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"TopBassDog" wrote in message
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On Jul 26, 8:24 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 11:03:31 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

and george bush killed 4400 US troops in iraq while spending a
trillion there

how'd that work out?

About the same as Afghanistan, what's your point.?
Obama is still in both places.

And, the troop numbers in Iraq are dropping as per his stated
objective.

I suppose you heard about the Afghan surge? They still have more
people GOING IN.

And, they have an exit strategy. A flexible one, but a stated one. Next
question.

Yes, yes, D'Plume. And exit strategy which is second only to the exit
strategy for Gitmo.

Poor guy. Don't like Obama do you. Too bad!

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On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:53:14 -0400, wrote:

The difference is it will be a Muslim theocracy like Iran
instead of a simple thug like Saddam. We know how to deal with thugs.
We are batting zero with ayatollahs.

The most likely scenario for Iraq after we leave is a major civil war
between the various Muslim factions. The one good thing about Saddam
was that he knew how to keep a lid on that.

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On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:00:28 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

and afganistan? guess you havent heard of 9/11.


Yeah I heard of it. I also heard the people who planned it have not
been in Afghanistan for 6 years.

hmmm...again you need to read the news.

the taliban just abducted 2 US servicemen the other day

The Taliban had nothing to do with 9-11. They are simply reacting to
our invasion of their country.

Not directly, but they were certainly allowing bin laden to do whatever he
wanted inside the Afg. border.


When people actually start reading "Pentagon papers II" this war will
go the way of Vietnam.
Our government knows we are not winning. They just won't tell us and
keep spinning the yarn that "a few thousand more men will do it".
We are just driving this problem into Pakistan, a whole lot more
frightening scenario than Afghanistan,

As for Iraq, the same thing is going to happen there was would have
happened if we came home the day Saddam died, or in 1991 for that
matter. The strongest dictator will take over and they will still hate
the US. The difference is it will be a Muslim theocracy like Iran
instead of a simple thug like Saddam. We know how to deal with thugs.
We are batting zero with ayatollahs.

According to you. You don't know this at all.

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On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:16:13 -0400, wrote:

It makes me wonder, what would happen to the world if the US was not
the planet's policeman. Would things for us be better or worse?

Good question. You could make the argument that it's better to put
out small fires before they grow into big ones. I think you could
also make the argument however that we were better off, at least in
the short run, when Iran and Iraq kept busy fighting each other.

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"Wayne.B" wrote in message
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On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 12:16:13 -0400, wrote:

It makes me wonder, what would happen to the world if the US was not
the planet's policeman. Would things for us be better or worse?

Good question. You could make the argument that it's better to put
out small fires before they grow into big ones. I think you could
also make the argument however that we were better off, at least in
the short run, when Iran and Iraq kept busy fighting each other.


I think we either need to embrace the roll of international policeman or be
very, very careful about getting involved. I don't think we can call fall
back to an isolationist position, as there are just too many things that
could adversely affect us, and we should be willing to be proactive when
necessary, but are leaders need to think things through before they act.

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On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:53:14 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:00:28 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

and afganistan? guess you havent heard of 9/11.


Yeah I heard of it. I also heard the people who planned it have not
been in Afghanistan for 6 years.

hmmm...again you need to read the news.

the taliban just abducted 2 US servicemen the other day

The Taliban had nothing to do with 9-11. They are simply reacting to
our invasion of their country.

well, i always said the right was full of bull****

this proves it

the taliban had control of kabul on 9/11. osama bin laden was living
in a taliban controlled area and had daily contact with the taliban on
9/11

you were saying?


When people actually start reading "Pentagon papers II" this war will
go the way of Vietnam.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

can't help it you're stupid, dude. you did that to yourself



As for Iraq, the same thing is going to happen there was would have
happened if we came home the day Saddam died, or in 1991 for that
matter. The strongest dictator will take over and they will still hate
the US. The difference is it will be a Muslim theocracy like Iran
instead of a simple thug like Saddam. We know how to deal with thugs.
We are batting zero with ayatollahs.


the difference is there was no reason to go to iraq even though the
right wing wanted it.

there was, and is, a reason to be in afghanistan. but you're a fascist
sympathizer so cant stand to watch a fascist insurgence held at bay

and you're a liar.

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On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 11:34:30 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:53:14 -0400, wrote:

The difference is it will be a Muslim theocracy like Iran
instead of a simple thug like Saddam. We know how to deal with thugs.
We are batting zero with ayatollahs.

