On Mar 30, 9:26*am, "mmc" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

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OK, so I'm trying to get everything in order with my 23' Marquis and
put some creature comforts in it. I plan on using a battery isolator
and I'd thought of installing an 8-D battery, but there goes about 130
lb.s in one solid chunk, so I'm opting for a couple or three extra car
batteries which will add up to about the same weight if not a bit
more, *but I can distribute them around the hull for a better balance..
Plus, I'm taking a friends Min Kota 24 v. troller for 'emergency use'
in case something might happen to the engine or drive. Therefore I can
switch a couple batteries around into series to make 24 for the
troller. It won't be much but it might help us to make it into
somewhere or out of the way of something heavy if need be.

I have a Nord refrigerator that got taken out of a camper that runs
on 12v.or 120vac. I bought it for cold drinking water, juice etc. and
it was cheap enough. OK so there's another 50lbs.. Plus I'm adding
about 6 -12 gal. of fresh water in a plastic canister like for an
outboard gas tank which will be supplied by an *electric pump to a
hand held shower head. *I figure I'm adding about 300 + *lb of extra
gear to an already heavy hull, (Not counting anchor) *but the boat
has a weight load *on the spec tag of 950 lb.

Now *I'm trying o figure out the best weight distribution formulas to
make it easier on the boat concerning handling, fuel economy (Proper
prop and trim tabs *comes next) etc.

Oh yeah, I forgot to mention I'm thinking on adding an extra 10 gallon
fuel tank out of a derelict boat I stripped out for parts.

And with all that , plus the wife and myself, I'm figuring to still be
under the weight limit on the boat.

Brother Tim! Bless you for a real damn boating post!

That's all I try to do, man. It seems that boating posts should be in
a boating newsgroup.

?;^ )

I'd skip the electric water pump. People are much more conservative if they
have to work a little for the water and carrying 5 gallon jerry cans sucks.

Yeah, I ahve some jerry cans but they're to heavy, but I couldn't
believe it when the wife said we could carry some fresh water in
gallon milk jugs (huh?) but sounds good to me.

I have a manual pump for my galley and it really stretches my 20 gallon
water tank
and really like these for showershttp://www.defender.com/product.jsp?path=-1|51|26832|319660&id=566122
Buy 2, keeps the other person honest (only use her own), don't have to wait
hours to reheat, and no moving parts!
Sound like it's coming together!- Hide quoted text -

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Thanks for the encouragement. and all advice is taken into
consideration. I'll be checking out the link when I get home.

On 3/30/10 4:02 PM, Tim wrote:

Yeah, I ahve some jerry cans but they're to heavy, but I couldn't
believe it when the wife said we could carry some fresh water in
gallon milk jugs (huh?) but sounds good to me.

Plastic milk jugs are made of very thin-walled plastic, and can't take
much of a hit before they puncture. Why not buy two six packs of one
pint water bottles, save the bottles as you drink the water, and then
wash them off and refill them?

My little Parker has a 20 or 25 gallon insulated baitwell under the
pedestal seats. But when I have live bait, I keep it in a separate
baitwell, which means the bigger baitwell is available for use as a
cooler. I dump a couple bags of ice in it and stow drinks in it. At the
end of the day, I simply pull the unopened drinks out and let the
baitwell drain on its own accord. I keep my refilled water bottles in
there.

I also have a few igloo coolers of various sizes, and typically take one
of the smaller ones aboard for food storage.





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http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym

On Mar 30, 3:28*pm, hk wrote:
On 3/30/10 4:02 PM, Tim wrote:

Yeah, I ahve some jerry cans but they're to heavy, but I couldn't
believe it when the wife said we could carry some fresh water in
gallon milk jugs (huh?) but sounds good to me.

Plastic milk jugs are made of very thin-walled plastic, and can't take
much of a hit before they puncture. Why not buy two six packs of one
pint water bottles, save the bottles as you drink the water, and then
wash them off and refill them?

My little Parker has a 20 or 25 gallon insulated baitwell under the
pedestal seats. But when I have live bait, I keep it in a separate
baitwell, which means the bigger baitwell is available for use as a
cooler. I dump a couple bags of ice in it and stow drinks in it. At the
end of the day, I simply pull the unopened drinks out and let the
baitwell drain on its own accord. I keep my refilled water bottles in
there.

I also have a few igloo coolers of various sizes, and typically take one
of the smaller ones aboard for food storage.

