http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38294522...ew_york_times/

insurance companies are starting to ration care by choosing which
doctors they'll let you see.

so much for free enterprise.

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38294522...ew_york_times/

insurance companies are starting to ration care by choosing which
doctors they'll let you see.

so much for free enterprise.

It's all about free enterprise and free enterprise is corporate America
being allowed to grab you by the gonades and sqeeze just as hard and as long
as they want to.

There is a requirement for any company working on USG contracts overseas
that requires the companies to purchase "defense base act" (DBA) insurance.
There are only a few providers for this insurance, the biggest being AIG and
the next being CNA.
The Dept of Labor is supposed to monitor and ensure the injured are being
fairly treated by these insurance companies but like ALL other USG
bureaucracies, the DOL is doing a **** poor job.
In the rare occasion that the injured is determined to be worthy of
compensation or further treatment by DOL, the way the system is set up, the
insurance company can ignore the DOL with no repercussion.
These companies are finally being investigated for war profiteering but I
doubt much, if anything will be done to them.
Our government, including our Democrat and Republican representatives,
belongs to big business.
The American people are too conditioned to realize that the government is
supposed to work for them and not the other way around. Our government has
had the scared and stupid campaign going for a very long time. It's a great
way to control the masses.

mmc wrote:
"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38294522...ew_york_times/

insurance companies are starting to ration care by choosing which
doctors they'll let you see.

so much for free enterprise.

It's all about free enterprise and free enterprise is corporate America
being allowed to grab you by the gonades and sqeeze just as hard and as long
as they want to.

There is a requirement for any company working on USG contracts overseas
that requires the companies to purchase "defense base act" (DBA) insurance.
There are only a few providers for this insurance, the biggest being AIG and
the next being CNA.
The Dept of Labor is supposed to monitor and ensure the injured are being
fairly treated by these insurance companies but like ALL other USG
bureaucracies, the DOL is doing a **** poor job.
In the rare occasion that the injured is determined to be worthy of
compensation or further treatment by DOL, the way the system is set up, the
insurance company can ignore the DOL with no repercussion.
These companies are finally being investigated for war profiteering but I
doubt much, if anything will be done to them.
Our government, including our Democrat and Republican representatives,
belongs to big business.

Yep.

The American people are too conditioned to realize that the government is
supposed to work for them and not the other way around. Our government has
had the scared and stupid campaign going for a very long time. It's a great
way to control the masses.


Yep. Notice what the lefties and righties here are doing right now.
Calling each other names.
That works out real good for the pols, lobbyists and big business.
Won't last too long though. It's all falling apart.

Jim - Former Republican and former Democrat.

On 18/07/2010 8:04 PM, Jim wrote:
mmc wrote:
"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38294522...ew_york_times/

insurance companies are starting to ration care by choosing which
doctors they'll let you see.

so much for free enterprise.

It's all about free enterprise and free enterprise is corporate
America being allowed to grab you by the gonades and sqeeze just as
hard and as long as they want to.

There is a requirement for any company working on USG contracts
overseas that requires the companies to purchase "defense base act"
(DBA) insurance.
There are only a few providers for this insurance, the biggest being
AIG and the next being CNA.
The Dept of Labor is supposed to monitor and ensure the injured are
being fairly treated by these insurance companies but like ALL other
USG bureaucracies, the DOL is doing a **** poor job.
In the rare occasion that the injured is determined to be worthy of
compensation or further treatment by DOL, the way the system is set
up, the insurance company can ignore the DOL with no repercussion.
These companies are finally being investigated for war profiteering
but I doubt much, if anything will be done to them.
Our government, including our Democrat and Republican representatives,
belongs to big business.

Yep.

The American people are too conditioned to realize that the government
is supposed to work for them and not the other way around. Our
government has had the scared and stupid campaign going for a very
long time. It's a great way to control the masses.


Yep. Notice what the lefties and righties here are doing right now.
Calling each other names.
That works out real good for the pols, lobbyists and big business.
Won't last too long though. It's all falling apart.

Jim - Former Republican and former Democrat.


Too bad people are so head stuck up their asses hell bent for no change.

Be a good time for a new party with the motto...