The most likely scenario for Iraq after we leave is a major civil war
between the various Muslim factions. The one good thing about Saddam
was that he knew how to keep a lid on that.

muslims like to kill each other. it's part of the religion

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On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:55:45 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:02:31 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:



Not directly, but they were certainly allowing bin laden to do whatever he
wanted inside the Afg. border.


That was then, this is now and OBL is not in Afghanistan.

any reason to believe the taliban wouldnt allow AQ to resume their
acxtivities?

i mean, other than you and your boys sitting around a campfire singing
'kumbyah'??

We have
managed to push that problem into a country that is a lot more
dangerous than Afghanistan and almost as unstable, getting worse every
day.

now let's see...so we just sit back and watch fascists overseas attack
the US while your wall street buddies attack the middle class...

gee. why didn't you tell us neville chamberlain was here?

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On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:58:08 -0400, wrote:

As long as we are doing this we can't complain too much about spending
3/4ths of a trillion every year on DoD.

I just wonder if there is not a better use for the money.

Of course there is: Subsidized diesel fuel for trawler owners. :-)

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On 7/27/10 7:29 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:58:08 -0400, wrote:

As long as we are doing this we can't complain too much about spending
3/4ths of a trillion every year on DoD.

I just wonder if there is not a better use for the money.

Of course there is: Subsidized diesel fuel for trawler owners. :-)


Why don't you hire a couple of impoverished out-of-work Gulf guys to
sponge up some oil for you...if they were illegals, you could pay them
$2.00 an hour and feel good about it, in your own smug, self-satisfied
Republican way.

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On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:02:31 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


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On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:00:28 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

and afganistan? guess you havent heard of 9/11.


Yeah I heard of it. I also heard the people who planned it have not
been in Afghanistan for 6 years.

hmmm...again you need to read the news.

the taliban just abducted 2 US servicemen the other day

The Taliban had nothing to do with 9-11. They are simply reacting to
our invasion of their country.

Not directly, but they were certainly allowing bin laden to do whatever he
wanted inside the Afg. border.


That was then, this is now and OBL is not in Afghanistan. We have
managed to push that problem into a country that is a lot more
dangerous than Afghanistan and almost as unstable, getting worse every
day.


Then or now, it doesn't matter. If we can stabilize Afg., then we have a
better chance of finishing him.

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Harry  wrote:
On 7/26/10 8:50 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 12:40:05 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Bummer about the facts isn't it...

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2010/...reation-in-1q/



Yeah buddy they expect a whopping 0.4% drop in unemployment this year.

Well, is that better than an increase? Seems to me lower is better.


OK well at that rate we will get back to the 2007 unemployment rate in
2023




And your solution is?
A new President, Congress, and House. Coming soon to a country near you!

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TopBassDog wrote:
On Jul 26, 8:24 pm, wrote:

wrote in message

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On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 11:03:31 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


and george bush killed 4400 US troops in iraq while spending a
trillion there


how'd that work out?


About the same as Afghanistan, what's your point.?
Obama is still in both places.


And, the troop numbers in Iraq are dropping as per his stated objective..


I suppose you heard about the Afghan surge? They still have more
people GOING IN.

And, they have an exit strategy. A flexible one, but a stated one. Next
question.

Yes, yes, D'Plume. And exit strategy which is second only to the exit
strategy for Gitmo.

You are debating with a hot headed bitch. Stop and she will STFU!

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On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 18:20:33 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:29:00 -0400, bpuharic wrote:


well, i always said the right was full of bull****

this proves it

Atta was living in Germany too. Does that mean the Germans helped him
plan the attack?

let me know when they take you out of your rubber room

now let me see. your argument is that the taliban knew NOTHING about
al qaida??

or are you playing an asshole and trying to draw some equivalence
between bin laden's residencey in afghanistan, and atta's passage
through germany?

because if THAT'S your argument, you're a WHOLE lot dumber than even I
thought you had the capability to be.


the taliban had control of kabul on 9/11. osama bin laden was living
in a taliban controlled area and had daily contact with the taliban on
9/11


Daily contact? You know this how? Nobody has ever implicated anyone in
the Taliban in 9/11 except that they let OBL live there/

now let's see...who bankrolled the taliban?

uh. bin laden

who refused to turn bin laden over to the US?

the taliban.

so now you're defending the nazi movement known as al qaida

i KNEW you were right wing. i DIDNT know you were a nazi. i almost
NEVER accuse anyone of being a nazi; godwin's law is too easy to
violate

but you? you're a nazi. yep. you're a nazi.




