Avoiding taxes....
 

The Kerry Way!!

"Sen. John Kerry, who has repeatedly voted to raise taxes while in
Congress, dodged a whopping six-figure state tax bill on his new
multimillion-dollar yacht by mooring her in Newport, R.I."

http://bostonherald.com/track/inside...icleid=1269698

Gotta love it.

Avoiding taxes....
 

On 7/23/10 8:44 AM, W1TEF wrote:
The Kerry Way!!

"Sen. John Kerry, who has repeatedly voted to raise taxes while in
Congress, dodged a whopping six-figure state tax bill on his new
multimillion-dollar yacht by mooring her in Newport, R.I."

http://bostonherald.com/track/inside...icleid=1269698

Gotta love it.


Aren't you doing the same thing with your "dockage" in south carolina?

Avoiding taxes....
 

"W1TEF" wrote in message
...
The Kerry Way!!

"Sen. John Kerry, who has repeatedly voted to raise taxes while in
Congress, dodged a whopping six-figure state tax bill on his new
multimillion-dollar yacht by mooring her in Newport, R.I."

http://bostonherald.com/track/inside...icleid=1269698

Gotta love it.

Another democrat dirtbag in congress.

--
Harold

Avoiding taxes....
 

On 23/07/2010 6:44 AM, W1TEF wrote:
The Kerry Way!!

"Sen. John Kerry, who has repeatedly voted to raise taxes while in
Congress, dodged a whopping six-figure state tax bill on his new
multimillion-dollar yacht by mooring her in Newport, R.I."

http://bostonherald.com/track/inside...icleid=1269698

Gotta love it.

Taxes are for the sheep. That is why Obama/democrats are looking at a
VAT. Gets everyone everywhere. Unless of course you have the money to
shop outside of the US.

--

Government has liberals, idealists and lawyers, but where is the common
sense?

Avoiding taxes....
 

On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:40:33 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 23/07/2010 6:44 AM, W1TEF wrote:
The Kerry Way!!

"Sen. John Kerry, who has repeatedly voted to raise taxes while in
Congress, dodged a whopping six-figure state tax bill on his new
multimillion-dollar yacht by mooring her in Newport, R.I."

http://bostonherald.com/track/inside...icleid=1269698

Gotta love it.

Taxes are for the sheep. That is why Obama/democrats are looking at a
VAT. Gets everyone everywhere. Unless of course you have the money to
shop outside of the US.

Dude - don't you just hate it when the rich stick it to the rest of us
by not paying taxes?

I mean - like - I see it all the time here. :)

Avoiding taxes....
 

On 23/07/2010 9:49 AM, W1TEF wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:40:33 -0600,
wrote:

On 23/07/2010 6:44 AM, W1TEF wrote:
The Kerry Way!!

"Sen. John Kerry, who has repeatedly voted to raise taxes while in
Congress, dodged a whopping six-figure state tax bill on his new
multimillion-dollar yacht by mooring her in Newport, R.I."

http://bostonherald.com/track/inside...icleid=1269698

Gotta love it.

Taxes are for the sheep. That is why Obama/democrats are looking at a
VAT. Gets everyone everywhere. Unless of course you have the money to
shop outside of the US.

Dude - don't you just hate it when the rich stick it to the rest of us
by not paying taxes?

I mean - like - I see it all the time here. :)

DC is corrupt, no argument there. Voting for Obama just made it worse.

--

Government has liberals, idealists and lawyers, but where is the common
sense?

Avoiding taxes....
 

On Jul 23, 12:04*pm, Canuck57 wrote:
On 23/07/2010 9:49 AM, W1TEF wrote:



On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:40:33 -0600,
wrote:

On 23/07/2010 6:44 AM, W1TEF wrote:
The Kerry Way!!

"Sen. John Kerry, who has repeatedly voted to raise taxes while in
Congress, dodged a whopping six-figure state tax bill on his new
multimillion-dollar yacht by mooring her in Newport, R.I."

http://bostonherald.com/track/inside...icleid=1269698

Gotta love it.

Taxes are for the sheep. *That is why Obama/democrats are looking at a
VAT. *Gets everyone everywhere. Unless of course you have the money to
shop outside of the US.

Dude - don't you just hate it when the rich stick it to the rest of us
by not paying taxes?

I mean - like - I see it all the time here. *:)

DC is corrupt, no argument there. *Voting for Obama just made it worse.

--

Government has liberals, idealists and lawyers, but where is the common
sense?

