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says... "I am Tosk" wrote in message ... In article , says... In article , says... "I am Tosk" wrote in message ... In article , says... "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... Went canoeing at Wacissa River again today. Over the past few yrs, I have noticed some odd motors obviously intended for very shallow weed infested waters. These motors resemble a lawnmotor engine with a very long shaft, maybe 6' on which there is a prop at the very end. They go very well in the mats of vegetation covering the water whereas a conventional outboard immediately bogs down and gets stuff in the water intake. I am wondering if these odd outboards will mean fewer airboats because both are intended to be used in nearly zero water. I see them all the the time on craigs list, they use them in the swampy areas of southeast Missouri, there big with duck hunters and there called mud motors, big twin briggs and Stratton mostly I understand they are noisy, and they do huge damage to whatever they happen to churn over. Like I said I hope they don't catch on up here, it would be deviating to the lilly pads and other fresh water surface flowers which usually are avoided by those with conventional outboards. -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese! Go Devils, mud motors They have there purpose in some of the swampy areas for access for duck hunters, they do much less damage than say a 6 wheeler ATV but I doubt anybody but the local idiots would want one up north, got many local idiots up yonder? Game warden would kick your arse good here in S IL if you got caught jacking around with one on our little lakes....we have the sweetist lilly pads and cutest aquatic weeds, and the biggest bass...and blue gill, crappie...etc.etc..etc I probably have the biggest Johnson in my county....my 6yr old grandson took first place for biggest fish in his first fishing tourny saturday....Oh there I go bragging again...damit....lol Very cool... Looks like my shoreline fishing is gonna' end soon enough. Our lives have changed a lot in the last few years and we are selling the shoreline home and moving out to the sticks. However the home we are looking at is right in the middle of some of the best fresh water fishing in the state so I won't give it up all together. Oooops, I transposed the I and the L and "saw" "Southern Long Island" sorry... Still goin' off the grid though  -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese! "Southern Long Island" where be SLI, not new york? if you race for cheese you got to be cheese head, EH? Uh, no.... -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - Jessi goes BRaaaaappp! |
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On Jun 14, 8:06*am, "Happy" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message ... On Jun 14, 7:40 am, "Happy" wrote: "I am Tosk" wrote in ... In article , says... "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... Went canoeing at Wacissa River again today. Over the past few yrs, I have noticed some odd motors obviously intended for very shallow weed infested waters. These motors resemble a lawnmotor engine with a very long shaft, maybe 6' on which there is a prop at the very end. They go very well in the mats of vegetation covering the water whereas a conventional outboard immediately bogs down and gets stuff in the water intake. I am wondering if these odd outboards will mean fewer airboats because both are intended to be used in nearly zero water. I see them all the the time on craigs list, they use them in the swampy areas of southeast Missouri, there big with duck hunters and there called mud motors, big twin briggs and Stratton mostly I understand they are noisy, and they do huge damage to whatever they happen to churn over. Like I said I hope they don't catch on up here, it would be deviating to the lilly pads and other fresh water surface flowers which usually are avoided by those with conventional outboards. -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese! Go Devils, mud motors They have there purpose in some of the swampy areas for access for duck hunters, they do much less damage than say a 6 wheeler ATV but I doubt anybody but the local idiots would want one up north, got many local idiots up yonder? Game warden would kick your arse good here in S IL if you got caught jacking around with one on our little lakes....we have the sweetist lilly pads and cutest aquatic weeds, and the biggest bass...and blue gill, crappie...etc.etc..etc I probably have the biggest Johnson in my county....my 6yr old grandson took first place for biggest fish in his first fishing tourny saturday....Oh there I go bragging again...damit....lol You're in soluthern Illinois? * *so am I. Ever go to Carlyle or Rend lake? Yep, been to both, I remember when they built rend lake, took a few collage course's there to @ rend lake collage, I worked on the resort there at rend, can't remember the name...seem's like Wayne fitzgerald??? been to many years, I mostly go to the river and lake of Egypt for my fun, also I live real close to Lake Glendale, and Millstone bluff, I can see it in the winter from my house. I'm down in ole Pope co. out here in the Shawnee,- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Cool! I'm up in Clay Co. Pleased to meet you, neighbor. |
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On Jun 14, 10:24*am, Tim wrote:
