On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:42:10 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:06:53 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 12:15:30 -0400, John H
wrote:

On Mon, 19 Jul 2010 23:10:30 -0400, bpuharic wrote:


the rich are doing fine...so that's all that matters

Seriously, Bob, do you really think all the conservatives here, or anywhere, are
rich?

i think they're sock puppets for the rich. they believe all the
bull**** myths about working hard, how the middle class is getting
richer, how we can turn our futures over to wall street and
everything's gonna be fine

OK, so we're not 'rich', just middle class. Yet, we aren't whining and
complaining about how the 'rich' took all our money. Do you ever wonder about
that?

of COURSE you're not whining. you have your little right wing myths
about how america is SSOOOO special...we take care of the rich and
they'll take care of us.

why not check this out?

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.co...the-day-6.html

how has the middle class done? how have the rich done?

let me know when you take your jaw off the floor.


Do you not think a bunch of us might be middle class? Yet you are the
one
doing all the whining because you paid little attention to your investment.

yeah. me and 100M other hard working americans

Gosh, there's only one here doing all the whining about the money he lost.

uh huh. why not try selling your right wing bull**** to your
neighbors. tell 'em what a great job wall street's done in the last 2
years


I asked if your 401K had a money market fund. By putting your money in same, you
could have prevented the losses you took.

gee. where was your crystal ball in 2006?

Did you really need a crystal ball to know what a money market was?

do you ever read a newspaper? are you aware there's a depression on?

no. i guess not. rush hasnt let you in on it yet

On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:11:33 -0400, Larry wrote:

bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 22:27:41 -0400, wrote:



When would any lender accept a 401K account as collateral?

since it's a standard part of a loan applcation. that's when

been renting all your life, i see


I may be wrong but I believe 401Ks are untouchable in bankruptcy
proceedings. You may have to list them on a loan app but they are
untouchable to a loan holder.


unless, of course, you're able to waive that...which many middle class
people did since it was a source of wealth that the rich wanted to get
their greedy hands on.

WTF?

because you can sign an agreeement to give them access to your 401K. i
didnt have to because my credit score is VERY high...but it's an
option

but you're living at motel 6 so you're unaware of this

On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:03:06 -0400, Larry wrote:

bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:06:17 -0400, wrote:




go ahead and try to get a loan using your 401K as collateral

see what happens



CC


When would any lender accept a 401K account as collateral?

since it's a standard part of a loan applcation. that's when

been renting all your life, i see


I'm going to try to guess what you meant to say...

Loan applications usually are interested in liquid assets. 401K
accounts don't count. I ralize they can be liquidated but loan officers
aren't interested in that.

401k's are liquid assets if you take a tax penalty

not too bright, are you?

and what makes you think loan officers arent interested in money?

On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:34:56 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 21/07/2010 6:07 PM, Larry wrote:
Canuck57 wrote:
On 20/07/2010 8:07 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 20:01:34 -0600,
wrote:

Maybe not by your standards, but by mine, Greenspan was a leftie.

jesus christ...if you're calling greenspan a leftie...

Caved
into Clinton and congress pretty good. He even admited he screwed up in
doing so.

he admitted wall street was greedy. he, unlike you, knew the rich
could be greedy

you're a right wing moron so are too stupid to understand

greenpan can learn. you can't

Makes me smarter than you, I made money on his mistake, you lost your
shirt.

Don't you mean *skirt*?

Good one, he probably lost his balls too.

why? am i ready to run for office for the GOP?

On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:05:16 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:18:40 -0400, bpuharic wrote:


let's see....there are 115,000,000 working americans. about 80% make
less than 100K.

looks good to me.

Most of those people are not "middle class". Half of them don't even
make enough money to pay income tax.

ah yes, the right wing mantra...they dont pay 'income' taxes....so
they're worthless

Where do you get these things?

let's see...capital gains is 15%

then they get to write off their losses. deduct business
expenses...yadda yadda...


I simply pointed half of the people you are lumping into the middle
class are not making enough to pay income taxes so they are hardly
middle class.

?? what makes you think not paying income taxes means you're not
middle class?

On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:26:07 -0400, Larry wrote:

bpuharic wrote:
On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:00:59 -0400, wrote:



By the definition of middle class established here ($125K - $250K) it
is more like several million.

nobody who makes 250K is middle class.


Your situation and paranoia will lead you to an early grave if you don't
relax. Try turning your computer off for a week, or two.

IOW try religion...the opiate of the people? just sit back and let the
rich folks have their way?

that's good for right wing sheep. not for people who think

On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 18:41:08 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

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About 30%. So take students (all ages), retirees, welfare, bums,
disabled, military, government -- they outvote non-governemtn workers.
Which is where the left has its power. And why Obama is always shooting
his mouth off appeasing the lower class.

to the right, anyone one who works is lower class. and a black guy who
says anything except 'do you want a mirror shine on your shoes' is
speaking above his station

On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:04:43 -0400, Larry wrote:

bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:00:38 -0400, wrote:


america has the least equitable income structure in the western world.
it's one reason we're in the shape we're in

and tot he right wing, that's proof god loves the US

That doesn't make any sense. If you want to worry about something,
worry about supporting the lazy ****s who don't want to work.

you mean the wall street hedgefund managers?

On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:02:38 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:06:53 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

I asked if your 401K had a money market fund. By putting your money in same, you
could have prevented the losses you took.

gee. where was your crystal ball in 2006?

I sold a lot of stock in 2006, you should have asked me.
I sold off my home builder stock in 2004. I am actually swimming in
that money (my pool)

gee. too bad most m iddle class americans will have to work 'til
they're 70

On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:35:19 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:10:34 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 21:02:38 -0400, wrote:

On Wed, 21 Jul 2010 20:06:53 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

I asked if your 401K had a money market fund. By putting your money in same, you
could have prevented the losses you took.

gee. where was your crystal ball in 2006?

I sold a lot of stock in 2006, you should have asked me.
I sold off my home builder stock in 2004. I am actually swimming in
that money (my pool)

gee. too bad most m iddle class americans will have to work 'til
they're 70


Only the dumb ones. I retired when I was 49 but I did have a little
hobby job for a few years after that.

so 100M americans are dumb

you right whiners think your little fairy tales have an impact on the
middle class.

wrong