Taxes are for the little people, Dems do not pay taxes.

Avoiding taxes....
 

On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:15:48 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Jul 23, 12:04*pm, Canuck57 wrote:
On 23/07/2010 9:49 AM, W1TEF wrote:



On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:40:33 -0600,
wrote:

On 23/07/2010 6:44 AM, W1TEF wrote:
The Kerry Way!!

"Sen. John Kerry, who has repeatedly voted to raise taxes while in
Congress, dodged a whopping six-figure state tax bill on his new
multimillion-dollar yacht by mooring her in Newport, R.I."

http://bostonherald.com/track/inside...icleid=1269698

Gotta love it.

Taxes are for the sheep. *That is why Obama/democrats are looking at a
VAT. *Gets everyone everywhere. Unless of course you have the money to
shop outside of the US.

Dude - don't you just hate it when the rich stick it to the rest of us
by not paying taxes?

I mean - like - I see it all the time here. *:)

DC is corrupt, no argument there. *Voting for Obama just made it worse.

--

Government has liberals, idealists and lawyers, but where is the common
sense?

Taxes are for the little people, Dems do not pay taxes.

You think there are more rich Ds than Rs?

Cite please.

My bet is you're talkin' outcher arse.

Avoiding taxes....
 

On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:03:47 -0400, "Harold"
wrote:

"W1TEF" wrote in message
.. .
The Kerry Way!!

"Sen. John Kerry, who has repeatedly voted to raise taxes while in
Congress, dodged a whopping six-figure state tax bill on his new
multimillion-dollar yacht by mooring her in Newport, R.I."

http://bostonherald.com/track/inside...icleid=1269698

Gotta love it.

Another democrat dirtbag in congress.

since when is tax avoidance illegal or immoral?

Avoiding taxes....
 

On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:40:33 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 23/07/2010 6:44 AM, W1TEF wrote:
The Kerry Way!!

"Sen. John Kerry, who has repeatedly voted to raise taxes while in
Congress, dodged a whopping six-figure state tax bill on his new
multimillion-dollar yacht by mooring her in Newport, R.I."

http://bostonherald.com/track/inside...icleid=1269698

Gotta love it.

Taxes are for the sheep. That is why Obama/democrats are looking at a
VAT.

hmmm....so you say. of course, he was gonna confiscate guns, too...

how'd that work out?

Avoiding taxes....
 

On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:04:58 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 23/07/2010 9:49 AM, W1TEF wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:40:33 -0600,
wrote:

On 23/07/2010 6:44 AM, W1TEF wrote:
The Kerry Way!!

"Sen. John Kerry, who has repeatedly voted to raise taxes while in
Congress, dodged a whopping six-figure state tax bill on his new
multimillion-dollar yacht by mooring her in Newport, R.I."

http://bostonherald.com/track/inside...icleid=1269698

Gotta love it.

Taxes are for the sheep. That is why Obama/democrats are looking at a
VAT. Gets everyone everywhere. Unless of course you have the money to
shop outside of the US.

Dude - don't you just hate it when the rich stick it to the rest of us
by not paying taxes?

I mean - like - I see it all the time here. :)

DC is corrupt, no argument there. Voting for Obama just made it worse.

yeah. he's black

Avoiding taxes....
 

On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:15:48 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:



Taxes are for the little people, Dems do not pay taxes.

funny that the GOP gave the rich the biggest tax cut in history...

Avoiding taxes....
 

On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:18:26 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:06:50 -0700, jps wrote:

You think there are more rich Ds than Rs?

Just the ones with power, like Senators and presidents.
I am sure a lot more poor people believe Democrats are helping them
but if you can believe the chart Bob is selling this week, the "middle
class" got screwed as badly in the 90s as they did in the 2000s.

Oh, come on. Those are the second and third tier sock puppets who do
the bidding of the truly powerful.

They write and pass laws to protect wealth and put systems in place to
ensure that the wealthy aren't disturbed.

My bet is that wealthy Ds are far more likely to accept a raise in
taxes than their Republican counterparts.

And my contention is that there are far fewer truly wealthy Ds than
Rs.

Avoiding taxes....
 

On Jul 23, 3:13*pm, jps wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:18:26 -0400, wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:06:50 -0700, jps wrote:

You think there are more rich Ds than Rs?

Just the ones with power, like Senators and presidents.
I am sure a lot more poor people believe Democrats are helping them
but if you can believe the chart Bob is selling this week, the "middle
class" got screwed as badly in the 90s as they did in the 2000s.