Right now you work for the governemnt.
Governemnt should work for you...
Vote for a real change...

Trouble is how to get 200m bozos to think more than democrat black or
republican white, and in balck and white.
--

Government has liberals, idealists and lawyers, but where is the common
sense?

On 18/07/2010 7:09 AM, mmc wrote:

Our government, including our Democrat and Republican representatives,
belongs to big business.

Good point worth repeating.

The American people are too conditioned to realize that the government is
supposed to work for them and not the other way around. Our government has
had the scared and stupid campaign going for a very long time. It's a great
way to control the masses.

Priceless. The well worded stark truth.

--

Government has liberals, idealists and lawyers, but where is the common
sense?

On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 00:25:22 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 23:50:51 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38294522...ew_york_times/

insurance companies are starting to ration care by choosing which
doctors they'll let you see.

so much for free enterprise.

This is not "free enterprise".It is regulated enterprise.

how is it regulated when it's the insurance companies making the
policy?

When the health care law limited what the plan would charge, they
couldn't afford to pay the good doctors.

the health care law hasnt gone into effect yet.

You are still free to pay more but now your government mandated
insurance will not cover it.
I think I warned you.

you really do drink the right wing kool aid, don't you?

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 00:25:22 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 23:50:51 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38294522...ew_york_times/

insurance companies are starting to ration care by choosing which
doctors they'll let you see.

so much for free enterprise.

This is not "free enterprise".It is regulated enterprise.

how is it regulated when it's the insurance companies making the
policy?

When the health care law limited what the plan would charge, they
couldn't afford to pay the good doctors.

the health care law hasnt gone into effect yet.

You are still free to pay more but now your government mandated
insurance will not cover it.
I think I warned you.

you really do drink the right wing kool aid, don't you?


You have had to go to an in system doctor for most health plans for at least
40 years. Where you been?

"Califbill" wrote in message
m...


"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 00:25:22 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 23:50:51 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38294522...ew_york_times/

insurance companies are starting to ration care by choosing which
doctors they'll let you see.

so much for free enterprise.

This is not "free enterprise".It is regulated enterprise.

how is it regulated when it's the insurance companies making the
policy?

When the health care law limited what the plan would charge, they
couldn't afford to pay the good doctors.

the health care law hasnt gone into effect yet.

You are still free to pay more but now your government mandated
insurance will not cover it.
I think I warned you.

you really do drink the right wing kool aid, don't you?


You have had to go to an in system doctor for most health plans for at
least 40 years. Where you been?

Ever since the insurance industry bought Richard M Nixon. Been going
downhill ever since.

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 22:01:51 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:



"bpuharic" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 00:25:22 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 23:50:51 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38294522...ew_york_times/

insurance companies are starting to ration care by choosing which
doctors they'll let you see.

so much for free enterprise.

This is not "free enterprise".It is regulated enterprise.

how is it regulated when it's the insurance companies making the
policy?

When the health care law limited what the plan would charge, they
couldn't afford to pay the good doctors.

the health care law hasnt gone into effect yet.


You have had to go to an in system doctor for most health plans for at least
40 years. Where you been?

ROFLMAO!! IOW you approve of rationing by insurance companies...and
you are backpedaling since you guys claimed it was the GOVT doing
this. it's not. it's the insurance companies.

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 22:01:51 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:



"bpuharic" wrote in message
. ..
On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 00:25:22 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 23:50:51 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38294522...ew_york_times/

insurance companies are starting to ration care by choosing which
doctors they'll let you see.

so much for free enterprise.

This is not "free enterprise".It is regulated enterprise.

how is it regulated when it's the insurance companies making the
policy?

When the health care law limited what the plan would charge, they
couldn't afford to pay the good doctors.

the health care law hasnt gone into effect yet.


You have had to go to an in system doctor for most health plans for at
least
40 years. Where you been?

ROFLMAO!! IOW you approve of rationing by insurance companies...and
you are backpedaling since you guys claimed it was the GOVT doing
this. it's not. it's the insurance companies.


Where did I say I approve? I understand why you have not had a raise in 10
years. You are very ignorant and probably socially unacceptable to most of
your coworkers. They would probably like to see you leave of your own
freewill.