On 24/06/2010 2:46 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:39:29 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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He didn't have a choice. He was told to resign. He follows orders. You're
an
idiot.


They really can't order him to resign but they can make it the most
attractive option.
Usually, in these situations, the guy actually wants the freedom to
speak freely so he goes. I just hope we don't have to hear the "old
soldier" speech.
I imagine he will be doing the Sunday shows the weekend after he is
separated. Then we will hear what he really thinks.

I think we already know what he "really thinks." The point is that it was
insubordination, and that can't be tolerated in the command staff.


My bet is we ain't heard nothin' yet.
This guy will write a book and do the talk show circuit, probably
ending up with a show on Fox or CNN.
I expect to see him Sunday if he gets mustered out by then.

Make a lot more money without the Obama turds.

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On 23/06/2010 7:56 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 19:37:36 -0600,
wrote:

Fired. Ok, in technical point he resigned. Gets him a bigger pension.
Good move if you think Obama is a jack ass.


except mcchrystal was the author of the current plan for afghanistan

you saying he thinks obama's an ass for accepting his plan?

you really are stupid, aren't you?

My guess is just seeing how fast Obama knee jerks, bet he had it with
the presidents mixed messages and confusion.

Obama is just the kind of guy to backstab. Give you an order, get the
#%*% and I don't care what it takes. Then when you do he tries to burn
you for following orders.

Obama is going to go for a judge next. Could be interesting as I figure
Obama's ego and demenor is like Chavez, and will be interesting to see
if the checks and balances of the US judicial system still have meaning.

Because even BP deserves a trial. Just because the president brings
rope does not mean there should be a hanging without due process. We
also saw how GM bond holders were in a precident setting way, screwed
out of their court hearing in GMs default.

Obama clearly shows he thinks law is a hinderance to his ego.

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The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

On 24/06/2010 4:32 PM, Harry wrote:
On 6/24/10 6:26 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:

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On 6/24/10 4:46 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:39:29 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


wrote in message
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On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 20:09:08 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

He didn't have a choice. He was told to resign. He follows orders.
You're
an
idiot.


They really can't order him to resign but they can make it the most
attractive option.
Usually, in these situations, the guy actually wants the freedom to
speak freely so he goes. I just hope we don't have to hear the "old
soldier" speech.
I imagine he will be doing the Sunday shows the weekend after he is
separated. Then we will hear what he really thinks.

I think we already know what he "really thinks." The point is that
it was
insubordination, and that can't be tolerated in the command staff.


My bet is we ain't heard nothin' yet.
This guy will write a book and do the talk show circuit, probably
ending up with a show on Fox or CNN.
I expect to see him Sunday if he gets mustered out by then.


Spot on. I was more than willing to give him the benefit of the doubt
and charge off his insubordination to strange circumstances, but the
more I hear about this guy, the more the bozo he seems. He apparently
was involved in the Tillman coverup and in torture cases, too.


He had to explain himself to Congress about the latter previously I
believe.



The more I hear about him the less impressed I am. Good riddance.

Hey, more decent from the judges I hear. Obama going to fire them too?

Is that Whitehouse, Venezuela I hear?
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The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

On 24/06/2010 11:38 AM, nom=de=plume wrote:

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On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:04:45 -0600, Canuck57
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I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

so was being a general under truman

and remember general shinseki, under bush?


Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

notice he never complains about the rich white frat boy who screwed
this whole thing up?


Bush fired or "retired" many generals for speaking out. I think
Obama
should not fire him unless he believes that McCrystall can no
longer do
the job he was assigned to do.


Obama's ego will cause McCrystal to be fired.

He is a thin skinned little man, isn't he?

Actually, you short ****, several presidents have fired there generals
for less. Truman/McArthur, Lincoln fired several before finding Grant,
Johnson fired Lemay, McKinley fired Lemay, etc.

Bush fired Shinseki for telling the truth at a congressional hearing
where he was under oath. Does that count?

We will see, hasn't Obama done two generals? All the same I think Obama
be plotting a judge next.

Clearly the man things like Chavez that he has no limits. Going to be
nice to see Obama fall when he goes too far.

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On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:04:45 -0600, Canuck57
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I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

so was being a general under truman

and remember general shinseki, under bush?


Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

notice he never complains about the rich white frat boy who
screwed
this whole thing up?


Bush fired or "retired" many generals for speaking out. I think
Obama
should not fire him unless he believes that McCrystall can no
longer do
the job he was assigned to do.


Obama's ego will cause McCrystal to be fired.

He is a thin skinned little man, isn't he?

Actually, you short ****, several presidents have fired there generals
for less. Truman/McArthur, Lincoln fired several before finding Grant,
Johnson fired Lemay, McKinley fired Lemay, etc.

Bush fired Shinseki for telling the truth at a congressional hearing
where he was under oath. Does that count?

We will see, hasn't Obama done two generals? All the same I think Obama
be plotting a judge next.

He's plotting against you. You're next on his list to fire. Oh wait, you're
unemployed and unemployable. You're safe.. for now.


Clearly the man things like Chavez that he has no limits. Going to be
nice to see Obama fall when he goes too far.

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The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

Things like Chavez??? You're an idiot.

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On 24/06/2010 4:32 PM, Harry wrote:
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On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:39:29 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 20:09:08 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

He didn't have a choice. He was told to resign. He follows orders.
You're
an
idiot.


They really can't order him to resign but they can make it the most
attractive option.
Usually, in these situations, the guy actually wants the freedom to
speak freely so he goes. I just hope we don't have to hear the "old
soldier" speech.
I imagine he will be doing the Sunday shows the weekend after he is
separated. Then we will hear what he really thinks.