Oh, come on. *Those are the second and third tier sock puppets who do
the bidding of the truly powerful.

They write and pass laws to protect wealth and put systems in place to
ensure that the wealthy aren't disturbed.

My bet is that wealthy Ds are far more likely to accept a raise in
taxes than their Republican counterparts.

And my contention is that there are far fewer truly wealthy Ds than
Rs.

It is well known that Dems get more of their money from rich people
whereas the Repubs get theirs from small individual donations. Dems
are the party of the rich and the party of the parasitical overpaid
govt employees.
Look at how many of the Obama appointees illegally avoided paying
taxes until they were appointed. Then they were allowed to just pay a
few fines. Fat chance of that happening to anybody else. Dems
believe in taxing the poor and because they are rich they can afford
to pay tax advisors to avoid paying taxes.
All taxpayers are equal but some are more equal than others.
Democrats are the party of the rich.

Avoiding taxes....
 

On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 12:36:15 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:



It is well known that Dems get more of their money from rich people
whereas the Repubs get theirs from small individual donations

dont know if this is true but it's a fact there are more conservatives
than liberals. of course, mencken once said 'not all conservatives are
stupid people, but most stupid people are conservatives'

.. Dems
are the party of the rich and the party of the parasitical overpaid
govt employees.

hmmm...i suppose that's why in the last 30 years, 22 years have had
republiccan presidents.


e. Dems
believe in taxing the poor and because they are rich they can afford
to pay tax advisors to avoid paying taxes.

rather strange in that bush enacted tax cuts in 2003 and 2007 that
went to the rich...as did reagan. and the central position of the
GOP's platform on taxes is capital gains tax cuts

which go to the rich

so you're wrong. but, have no fear. rush will make up another lie you
can bull**** people with

All taxpayers are equal but some are more equal than others.
Democrats are the party of the rich.

fine. you go show me where the dems have proposed capital gains tax
cuts in their party platform, OK?

Avoiding taxes....
 

On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 12:36:15 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Jul 23, 3:13*pm, jps wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:18:26 -0400, wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:06:50 -0700, jps wrote:

You think there are more rich Ds than Rs?

Just the ones with power, like Senators and presidents.
I am sure a lot more poor people believe Democrats are helping them
but if you can believe the chart Bob is selling this week, the "middle
class" got screwed as badly in the 90s as they did in the 2000s.

Oh, come on. *Those are the second and third tier sock puppets who do
the bidding of the truly powerful.

They write and pass laws to protect wealth and put systems in place to
ensure that the wealthy aren't disturbed.

My bet is that wealthy Ds are far more likely to accept a raise in
taxes than their Republican counterparts.

And my contention is that there are far fewer truly wealthy Ds than
Rs.

It is well known that Dems get more of their money from rich people
whereas the Repubs get theirs from small individual donations. Dems
are the party of the rich and the party of the parasitical overpaid
govt employees.
Look at how many of the Obama appointees illegally avoided paying
taxes until they were appointed. Then they were allowed to just pay a
few fines. Fat chance of that happening to anybody else. Dems
believe in taxing the poor and because they are rich they can afford
to pay tax advisors to avoid paying taxes.
All taxpayers are equal but some are more equal than others.
Democrats are the party of the rich.

Barf.

Avoiding taxes....
 

On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:47:11 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 12:13:19 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:18:26 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:06:50 -0700, jps wrote:

You think there are more rich Ds than Rs?

Just the ones with power, like Senators and presidents.
I am sure a lot more poor people believe Democrats are helping them
but if you can believe the chart Bob is selling this week, the "middle
class" got screwed as badly in the 90s as they did in the 2000s.

Oh, come on. Those are the second and third tier sock puppets who do
the bidding of the truly powerful.

They write and pass laws to protect wealth and put systems in place to
ensure that the wealthy aren't disturbed.

My bet is that wealthy Ds are far more likely to accept a raise in
taxes than their Republican counterparts.

It certainly wouldn't be Kerry would it?

Singling out one example is silly and you know it.

Who (in this group especially) wouldn't want to avoid paying excise
tax on a boat purchase if they could do so by mooring the vessel in a
nearby state? That's a ****load of moorage prepaid.

Being a Democrat doesn't obligate you to run towards paying taxes.

Being a Republican does obligate you to tilt the tax structure
towards favoring the wealthy.

Avoiding taxes....
 

