On 23/06/2010 12:13 AM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Canuck57" wrote in message
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On 22/06/2010 6:57 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Canuck57" wrote in message
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I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

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The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

If he's going to run his mouth, then yes, I'd say it's time to leave. I
know your head hurts by it, but the fact is that the general works for
the Commander-in-Chief.

Yep, there is only room for one big mouth in Obama's government.

Some 20 years ago I had a boss like Obama. Always shooting his mouth
off from day one. Clearly showing pretty quickly he didn't know much.
About 2-3 weeks in he called me, the senior person of the crew and
told me to "Do as I tell you, not as you think.". I just got up, on
the way out I said I would be gone in a month.

I picked up the phone and I transfered out in 14 days. On the second
week he tried to talk me into staying, saying who is going to keep
this going. I just said, not my problem any more.

He ws fired in 4 months. He tried the same BS on the only other one
that knew jack crap about how things really worked and he too said
enough was enough.

The plant closed 8 months later.

The moral, if you **** off someone below you, make sure you can afford
to loose them or have them as enemies.
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The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

Moral of the story... you lost your job. I know you're bitter about it.


Funny, I knew it was coming and cashed out. Then got another job. You,
still unemployed to a point you are unemployable.

How long does unemployment last?

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The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

On 23/06/2010 2:33 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 20:28:37 -0700, "Califbill"
wrote:





I think there should be more speaking up. MacArthur was opening the pie
hole even against the Joint Chiefs of Staff on how to run the war. If more
generals had spoken up in 1965 era when I was drafted, maybe we would have a
hell of a lot names on the wall, and we would have been victorious if at all
possible. This guy was saying that Obama came to meetings unprepared and
his aids were total doofuses. Not on how we should be dropping nukes, etc.
per MacArthur. When he retires, I would like him to speak up about the
rules of engagement, and how they are killing our soldiers.

what he failed to note was that obama, unlike bush, LISTENED to the
general, and gave him every single thing he asked for. mcchrystal
determined our policy in afghanistan. he determined the method of
COIN. the troop levels, the resources

it's his plan. NOW he bitches he's not being listened to.

it's bizarre

Not at all. Obama hasn't figured out the enemy is like school yard
bullies. You need to bloody their noses once and awhile to keep them
smarter. Obama has taken the do no harm stand as he loves muslims.
Well, it is getting them killed. Guess the generals are getting sick of
DC head up their arse decisions.

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On 23/06/2010 6:41 AM, Harold wrote:
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On 22/06/2010 8:40 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:30:37 -0700, JR North
wrote:

He would have done well to review McArthur's fall from grace with
Harry Truman before running his mouth off.
JR

If the quotes we are hearing are correct, he was way out of line,
almost unbelievably so for someone in his position. Perhaps in his
subconcious mind he really wanted out of the job. Things like that
happen.

Or perhaps he has had it with Obama's BS and wants out.

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The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

Or, perhaps you're just an idiot.


I can't wait for McCrystal to have the freedom to speak his mind. I just
hope he doesn't suffer from a "fatal accident" before he gets to tell all.

One never knows.

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The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

On 6/23/10 9:12 AM, Canuck57 wrote:
On 23/06/2010 12:13 AM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Canuck57" wrote in message
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On 22/06/2010 6:57 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Canuck57" wrote in message
news
I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common
sense.

If he's going to run his mouth, then yes, I'd say it's time to leave. I
know your head hurts by it, but the fact is that the general works for
the Commander-in-Chief.

Yep, there is only room for one big mouth in Obama's government.

Some 20 years ago I had a boss like Obama. Always shooting his mouth
off from day one. Clearly showing pretty quickly he didn't know much.
About 2-3 weeks in he called me, the senior person of the crew and
told me to "Do as I tell you, not as you think.". I just got up, on
the way out I said I would be gone in a month.

I picked up the phone and I transfered out in 14 days. On the second
week he tried to talk me into staying, saying who is going to keep
this going. I just said, not my problem any more.

He ws fired in 4 months. He tried the same BS on the only other one
that knew jack crap about how things really worked and he too said
enough was enough.

The plant closed 8 months later.

The moral, if you **** off someone below you, make sure you can afford
to loose them or have them as enemies.
--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

Moral of the story... you lost your job. I know you're bitter about it.


Funny, I knew it was coming and cashed out. Then got another job. You,
still unemployed to a point you are unemployable.

How long does unemployment last?



I know this will come as a shock to a low-level and soon to be laid off
wage-earner like you, Canucki, but self-employed people are not
"unemployed."