--http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym

Well that's what I was thinking about the milk jugs. And really I was
surprised that she mentioned it, because it really seemed below her
order of things to offer the suggestion. Plus, the idea is to keep the
interior as un- cluttered ans possible. That's why I'm thinking on
going with a couple of thin line 5 gal. heavy plastic containers with
either an electric or air pump and using a shower nozzle for supply.

Yes, keep the drinking water in the cooler!

On 3/30/10 5:35 PM, Tim wrote:
On Mar 30, 3:28 pm, wrote:
On 3/30/10 4:02 PM, Tim wrote:

Yeah, I ahve some jerry cans but they're to heavy, but I couldn't
believe it when the wife said we could carry some fresh water in
gallon milk jugs (huh?) but sounds good to me.

Plastic milk jugs are made of very thin-walled plastic, and can't take
much of a hit before they puncture. Why not buy two six packs of one
pint water bottles, save the bottles as you drink the water, and then
wash them off and refill them?

My little Parker has a 20 or 25 gallon insulated baitwell under the
pedestal seats. But when I have live bait, I keep it in a separate
baitwell, which means the bigger baitwell is available for use as a
cooler. I dump a couple bags of ice in it and stow drinks in it. At the
end of the day, I simply pull the unopened drinks out and let the
baitwell drain on its own accord. I keep my refilled water bottles in
there.

I also have a few igloo coolers of various sizes, and typically take one
of the smaller ones aboard for food storage.

--http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym

Well that's what I was thinking about the milk jugs. And really I was
surprised that she mentioned it, because it really seemed below her
order of things to offer the suggestion. Plus, the idea is to keep the
interior as un- cluttered ans possible. That's why I'm thinking on
going with a couple of thin line 5 gal. heavy plastic containers with
either an electric or air pump and using a shower nozzle for supply.

Yes, keep the drinking water in the cooler!


I prefer the sealed one-pinters for water...I know the water inside is
clean and I wash the bottles carefully after use. No pumps, no air hose,
no nozzle.




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http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym

In article 016d6338-c291-4c83-8c2e-13e3656c4b78@
33g2000yqj.googlegroups.com, says...


Well that's what I was thinking about the milk jugs. And really I was
surprised that she mentioned it, because it really seemed below her
order of things to offer the suggestion. Plus, the idea is to keep the
interior as un- cluttered ans possible. That's why I'm thinking on
going with a couple of thin line 5 gal. heavy plastic containers with
either an electric or air pump and using a shower nozzle for supply.

Yes, keep the drinking water in the cooler!


Nothing wrong with gallon milk jugs, and a lot right with them.
I've had plastic milk jugs full of water bounce around in my car trunk
for years. They're tough enough.
Big advantage is they're square, so don't waste space like a bunch or
little round bottles.
Just have to make sure they fit in your cooler.
Shower bags are fine too, and collapsing as they shed water is an
advantage. But you need a larger intial space, and can't store in nooks
and crannies like you can with milk jugs.
Your wife has common sense. That's also a plus.

"Tim" wrote in message
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On Mar 30, 3:28 pm, hk wrote:
On 3/30/10 4:02 PM, Tim wrote:

Yeah, I ahve some jerry cans but they're to heavy, but I couldn't
believe it when the wife said we could carry some fresh water in
gallon milk jugs (huh?) but sounds good to me.

Plastic milk jugs are made of very thin-walled plastic, and can't take
much of a hit before they puncture. Why not buy two six packs of one
pint water bottles, save the bottles as you drink the water, and then
wash them off and refill them?

My little Parker has a 20 or 25 gallon insulated baitwell under the
pedestal seats. But when I have live bait, I keep it in a separate
baitwell, which means the bigger baitwell is available for use as a
cooler. I dump a couple bags of ice in it and stow drinks in it. At the
end of the day, I simply pull the unopened drinks out and let the
baitwell drain on its own accord. I keep my refilled water bottles in
there.

I also have a few igloo coolers of various sizes, and typically take one
of the smaller ones aboard for food storage.

--http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym

Well that's what I was thinking about the milk jugs. And really I was
surprised that she mentioned it, because it really seemed below her
order of things to offer the suggestion. Plus, the idea is to keep the
interior as un- cluttered ans possible. That's why I'm thinking on
going with a couple of thin line 5 gal. heavy plastic containers with
either an electric or air pump and using a shower nozzle for supply.

Yes, keep the drinking water in the cooler!

--------

We freeze gallon jugs of juice and milk for camping and boating trips (also
chicken and meat) and use this to keep other (non frozen) foods cold. We use
everything as it thaws and this saves on ice and cuts out the water pooling
in the bottom of the coolers..

