On Mar 31, 6:08*am, hk wrote:
On 3/31/10 7:52 AM, Tim wrote:





On Mar 31, 5:45 am, *wrote:
On 3/31/10 7:43 AM, Tim wrote:

On Mar 31, 5:11 am, Peter * *wrote:
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On Mar 30, 9:41 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:59:16 -0700 (PDT),
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John, that's to be determined yet. possibly 200 miles and maybe 3-4
days. In another thread I brought this up about using dry ice in a
cooler, because to me it's repulsive to have food stuffs float around
in ice water even if you use those little resealable containers.and
I've found out from in the past that if the upper part of the
container is exposed to air in the cooler it's not really cold.

One of our hurricane tricks is to stuff the freezer with bottles of
water before the show, then you have mass that takes a long time to
thaw out, when the power goes out. That gives you plenty of "cold" and
when they melt you still have bottles of water. These bottles are also
great in a cooler for all the same reasons. You also don't have that
slimy water sloshing around. You can put your perishables in the
bottom and stack the frozen bottles on top.

Excellent idea Greg. I had previously thought of that, only
experimenting with half gal. jugs.to line the top of a cooler. I've
also got a bunch of ice substitute freeze blocks.

If you're drinking or otherwise using the water, go with that.
I've read the freezable chemicals can absorb more heat, but never
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Same here. They are compact and from what I've noticed is they do last
a bit longer than regular ice. so I suppose it would be good to put
them in the bottom of the cooler and as Greg suggested put the
perishables in the center then top the cooler with either more ice
packs or botles of frozen water.

Are you planning trips of many days duration?

My igloo coolers will keep ice and keep food fresh for a few days, even
in our 90F heat here in the summer.

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Harry, the trip we're planning may be for about 3or maybe 4 days, but
as I mentioned before. The length of the trip is determined by the
weight of the credit card.

?;^ )

Well, then, I think you are making this more complicated than it need
be. If you are traveling and paying your way with plastic, that means
you're going to be docking...and almost every place you might dock and
use a credit card sells...guess what...ICE!

But actually Harry, that's what I'm wanting to get away from, is using
ICE. I'm not really objecting to it, I would jsut rather not if I can
ge3t by without it.

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On Mar 31, 6:08*am, hk wrote:
On 3/31/10 7:52 AM, Tim wrote:





On Mar 31, 5:45 am, *wrote:
On 3/31/10 7:43 AM, Tim wrote:

On Mar 31, 5:11 am, Peter * *wrote:
In articlebc0512fe-d20e-4f71-b23d-
, says...

On Mar 30, 9:41 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 30 Mar 2010 12:59:16 -0700 (PDT),
wrote:

John, that's to be determined yet. possibly 200 miles and maybe 3-4
days. In another thread I brought this up about using dry ice in a
cooler, because to me it's repulsive to have food stuffs float around
in ice water even if you use those little resealable containers.and
I've found out from in the past that if the upper part of the
container is exposed to air in the cooler it's not really cold.

One of our hurricane tricks is to stuff the freezer with bottles of
water before the show, then you have mass that takes a long time to
thaw out, when the power goes out. That gives you plenty of "cold" and
when they melt you still have bottles of water. These bottles are also
great in a cooler for all the same reasons. You also don't have that
slimy water sloshing around. You can put your perishables in the
bottom and stack the frozen bottles on top.

Excellent idea Greg. I had previously thought of that, only
experimenting with half gal. jugs.to line the top of a cooler. I've
also got a bunch of ice substitute freeze blocks.

If you're drinking or otherwise using the water, go with that.
I've read the freezable chemicals can absorb more heat, but never
noticed a difference in actual use.- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Same here. They are compact and from what I've noticed is they do last
a bit longer than regular ice. so I suppose it would be good to put
them in the bottom of the cooler and as Greg suggested put the
perishables in the center then top the cooler with either more ice
packs or botles of frozen water.

Are you planning trips of many days duration?

My igloo coolers will keep ice and keep food fresh for a few days, even
in our 90F heat here in the summer.