On Jul 23, 5:50*pm, jps wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:47:11 -0400, wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 12:13:19 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:18:26 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:06:50 -0700, jps wrote:

You think there are more rich Ds than Rs?

Just the ones with power, like Senators and presidents.
I am sure a lot more poor people believe Democrats are helping them
but if you can believe the chart Bob is selling this week, the "middle
class" got screwed as badly in the 90s as they did in the 2000s.

Oh, come on. *Those are the second and third tier sock puppets who do
the bidding of the truly powerful.

They write and pass laws to protect wealth and put systems in place to
ensure that the wealthy aren't disturbed.

My bet is that wealthy Ds are far more likely to accept a raise in
taxes than their Republican counterparts.

It certainly wouldn't be Kerry would it?

Singling out one example is silly and you know it.

Who (in this group especially) wouldn't want to avoid paying excise
tax on a boat purchase if they could do so by mooring the vessel in a
nearby state? *That's a ****load of moorage prepaid.

Being a Democrat doesn't obligate you to run towards paying taxes.

Being *a Republican does obligate you to tilt the tax structure
towards favoring the wealthy.

It is a simple case of hypocrisy, wanting other people to pay taxes he
is not willing to pay. This is the way of liberalism.

Avoiding taxes....
 

On Jul 23, 6:32*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Jul 23, 5:50*pm, jps wrote:



On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:47:11 -0400, wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 12:13:19 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:18:26 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:06:50 -0700, jps wrote:

You think there are more rich Ds than Rs?

Just the ones with power, like Senators and presidents.
I am sure a lot more poor people believe Democrats are helping them
but if you can believe the chart Bob is selling this week, the "middle
class" got screwed as badly in the 90s as they did in the 2000s.

Oh, come on. *Those are the second and third tier sock puppets who do
the bidding of the truly powerful.

They write and pass laws to protect wealth and put systems in place to
ensure that the wealthy aren't disturbed.

My bet is that wealthy Ds are far more likely to accept a raise in
taxes than their Republican counterparts.

It certainly wouldn't be Kerry would it?

Singling out one example is silly and you know it.

Who (in this group especially) wouldn't want to avoid paying excise
tax on a boat purchase if they could do so by mooring the vessel in a
nearby state? *That's a ****load of moorage prepaid.

Being a Democrat doesn't obligate you to run towards paying taxes.

Being *a Republican does obligate you to tilt the tax structure
towards favoring the wealthy.

It is a simple case of hypocrisy, wanting other people to pay taxes he
is not willing to pay. *This is the way of liberalism.

It is just like Gore lecturing on our "carbon footprint" while his is
64X that of the average person.

Avoiding taxes....
 

On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:32:49 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Jul 23, 5:50*pm, jps wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:47:11 -0400, wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 12:13:19 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:18:26 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:06:50 -0700, jps wrote:

You think there are more rich Ds than Rs?

Just the ones with power, like Senators and presidents.
I am sure a lot more poor people believe Democrats are helping them
but if you can believe the chart Bob is selling this week, the "middle
class" got screwed as badly in the 90s as they did in the 2000s.

Oh, come on. *Those are the second and third tier sock puppets who do
the bidding of the truly powerful.

They write and pass laws to protect wealth and put systems in place to
ensure that the wealthy aren't disturbed.

My bet is that wealthy Ds are far more likely to accept a raise in
taxes than their Republican counterparts.

It certainly wouldn't be Kerry would it?

Singling out one example is silly and you know it.

Who (in this group especially) wouldn't want to avoid paying excise
tax on a boat purchase if they could do so by mooring the vessel in a
nearby state? *That's a ****load of moorage prepaid.

Being a Democrat doesn't obligate you to run towards paying taxes.

Being *a Republican does obligate you to tilt the tax structure
towards favoring the wealthy.

It is a simple case of hypocrisy, wanting other people to pay taxes he
is not willing to pay. This is the way of liberalism.

You are so dishonest.

Based on your polar viewpoint, I'd be completely justified in assuming
that the conservative "way" is to not pay anything at all.

If you were stupid, I'd think your assumptions dubious.

Since I know you're not stupid, you are simply dishonest.

Avoiding taxes....
 

On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:35:09 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Jul 23, 6:32*pm, Frogwatch wrote:
On Jul 23, 5:50*pm, jps wrote:



On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:47:11 -0400, wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 12:13:19 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:18:26 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:06:50 -0700, jps wrote:

You think there are more rich Ds than Rs?

