Went canoeing at Wacissa River again today. Over the past few yrs, I
have noticed some odd motors obviously intended for very shallow weed
infested waters. These motors resemble a lawnmotor engine with a very
long shaft, maybe 6' on which there is a prop at the very end. They
go very well in the mats of vegetation covering the water whereas a
conventional outboard immediately bogs down and gets stuff in the
water intake.
I am wondering if these odd outboards will mean fewer airboats because
both are intended to be used in nearly zero water.

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Went canoeing at Wacissa River again today. Over the past few yrs, I
have noticed some odd motors obviously intended for very shallow weed
infested waters. These motors resemble a lawnmotor engine with a very
long shaft, maybe 6' on which there is a prop at the very end. They
go very well in the mats of vegetation covering the water whereas a
conventional outboard immediately bogs down and gets stuff in the
water intake.
I am wondering if these odd outboards will mean fewer airboats because
both are intended to be used in nearly zero water.

I forget the name of them, devil something or mud devil... Either way, I
think places ban them as they really tear up the weed beds and
shoreline... They are used a lot in Asia iirc...

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Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

It's called a surface piercing drive or propeller. As Scotty says, pretty
popular in Asia. I've only seen one in the states, a few years ago.

--Mike

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Went canoeing at Wacissa River again today. Over the past few yrs, I
have noticed some odd motors obviously intended for very shallow weed
infested waters. These motors resemble a lawnmotor engine with a very
long shaft, maybe 6' on which there is a prop at the very end. They
go very well in the mats of vegetation covering the water whereas a
conventional outboard immediately bogs down and gets stuff in the
water intake.
I am wondering if these odd outboards will mean fewer airboats because
both are intended to be used in nearly zero water.

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
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Went canoeing at Wacissa River again today. Over the past few yrs, I
have noticed some odd motors obviously intended for very shallow weed
infested waters. These motors resemble a lawnmotor engine with a very
long shaft, maybe 6' on which there is a prop at the very end. They
go very well in the mats of vegetation covering the water whereas a
conventional outboard immediately bogs down and gets stuff in the
water intake.
I am wondering if these odd outboards will mean fewer airboats because
both are intended to be used in nearly zero water.





I see them all the the time on craigs list, they use them in the swampy
areas of southeast Missouri, there big with duck hunters and there called
mud motors, big twin briggs and Stratton mostly

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Went canoeing at Wacissa River again today. Over the past few yrs, I
have noticed some odd motors obviously intended for very shallow weed
infested waters. These motors resemble a lawnmotor engine with a very
long shaft, maybe 6' on which there is a prop at the very end. They
go very well in the mats of vegetation covering the water whereas a
conventional outboard immediately bogs down and gets stuff in the
water intake.
I am wondering if these odd outboards will mean fewer airboats because
both are intended to be used in nearly zero water.





I see them all the the time on craigs list, they use them in the swampy
areas of southeast Missouri, there big with duck hunters and there called
mud motors, big twin briggs and Stratton mostly

I understand they are noisy, and they do huge damage to whatever they
happen to churn over. Like I said I hope they don't catch on up here, it
would be deviating to the lilly pads and other fresh water surface
flowers which usually are avoided by those with conventional outboards.

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

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"Frogwatch" wrote in message
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Went canoeing at Wacissa River again today. Over the past few yrs, I
have noticed some odd motors obviously intended for very shallow weed
infested waters. These motors resemble a lawnmotor engine with a very
long shaft, maybe 6' on which there is a prop at the very end. They
go very well in the mats of vegetation covering the water whereas a
conventional outboard immediately bogs down and gets stuff in the
water intake.
I am wondering if these odd outboards will mean fewer airboats because
both are intended to be used in nearly zero water.





I see them all the the time on craigs list, they use them in the swampy
areas of southeast Missouri, there big with duck hunters and there called
mud motors, big twin briggs and Stratton mostly

I understand they are noisy, and they do huge damage to whatever they
happen to churn over. Like I said I hope they don't catch on up here, it
would be deviating to the lilly pads and other fresh water surface
flowers which usually are avoided by those with conventional outboards.