Perhaps your buds on the right here believe the economical and political
crap you spew, but those of us who are conscious and sentient
get a whiff of your bull**** everytime you hit the "SEND" button.

The other day you claimed you were interested in buying a McDonald's
franchise.

Bull****.

You couldn't pay for a simple $5 lunch for a half dozen posters here.

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On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:04:45 -0600, Canuck57
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I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

so was being a general under truman

and remember general shinseki, under bush?


Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

notice he never complains about the rich white frat boy who screwed
this whole thing up?


Bush fired or "retired" many generals for speaking out. I think Obama
should not fire him unless he believes that McCrystall can no longer do
the job he was assigned to do.


Obama's ego will cause McCrystal to be fired.

He is a thin skinned little man, isn't he?

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On 6/23/10 10:34 AM, I am Tosk wrote:
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On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:04:45 -0600,
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I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

so was being a general under truman

and remember general shinseki, under bush?


Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

notice he never complains about the rich white frat boy who screwed
this whole thing up?


Bush fired or "retired" many generals for speaking out. I think Obama
should not fire him unless he believes that McCrystall can no longer do
the job he was assigned to do.


Obama's ego will cause McCrystal to be fired.

He is a thin skinned little man, isn't he?


We're not talking about you here.

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On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:04:45 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:


I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

so was being a general under truman

and remember general shinseki, under bush?


Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

notice he never complains about the rich white frat boy who screwed
this whole thing up?


Bush fired or "retired" many generals for speaking out. I think Obama
should not fire him unless he believes that McCrystall can no longer do
the job he was assigned to do.


Obama's ego will cause McCrystal to be fired.

I'm going to talk to Obama today and get this mess straightened out.

On 6/23/10 1:06 PM, wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 04:34:21 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 22:12:57 -0600,
wrote:

On 22/06/2010 8:40 PM, Wayne.B wrote:
On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:30:37 -0700, JR North
wrote:

He would have done well to review McArthur's fall from grace with
Harry Truman before running his mouth off.
JR

If the quotes we are hearing are correct, he was way out of line,
almost unbelievably so for someone in his position. Perhaps in his
subconcious mind he really wanted out of the job. Things like that
happen.

Or perhaps he has had it with Obama's BS and wants out.

mcchrystal determined the plan we're using in afghanistan. if there's
BS, it's mcchrystal's

McChrystal is upset that Obama might actually follow the time table
and get us out of Afghanistan next year. Military people make war for
a living and they promote their craft. That is why we have civilian
oversight. In the end it is really McCrystal's decision to leave the
Army or not but he can have his options in the Army severely limited


What most career military personnel want most is to stay in uniform, no
matter what.

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On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 13:09:32 -0400, Harry
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McChrystal is upset that Obama might actually follow the time table
and get us out of Afghanistan next year. Military people make war for
a living and they promote their craft. That is why we have civilian
oversight. In the end it is really McCrystal's decision to leave the
Army or not but he can have his options in the Army severely limited


What most career military personnel want most is to stay in uniform, no
matter what.

I doubt McCrystal will be willing to fly a desk in Fumbuck Arkansas.
If Obama relieves him, he will be spending more time with his family
and writing his memoirs. He might even get a show on Fox like Ollie.

Obie just fired him. His humongus ego wouldn't let him do otherwise.

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On 23/06/2010 12:13 AM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Canuck57" wrote in message
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On 22/06/2010 6:57 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

"Canuck57" wrote in message
news
I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common
sense.

If he's going to run his mouth, then yes, I'd say it's time to leave. I
know your head hurts by it, but the fact is that the general works for
the Commander-in-Chief.

Yep, there is only room for one big mouth in Obama's government.

Some 20 years ago I had a boss like Obama. Always shooting his mouth
off from day one. Clearly showing pretty quickly he didn't know much.
About 2-3 weeks in he called me, the senior person of the crew and
told me to "Do as I tell you, not as you think.". I just got up, on
the way out I said I would be gone in a month.

I picked up the phone and I transfered out in 14 days. On the second
week he tried to talk me into staying, saying who is going to keep
this going. I just said, not my problem any more.

He ws fired in 4 months. He tried the same BS on the only other one
that knew jack crap about how things really worked and he too said
enough was enough.

The plant closed 8 months later.

The moral, if you **** off someone below you, make sure you can afford
to loose them or have them as enemies.
--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

Moral of the story... you lost your job. I know you're bitter about it.


Funny, I knew it was coming and cashed out. Then got another job. You,
still unemployed to a point you are unemployable.

How long does unemployment last?

--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

Funny (well not really), you're a liar.