Just the ones with power, like Senators and presidents.
I am sure a lot more poor people believe Democrats are helping them
but if you can believe the chart Bob is selling this week, the "middle
class" got screwed as badly in the 90s as they did in the 2000s.

Oh, come on. *Those are the second and third tier sock puppets who do
the bidding of the truly powerful.

They write and pass laws to protect wealth and put systems in place to
ensure that the wealthy aren't disturbed.

My bet is that wealthy Ds are far more likely to accept a raise in
taxes than their Republican counterparts.

It certainly wouldn't be Kerry would it?

Singling out one example is silly and you know it.

Who (in this group especially) wouldn't want to avoid paying excise
tax on a boat purchase if they could do so by mooring the vessel in a
nearby state? *That's a ****load of moorage prepaid.

Being a Democrat doesn't obligate you to run towards paying taxes.

Being *a Republican does obligate you to tilt the tax structure
towards favoring the wealthy.

It is a simple case of hypocrisy, wanting other people to pay taxes he
is not willing to pay. *This is the way of liberalism.

It is just like Gore lecturing on our "carbon footprint" while his is
64X that of the average person.

You are rife with dishonesty. Gore isn't an average person. Is he
any greater or less than a person in similar circumstances?

Relevant analysis wouldn't occur to a dishonest person looking only to
make illusory points. Only the mentally challenged Republican base
would fail to detect the odor of your thinking.

Avoiding taxes....
 

"jps" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:47:11 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 12:13:19 -0700, jps wrote:

On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:18:26 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:06:50 -0700, jps wrote:

You think there are more rich Ds than Rs?

Just the ones with power, like Senators and presidents.
I am sure a lot more poor people believe Democrats are helping them
but if you can believe the chart Bob is selling this week, the "middle
class" got screwed as badly in the 90s as they did in the 2000s.

Oh, come on. Those are the second and third tier sock puppets who do
the bidding of the truly powerful.

They write and pass laws to protect wealth and put systems in place to
ensure that the wealthy aren't disturbed.

My bet is that wealthy Ds are far more likely to accept a raise in
taxes than their Republican counterparts.

It certainly wouldn't be Kerry would it?

Singling out one example is silly and you know it.

Who (in this group especially) wouldn't want to avoid paying excise
tax on a boat purchase if they could do so by mooring the vessel in a
nearby state? That's a ****load of moorage prepaid.

Being a Democrat doesn't obligate you to run towards paying taxes.

Being a Republican does obligate you to tilt the tax structure
towards favoring the wealthy.

Think of all the Po-Folk that could be fed using the taxes that Senator
Kerry D. Massachusetts sleazed out of paying. It's not like he can't afford
it, the greedy *******.

--
Harold

Avoiding taxes....
 

On 23/07/2010 1:06 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:04:58 -0600,
wrote:

On 23/07/2010 9:49 AM, W1TEF wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:40:33 -0600,
wrote:

On 23/07/2010 6:44 AM, W1TEF wrote:
The Kerry Way!!

"Sen. John Kerry, who has repeatedly voted to raise taxes while in
Congress, dodged a whopping six-figure state tax bill on his new
multimillion-dollar yacht by mooring her in Newport, R.I."

http://bostonherald.com/track/inside...icleid=1269698

Gotta love it.

Taxes are for the sheep. That is why Obama/democrats are looking at a
VAT. Gets everyone everywhere. Unless of course you have the money to
shop outside of the US.

Dude - don't you just hate it when the rich stick it to the rest of us
by not paying taxes?

I mean - like - I see it all the time here. :)

DC is corrupt, no argument there. Voting for Obama just made it worse.

yeah. he's black


Said the racist that believe a black can do no wrong.

--

Government has liberals, idealists and lawyers, but where is the common
sense?

Avoiding taxes....
 

On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:32:49 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Jul 23, 5:50*pm, jps wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 15:47:11 -0400, wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 12:13:19 -0700, jps wrote:

It is a simple case of hypocrisy, wanting other people to pay taxes he
is not willing to pay. This is the way of liberalism.


gee the GOPS think the middle class should pay at 28% and the rich at
15

looks like that's the way of right wing ism

Avoiding taxes....
 

On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 17:32:02 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 23/07/2010 1:06 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 10:04:58 -0600,
wrote:

I mean - like - I see it all the time here. :)

DC is corrupt, no argument there. Voting for Obama just made it worse.

yeah. he's black


Said the racist that believe a black can do no wrong.

says the kluxer who thinks obama crucified christ

Avoiding taxes....
 