When people actually start reading "Pentagon papers II" this war will
go the way of Vietnam.

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

can't help it you're stupid, dude. you did that to yourself


We will see won;t we

hey genius.

what particular aspect of these documents comes as news to you?

because NO ONE is surprised by ANYTHING in those documents.

except for you and your nazi sympathies.



the difference is there was no reason to go to iraq even though the
right wing wanted it.


I never wanted it, don't lump me in with people who want war in ther
middle east.

you want war in the middel east. you just want it to be successful
against the US

you're probably the most anti-american guy on the newsgroup

there was, and is, a reason to be in afghanistan. but you're a fascist
sympathizer so cant stand to watch a fascist insurgence held at bay

and you're a liar.

Why is that? What have I lied about?

gee. read your entire post. goebbels would be proud.


You really weaken your arguments with personal attacks. It just
demonstrates you have nothing of substance to say.

other than i proved you're a nazi?

go figure

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"Harry ?" wrote in message
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On 7/27/10 7:29 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:58:08 -0400, wrote:

As long as we are doing this we can't complain too much about spending
3/4ths of a trillion every year on DoD.

I just wonder if there is not a better use for the money.

Of course there is: Subsidized diesel fuel for trawler owners. :-)


Why don't you hire a couple of impoverished out-of-work Gulf guys to
sponge up some oil for you...if they were illegals, you could pay them
$2.00 an hour and feel good about it, in your own smug, self-satisfied
Republican way.


Now that you and your tribe have put this place in the ****ter, there is
nothing left to do but have a little fun with you.Enjoy the forthcoming.

--
Harold

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On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:38:28 -0400, "Harold"
wrote:

"Harry ?" wrote in message
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On 7/27/10 7:29 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:58:08 -0400, wrote:

As long as we are doing this we can't complain too much about spending
3/4ths of a trillion every year on DoD.

I just wonder if there is not a better use for the money.

Of course there is: Subsidized diesel fuel for trawler owners. :-)


Why don't you hire a couple of impoverished out-of-work Gulf guys to
sponge up some oil for you...if they were illegals, you could pay them
$2.00 an hour and feel good about it, in your own smug, self-satisfied
Republican way.


Now that you and your tribe have put this place in the ****ter, there is
nothing left to do but have a little fun with you.Enjoy the forthcoming.

what's funny is, i'm a relative newcomer to this newsgroup. i was
surprised when the right wing guppies, who think they're sharks,
started after obama.

it's fun treating them like kittens. you dangle the truth in front of
them, and they get all hyper....

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"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:38:28 -0400, "Harold"
wrote:

"Harry ?" wrote in message
news:0Y6dnWYxw84_8tLRnZ2dnUVZ_g2dnZ2d@earthlink. com...
On 7/27/10 7:29 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:58:08 -0400, wrote:

As long as we are doing this we can't complain too much about spending
3/4ths of a trillion every year on DoD.

I just wonder if there is not a better use for the money.

Of course there is: Subsidized diesel fuel for trawler owners. :-)


Why don't you hire a couple of impoverished out-of-work Gulf guys to
sponge up some oil for you...if they were illegals, you could pay them
$2.00 an hour and feel good about it, in your own smug, self-satisfied
Republican way.


Now that you and your tribe have put this place in the ****ter, there is
nothing left to do but have a little fun with you.Enjoy the forthcoming.

what's funny is, i'm a relative newcomer to this newsgroup. i was
surprised when the right wing guppies, who think they're sharks,
started after obama.

it's fun treating them like kittens. you dangle the truth in front of
them, and they get all hyper....

Purrrr....

--
Harold

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"Larry" wrote in message
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TopBassDog wrote:
On Jul 26, 8:24 pm, wrote:

wrote in message

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On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 11:03:31 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


and george bush killed 4400 US troops in iraq while spending a
trillion there


how'd that work out?


About the same as Afghanistan, what's your point.?
Obama is still in both places.


And, the troop numbers in Iraq are dropping as per his stated
objective..


I suppose you heard about the Afghan surge? They still have more
people GOING IN.

And, they have an exit strategy. A flexible one, but a stated one. Next
question.

Yes, yes, D'Plume. And exit strategy which is second only to the exit
strategy for Gitmo.

You are debating with a hot headed bitch. Stop and she will STFU!


I doubt that.

--
Harold

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"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:38:28 -0400, "Harold"
wrote:

"Harry ?" wrote in message
news:0Y6dnWYxw84_8tLRnZ2dnUVZ_g2dnZ2d@earthlink. com...
On 7/27/10 7:29 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:58:08 -0400, wrote:

As long as we are doing this we can't complain too much about spending
3/4ths of a trillion every year on DoD.