On Mar 31, 8:30*am, "mmc" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

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On Mar 30, 3:28 pm, hk wrote:





On 3/30/10 4:02 PM, Tim wrote:

Yeah, I ahve some jerry cans but they're to heavy, but I couldn't
believe it when the wife said we could carry some fresh water in
gallon milk jugs (huh?) but sounds good to me.

Plastic milk jugs are made of very thin-walled plastic, and can't take
much of a hit before they puncture. Why not buy two six packs of one
pint water bottles, save the bottles as you drink the water, and then
wash them off and refill them?

My little Parker has a 20 or 25 gallon insulated baitwell under the
pedestal seats. But when I have live bait, I keep it in a separate
baitwell, which means the bigger baitwell is available for use as a
cooler. I dump a couple bags of ice in it and stow drinks in it. At the
end of the day, I simply pull the unopened drinks out and let the
baitwell drain on its own accord. I keep my refilled water bottles in
there.

I also have a few igloo coolers of various sizes, and typically take one
of the smaller ones aboard for food storage.

--http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym

Well that's what I was thinking about the milk jugs. And really I was
surprised that she mentioned it, because it really seemed below her
order of things to offer the suggestion. Plus, the idea is to keep the
interior as un- cluttered ans possible. That's why I'm thinking on
going with a couple of thin line *5 gal. heavy plastic containers with
either an electric or air pump and using a shower nozzle for supply.

Yes, keep the drinking water in the cooler!

--------

We freeze gallon jugs of juice and milk for camping and boating trips (also
chicken and meat) and use this to keep other (non frozen) foods cold. We use
everything as it thaws and this saves on ice and cuts out the water pooling
in the bottom of the coolers..- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Good thinking, man. This is all being taken into consideration. I
would liek to see how my regridgerator will be working out though. If
it doesn't sound practical then coolers it will have to be.

On Mar 31, 8:30*am, "mmc" wrote:
"Tim" wrote in message

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On Mar 30, 3:28 pm, hk wrote:





On 3/30/10 4:02 PM, Tim wrote:

Yeah, I ahve some jerry cans but they're to heavy, but I couldn't
believe it when the wife said we could carry some fresh water in
gallon milk jugs (huh?) but sounds good to me.

Plastic milk jugs are made of very thin-walled plastic, and can't take
much of a hit before they puncture. Why not buy two six packs of one
pint water bottles, save the bottles as you drink the water, and then
wash them off and refill them?

My little Parker has a 20 or 25 gallon insulated baitwell under the
pedestal seats. But when I have live bait, I keep it in a separate
baitwell, which means the bigger baitwell is available for use as a
cooler. I dump a couple bags of ice in it and stow drinks in it. At the
end of the day, I simply pull the unopened drinks out and let the
baitwell drain on its own accord. I keep my refilled water bottles in
there.

I also have a few igloo coolers of various sizes, and typically take one
of the smaller ones aboard for food storage.

--http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym

Well that's what I was thinking about the milk jugs. And really I was
surprised that she mentioned it, because it really seemed below her
order of things to offer the suggestion. Plus, the idea is to keep the
interior as un- cluttered ans possible. That's why I'm thinking on
going with a couple of thin line *5 gal. heavy plastic containers with
either an electric or air pump and using a shower nozzle for supply.

Yes, keep the drinking water in the cooler!

--------

We freeze gallon jugs of juice and milk for camping and boating trips (also
chicken and meat) and use this to keep other (non frozen) foods cold. We use
everything as it thaws and this saves on ice and cuts out the water pooling
in the bottom of the coolers..- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Another reason why I wanted to 'try' to use the fridge is for weight.
50 lb fridge loaded is still lighter than a couple big coolers loaded
with ice etc. and mroe compact too! But then again, using a couple
more batteries etc it may be a toss up. But with the batteries etc I
can space them around th hull to where they're not sitting like a
chunk of lead (pardon the pun) in one spot.

That's what I'm looking for is to take advantage of wasted space and
weight distribution on the boat.

On 3/31/10 11:43 AM, Tim wrote:
On Mar 31, 8:30 am, wrote:
wrote in message

...
On Mar 30, 3:28 pm, wrote:





On 3/30/10 4:02 PM, Tim wrote:

Yeah, I ahve some jerry cans but they're to heavy, but I couldn't
believe it when the wife said we could carry some fresh water in
gallon milk jugs (huh?) but sounds good to me.