On Jul 23, 2:05*pm, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:03:47 -0400, "Harold"

wrote:
"W1TEF" wrote in message
.. .
The Kerry Way!!

"Sen. John Kerry, who has repeatedly voted to raise taxes while in
Congress, dodged a whopping six-figure state tax bill on his new
multimillion-dollar yacht by mooring her in Newport, R.I."

http://bostonherald.com/track/inside...icleid=1269698

Gotta love it.

Another democrat dirtbag in congress.

since when is tax avoidance illegal or immoral?

Tax avoidance is never illegal or immoral , as long is it is done by
liberals.

Avoiding taxes....
 

Harold wrote:
"W1TEF" wrote in message
...
The Kerry Way!!

"Sen. John Kerry, who has repeatedly voted to raise taxes while in
Congress, dodged a whopping six-figure state tax bill on his new
multimillion-dollar yacht by mooring her in Newport, R.I."

http://bostonherald.com/track/inside...icleid=1269698

Gotta love it.

Another democrat dirtbag in congress.

It was really disturbing, tonight, to hear Kerry before Congress back
when he was colluding with the North Vietnamese, in Paris, telling we
should admit defeat and get out of Nam.
I wonder how many, of the millions of Viet Nmaese and Cambodians,
Burmese, Laotians etc, that lost their lives, when Congress abandoned
them would agree.
NPR basically was saying we should do the same thing in Afghanistan. The
stakes are slightly different; we face more terrorism, if we don't get
Afghanistan kick started.
I guess their theory is America is evil: why should we win when we can
surrender and go around in sack cloth and ashes before the world,
pleading to be loved.
I waiting for some of our Elected Officials or Congress to let some
third worlders come before them and bitch slap America again.

Avoiding taxes....
 

On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 20:50:31 -0700 (PDT), TopBassDog
wrote:

On Jul 23, 2:05*pm, bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 09:03:47 -0400, "Harold"

wrote:
"W1TEF" wrote in message
.. .
The Kerry Way!!

"Sen. John Kerry, who has repeatedly voted to raise taxes while in
Congress, dodged a whopping six-figure state tax bill on his new
multimillion-dollar yacht by mooring her in Newport, R.I."

http://bostonherald.com/track/inside...icleid=1269698

Gotta love it.

Another democrat dirtbag in congress.

since when is tax avoidance illegal or immoral?

Tax avoidance is never illegal or immoral , as long is it is done by
liberals.

IOW the right wing taxes the middle class and it's immoral to avoid
them

figures

Avoiding taxes....
 

On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:16:34 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 06:01:13 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

Tax avoidance is never illegal or immoral , as long is it is done by
liberals.

IOW the right wing taxes the middle class and it's immoral to avoid
them

figures

Why are you defending this guy? He IS the rich.

i'm not defending him at all. tax avoidance is not immoral. i do it
myself

and he's been supporting taxing the rich and reducing taxes on normal
americans

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On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:48:39 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:31:21 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:16:34 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 06:01:13 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

Tax avoidance is never illegal or immoral , as long is it is done by
liberals.

IOW the right wing taxes the middle class and it's immoral to avoid
them

figures

Why are you defending this guy? He IS the rich.

i'm not defending him at all. tax avoidance is not immoral. i do it
myself

and he's been supporting taxing the rich and reducing taxes on normal
americans

Taxing the rich as long as it isn't him.

gee. why not let the GOP drop its lies about capital gains tax cuts
stimulating the economy and see?

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On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:55:29 -0400, wrote:

..

gee. why not let the GOP drop its lies about capital gains tax cuts
stimulating the economy and see?


I think we have already seen. When Clinton cut the Cap gains rate to
20% the Dow went to $11,000. When Bush cut it to 15% the Dow went to
$14,000.

gee. how'd the dow do over the last 3 years with bush's tax cuts in
place

oh. it tanked.

yeah. that's certainly proof that tax cuts help the economy, isn't it?

Avoiding taxes....
 

On 24/07/2010 1:55 PM, wrote:
On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 12:46:51 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:48:39 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:31:21 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:16:34 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 06:01:13 -0400, wrote:

Tax avoidance is never illegal or immoral , as long is it is done by
liberals.