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!



Go Devils, mud motors
They have there purpose in some of the swampy areas for access for duck
hunters, they do much less damage than say a 6 wheeler ATV but I doubt
anybody but the local idiots would want one up north, got many local idiots
up yonder? Game warden would kick your arse good here in S IL if you got
caught jacking around with one on our little lakes....we have the sweetist
lilly pads and cutest aquatic weeds, and the biggest bass...and blue gill,
crappie...etc.etc..etc I probably have the biggest Johnson in my
county....my 6yr old grandson took first place for biggest fish in his first
fishing tourny saturday....Oh there I go bragging again...damit....lol

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Went canoeing at Wacissa River again today. *Over the past few yrs, I
have noticed some odd motors obviously intended for very shallow weed
infested waters. *These motors resemble a lawnmotor engine with a very
long shaft, maybe 6' on which there is a prop at the very end. *They
go very well in the mats of vegetation covering the water whereas a
conventional outboard immediately *bogs down and gets stuff in the
water intake.
I am wondering if these odd outboards will mean fewer airboats because
both are intended to be used in nearly zero water.

I see them all the the time on craigs list, they use them in the swampy
areas of southeast Missouri, there big with duck hunters and there called
mud motors, big twin briggs and Stratton mostly

I understand they are noisy, and they do huge damage to whatever they
happen to churn over. Like I said I hope they don't catch on up here, it
would be deviating to the lilly pads and other fresh water surface
flowers which usually are avoided by those with conventional outboards.

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

Go Devils, mud motors
They have there purpose in some of the swampy areas for access for duck
hunters, they do much less damage than say a 6 wheeler ATV but I doubt
anybody but the local idiots would want one up north, got many local idiots
up yonder? *Game warden would kick your arse good here in S IL if you got
caught jacking around with one on our little lakes....we have the sweetist
lilly pads and cutest aquatic weeds, and the biggest bass...and blue gill,
crappie...etc.etc..etc I probably have the biggest Johnson in my
county....my 6yr old grandson took first place for biggest fish in his first
fishing tourny saturday....Oh there I go bragging again...damit....lol

You're in soluthern Illinois? so am I.


Ever go to Carlyle or Rend lake?

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"Frogwatch" wrote in message
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Went canoeing at Wacissa River again today. Over the past few yrs, I
have noticed some odd motors obviously intended for very shallow weed
infested waters. These motors resemble a lawnmotor engine with a very
long shaft, maybe 6' on which there is a prop at the very end. They
go very well in the mats of vegetation covering the water whereas a
conventional outboard immediately bogs down and gets stuff in the
water intake.
I am wondering if these odd outboards will mean fewer airboats because
both are intended to be used in nearly zero water.





I see them all the the time on craigs list, they use them in the swampy
areas of southeast Missouri, there big with duck hunters and there called
mud motors, big twin briggs and Stratton mostly

I understand they are noisy, and they do huge damage to whatever they
happen to churn over. Like I said I hope they don't catch on up here, it
would be deviating to the lilly pads and other fresh water surface
flowers which usually are avoided by those with conventional outboards.

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!



Go Devils, mud motors
They have there purpose in some of the swampy areas for access for duck
hunters, they do much less damage than say a 6 wheeler ATV but I doubt
anybody but the local idiots would want one up north, got many local idiots
up yonder? Game warden would kick your arse good here in S IL if you got
caught jacking around with one on our little lakes....we have the sweetist
lilly pads and cutest aquatic weeds, and the biggest bass...and blue gill,
crappie...etc.etc..etc I probably have the biggest Johnson in my
county....my 6yr old grandson took first place for biggest fish in his first
fishing tourny saturday....Oh there I go bragging again...damit....lol

Very cool... Looks like my shoreline fishing is gonna' end soon enough.
Our lives have changed a lot in the last few years and we are selling
the shoreline home and moving out to the sticks. However the home we are
looking at is right in the middle of some of the best fresh water
fishing in the state so I won't give it up all together.