On Jun 14, 8:06*am, "Happy" wrote: "Tim" wrote in message .... On Jun 14, 7:40 am, "Happy" wrote: "I am Tosk" wrote in ... In article , says... "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... Went canoeing at Wacissa River again today. Over the past few yrs, I have noticed some odd motors obviously intended for very shallow weed infested waters. These motors resemble a lawnmotor engine with a very long shaft, maybe 6' on which there is a prop at the very end. They go very well in the mats of vegetation covering the water whereas a conventional outboard immediately bogs down and gets stuff in the water intake. I am wondering if these odd outboards will mean fewer airboats because both are intended to be used in nearly zero water. I see them all the the time on craigs list, they use them in the swampy areas of southeast Missouri, there big with duck hunters and there called mud motors, big twin briggs and Stratton mostly I understand they are noisy, and they do huge damage to whatever they happen to churn over. Like I said I hope they don't catch on up here, it would be deviating to the lilly pads and other fresh water surface flowers which usually are avoided by those with conventional outboards. -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese! Go Devils, mud motors They have there purpose in some of the swampy areas for access for duck hunters, they do much less damage than say a 6 wheeler ATV but I doubt anybody but the local idiots would want one up north, got many local idiots up yonder? Game warden would kick your arse good here in S IL if you got caught jacking around with one on our little lakes....we have the sweetist lilly pads and cutest aquatic weeds, and the biggest bass...and blue gill, crappie...etc.etc..etc I probably have the biggest Johnson in my county....my 6yr old grandson took first place for biggest fish in his first fishing tourny saturday....Oh there I go bragging again...damit....lol You're in soluthern Illinois? * *so am I. Ever go to Carlyle or Rend lake? Yep, been to both, I remember when they built rend lake, took a few collage course's there to @ rend lake collage, I worked on the resort there at rend, can't remember the name...seem's like Wayne fitzgerald??? been to many years, I mostly go to the river and lake of Egypt for my fun, also I live real close to Lake Glendale, and Millstone bluff, I can see it in the winter from my house. I'm down in ole Pope co. out here in the Shawnee,- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Cool! I'm up in Clay Co. *Pleased to meet you, neighbor. I think they fill a specialized niche where the hydrilla is so thick a normal motor cannot operate. I would imagine that a small normal outboard operates well in most lily pad cover. |
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, says... On Jun 14, 10:24*am, Tim wrote: On Jun 14, 8:06*am, "Happy" wrote: "Tim" wrote in message ... On Jun 14, 7:40 am, "Happy" wrote: "I am Tosk" wrote in ... In article , says... "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... Went canoeing at Wacissa River again today. Over the past few yrs, I have noticed some odd motors obviously intended for very shallow weed infested waters. These motors resemble a lawnmotor engine with a very long shaft, maybe 6' on which there is a prop at the very end. They go very well in the mats of vegetation covering the water whereas a conventional outboard immediately bogs down and gets stuff in the water intake. I am wondering if these odd outboards will mean fewer airboats because both are intended to be used in nearly zero water. I see them all the the time on craigs list, they use them in the swampy areas of southeast Missouri, there big with duck hunters and there called mud motors, big twin briggs and Stratton mostly I understand they are noisy, and they do huge damage to whatever they happen to churn over. Like I said I hope they don't catch on up here, it would be deviating to the lilly pads and other fresh water surface flowers which usually are avoided by those with conventional outboards. -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese! Go Devils, mud motors They have there purpose in some of the swampy areas for access for duck hunters, they do much less damage than say a 6 wheeler ATV but I doubt anybody but the local idiots would want one up north, got many local idiots up yonder? Game warden would kick your arse good here in S IL if you got caught jacking around with one on our little lakes....we have the sweetist lilly pads and cutest aquatic weeds, and the biggest bass...and blue gill, crappie...etc.etc..etc I probably have the biggest Johnson in my county....my 6yr old grandson took first place for biggest fish in his first fishing tourny saturday....Oh there I go bragging again...damit....lol You're in soluthern Illinois? * *so am I. Ever go to Carlyle or Rend lake? Yep, been to both, I remember when they built rend lake, took a few collage course's there to @ rend lake collage, I worked on the resort there at rend, can't remember the name...seem's like Wayne fitzgerald??? been to many years, I mostly go to the river and lake of Egypt for my fun, also I live real close to Lake Glendale, and Millstone bluff, I can see it in the winter from my house. I'm down in ole Pope co. out here in the Shawnee,- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Cool! I'm up in Clay Co. *Pleased to meet you, neighbor. I think they fill a specialized niche where the hydrilla is so thick a normal motor cannot operate. I would imagine that a small normal outboard operates well in most lily pad cover. You would imagine wrong Traditional outboards are not designed to cut through (slash and smash) obsticals. Smaller ponds and thus smaller outboards present obvious issues in the lilly pads, but larger boats and outboards get the stems and leaves wrapped around the leg prop and shaft, and starve the water pump for water too. They are not well suited for the pads or algae in most cases. These mud motors are mostly air cooled and designed to cut through weeds and other obsticals too... -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese! |