IOW the right wing taxes the middle class and it's immoral to avoid
them

figures

Why are you defending this guy? He IS the rich.

i'm not defending him at all. tax avoidance is not immoral. i do it
myself

and he's been supporting taxing the rich and reducing taxes on normal
americans

Taxing the rich as long as it isn't him.

gee. why not let the GOP drop its lies about capital gains tax cuts
stimulating the economy and see?


I think we have already seen. When Clinton cut the Cap gains rate to
20% the Dow went to $11,000. When Bush cut it to 15% the Dow went to
$14,000.
You do still have your life savings in the market in a 401k don't you?
That should be important to you.

On the whole average of things, taxing capital gains is really a wealth tax.

If say the market was DOW of 10000, and an auto cost $30k. Now say
inflation in 10+ years makes it DOW at 20000 and cars then cost $60k
have you really increased the purchasing power of the money? The answer
is no, the reality is you have lost money as the 10,000 gain will be
taxed setting you back in purchasing power.

Which is why buy-hold does not work. Given that in 10% of the time a
stock gains 90% of its value, why buy and hold? Just to eat the risk
the executives are cooking the books? Granted, if they pay a decent
dividend but most dividends today are crap.

It may seem counter intuitive, but now might be a good time to pickup
real estate. I say this because the US is headed towards inflation one
way or another. Currency cannot be counted on to maintain value and
gold, well, it already has most of what is going to happen factored in.

I could be wrong, but I don't see a DOW of 12,000 any time soon. High
inflation, depreciating currency, higher taxes equates to people
spending less than they do today. I can sure see why Japans lost decades
occured.
--

Government has liberals, idealists and lawyers, but where is the common
sense?

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On 24/07/2010 2:56 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:55:29 -0400, wrote:

.

gee. why not let the GOP drop its lies about capital gains tax cuts
stimulating the economy and see?


I think we have already seen. When Clinton cut the Cap gains rate to
20% the Dow went to $11,000. When Bush cut it to 15% the Dow went to
$14,000.

gee. how'd the dow do over the last 3 years with bush's tax cuts in
place

oh. it tanked.

yeah. that's certainly proof that tax cuts help the economy, isn't it?

Your so stupid, it is truly amazing.
--

Government has liberals, idealists and lawyers, but where is the common
sense?

Avoiding taxes....
 

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On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:50:30 -0700, jps wrote:

My bet is that wealthy Ds are far more likely to accept a raise in
taxes than their Republican counterparts.

It certainly wouldn't be Kerry would it?

Singling out one example is silly and you know it.



Kerry is an all around hypocrite. He rails on about "carbon" but he
was one of the loudest critics of "Cape Wind". All of that alternate
energy stuff is great as long as it isn't near his house.


Yep. Notice how Kerry is keeping a low profile nationally? Tries to stay
off the radar screen.
Doesn't want to comment on much of anything going on. Plays the party line
when he has to in terms of supporting Obama, but doesn't offer much. He's
watching from the sidelines.
If he determines that Obama is in trouble in 2012, Kerry will be the first
to throw O under the bus and pursue the nomination.

CC

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On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:03:45 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 24/07/2010 2:56 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:55:29 -0400, wrote:

.

gee. why not let the GOP drop its lies about capital gains tax cuts
stimulating the economy and see?


I think we have already seen. When Clinton cut the Cap gains rate to
20% the Dow went to $11,000. When Bush cut it to 15% the Dow went to
$14,000.

gee. how'd the dow do over the last 3 years with bush's tax cuts in
place

oh. it tanked.

yeah. that's certainly proof that tax cuts help the economy, isn't it?

Your so stupid, it is truly amazing.

IOW 'i just got my ass kicked so this is the best i can do'

yeah. go listen to rush. he'll kiss it and make it better

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On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:01:58 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:



On the whole average of things, taxing capital gains is really a wealth tax.

makes sense to me.

It may seem counter intuitive, but now might be a good time to pickup
real estate. I say this because the US is headed towards inflation

gee. greenspan's been preaching that for 30 years. just like he
preached that wall street was honest and not greedy

how'd that work out?

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On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 11:13:47 -0400, wrote:

On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 16:01:47 -0700, jps wrote:

You are rife with dishonesty. Gore isn't an average person. Is he
any greater or less than a person in similar circumstances?

When they compared Gore's house with GWB's house it was apparent who
the real carbon hog was. Gore does live in a castle (now two castles)
but I guess he is a lot richer than Bush ... from selling phony carbon
credits and being a TV evangelist for a cult religion..
That is a business that makes CDO salesmen look like an honorable
profession.

