs) future.

gee. i didnt know you were telepathic. psychotic, yes. telepathic, no.

and yes, i read atlas shrugged. you're just a right winger who cant
believe someone wont accept your fairy tales

You worship at the alter of Obama and congress and I HAVE FAIRY TALES! Oh
yeah...better adjust your aluminum hat.

"Colonel Kurtz" wrote in message
...

On 9-Sep-2010, "nom=de=plume" wrote:

Bush and Cheney have had absolutely nothing to do with policies of the
U.S.for almost 2 years. The president has little authority regardless
(congress passes laws and budgets), and the VP simply waits for the
president to die - no authority whatsoever.

You need to loosen your Doctor Denton's - they're giving you cramps.

Actually, you're wrong. The current administration is, as you well know,
trying to get the economy moving again as a direct result of their
"policies."

You need to become less unhinged, since you seem to have the propensity
to

bend over forward instead back.

The "current administration" (and any others in recent memory) doesn't
care
whether you are alive or dead, warm in the winter or starving. It's all
about party, no matter the degree of corruption. You and the huddling
masses
are only livestock to be harvested. Once you cannot be harvested, they
don't
even want you alive. Ask anyone caring for a person in a hospital on
medicare - the caretakers are encouraged top "let 'em die" because the
individual no longer serves their destiny as a source of money to the
rulers.

You've got some serious life problems I'm sure. And, I'm sorry for you, but
your completely wrong.