On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 06:44:57 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 22/03/2010 9:33 PM, wrote:

The problem is "the law" can easily change and make the projection
wildly wrong. That is what happened to Medicare. Once they got the
framework in place it became a Christmas tree that everyone could hang
ornaments on. That is the fear with this bill. The congress is already
saying they are going to "fix all the problems" that were created to
get it passed in the first place. I am sure all of the cost saving
devices will be the first things to go, like the Medicare cuts, the
tax increases and the limits on what they grant the states.

Good annology. And he reason they don't want it in a seperate fund is
so they can hide the skiming as they ask for more, and more taxes. Foot
is now in the door, going to be hard now to stop.

of course, this idea is testable. has this been done with social
security? nope. medicare? nope

so he's full of ****.

They will. When the tax bill arrives people will be ****ed to no end.

actually it's going to reduce healthcare costs over the next decade.
this moron knows zip about economics

It will not be just income tax, sin taxes, utilities, gas and like EVERY
other nation with a statism government VAT, a national sales tax. At
some point government will go for a national sales tax.

as if we 're not already payin for healthcare...twice what other
countries pay

more proof the moron knows nothing except what he hears on talk radio

On 23/03/2010 6:35 PM, bpuharic wrote:

actually it's going to reduce healthcare costs over the next decade.
this moron knows zip about economics

You liberals are so naive. And Obama is spending $1.7 trillion more
than he has to spend for the second year in a row but WTF he is saving
money... ya right. In reality he will overspend America into bankruptcy
even more next year. Until America is broke.

Even the IMF can't bailout the USA.

You idiots have to stop watching big mouth Obama's lips and watches how
he walks. You are too easy to lead down the garden path.

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"Canuck57" wrote in message
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On 23/03/2010 6:35 PM, bpuharic wrote:

actually it's going to reduce healthcare costs over the next decade.
this moron knows zip about economics

You liberals are so naive. And Obama is spending $1.7 trillion more than
he has to spend for the second year in a row but WTF he is saving money...
ya right. In reality he will overspend America into bankruptcy even more
next year. Until America is broke.

Even the IMF can't bailout the USA.

You idiots have to stop watching big mouth Obama's lips and watches how he
walks. You are too easy to lead down the garden path.

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Politicians don't provide anything, the tax payers do.


You're really, really dumb. I know you don't make this up, so you must be
getting it from some blog.

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On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 06:55:34 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 23/03/2010 6:35 PM, bpuharic wrote:

actually it's going to reduce healthcare costs over the next decade.
this moron knows zip about economics

You liberals are so naive. And Obama is spending $1.7 trillion more
than he has to spend for the second year in a row but WTF he is saving
money... ya right. In reality he will overspend America into bankruptcy
even more next year. Until America is broke.

Even the IMF can't bailout the USA.

You idiots have to stop watching big mouth Obama's lips and watches how
he walks. You are too easy to lead down the garden path.

Do you have another group that you *contribute* to that targets
Canadian misuse of taxpayer funds?

Do you spend as much time there as you do on rec.boats complaining
about what oiur country does with its tax revenues?

Do you know our biggest trading partner is Canada? 38 Billion dollars
in trade.

Carp away but shouldn't you be working to improve your own lot?

Are you so rejected by your own that you have to find some other
country to bitch about?

"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 06:44:57 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 22/03/2010 9:33 PM, wrote:

The problem is "the law" can easily change and make the projection
wildly wrong. That is what happened to Medicare. Once they got the
framework in place it became a Christmas tree that everyone could hang
ornaments on. That is the fear with this bill. The congress is already
saying they are going to "fix all the problems" that were created to
get it passed in the first place. I am sure all of the cost saving
devices will be the first things to go, like the Medicare cuts, the
tax increases and the limits on what they grant the states.

Good annology. And he reason they don't want it in a seperate fund is
so they can hide the skiming as they ask for more, and more taxes. Foot
is now in the door, going to be hard now to stop.

of course, this idea is testable. has this been done with social
security? nope. medicare? nope

so he's full of ****.