I just wonder if there is not a better use for the money.

Of course there is: Subsidized diesel fuel for trawler owners. :-)


Why don't you hire a couple of impoverished out-of-work Gulf guys to
sponge up some oil for you...if they were illegals, you could pay them
$2.00 an hour and feel good about it, in your own smug, self-satisfied
Republican way.


Now that you and your tribe have put this place in the ****ter, there is
nothing left to do but have a little fun with you.Enjoy the forthcoming.

what's funny is, i'm a relative newcomer to this newsgroup. i was
surprised when the right wing guppies, who think they're sharks,
started after obama.

it's fun treating them like kittens. you dangle the truth in front of
them, and they get all hyper....

And who is the poster child for hyper?

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On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:50:12 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
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what's funny is, i'm a relative newcomer to this newsgroup. i was
surprised when the right wing guppies, who think they're sharks,
started after obama.

it's fun treating them like kittens. you dangle the truth in front of
them, and they get all hyper....

And who is the poster child for hyper?

at this point it's 'gfretwell' with his nazi sympathies for al qaida

he honestly hates america. the rest of you guys love america...you're
seriously ****ed up, but i wouldnt question your patriotism

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On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:54:13 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


wrote in message
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On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:02:31 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


wrote in message
m...
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:00:28 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

and afganistan? guess you havent heard of 9/11.


Yeah I heard of it. I also heard the people who planned it have not
been in Afghanistan for 6 years.

hmmm...again you need to read the news.

the taliban just abducted 2 US servicemen the other day

The Taliban had nothing to do with 9-11. They are simply reacting to
our invasion of their country.

Not directly, but they were certainly allowing bin laden to do whatever
he
wanted inside the Afg. border.


That was then, this is now and OBL is not in Afghanistan. We have
managed to push that problem into a country that is a lot more
dangerous than Afghanistan and almost as unstable, getting worse every
day.


Then or now, it doesn't matter. If we can stabilize Afg., then we have a
better chance of finishing him.

We could absolutely dominate Afghanistan and that still does not give
us the right to invade Pakistan to get OBL ... unless you think that
is our next step.

Why does Cambodia seem to be coming up in my mind?

OBL might not even be the biggest danger to the US these days. It
could be another group in Africa or Indonesia and we are totally
ignoring them in our obsession with OBL.
I had a dog like that once. He saw a rabbit under the macadamia nut
tree once and after that he had to go look there every time he went
outside. There were rabbits everywhere but he kept trying to find that
one.
We always fight the last war and try to prevent the last attack
instead of looking for the next one.


Our biggest enemies aren't in the middle east.

--
Harold

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On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:55:05 -0400, wrote:



Why does Cambodia seem to be coming up in my mind?

let's see...when did cambodia attack us?

uh...never

when did afghanistan attack us?

since i was in NY with the USCG after the attacks i personally can
answer THAT question


We always fight the last war and try to prevent the last attack
instead of looking for the next one.

this guy says

1. afghanistan is like vietnam

2. complains we are fighting the last war

i think he's a victim of his own hype

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On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:08:19 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:08:02 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

what particular aspect of these documents comes as news to you?

because NO ONE is surprised by ANYTHING in those documents.

Most of these documents have not even be read and analysed yet but it
certainly seems to be making the government nervous.
I am sure the government knows we are bankrolling the Taliban with our
payments to the corrupt governments over there but the public didn't
really see it in government documents until now.

ROFLMAO!!

this is OLD news. hell, it's common knowledge the ISI is corrupt and a
branch office of the taliban.

were you REALLY that ignorant?

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On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:08:19 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:08:02 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

what particular aspect of these documents comes as news to you?

because NO ONE is surprised by ANYTHING in those documents.

Most of these documents have not even be read and analysed yet but it
certainly seems to be making the government nervous.

incidentally you might want to read this:


http://www.cnn.com/2010/OPINION/07/2...ex.html?hpt=T1

CNN: What do you make of the disclosures in the WikiLeaks documents?

Fareed Zakaria: I think the reaction has been vastly overdone. Frankly
I think it was overdone by the three newspapers that published them
and then by the rest of the media. This has been compared by almost
everybody involved to the Pentagon Papers. They are in fact nothing
like that.

CNN: How were the Pentagon Papers different?