I think we already know what he "really thinks." The point is that
it was
insubordination, and that can't be tolerated in the command staff.


My bet is we ain't heard nothin' yet.
This guy will write a book and do the talk show circuit, probably
ending up with a show on Fox or CNN.
I expect to see him Sunday if he gets mustered out by then.


Spot on. I was more than willing to give him the benefit of the doubt
and charge off his insubordination to strange circumstances, but the
more I hear about this guy, the more the bozo he seems. He apparently
was involved in the Tillman coverup and in torture cases, too.


He had to explain himself to Congress about the latter previously I
believe.



The more I hear about him the less impressed I am. Good riddance.

Hey, more decent from the judges I hear. Obama going to fire them too?

Is that Whitehouse, Venezuela I hear?
--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

Are you an idiot? Answer: yes.

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On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 15:26:09 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:39:29 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
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On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 20:09:08 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

He didn't have a choice. He was told to resign. He follows orders.
You're
an
idiot.


They really can't order him to resign but they can make it the most
attractive option.
Usually, in these situations, the guy actually wants the freedom to
speak freely so he goes. I just hope we don't have to hear the "old
soldier" speech.
I imagine he will be doing the Sunday shows the weekend after he is
separated. Then we will hear what he really thinks.

I think we already know what he "really thinks." The point is that it
was
insubordination, and that can't be tolerated in the command staff.


My bet is we ain't heard nothin' yet.
This guy will write a book and do the talk show circuit, probably
ending up with a show on Fox or CNN.
I expect to see him Sunday if he gets mustered out by then.

Well, yet again it's all about what might or might not happen. The fact is
that he was insubordinate and that was way off base. He knew this, but he
was so arrogant that it didn't matter. His reputation will be tarnished
for
his dismissal (and for other things like the Tilman debacle).


This guy still has a lot of credibility. You don't get to where he was
without it.

Yes, and he lost a lot also.

It is clear he was very frustrated with the people in the White House.

So what. He should have followed the prescribed protocol and not complained
to a reporter. That's called insubordination.

I have already been criticized about my guess that he will say Obama
wants to get out before the job was done. (disagreeing with the
timetable was what I said)
Fortunately that guess will be tested on Sunday I imagine so we will
know pretty quickly

Sorry, no idea what you're talking about.... something is happening on
Sunday re the general?

"Canuck57" wrote in message
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On 24/06/2010 2:46 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jun 2010 10:39:29 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:


wrote in message
...
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 20:09:08 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

He didn't have a choice. He was told to resign. He follows orders.
You're
an
idiot.


They really can't order him to resign but they can make it the most
attractive option.
Usually, in these situations, the guy actually wants the freedom to
speak freely so he goes. I just hope we don't have to hear the "old
soldier" speech.
I imagine he will be doing the Sunday shows the weekend after he is
separated. Then we will hear what he really thinks.

I think we already know what he "really thinks." The point is that it
was
insubordination, and that can't be tolerated in the command staff.


My bet is we ain't heard nothin' yet.
This guy will write a book and do the talk show circuit, probably
ending up with a show on Fox or CNN.
I expect to see him Sunday if he gets mustered out by then.

Make a lot more money without the Obama turds.

--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

Yes, we get that you're dirt poor...

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On Tue, 22 Jun 2010 18:04:45 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:


I hear being a general under Obama is a short term career job.

so was being a general under truman

and remember general shinseki, under bush?


Guess he might as well polish up the fishing rods and go fishing.

notice he never complains about the rich white frat boy who
screwed
this whole thing up?


Bush fired or "retired" many generals for speaking out. I think
Obama should not fire him unless he believes that McCrystall can no
longer do the job he was assigned to do.


Obama's ego will cause McCrystal to be fired.


Your ego needs to be self-inflated to compensate for your obvious
lack of intelligence.


Was he fired or not, Dippy?


He was fires for insubordination, as opposed to what Bush did... fire
people for stating facts, Dufus.

He resigned, probably was put to him, resign with full pension or I
will fire you for my ego and cause you pension grief.

He chose wisely and resigned.

--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

He didn't have a choice. He was told to resign. He follows orders.
You're an idiot.

Guess Obama is now also going to have to fire a judge saying even the
Obama must follow due process.

Obama is an arrogant big mouth ass hole.

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The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

Whoo... something crawled up your butt... work it out with a pencil.

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On 23/06/2010 7:56 PM, bpuharic wrote:
On Wed, 23 Jun 2010 19:37:36 -0600,
wrote:

Fired. Ok, in technical point he resigned. Gets him a bigger pension.
Good move if you think Obama is a jack ass.


except mcchrystal was the author of the current plan for afghanistan

you saying he thinks obama's an ass for accepting his plan?

you really are stupid, aren't you?

My guess is just seeing how fast Obama knee jerks, bet he had it with the
presidents mixed messages and confusion.

Obama is just the kind of guy to backstab. Give you an order, get the
#%*% and I don't care what it takes. Then when you do he tries to burn
you for following orders.

Obama is going to go for a judge next. Could be interesting as I figure
Obama's ego and demenor is like Chavez, and will be interesting to see if
the checks and balances of the US judicial system still have meaning.

Because even BP deserves a trial. Just because the president brings rope
does not mean there should be a hanging without due process. We also saw
how GM bond holders were in a precident setting way, screwed out of their
court hearing in GMs default.

Obama clearly shows he thinks law is a hinderance to his ego.

--
The bigger government gets, the more it tends to rule out common sense.

You are almost too dumb for words...