They will. When the tax bill arrives people will be ****ed to no end.

actually it's going to reduce healthcare costs over the next decade.
this moron knows zip about economics

It will not be just income tax, sin taxes, utilities, gas and like EVERY
other nation with a statism government VAT, a national sales tax. At
some point government will go for a national sales tax.

as if we 're not already payin for healthcare...twice what other
countries pay

more proof the moron knows nothing except what he hears on talk radio


Europe has a shortage of doctors. They immigrate to countries that pay a
decent rate. The only docs you will see in the future, unless we make
medical school free, will be those from 3rd world countries.

CalifBill wrote:
"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 06:44:57 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 22/03/2010 9:33 PM, wrote:

The problem is "the law" can easily change and make the projection
wildly wrong. That is what happened to Medicare. Once they got the
framework in place it became a Christmas tree that everyone could hang
ornaments on. That is the fear with this bill. The congress is already
saying they are going to "fix all the problems" that were created to
get it passed in the first place. I am sure all of the cost saving
devices will be the first things to go, like the Medicare cuts, the
tax increases and the limits on what they grant the states.
Good annology. And he reason they don't want it in a seperate fund is
so they can hide the skiming as they ask for more, and more taxes. Foot
is now in the door, going to be hard now to stop.

of course, this idea is testable. has this been done with social
security? nope. medicare? nope

so he's full of ****.

They will. When the tax bill arrives people will be ****ed to no end.
actually it's going to reduce healthcare costs over the next decade.
this moron knows zip about economics

It will not be just income tax, sin taxes, utilities, gas and like EVERY
other nation with a statism government VAT, a national sales tax. At
some point government will go for a national sales tax.
as if we 're not already payin for healthcare...twice what other
countries pay

more proof the moron knows nothing except what he hears on talk radio


Europe has a shortage of doctors. They immigrate to countries that pay a
decent rate. The only docs you will see in the future, unless we make
medical school free, will be those from 3rd world countries.


They are already here in droves. It's hard to find a doc. that speaks
clear English, which is my native tongue by the way. It ain't going to
get better.

"CalifBill" wrote in message
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"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 06:44:57 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 22/03/2010 9:33 PM, wrote:

The problem is "the law" can easily change and make the projection
wildly wrong. That is what happened to Medicare. Once they got the
framework in place it became a Christmas tree that everyone could hang
ornaments on. That is the fear with this bill. The congress is already
saying they are going to "fix all the problems" that were created to
get it passed in the first place. I am sure all of the cost saving
devices will be the first things to go, like the Medicare cuts, the
tax increases and the limits on what they grant the states.

Good annology. And he reason they don't want it in a seperate fund is
so they can hide the skiming as they ask for more, and more taxes. Foot
is now in the door, going to be hard now to stop.

of course, this idea is testable. has this been done with social
security? nope. medicare? nope

so he's full of ****.

They will. When the tax bill arrives people will be ****ed to no end.

actually it's going to reduce healthcare costs over the next decade.
this moron knows zip about economics

It will not be just income tax, sin taxes, utilities, gas and like EVERY
other nation with a statism government VAT, a national sales tax. At
some point government will go for a national sales tax.

as if we 're not already payin for healthcare...twice what other
countries pay

more proof the moron knows nothing except what he hears on talk radio


Europe has a shortage of doctors. They immigrate to countries that pay a
decent rate. The only docs you will see in the future, unless we make
medical school free, will be those from 3rd world countries.

Sure... Doctors trained here, born here, brought up here are going to move
to Turkey. Ok. All of this because we want people to be healthy... loooney!