Zakaria: The Pentagon Papers was a secret report commissioned by the
highest levels of government to assess how the war was going in
Vietnam. What it revealed was that the government, at the very highest
level, had been deceiving itself and the American people about the
progress of the war, and that the war was in fact going much, much
worse than the public had been led to believe.

What the war logs show is nothing like that at all. They provide a lot
of granular detail about the complexities of fighting a
counterinsurgency war.
----------------

which is pretty much what i said....

as opposed to your hysteria in comparing these to the pentagon papers

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"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:50:12 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
. ..


what's funny is, i'm a relative newcomer to this newsgroup. i was
surprised when the right wing guppies, who think they're sharks,
started after obama.

it's fun treating them like kittens. you dangle the truth in front of
them, and they get all hyper....

And who is the poster child for hyper?

at this point it's 'gfretwell' with his nazi sympathies for al qaida

he honestly hates america. the rest of you guys love america...you're
seriously ****ed up, but i wouldnt question your patriotism



You don't have a clue.

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On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:40:40 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:50:12 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
...


what's funny is, i'm a relative newcomer to this newsgroup. i was
surprised when the right wing guppies, who think they're sharks,
started after obama.

it's fun treating them like kittens. you dangle the truth in front of
them, and they get all hyper....

And who is the poster child for hyper?

at this point it's 'gfretwell' with his nazi sympathies for al qaida

he honestly hates america. the rest of you guys love america...you're
seriously ****ed up, but i wouldnt question your patriotism



You don't have a clue.

chuckle clue?

hell you guys don't even know what a detective is...

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"Larry" wrote in message
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TopBassDog wrote:
On Jul 26, 8:24 pm, wrote:

wrote in message

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On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 11:03:31 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


and george bush killed 4400 US troops in iraq while spending a
trillion there


how'd that work out?


About the same as Afghanistan, what's your point.?
Obama is still in both places.


And, the troop numbers in Iraq are dropping as per his stated
objective..


I suppose you heard about the Afghan surge? They still have more
people GOING IN.

And, they have an exit strategy. A flexible one, but a stated one. Next
question.

Yes, yes, D'Plume. And exit strategy which is second only to the exit
strategy for Gitmo.

You are debating with a hot headed bitch. Stop and she will STFU!

You and Dogman are morons.

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On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:54:13 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


wrote in message
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On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:02:31 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


wrote in message
m...
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:00:28 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

and afganistan? guess you havent heard of 9/11.


Yeah I heard of it. I also heard the people who planned it have not
been in Afghanistan for 6 years.

hmmm...again you need to read the news.

the taliban just abducted 2 US servicemen the other day

The Taliban had nothing to do with 9-11. They are simply reacting to
our invasion of their country.

Not directly, but they were certainly allowing bin laden to do whatever
he
wanted inside the Afg. border.


That was then, this is now and OBL is not in Afghanistan. We have
managed to push that problem into a country that is a lot more
dangerous than Afghanistan and almost as unstable, getting worse every
day.


Then or now, it doesn't matter. If we can stabilize Afg., then we have a
better chance of finishing him.

We could absolutely dominate Afghanistan and that still does not give
us the right to invade Pakistan to get OBL ... unless you think that
is our next step.

We've got the drones going last I checked.

Why does Cambodia seem to be coming up in my mind?

OBL might not even be the biggest danger to the US these days. It
could be another group in Africa or Indonesia and we are totally
ignoring them in our obsession with OBL.
I had a dog like that once. He saw a rabbit under the macadamia nut
tree once and after that he had to go look there every time he went
outside. There were rabbits everywhere but he kept trying to find that
one.
We always fight the last war and try to prevent the last attack
instead of looking for the next one.

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"Larry" wrote in message
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Harry  wrote:
On 7/26/10 8:50 PM, wrote:
On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 12:40:05 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

Bummer about the facts isn't it...

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2010/...reation-in-1q/


Yeah buddy they expect a whopping 0.4% drop in unemployment this year.

Well, is that better than an increase? Seems to me lower is better.


OK well at that rate we will get back to the 2007 unemployment rate in
2023




And your solution is?
A new President, Congress, and House. Coming soon to a country near you!

Well, we shall see .. until then feel free to keep hating Obama, Reid, and
Pelosi... for the good of the country of course.

