On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:00:59 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:30:45 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 05:36:12 -0500, Jim wrote:

bpuharic wrote:


ah. so 100,000,000 americans are named 'bpuharic' since we all lost
our shirts


I'm still curious about the "100,000,000 middle class."
Can you pick that group from here?

http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesam...er/wealth.html

Can't seem to break any of the charts down to get 100,000,000
in a group. But I didn't try too hard.
Seems the groups here are 1, 19, and 80 percent.

let's see....there are 115,000,000 working americans. about 80% make
less than 100K.

looks good to me.

Most of those people are not "middle class". Half of them don't even
make enough money to pay income tax.

ah yes, the right wing mantra...they dont pay 'income' taxes....so
they're worthless

guess what, sport. the wealthy dont pay taxes AND they dont work. they
get govt socialism to pay for their wasted spending of $6000 umbrella
stands while the middle class pays taxes...sales taxes, FICA taxes,
state tax, etc.

so your rich buddies are the real criminals. not th emiddle class

By the definition of middle class established here ($125K - $250K) it
is more like several million.

nobody who makes 250K is middle class.

bpuharic wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:00:59 -0400, wrote:


On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 17:30:45 -0400, wrote:


On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 05:36:12 -0500, wrote:


bpuharic wrote:


ah. so 100,000,000 americans are named 'bpuharic' since we all lost
our shirts


I'm still curious about the "100,000,000 middle class."
Can you pick that group from here?

http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesam...er/wealth.html

Can't seem to break any of the charts down to get 100,000,000
in a group. But I didn't try too hard.
Seems the groups here are 1, 19, and 80 percent.

let's see....there are 115,000,000 working americans. about 80% make
less than 100K.

looks good to me.

Most of those people are not "middle class". Half of them don't even
make enough money to pay income tax.

ah yes, the right wing mantra...they dont pay 'income' taxes....so
they're worthless

guess what, sport. the wealthy dont pay taxes AND they dont work. they
get govt socialism to pay for their wasted spending of $6000 umbrella
stands while the middle class pays taxes...sales taxes, FICA taxes,
state tax, etc.

so your rich buddies are the real criminals. not th emiddle class


By the definition of middle class established here ($125K - $250K) it
is more like several million.

nobody who makes 250K is middle class.


Your situation and paranoia will lead you to an early grave if you don't
relax. Try turning your computer off for a week, or two.

On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:26:07 -0400, Larry wrote:

bpuharic wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:00:59 -0400, wrote:



By the definition of middle class established here ($125K - $250K) it
is more like several million.

nobody who makes 250K is middle class.


Your situation and paranoia will lead you to an early grave if you don't
relax. Try turning your computer off for a week, or two.

IOW try religion...the opiate of the people? just sit back and let the
rich folks have their way?

that's good for right wing sheep. not for people who think

On 21/07/2010 7:02 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:26:07 -0400, wrote:

bpuharic wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:00:59 -0400, wrote:



By the definition of middle class established here ($125K - $250K) it
is more like several million.

nobody who makes 250K is middle class.


Your situation and paranoia will lead you to an early grave if you don't
relax. Try turning your computer off for a week, or two.

IOW try religion...the opiate of the people? just sit back and let the
rich folks have their way?

that's good for right wing sheep. not for people who think

Yep, we know you will vote for it. Obama is a vote for repression. You
just haven't got the tax bill for the "rich" in DC yet. But you will!

--

Government has liberals, idealists and lawyers, but where is the common
sense?

On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:04:28 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 21/07/2010 7:02 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:26:07 -0400, wrote:

bpuharic wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:00:59 -0400, wrote:



By the definition of middle class established here ($125K - $250K) it
is more like several million.

nobody who makes 250K is middle class.


Your situation and paranoia will lead you to an early grave if you don't
relax. Try turning your computer off for a week, or two.

IOW try religion...the opiate of the people? just sit back and let the
rich folks have their way?

that's good for right wing sheep. not for people who think

Yep, we know you will vote for it. Obama is a vote for repression. You
just haven't got the tax bill for the "rich" in DC yet. But you will!


ROFLMAO!! bush was a religious fanatic. and i dont make capital gains
income so the tax changes wont affect me

you're completely ignorant of the american scence. you're blind

On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:05:16 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:18:40 -0400, bpuharic wrote:


let's see....there are 115,000,000 working americans. about 80% make
less than 100K.

looks good to me.

Most of those people are not "middle class". Half of them don't even
make enough money to pay income tax.

ah yes, the right wing mantra...they dont pay 'income' taxes....so
they're worthless

Where do you get these things?

let's see...capital gains is 15%

then they get to write off their losses. deduct business
expenses...yadda yadda...


I simply pointed half of the people you are lumping into the middle
class are not making enough to pay income taxes so they are hardly
middle class.

?? what makes you think not paying income taxes means you're not
middle class?

On 21/07/2010 7:01 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:05:16 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:18:40 -0400, wrote:


let's see....there are 115,000,000 working americans. about 80% make
less than 100K.

looks good to me.

Most of those people are not "middle class". Half of them don't even
make enough money to pay income tax.

ah yes, the right wing mantra...they dont pay 'income' taxes....so
they're worthless

Where do you get these things?

let's see...capital gains is 15%

then they get to write off their losses. deduct business
expenses...yadda yadda...


I simply pointed half of the people you are lumping into the middle
class are not making enough to pay income taxes so they are hardly
middle class.

?? what makes you think not paying income taxes means you're not
middle class?

I am probably a big exception to the rule, as generally for 98% of the
people gfretwell is absolutely correct.

But in my case, 66% of the cash is tax paid, so in retirement my
realized income is going to be low. This is by design as I get big tax
deferements putting it in, then can draw it out low and slow at a lower
tax bracket. It is called advanced financial planning.

Hey, if I can save $1000 in taxes for 10 hours of work, that is $100/hr
net!!

--

Government has liberals, idealists and lawyers, but where is the common
sense?

bpuharic wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:05:16 -0400, wrote:


On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:18:40 -0400, wrote:


let's see....there are 115,000,000 working americans. about 80% make
less than 100K.

looks good to me.

Most of those people are not "middle class". Half of them don't even
make enough money to pay income tax.

ah yes, the right wing mantra...they dont pay 'income' taxes....so
they're worthless

Where do you get these things?

let's see...capital gains is 15%

then they get to write off their losses. deduct business
expenses...yadda yadda...



*Get* to write off losses? Like that's a good thing? Business expenses
are expenses, not income, so they should be deductible.
I simply pointed half of the people you are lumping into the middle
class are not making enough to pay income taxes so they are hardly
middle class.

?? what makes you think not paying income taxes means you're not
middle class?

On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:41:04 -0400, Larry wrote:

bpuharic wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:05:16 -0400, wrote:


then they get to write off their losses. deduct business
expenses...yadda yadda...



*Get* to write off losses? Like that's a good thing? Business expenses
are expenses, not income, so they should be deductible.

uh no. you dont understand the difference between an expense and a
loss

bpuharic wrote:
On Thu, 22 Jul 2010 19:41:04 -0400, wrote:


bpuharic wrote:

On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:05:16 -0400, wrote:


then they get to write off their losses. deduct business
expenses...yadda yadda...



*Get* to write off losses? Like that's a good thing? Business expenses
are expenses, not income, so they should be deductible.

uh no. you dont understand the difference between an expense and a
loss

Of course I do. You covered both in your lousy statement and I
responded accordingly.