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On Apr 23, 8:55*am, Tim wrote:
I know that the ancient engines recommended using a quart of 30 weight engine oil to gallons of gas, which was primitive, then with 2-cycle oils the recommended mix ratio went from 24 to 50 to one, Now the synthetics are going up to 100:1 ratios and for a modern 2 cycle I think that's OK, but I'm not sure about the designs of the 70's. My brother is an Amzoil dealer and he things it's the greatest thing since malted milk, and I like synthetic 2 cycle oil, but I'm wondering about the recommended mix ratio. personally I think 100:1 is a bit thin. Anyone have any thoughts? It's snake oil! There are thousands of tests out there that will show that regular 2 stroke oil and Amsoil is the same when it comes to engine wear and tear. Your engine isn't 100:1 ratio by the way. |
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On Apr 23, 12:40*pm, Loogypicker wrote:
On Apr 23, 8:55*am, Tim wrote: I know that the ancient engines recommended using a quart of 30 weight engine oil to gallons of gas, which was primitive, then with 2-cycle oils the recommended mix ratio went from 24 to 50 to one, Now the synthetics are going up to 100:1 ratios and for a modern 2 cycle I think that's OK, but I'm not sure about the designs of the 70's. My brother is an Amzoil dealer and he things it's the greatest thing since malted milk, and I like synthetic 2 cycle oil, but I'm wondering about the recommended mix ratio. personally I think 100:1 is a bit thin. Anyone have any thoughts? It's snake oil! There are thousands of tests out there that will show that regular 2 stroke oil and Amsoil is the same when it comes to engine wear and tear. Your engine isn't 100:1 ratio by the way. Well, 50:1 is the accepted norm, and I know the lubrication qualities of modern 2 cycle oils are good, and both petroleum and synthetic oils are probably compatable in that aspect, but what I was looking for in the synthetic is less smoke, ash build up and goo on cold spark plugs. |
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On Apr 23, 3:18*pm, Tim wrote:
On Apr 23, 12:40*pm, Loogypicker wrote: On Apr 23, 8:55*am, Tim wrote: I know that the ancient engines recommended using a quart of 30 weight engine oil to gallons of gas, which was primitive, then with 2-cycle oils the recommended mix ratio went from 24 to 50 to one, Now the synthetics are going up to 100:1 ratios and for a modern 2 cycle I think that's OK, but I'm not sure about the designs of the 70's. My brother is an Amzoil dealer and he things it's the greatest thing since malted milk, and I like synthetic 2 cycle oil, but I'm wondering about the recommended mix ratio. personally I think 100:1 is a bit thin. Anyone have any thoughts? It's snake oil! There are thousands of tests out there that will show that regular 2 stroke oil and Amsoil is the same when it comes to engine wear and tear. Your engine isn't 100:1 ratio by the way. Well, 50:1 is the accepted norm, and I know the lubrication qualities of modern 2 cycle oils are good, and *both petroleum and synthetic oils are probably compatable in that aspect, but what I was looking for in the synthetic is less smoke, ash build up and goo on cold spark plugs.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Tim, I've been around the '70's era Johnson/Evinrudes forever, dude. Both crossflow and loopers. Don't try to lube these things using tips, tricks, and snake oil! Fitty to One, brother!! You'll thank me later! |
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On Apr 23, 8:55*am, Tim wrote:
I know that the ancient engines recommended using a quart of 30 weight engine oil to gallons of gas, which was primitive, then with 2-cycle oils the recommended mix ratio went from 24 to 50 to one, Now the synthetics are going up to 100:1 ratios and for a modern 2 cycle I think that's OK, but I'm not sure about the designs of the 70's. My brother is an Amzoil dealer and he things it's the greatest thing since malted milk, and I like synthetic 2 cycle oil, but I'm wondering about the recommended mix ratio. personally I think 100:1 is a bit thin. Anyone have any thoughts? I know that the ancient engines recommended using a quart of 30 weight engine oil to gallons of gas, which was primitive, THAT....was the stupidest idea to ever come along. All it did was jam rings, and leave unburnt deposits in the engine. I've torn down scads of engines that suffered compression loss because of it. Tried to tell the owner that 30 Wt and gas is a no-no....but couldn't get him to listen. " That's what the guy who sold it to me SAID to use " Tried to tell him to use synthetic, or at least 2 stroke oil....wouldn't hear of it. Eventually ALL the engines died....except for the one I secretly mixed with 2 stroke. |
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On Apr 23, 8:55*am, Tim wrote:
I know that the ancient engines recommended using a quart of 30 weight engine oil to gallons of gas, which was primitive, then with 2-cycle oils the recommended mix ratio went from 24 to 50 to one, Now the synthetics are going up to 100:1 ratios and for a modern 2 cycle I think that's OK, but I'm not sure about the designs of the 70's. My brother is an Amzoil dealer and he things it's the greatest thing since malted milk, and I like synthetic 2 cycle oil, but I'm wondering about the recommended mix ratio. personally I think 100:1 is a bit thin. Anyone have any thoughts? Forgot to mention I used to have a Arctic Cat free-air 440 Snowsled . I used to mix it 100 to 1, no problem. Also used to have some old Bombardier Ski-Doos....30 to 40 to 1 on those old babies. I think you could get away with putting it in a 4 cycle engine in a boat, to give extra lubrication to the rings if need be. Just for 1 tank....... |
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On Fri, 23 Apr 2010 22:45:52 GMT, "A.Boater"
wrote: On 23-Apr-2010, Tim wrote: My brother is an Amzoil dealer and he things it's the greatest thing since malted milk, and I like synthetic 2 cycle oil, but I'm wondering about the recommended mix ratio. personally I think 100:1 is a bit thin. Anyone have any thoughts? Oh, yes. Amzoil is MAGIC! It is SO different from any other oil. If you just carry a quart with you, you will never have to pour it in the tank. It will last forever. It has everlasting life. I've read about Amsoil on a few of the auto boards that interest me. From my recollection, the synthetic they have has a high flash point and good lubrication characteristics and is indeed a decent synthetic, but most who use full synthetic use Mobil 1. |
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