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"Tim" wrote in message ... On Jun 14, 8:06 am, "Happy" wrote: "Tim" wrote in message ... On Jun 14, 7:40 am, "Happy" wrote: "I am Tosk" wrote in ... In article , says... "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... Went canoeing at Wacissa River again today. Over the past few yrs, I have noticed some odd motors obviously intended for very shallow weed infested waters. These motors resemble a lawnmotor engine with a very long shaft, maybe 6' on which there is a prop at the very end. They go very well in the mats of vegetation covering the water whereas a conventional outboard immediately bogs down and gets stuff in the water intake. I am wondering if these odd outboards will mean fewer airboats because both are intended to be used in nearly zero water. I see them all the the time on craigs list, they use them in the swampy areas of southeast Missouri, there big with duck hunters and there called mud motors, big twin briggs and Stratton mostly I understand they are noisy, and they do huge damage to whatever they happen to churn over. Like I said I hope they don't catch on up here, it would be deviating to the lilly pads and other fresh water surface flowers which usually are avoided by those with conventional outboards. -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese! Go Devils, mud motors They have there purpose in some of the swampy areas for access for duck hunters, they do much less damage than say a 6 wheeler ATV but I doubt anybody but the local idiots would want one up north, got many local idiots up yonder? Game warden would kick your arse good here in S IL if you got caught jacking around with one on our little lakes....we have the sweetist lilly pads and cutest aquatic weeds, and the biggest bass...and blue gill, crappie...etc.etc..etc I probably have the biggest Johnson in my county....my 6yr old grandson took first place for biggest fish in his first fishing tourny saturday....Oh there I go bragging again...damit....lol You're in soluthern Illinois? so am I. Ever go to Carlyle or Rend lake? Yep, been to both, I remember when they built rend lake, took a few collage course's there to @ rend lake collage, I worked on the resort there at rend, can't remember the name...seem's like Wayne fitzgerald??? been to many years, I mostly go to the river and lake of Egypt for my fun, also I live real close to Lake Glendale, and Millstone bluff, I can see it in the winter from my house. I'm down in ole Pope co. out here in the Shawnee,- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Cool! I'm up in Clay Co. Pleased to meet you, neighbor. Nice to meet you Tim, Did you guys get out for the IL free fishing day Saturday? We had a Kids tournament at Lake Glendale and my grandson really did win 1st for biggest fish, it was a blast. Golconda Marina had the big money bass tourny....5000$ top money, do you ever get over to the Iboats forums? best forums on the net. look for mrcrabs best regards, Doug |
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On Jun 14, 9:59*am, Frogwatch wrote:
On Jun 14, 10:24*am, Tim wrote: On Jun 14, 8:06*am, "Happy" wrote: "Tim" wrote in message .... On Jun 14, 7:40 am, "Happy" wrote: "I am Tosk" wrote in ... In article , says... "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... Went canoeing at Wacissa River again today. Over the past few yrs, I have noticed some odd motors obviously intended for very shallow weed infested waters. These motors resemble a lawnmotor engine with a very long shaft, maybe 6' on which there is a prop at the very end. They go very well in the mats of vegetation covering the water whereas a conventional outboard immediately bogs down and gets stuff in the water intake. I am wondering if these odd outboards will mean fewer airboats because both are intended to be used in nearly zero water. I see them all the the time on craigs list, they use them in the swampy areas of southeast Missouri, there big with duck hunters and there called mud motors, big twin briggs and Stratton mostly I understand they are noisy, and they do huge damage to whatever they happen to churn over. Like I said I hope they don't catch on up here, it would be deviating to the lilly pads and other fresh water surface flowers which usually are avoided by those with conventional outboards. -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese! Go Devils, mud motors They have there purpose in some of the swampy areas for access for duck hunters, they do much less damage than say a 6 wheeler ATV but I doubt anybody but the local idiots would want one up north, got many local idiots up yonder? Game warden would kick your arse good here in S IL if you got caught jacking around with one on our little lakes....we have the sweetist lilly pads and cutest aquatic weeds, and the biggest bass...and blue gill, crappie...etc.etc..etc I probably have the biggest Johnson in my