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

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"Frogwatch" wrote in message
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Went canoeing at Wacissa River again today. Over the past few yrs, I
have noticed some odd motors obviously intended for very shallow weed
infested waters. These motors resemble a lawnmotor engine with a very
long shaft, maybe 6' on which there is a prop at the very end. They
go very well in the mats of vegetation covering the water whereas a
conventional outboard immediately bogs down and gets stuff in the
water intake.
I am wondering if these odd outboards will mean fewer airboats because
both are intended to be used in nearly zero water.





I see them all the the time on craigs list, they use them in the swampy
areas of southeast Missouri, there big with duck hunters and there called
mud motors, big twin briggs and Stratton mostly

I understand they are noisy, and they do huge damage to whatever they
happen to churn over. Like I said I hope they don't catch on up here, it
would be deviating to the lilly pads and other fresh water surface
flowers which usually are avoided by those with conventional outboards.

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!



Go Devils, mud motors
They have there purpose in some of the swampy areas for access for duck
hunters, they do much less damage than say a 6 wheeler ATV but I doubt
anybody but the local idiots would want one up north, got many local idiots
up yonder? Game warden would kick your arse good here in S IL if you got
caught jacking around with one on our little lakes....we have the sweetist
lilly pads and cutest aquatic weeds, and the biggest bass...and blue gill,
crappie...etc.etc..etc I probably have the biggest Johnson in my
county....my 6yr old grandson took first place for biggest fish in his first
fishing tourny saturday....Oh there I go bragging again...damit....lol

Very cool... Looks like my shoreline fishing is gonna' end soon enough.
Our lives have changed a lot in the last few years and we are selling
the shoreline home and moving out to the sticks. However the home we are
looking at is right in the middle of some of the best fresh water
fishing in the state so I won't give it up all together.

Oooops, I transposed the I and the L and "saw" "Southern Long Island"
sorry... Still goin' off the grid though

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"Frogwatch" wrote in message
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Went canoeing at Wacissa River again today. Over the past few yrs, I
have noticed some odd motors obviously intended for very shallow weed
infested waters. These motors resemble a lawnmotor engine with a very
long shaft, maybe 6' on which there is a prop at the very end. They
go very well in the mats of vegetation covering the water whereas a
conventional outboard immediately bogs down and gets stuff in the
water intake.
I am wondering if these odd outboards will mean fewer airboats
because
both are intended to be used in nearly zero water.

I see them all the the time on craigs list, they use them in the swampy
areas of southeast Missouri, there big with duck hunters and there
called
mud motors, big twin briggs and Stratton mostly

I understand they are noisy, and they do huge damage to whatever they
happen to churn over. Like I said I hope they don't catch on up here, it
would be deviating to the lilly pads and other fresh water surface
flowers which usually are avoided by those with conventional outboards.

--
Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese!

Go Devils, mud motors
They have there purpose in some of the swampy areas for access for duck
hunters, they do much less damage than say a 6 wheeler ATV but I doubt
anybody but the local idiots would want one up north, got many local
idiots
up yonder? Game warden would kick your arse good here in S IL if you got
caught jacking around with one on our little lakes....we have the sweetist
lilly pads and cutest aquatic weeds, and the biggest bass...and blue gill,
crappie...etc.etc..etc I probably have the biggest Johnson in my
county....my 6yr old grandson took first place for biggest fish in his
first
fishing tourny saturday....Oh there I go bragging again...damit....lol

You're in soluthern Illinois? so am I.


Ever go to Carlyle or Rend lake?

Yep, been to both, I remember when they built rend lake, took a few collage
course's there to @ rend lake collage, I worked on the resort there at rend,
can't remember the name...seem's like Wayne fitzgerald??? been to many
years, I mostly go to the river and lake of Egypt for my fun, also I live
real close to Lake Glendale, and Millstone bluff, I can see it in the winter
from my house.

I'm down in ole Pope co. out here in the Shawnee,