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nom=de=plume wrote:
"CalifBill" wrote in message
m...
"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 06:44:57 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 22/03/2010 9:33 PM, wrote:

The problem is "the law" can easily change and make the projection
wildly wrong. That is what happened to Medicare. Once they got the
framework in place it became a Christmas tree that everyone could hang
ornaments on. That is the fear with this bill. The congress is already
saying they are going to "fix all the problems" that were created to
get it passed in the first place. I am sure all of the cost saving
devices will be the first things to go, like the Medicare cuts, the
tax increases and the limits on what they grant the states.
Good annology. And he reason they don't want it in a seperate fund is
so they can hide the skiming as they ask for more, and more taxes. Foot
is now in the door, going to be hard now to stop.

of course, this idea is testable. has this been done with social
security? nope. medicare? nope

so he's full of ****.

They will. When the tax bill arrives people will be ****ed to no end.
actually it's going to reduce healthcare costs over the next decade.
this moron knows zip about economics

It will not be just income tax, sin taxes, utilities, gas and like EVERY
other nation with a statism government VAT, a national sales tax. At
some point government will go for a national sales tax.
as if we 're not already payin for healthcare...twice what other
countries pay

more proof the moron knows nothing except what he hears on talk radio

Europe has a shortage of doctors. They immigrate to countries that pay a
decent rate. The only docs you will see in the future, unless we make
medical school free, will be those from 3rd world countries.

Sure... Doctors trained here, born here, brought up here are going to move
to Turkey. Ok. All of this because we want people to be healthy... loooney!

What a dunce. Do a study on which countries are most represented in our
medical schools. I'd say India but I'm just guessing.

"anon-e-moose" wrote in message
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nom=de=plume wrote:
"CalifBill" wrote in message
m...
"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 06:44:57 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

On 22/03/2010 9:33 PM, wrote:

The problem is "the law" can easily change and make the projection
wildly wrong. That is what happened to Medicare. Once they got the
framework in place it became a Christmas tree that everyone could
hang
ornaments on. That is the fear with this bill. The congress is
already
saying they are going to "fix all the problems" that were created to
get it passed in the first place. I am sure all of the cost saving
devices will be the first things to go, like the Medicare cuts, the
tax increases and the limits on what they grant the states.
Good annology. And he reason they don't want it in a seperate fund is
so they can hide the skiming as they ask for more, and more taxes.
Foot
is now in the door, going to be hard now to stop.

of course, this idea is testable. has this been done with social
security? nope. medicare? nope

so he's full of ****.

They will. When the tax bill arrives people will be ****ed to no end.
actually it's going to reduce healthcare costs over the next decade.
this moron knows zip about economics

It will not be just income tax, sin taxes, utilities, gas and like
EVERY
other nation with a statism government VAT, a national sales tax. At
some point government will go for a national sales tax.
as if we 're not already payin for healthcare...twice what other
countries pay

more proof the moron knows nothing except what he hears on talk radio

Europe has a shortage of doctors. They immigrate to countries that pay
a decent rate. The only docs you will see in the future, unless we make
medical school free, will be those from 3rd world countries.

Sure... Doctors trained here, born here, brought up here are going to
move to Turkey. Ok. All of this because we want people to be healthy...
loooney!

What a dunce. Do a study on which countries are most represented in our
medical schools. I'd say India but I'm just guessing.


What a dunce yourself. Do a study on who gets paid the most after getting
out of medical schools in the US... those staying or those leaving. If
demand is going up and there's a shortage, there would then be an increase
in cost. Dollars and sense, the latter of which you have zero.

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On Wed, 24 Mar 2010 11:45:48 -0700, "CalifBill"
wrote:


"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Tue, 23 Mar 2010 06:44:57 -0600, Canuck57
wrote:

more proof the moron knows nothing except what he hears on talk radio


Europe has a shortage of doctors. They immigrate to countries that pay a
decent rate. The only docs you will see in the future, unless we make
medical school free, will be those from 3rd world countries.

the US also has a shortage of doctors. that's why PA just started
another med school in scranton. and healthcare in most western
countries is better than US healthcare...and half as expensive

so, you were saying?