county....my 6yr old grandson took first place for biggest fish in his first fishing tourny saturday....Oh there I go bragging again...damit....lol You're in soluthern Illinois? * *so am I. Ever go to Carlyle or Rend lake? Yep, been to both, I remember when they built rend lake, took a few collage course's there to @ rend lake collage, I worked on the resort there at rend, can't remember the name...seem's like Wayne fitzgerald??? been to many years, I mostly go to the river and lake of Egypt for my fun, also I live real close to Lake Glendale, and Millstone bluff, I can see it in the winter from my house. I'm down in ole Pope co. out here in the Shawnee,- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Cool! I'm up in Clay Co. *Pleased to meet you, neighbor. I think they fill a specialized niche where the hydrilla is so thick a normal motor cannot operate. *I would imagine that a small normal outboard operates well in most lily pad cover.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I've seen some boats that run in the stuff that is if it's deep enough and they have a brush guard on the prop. Which is basically a preforated or mesh metal cone . |
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On Jun 14, 10:53*am, "Happy" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message ... On Jun 14, 8:06 am, "Happy" wrote: "Tim" wrote in message .... On Jun 14, 7:40 am, "Happy" wrote: "I am Tosk" wrote in ... In article , says... "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... Went canoeing at Wacissa River again today. Over the past few yrs, I have noticed some odd motors obviously intended for very shallow weed infested waters. These motors resemble a lawnmotor engine with a very long shaft, maybe 6' on which there is a prop at the very end. They go very well in the mats of vegetation covering the water whereas a conventional outboard immediately bogs down and gets stuff in the water intake. I am wondering if these odd outboards will mean fewer airboats because both are intended to be used in nearly zero water. I see them all the the time on craigs list, they use them in the swampy areas of southeast Missouri, there big with duck hunters and there called mud motors, big twin briggs and Stratton mostly I understand they are noisy, and they do huge damage to whatever they happen to churn over. Like I said I hope they don't catch on up here, it would be deviating to the lilly pads and other fresh water surface flowers which usually are avoided by those with conventional outboards. -- Rowdy Mouse Racing - We race for cheese! Go Devils, mud motors They have there purpose in some of the swampy areas for access for duck hunters, they do much less damage than say a 6 wheeler ATV but I doubt anybody but the local idiots would want one up north, got many local idiots up yonder? Game warden would kick your arse good here in S IL if you got caught jacking around with one on our little lakes....we have the sweetist lilly pads and cutest aquatic weeds, and the biggest bass...and blue gill, crappie...etc.etc..etc I probably have the biggest Johnson in my county....my 6yr old grandson took first place for biggest fish in his first fishing tourny saturday....Oh there I go bragging again...damit....lol You're in soluthern Illinois? so am I. Ever go to Carlyle or Rend lake? Yep, been to both, I remember when they built rend lake, took a few collage course's there to @ rend lake collage, I worked on the resort there at rend, can't remember the name...seem's like Wayne fitzgerald??? been to many years, I mostly go to the river and lake of Egypt for my fun, also I live real close to Lake Glendale, and Millstone bluff, I can see it in the winter from my house. I'm down in ole Pope co. out here in the Shawnee,- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Cool! I'm up in Clay Co. *Pleased to meet you, neighbor. Nice to meet you Tim, Did you guys get out for the IL free fishing day Saturday? We had a Kids tournament at Lake Glendale and my grandson really did win 1st for biggest fish, it was a blast. Golconda Marina had the big money bass tourny....5000$ top money, do you ever get over to the Iboats forums? best forums on the net. look for mrcrabs best regards, Doug- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Great! and congrats to the lad. No, I'm not much of a fisherman and I didnt' hear about it, but glad you took advantage of it, Doug. I look around iboats quite a bit for repair and product ideas. There's a lot of knowledge and pics posted on there concerning repair procedures. Especilly the dudes that rebuild boats from the hull on up. A lot of good material to be found. |
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On Jun 14, 10:53*am, "Happy" wrote:
do you ever get over to the Iboats forums? best forums on the net. look for mrcrabs best regards, Doug- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I'll see if I can spot you out. Thanks! |
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"Tim" wrote in message ... On Jun 14, 10:53 am, "Happy" wrote: do you ever get over to the Iboats forums? best forums on the net. look for mrcrabs best regards, Doug- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I'll see if I can spot you out. Thanks! I'm mostly over at the "other outboards" helping Eska owners but theres a pic of my 1969 marquis in the trihull club post at the restoration forum. http://forums.iboats.com/showthread....club&pa ge=12 |
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