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On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:00:43 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:55:05 -0400, wrote:



Why does Cambodia seem to be coming up in my mind?

let's see...when did cambodia attack us?

uh...never


You really are ignorant of history aren't you. We attacked Cambodia
covertly because we said they were harboring the VC, just like
Pakistan harbors OBL.
The whole thing unraveled after the Pentagon Papers exposed this all
and it became clear that instead of trying to wind down an unpopular
war, as promised by the new president, we were expanding it.
I expect this and subsequent "leaks" to bring the same anti-war
sentiment out this time.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vHjWDCX1Bdw



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On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 23:06:42 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:00:43 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:55:05 -0400, wrote:



Why does Cambodia seem to be coming up in my mind?

let's see...when did cambodia attack us?

uh...never


You really are ignorant of history aren't you. We attacked Cambodia
covertly because we said they were harboring the VC, just like
Pakistan harbors OBL.

really? the cambodians flew planes into NYC?

wow. that's something NO ONE knew!!

The whole thing unraveled after the Pentagon Papers exposed this all
and it became clear that instead of trying to wind down an unpopular
war, as promised by the new president, we were expanding it.
I expect this and subsequent "leaks" to bring the same anti-war
sentiment out this time.

now let's see....the current 'leaks' have told us nothing new at all

except to you. of course, one has to make allowances for right wing
ignorance

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On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 23:14:49 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:13:22 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:08:19 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:08:02 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

what particular aspect of these documents comes as news to you?

because NO ONE is surprised by ANYTHING in those documents.

Most of these documents have not even be read and analysed yet but it
certainly seems to be making the government nervous.
I am sure the government knows we are bankrolling the Taliban with our
payments to the corrupt governments over there but the public didn't
really see it in government documents until now.

ROFLMAO!!

this is OLD news. hell, it's common knowledge the ISI is corrupt and a
branch office of the taliban.


Yet we still keep shoveling money into that corruption and killing our
kids.

guess you haven't been to NY.

they killed alot of people in NY on 9/11. how are things at the
nevill chamberlain fan club?

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On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 23:06:42 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:00:43 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 21:55:05 -0400, wrote:



Why does Cambodia seem to be coming up in my mind?

let's see...when did cambodia attack us?

uh...never


You really are ignorant of history aren't you. We attacked Cambodia
covertly because we said they were harboring the VC, just like
Pakistan harbors OBL.

really? the cambodians flew planes into NYC?

wow. that's something NO ONE knew!!

The whole thing unraveled after the Pentagon Papers exposed this all
and it became clear that instead of trying to wind down an unpopular
war, as promised by the new president, we were expanding it.
I expect this and subsequent "leaks" to bring the same anti-war
sentiment out this time.

now let's see....the current 'leaks' have told us nothing new at all

except to you. of course, one has to make allowances for right wing
ignorance





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On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:00:28 -0400, bpuharic
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and afganistan? guess you havent heard of 9/11.


Yeah I heard of it. I also heard the people who planned it have not
been in Afghanistan for 6 years.

hmmm...again you need to read the news.

the taliban just abducted 2 US servicemen the other day

The Taliban had nothing to do with 9-11. They are simply reacting to
our invasion of their country.

Not directly, but they were certainly allowing bin laden to do whatever
he
wanted inside the Afg. border.


That was then, this is now and OBL is not in Afghanistan. We have
managed to push that problem into a country that is a lot more
dangerous than Afghanistan and almost as unstable, getting worse every
day.


Then or now, it doesn't matter. If we can stabilize Afg., then we have a
better chance of finishing him.

We could absolutely dominate Afghanistan and that still does not give
us the right to invade Pakistan to get OBL ... unless you think that
is our next step.

Why does Cambodia seem to be coming up in my mind?

OBL might not even be the biggest danger to the US these days. It
could be another group in Africa or Indonesia and we are totally
ignoring them in our obsession with OBL.
I had a dog like that once. He saw a rabbit under the macadamia nut
tree once and after that he had to go look there every time he went
outside. There were rabbits everywhere but he kept trying to find that
one.
We always fight the last war and try to prevent the last attack
instead of looking for the next one.


Our biggest enemies aren't in the middle east.

--
Harold

Finally said something right... they work on Wall Street.

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On 7/28/10 9:35 AM, YukonBound wrote:


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On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:54:13 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:02:31 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:00:28 -0400, bpuharic
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and afganistan? guess you havent heard of 9/11.


Yeah I heard of it. I also heard the people who planned it have
not
been in Afghanistan for 6 years.

hmmm...again you need to read the news.

the taliban just abducted 2 US servicemen the other day

The Taliban had nothing to do with 9-11. They are simply reacting to
our invasion of their country.

Not directly, but they were certainly allowing bin laden to do
whatever he
wanted inside the Afg. border.