Plastic milk jugs are made of very thin-walled plastic, and can't take
much of a hit before they puncture. Why not buy two six packs of one
pint water bottles, save the bottles as you drink the water, and then
wash them off and refill them?

My little Parker has a 20 or 25 gallon insulated baitwell under the
pedestal seats. But when I have live bait, I keep it in a separate
baitwell, which means the bigger baitwell is available for use as a
cooler. I dump a couple bags of ice in it and stow drinks in it. At the
end of the day, I simply pull the unopened drinks out and let the
baitwell drain on its own accord. I keep my refilled water bottles in
there.

I also have a few igloo coolers of various sizes, and typically take one
of the smaller ones aboard for food storage.

--http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym

Well that's what I was thinking about the milk jugs. And really I was
surprised that she mentioned it, because it really seemed below her
order of things to offer the suggestion. Plus, the idea is to keep the
interior as un- cluttered ans possible. That's why I'm thinking on
going with a couple of thin line 5 gal. heavy plastic containers with
either an electric or air pump and using a shower nozzle for supply.

Yes, keep the drinking water in the cooler!

--------

We freeze gallon jugs of juice and milk for camping and boating trips (also
chicken and meat) and use this to keep other (non frozen) foods cold. We use
everything as it thaws and this saves on ice and cuts out the water pooling
in the bottom of the coolers..- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Another reason why I wanted to 'try' to use the fridge is for weight.
50 lb fridge loaded is still lighter than a couple big coolers loaded
with ice etc. and mroe compact too! But then again, using a couple
more batteries etc it may be a toss up. But with the batteries etc I
can space them around th hull to where they're not sitting like a
chunk of lead (pardon the pun) in one spot.

That's what I'm looking for is to take advantage of wasted space and
weight distribution on the boat.


Heheheh. Batteries and wires and chargers everywhere...you should call
Froggy in for a consult!

The only small boat I ever owned with an electric fridge was my 25
Parker. It worked perfectly...I tried it once. But after that, I shut it
off permanently and used it for dry storage.

Ice and coolers...nothing beats them on small boats for day and long
weekend cruising. Very little to go wrong, no batteries, wires, charges
with which to fuss.




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http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym

On Mar 31, 9:49*am, hk wrote:
On 3/31/10 11:43 AM, Tim wrote:





On Mar 31, 8:30 am, *wrote:
*wrote in message

....
On Mar 30, 3:28 pm, *wrote:

On 3/30/10 4:02 PM, Tim wrote:

Yeah, I ahve some jerry cans but they're to heavy, but I couldn't
believe it when the wife said we could carry some fresh water in
gallon milk jugs (huh?) but sounds good to me.

Plastic milk jugs are made of very thin-walled plastic, and can't take
much of a hit before they puncture. Why not buy two six packs of one
pint water bottles, save the bottles as you drink the water, and then
wash them off and refill them?

My little Parker has a 20 or 25 gallon insulated baitwell under the
pedestal seats. But when I have live bait, I keep it in a separate
baitwell, which means the bigger baitwell is available for use as a
cooler. I dump a couple bags of ice in it and stow drinks in it. At the
end of the day, I simply pull the unopened drinks out and let the
baitwell drain on its own accord. I keep my refilled water bottles in
there.

I also have a few igloo coolers of various sizes, and typically take one
of the smaller ones aboard for food storage.

--http://tinyurl.com/ykxp2ym

Well that's what I was thinking about the milk jugs. And really I was
surprised that she mentioned it, because it really seemed below her
order of things to offer the suggestion. Plus, the idea is to keep the
interior as un- cluttered ans possible. That's why I'm thinking on
going with a couple of thin line *5 gal. heavy plastic containers with
either an electric or air pump and using a shower nozzle for supply.

Yes, keep the drinking water in the cooler!

--------

We freeze gallon jugs of juice and milk for camping and boating trips (also
chicken and meat) and use this to keep other (non frozen) foods cold. We use
everything as it thaws and this saves on ice and cuts out the water pooling
in the bottom of the coolers..- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Another reason why I wanted to 'try' to use the fridge is for weight.
50 lb fridge loaded is still lighter than a *couple big coolers loaded
with ice etc. and mroe compact too! *But then again, using a couple
more batteries etc it may be a toss up. But with the batteries etc I
can space them around th hull to where they're not sitting like a
chunk of lead (pardon the pun) in one spot.

That's what I'm looking for is to take advantage of wasted space and
weight distribution on the boat.

Heheheh. Batteries and wires and chargers everywhere...you should call
Froggy in for a consult!



Harry. Batteries, wiring, and chargers have been my business for 30
years.