--http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym-Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Harry, the trip we're planning may be for about 3or maybe 4 days, but
as I mentioned before. The length of the trip is determined by the
weight of the credit card.

?;^ )

Well, then, I think you are making this more complicated than it need
be. If you are traveling and paying your way with plastic, that means
you're going to be docking...and almost every place you might dock and
use a credit card sells...guess what...ICE!

But actually Harry, that's what I'm wanting to get away from, is using
ICE. I'm not really objecting to it, I would jsut rather not if I can
ge3t by without it.

Well, I do a lot of two to three day camp-outs with limited space too.
We carry three coolers really. The big one has drinks, probably start a
weekend with 40 bottles of water and juice and beer for the end of the
weekend. That one is full of ice and it's just nicer to reach in a
cooler of ice/water and bottles than a dry cold cooler in my opinion on
a scorching hot day. We usually keep a Tupperware or two in there with
clean ice too for drinks, again, nice in the hot weather. The cold food
cooler uses blue freeze packs and anything going in there is frozen too
if possible. That cooler stays pretty dry and stuff thaws as you need it
really. When we are going for more than one day we pack several vacuum
packs full of stew, or pork and beans, ribs, etc. in the cooler and all
you need to do is boil some water and throw the bag in. The third cooler
is the non-perishable dry goods like cereals, breads, condiments,
crackers, snacks, etc...

A typical 3 day starts days before with loading up with good food and
lot's of fluids. This is very important to stay sharp as no matter what
you do, your eating schedule will change for a few days, so build up
that energy. Big carb load the night before the trip too. The day of the
trip we eat a great breakfast (eggs, cereal, breakfast meat, toast, jam,
juice, etc.) and usually get a quick lunch on the road. Snacks on day
one usually consist of something like a bag of microwave pop-corn or
similar. After that, less junk food as the weekend progresses, but we
are racing, not riding down the river. Either way, you still want to
stay sharp and fed. Dinner on day one is usually a home made foot long
grinder or two, made fresh the morning of the trip. That is nice on the
first night while setting up to have a hand held meal and not have to
cook anything.

Bacon and eggs are great and filling, but really, a big meal to cook and
clean at the campsite so I usually only plan one B+E breakfast. I
usually mix up some Aunt Jamima instant pancake mix and put it in an old
ketchup bottle and just pop the top and you have quick easy, no clean,
pancakes too right from the squeeze bottle. BTW, the canned whip cream
propelled stuff is gross, don't buy it in my opinion. Dry cereal or
instant oatmeal serves well the other two days. Remember you have been
eating hearty all week to prepare so you won't starve for anything. Not
a lot of getting around burgers and dogs or brats (which freeze very
well and many times come in ez-close bags) for lunches so you need to
pack a few of them in the frozen cooler for each person, each day.
Dinners are when the precooked vacuum packed dinner comes out. You can
have a few baggies of biscuits or something in your dry storage cooler
to have with the stew, beans, ribs, whatever you put in your vacuum
packs. Easy boil cook, no clean up but the dinner bowls. We also carry a
bag of grated cheese for the weekend, it can make it's presence known at
any meal while camping.

As to your thought about dry ice I have several problems. First,
dangerous in our area with so many kids reaching into coolers. Second,
the way I set up the frozen cooler, stuff is thawing over the three
days. If I had dry ice, nothing would ever thaw enough to eat The
downside is you do have to restock ice here and there over a three day
weekend. A typical weekend for me is about 7 bags of ice, at what, $2.50
each? Personally, I have seen a lot of folks camping and never really
noticed any of the more experienced using dry ice. On the other hand, I
did read about one guy on a group that was able to get dry ice cubes in
bulk, that is something I wouldn't mind experimenting with for a while,
just to line the coolers...

Anyway, that's the way I address food on our racing weekends, just
thought I would pass it along.. Didn't frekin' know it was gonna' turn
into a frekin' book thought, I got blisters on me fingers!!!!!!

Scotty

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