You'd like to base your comparison on means? Then I'm certain he's a
piker when compared to most living on the top end of the means
spectrum. How many houses does McCain have? 5 or 9 or something like
that.

I'd rather base the comparison on that person's industry or lack
thereof. Most of Gore's carbon footprint was due to his travel.

What does GW Bush do that's in the least bit industrious? Speak on a
hack, has been tour for $15 a seat?

Whether you agree with Gore isn't the issue.

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On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 18:11:22 -0400, "Charles C."
wrote:



wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 23 Jul 2010 14:50:30 -0700, jps wrote:

My bet is that wealthy Ds are far more likely to accept a raise in
taxes than their Republican counterparts.

It certainly wouldn't be Kerry would it?

Singling out one example is silly and you know it.



Kerry is an all around hypocrite. He rails on about "carbon" but he
was one of the loudest critics of "Cape Wind". All of that alternate
energy stuff is great as long as it isn't near his house.


Yep. Notice how Kerry is keeping a low profile nationally? Tries to stay
off the radar screen.
Doesn't want to comment on much of anything going on. Plays the party line
when he has to in terms of supporting Obama, but doesn't offer much. He's
watching from the sidelines.
If he determines that Obama is in trouble in 2012, Kerry will be the first
to throw O under the bus and pursue the nomination.

CC

Kerry is done and he knows it. There's not a chance in hell that he'd
try again. You thinking so brings the rest of your analysis into
question.

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Tax avoidance is never illegal or immoral , as long is it is done by
liberals.

No, tax avoidance is never illegal or immoral, as long as it is done by the
BOOK.

ala George Steinbrenner. Someone in the Obama administration has a "not
tonight, honey" headache with all that cash flying out the window, and on
the eve of the invocation of the death tax. Why is it that all these new
decrees seem to have religious rites connotations? But I digress.

Tax avoidance has many names. Loopholes. Deductions. Shelters. LLC's.
Limited partnerships. Corporations. Businesses, and ALL, EVERY ONE OF THEM
available to the common man who has an above room temperature IQ and a
library card!

If I die tomorrow, I don't own much. The $40,000 truck I drive is in the
family trust. All my real estate is in living trusts. My insurance and gas
is mostly paid from business expense accounts, which come off the income
before tax rates are applied. I eat out, always managing to talk about
business, or some shred of it at $75 per person meals. All the office
supplies, cable, computers, etc, is for business purposes. Or at least
plausibly claimed. I don't live rich, but manage to take cruises, leave the
continental US about twice a year, always have at least $100 in my pocket,
and have a piece of plastic in my billfold with a $16k limit on it that's
paid in full every month. I never want anything, and just can't afford it.
Unless it would be a helicopter, and I just don't want one because I
couldn't get a license to drive it because of heart problems. I have no
idea how many businesses I have accounts at.

This idea that tax avoidance is for the rich only is a myth.

Tax avoidance is for the intelligent ONLY. If one is merely too stupid to
go to the library and check out "100 Things You Can Do Legally To Reduce
Your Taxes", then they just get what they get. And if they can't take it
from there, and reduce their tax burden and stay out of debt, then they are
just poor money managers.

Apologies to stupid people.

Steve

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On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 20:02:01 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 16:56:27 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

On Sat, 24 Jul 2010 15:55:29 -0400, wrote:

.

gee. why not let the GOP drop its lies about capital gains tax cuts
stimulating the economy and see?


I think we have already seen. When Clinton cut the Cap gains rate to
20% the Dow went to $11,000. When Bush cut it to 15% the Dow went to
$14,000.

gee. how'd the dow do over the last 3 years with bush's tax cuts in
place

oh. it tanked.

yeah. that's certainly proof that tax cuts help the economy, isn't it?



The Dow was $10,424 Friday and if Obama could actually create some
jobs that weren'r census takers and unemployment clerks it would be
$15,000.

unfortunately private industry in the US is supposed to create jobs.
they're not. after 30 years of starving the middle class, america's
corporations have discovered that people cant spend money they dont
have


Of course that only affects "buy and hold" people. If you had sense
enough to stop l;oss your windfall in 2006-2007 then buy back in after
the crash, you made a lot of money. I posted my 401k numbers the other
day and my fund manager made over 4% per year over the last 3.

aw gee.

too bad you didnt let the other 100m middle class americans know what
a genius you are. after all, we just followed wall street. the right
wing told us that was safe

just like they tell us today