http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38294522...ew_york_times/

insurance companies are starting to ration care by choosing which
doctors they'll let you see.

so much for free enterprise.

On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 00:25:22 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 23:50:51 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38294522...ew_york_times/

insurance companies are starting to ration care by choosing which
doctors they'll let you see.

so much for free enterprise.

This is not "free enterprise".It is regulated enterprise.

how is it regulated when it's the insurance companies making the
policy?

When the health care law limited what the plan would charge, they
couldn't afford to pay the good doctors.

the health care law hasnt gone into effect yet.

You are still free to pay more but now your government mandated
insurance will not cover it.
I think I warned you.

you really do drink the right wing kool aid, don't you?

"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 00:25:22 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 23:50:51 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38294522...ew_york_times/

insurance companies are starting to ration care by choosing which
doctors they'll let you see.

so much for free enterprise.

This is not "free enterprise".It is regulated enterprise.

how is it regulated when it's the insurance companies making the
policy?

When the health care law limited what the plan would charge, they
couldn't afford to pay the good doctors.

the health care law hasnt gone into effect yet.

You are still free to pay more but now your government mandated
insurance will not cover it.
I think I warned you.

you really do drink the right wing kool aid, don't you?


You have had to go to an in system doctor for most health plans for at least
40 years. Where you been?

wrote in message
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On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 23:50:51 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38294522...ew_york_times/

insurance companies are starting to ration care by choosing which
doctors they'll let you see.

so much for free enterprise.

This is not "free enterprise".It is regulated enterprise.
When the health care law limited what the plan would charge, they
couldn't afford to pay the good doctors.
You are still free to pay more but now your government mandated
insurance will not cover it.
I think I warned you.

BS. The insurance companies have no business deciding anything related to
healthcare. They charge a lot and do nothing.

I hope they're regulated out of business.

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On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 22:08:50 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


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On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 23:50:51 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38294522...ew_york_times/

insurance companies are starting to ration care by choosing which
doctors they'll let you see.

so much for free enterprise.

This is not "free enterprise".It is regulated enterprise.
When the health care law limited what the plan would charge, they
couldn't afford to pay the good doctors.
You are still free to pay more but now your government mandated
insurance will not cover it.
I think I warned you.

BS. The insurance companies have no business deciding anything related to
healthcare. They charge a lot and do nothing.

Then why did Harry Reid let them write the Senate bill? It is a fact
that it was written by a couple of lobbyists who were from UHC.

He didn't. That's a complete distortion. Are you claiming that you were more
in favor of the House version? If so, I agree. It was better. The one that
finally passed had lots of compromise built in. That's call politics. It's
also not the end of the line for reform.

As long as insurance companies pump billions into politician's
pockets, they are not going anywhere.

Thanks SCOTUS for making it even easier.

"Califbill" wrote in message
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"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 00:25:22 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 23:50:51 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38294522...ew_york_times/

insurance companies are starting to ration care by choosing which
doctors they'll let you see.

so much for free enterprise.

This is not "free enterprise".It is regulated enterprise.

how is it regulated when it's the insurance companies making the
policy?

When the health care law limited what the plan would charge, they
couldn't afford to pay the good doctors.

the health care law hasnt gone into effect yet.

You are still free to pay more but now your government mandated
insurance will not cover it.
I think I warned you.

you really do drink the right wing kool aid, don't you?


You have had to go to an in system doctor for most health plans for at
least 40 years. Where you been?

Ever since the insurance industry bought Richard M Nixon. Been going
downhill ever since.

"bpuharic" wrote in message
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http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38294522...ew_york_times/

insurance companies are starting to ration care by choosing which
doctors they'll let you see.

so much for free enterprise.

It's all about free enterprise and free enterprise is corporate America
being allowed to grab you by the gonades and sqeeze just as hard and as long
as they want to.

There is a requirement for any company working on USG contracts overseas
that requires the companies to purchase "defense base act" (DBA) insurance.
There are only a few providers for this insurance, the biggest being AIG and
the next being CNA.
The Dept of Labor is supposed to monitor and ensure the injured are being
fairly treated by these insurance companies but like ALL other USG
bureaucracies, the DOL is doing a **** poor job.
In the rare occasion that the injured is determined to be worthy of
compensation or further treatment by DOL, the way the system is set up, the
insurance company can ignore the DOL with no repercussion.
These companies are finally being investigated for war profiteering but I
doubt much, if anything will be done to them.
Our government, including our Democrat and Republican representatives,
belongs to big business.
The American people are too conditioned to realize that the government is
supposed to work for them and not the other way around. Our government has
had the scared and stupid campaign going for a very long time. It's a great
way to control the masses.

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 22:01:51 -0700, "Califbill"
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"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 00:25:22 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 23:50:51 -0400, bpuharic wrote:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/38294522...ew_york_times/

insurance companies are starting to ration care by choosing which
doctors they'll let you see.

so much for free enterprise.

This is not "free enterprise".It is regulated enterprise.

how is it regulated when it's the insurance companies making the
policy?

When the health care law limited what the plan would charge, they
couldn't afford to pay the good doctors.

the health care law hasnt gone into effect yet.


You have had to go to an in system doctor for most health plans for at least
40 years. Where you been?

ROFLMAO!! IOW you approve of rationing by insurance companies...and
you are backpedaling since you guys claimed it was the GOVT doing
this. it's not. it's the insurance companies.

On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 01:52:46 -0400, wrote:

On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 00:44:06 -0400, bpuharic wrote:


This is not "free enterprise".It is regulated enterprise.

how is it regulated when it's the insurance companies making the
policy?

The government is regulating who the insurance companies have to cover
from day one and they are going to be regulating the maximum rate they
can charge next year

actually they aren't. there is no provision in current law to do this.

any more right wing bull**** you want to spread?



You are still free to pay more but now your government mandated
insurance will not cover it.
I think I warned you.

you really do drink the right wing kool aid, don't you?

You are the one who is saying things are not all going so great in
spite of that wonderful legislation entirely written and voted in by
Democrats.


]]}since the law is not yet in effect it looks like the insurance
companies are doing business as usual...

no sign of free enterprise. no sign of efficiencies. nothing but greed

On Sun, 18 Jul 2010 01:37:49 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 17 Jul 2010 22:08:50 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

BS. The insurance companies have no business deciding anything related to
healthcare. They charge a lot and do nothing.

Then why did Harry Reid let them write the Senate bill? It is a fact
that it was written by a couple of lobbyists who were from UHC.

ROFLMAO!! proof? none. none at all. in fact, the industry opposed SOME
features, which were supported by the AMA.

you guys are really excellent mouthpieces for rush, aren't you?


As long as insurance companies pump billions into politician's
pockets, they are not going anywhere.

and if the GOP had balls they would have opposed the healthcare
industries' attempts to bankroll them