That was then, this is now and OBL is not in Afghanistan. We have
managed to push that problem into a country that is a lot more
dangerous than Afghanistan and almost as unstable, getting worse every
day.


Then or now, it doesn't matter. If we can stabilize Afg., then we
have a
better chance of finishing him.

We could absolutely dominate Afghanistan and that still does not give
us the right to invade Pakistan to get OBL ... unless you think that
is our next step.

Why does Cambodia seem to be coming up in my mind?

OBL might not even be the biggest danger to the US these days. It
could be another group in Africa or Indonesia and we are totally
ignoring them in our obsession with OBL.
I had a dog like that once. He saw a rabbit under the macadamia nut
tree once and after that he had to go look there every time he went
outside. There were rabbits everywhere but he kept trying to find that
one.
We always fight the last war and try to prevent the last attack
instead of looking for the next one.


Our biggest enemies aren't in the middle east.

--
Harold

Finally said something right... they work on Wall Street.


Flajim is now openly spoofing my ID here?

What an ass he is.

Avoiding taxes....
 

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On 7/28/10 9:35 AM, YukonBound wrote:


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On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:54:13 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:02:31 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:00:28 -0400, bpuharic
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and afganistan? guess you havent heard of 9/11.


Yeah I heard of it. I also heard the people who planned it have
not
been in Afghanistan for 6 years.

hmmm...again you need to read the news.

the taliban just abducted 2 US servicemen the other day

The Taliban had nothing to do with 9-11. They are simply reacting
to
our invasion of their country.

Not directly, but they were certainly allowing bin laden to do
whatever he
wanted inside the Afg. border.


That was then, this is now and OBL is not in Afghanistan. We have
managed to push that problem into a country that is a lot more
dangerous than Afghanistan and almost as unstable, getting worse
every
day.


Then or now, it doesn't matter. If we can stabilize Afg., then we
have a
better chance of finishing him.

We could absolutely dominate Afghanistan and that still does not give
us the right to invade Pakistan to get OBL ... unless you think that
is our next step.

Why does Cambodia seem to be coming up in my mind?

OBL might not even be the biggest danger to the US these days. It
could be another group in Africa or Indonesia and we are totally
ignoring them in our obsession with OBL.
I had a dog like that once. He saw a rabbit under the macadamia nut
tree once and after that he had to go look there every time he went
outside. There were rabbits everywhere but he kept trying to find that
one.
We always fight the last war and try to prevent the last attack
instead of looking for the next one.


Our biggest enemies aren't in the middle east.

--
Harold

Finally said something right... they work on Wall Street.


Flajim is now openly spoofing my ID here?

What an ass he is.


Leopard doesn't change it's spots!

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On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 10:02:31 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:00:28 -0400, bpuharic
wrote:

and afganistan? guess you havent heard of 9/11.


Yeah I heard of it. I also heard the people who planned it have
not
been in Afghanistan for 6 years.

hmmm...again you need to read the news.

the taliban just abducted 2 US servicemen the other day

The Taliban had nothing to do with 9-11. They are simply reacting
to
our invasion of their country.

Not directly, but they were certainly allowing bin laden to do
whatever he
wanted inside the Afg. border.


That was then, this is now and OBL is not in Afghanistan. We have
managed to push that problem into a country that is a lot more
dangerous than Afghanistan and almost as unstable, getting worse
every
day.


Then or now, it doesn't matter. If we can stabilize Afg., then we
have a
better chance of finishing him.

We could absolutely dominate Afghanistan and that still does not give
us the right to invade Pakistan to get OBL ... unless you think that
is our next step.

Why does Cambodia seem to be coming up in my mind?

OBL might not even be the biggest danger to the US these days. It
could be another group in Africa or Indonesia and we are totally
ignoring them in our obsession with OBL.
I had a dog like that once. He saw a rabbit under the macadamia nut
tree once and after that he had to go look there every time he went
outside. There were rabbits everywhere but he kept trying to find that
one.
We always fight the last war and try to prevent the last attack
instead of looking for the next one.


Our biggest enemies aren't in the middle east.

--
Harold

Finally said something right... they work on Wall Street.


Flajim is now openly spoofing my ID here?

What an ass he is.


Leopard doesn't change it's spots!

ahd presheate et ifun ya wodunt stick yer nosz so fur up me arse.

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On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:00:28 -0400, bpuharic
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and afganistan? guess you havent heard of 9/11.


Yeah I heard of it. I also heard the people who planned it have
not
been in Afghanistan for 6 years.

hmmm...again you need to read the news.

the taliban just abducted 2 US servicemen the other day

The Taliban had nothing to do with 9-11. They are simply reacting
to
our invasion of their country.

Not directly, but they were certainly allowing bin laden to do
whatever he
wanted inside the Afg. border.


That was then, this is now and OBL is not in Afghanistan. We have
managed to push that problem into a country that is a lot more
dangerous than Afghanistan and almost as unstable, getting worse
every
day.


Then or now, it doesn't matter. If we can stabilize Afg., then we
have a
better chance of finishing him.

We could absolutely dominate Afghanistan and that still does not give
us the right to invade Pakistan to get OBL ... unless you think that
is our next step.

Why does Cambodia seem to be coming up in my mind?

OBL might not even be the biggest danger to the US these days. It
could be another group in Africa or Indonesia and we are totally
ignoring them in our obsession with OBL.
I had a dog like that once. He saw a rabbit under the macadamia nut
tree once and after that he had to go look there every time he went
outside. There were rabbits everywhere but he kept trying to find that
one.
We always fight the last war and try to prevent the last attack
instead of looking for the next one.


Our biggest enemies aren't in the middle east.

--
Harold

Finally said something right... they work on Wall Street.


Flajim is now openly spoofing my ID here?

What an ass he is.


He's been outed already. No flies on you eh?

--
Me

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On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:00:28 -0400, bpuharic
wrote:

and afganistan? guess you havent heard of 9/11.


Yeah I heard of it. I also heard the people who planned it have not
been in Afghanistan for 6 years.

hmmm...again you need to read the news.

the taliban just abducted 2 US servicemen the other day

The Taliban had nothing to do with 9-11. They are simply reacting to
our invasion of their country.

Not directly, but they were certainly allowing bin laden to do
whatever he
wanted inside the Afg. border.


That was then, this is now and OBL is not in Afghanistan. We have
managed to push that problem into a country that is a lot more
dangerous than Afghanistan and almost as unstable, getting worse every
day.


Then or now, it doesn't matter. If we can stabilize Afg., then we have a
better chance of finishing him.

We could absolutely dominate Afghanistan and that still does not give
us the right to invade Pakistan to get OBL ... unless you think that
is our next step.

Why does Cambodia seem to be coming up in my mind?

OBL might not even be the biggest danger to the US these days. It
could be another group in Africa or Indonesia and we are totally
ignoring them in our obsession with OBL.
I had a dog like that once. He saw a rabbit under the macadamia nut
tree once and after that he had to go look there every time he went
outside. There were rabbits everywhere but he kept trying to find that
one.
We always fight the last war and try to prevent the last attack
instead of looking for the next one.


Our biggest enemies aren't in the middle east.

--
Harold

Finally said something right... they work on Wall Street.

Some of them, but you'll find the majority in D.C. and illegally entering
our country.

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On 7/28/10 9:35 AM, YukonBound wrote:


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On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 16:54:13 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:00:28 -0400, bpuharic
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and afganistan? guess you havent heard of 9/11.


Yeah I heard of it. I also heard the people who planned it have
not
been in Afghanistan for 6 years.

hmmm...again you need to read the news.

the taliban just abducted 2 US servicemen the other day

The Taliban had nothing to do with 9-11. They are simply reacting to
our invasion of their country.

Not directly, but they were certainly allowing bin laden to do
whatever he
wanted inside the Afg. border.


That was then, this is now and OBL is not in Afghanistan. We have
managed to push that problem into a country that is a lot more
dangerous than Afghanistan and almost as unstable, getting worse every
day.


Then or now, it doesn't matter. If we can stabilize Afg., then we
have a
better chance of finishing him.

We could absolutely dominate Afghanistan and that still does not give
us the right to invade Pakistan to get OBL ... unless you think that
is our next step.

Why does Cambodia seem to be coming up in my mind?

OBL might not even be the biggest danger to the US these days. It
could be another group in Africa or Indonesia and we are totally
ignoring them in our obsession with OBL.
I had a dog like that once. He saw a rabbit under the macadamia nut
tree once and after that he had to go look there every time he went
outside. There were rabbits everywhere but he kept trying to find that
one.
We always fight the last war and try to prevent the last attack
instead of looking for the next one.


Our biggest enemies aren't in the middle east.

--
Harold

Finally said something right... they work on Wall Street.


Flajim is now openly spoofing my ID here?

What an ass he is.

Spoofer alert! I'm much too refined and cultured to call people silly
names.