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"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 08:24:26 -0700, Canuck57
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On 24/01/2010 3:50 AM, bpuharic wrote:
On Sat, 23 Jan 2010 22:11:10 -0800, "CalifBill"
wrote:


i did my grad work at lehigh. they didn't admit women until '71.
neither did princeton. there's still alot of bias in the system

Can one imagine the howling if I set up a institution with the same
funding like UNCF but called it UWCF?

and how many blacks used to own whites?

let's see....the right believes that obama's been president for 8
years.

and that slavery never happened.

what other interesting facts of history will the right wing invent?
stay tuned!

Racism is a two sided coin and isn't always what it seems. In fact,
cries of racism are often crying wolf when there is no wolf. And the
disease where it exists is not limited to WASPs, in fact some of the
worst racism I have ever seen whas not white initiated.

ever hear of 'loving vs virginia'?

why not tell us about how it was illegal for blacks to marry whites
until 1972 and how that proves racism never existed in the US, OK?

as to black racism, its first victim is other blacks and the way it
cripples black achievement.

BUT blacks never sat on the boards of big companies, were CEO's etc.
until racism became disgusting

which didn't happen all that long ago.

so tell us how blacks used to lynch whites, and other right wing
stories. i love a good fairy tale



You are very uninformed. Blacks owned slaves in the south. Did you know
that?

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On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 18:34:43 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 12:23:09 -0500, bpuharic wrote:


you mean the president the GOP impeached? yeah. looks like he had ALOT
of control over congress, right?


Bill Clinton was the cheerleader on the commodities deregulation bill
that allowed CDOs.

you mean the gramm bill? named after phil gramm, the REPUBLICAN who
authored it, on behalf of his enron VP wife?

that the bill you referring to?


No that was Gramm-Leach-Bliley in 1999. Clinton was in favor of that
too, along with 43% of the democrats voting for it.

uh huh. the president who was impeached by the GOP congress. and the
bill written by the right wing GOP senator whose wife was an enron sr.
VP

BTW that was what allowed banks to be brokerage houses.

like lehman bros...goldman sachs...

I am talking about The Commodity Futures Modernization Act of 2000
that repealed the bucket shop laws and allowed CDOs
The house voted 292-60 (9 democrats said no) and the senate gave it
unanimous consent
The democrats are neck deep in that **** hole. You can go look at the
vote if you want http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2000/roll603.xml

funny that the person most instrumental in the CFMA was...phil gramm.
the bill, as originally written, allowed the SEC to regulate swaps and
allowed the CFTC to regulate certain bank financial products

gramm, at the best of enron, etc., held up passage of the bill until
these provisions were stripped from the bill...essentially allowing
the bank robbers to guard the bank.

in 2008, congress started to re-regulate some of these products. they
had to do so by over riding bush's presidential veto.



It sure sounds like that was a bi-partisan screwing if those 2
deregulation bills were the cause. The democrats and Bill Clinton were
leading the charge to pump up the market and increase corporate power
over us.

and yet the right wing says it's the fault of the middle class.
when the economy went south, destroying the life savings of the middle
class...the right blamed the very victims of the crime

and, yes, the democrats were assholes for following the mythology of
the free market and it's blind prophet alan greenspan

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On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 18:36:06 -0500, wrote:

On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 12:24:30 -0500, bpuharic wrote:

What was GM's largest financial liability?

it wasn't labor. labor accounts for less than 10% of a car's cost

try again...you already proved how much right wingers hate the middle
class when you blamed us for the financial meltdown, instead of your
god, wall street.

You try again, The biggest cost of a GM car was the pension and
benefit obligation

... and we ARE the middle class

and in many other countries, such costs are picked up by the govt. the
US is engaged in a race to the bottom

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On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 15:51:04 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
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On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 12:23:09 -0500, bpuharic wrote:


It sure sounds like that was a bi-partisan screwing if those 2
deregulation bills were the cause. The democrats and Bill Clinton were
leading the charge to pump up the market and increase corporate power
over us.

Stop blaming Clinton and the democrats for something that's obviously been
supported far longer and with more fervor by the right wing.

yeah that's plain nuts. if he could, he'd blame obama for the civil
war...

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On 24/01/2010 4:45 PM, wrote:
On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 12:42:41 -0500, wrote:

Time will tell but the market is over bought for the fundimentals which
tells me inflation is the cause. Jobless recovery at best.

Agreed, put in some stop loss orders if you want to lock in profits,
although it would have been better done last week.
I have unrealized sell orders in on a few items, looking for one more
little bounce.

Money does tend to pile onto anything that looks like it is going up,
whether it is rational or not. Usually it isn't

core inflation was about 2% last year.

care to try again?

What does that have to do with what we were talking about (the
valuation of the stock market)
He was trying to say stocks are overpriced right now. If "right now"
is last week I agree There was a big correction Thursday and Friday
after Obama announced he was cracking down on wall street.

The real question is if that will blow over and people will continue
to buy the market up or whether they will cash in and wait for better
news before the start buying again.

We are due for a correction, question is how deap will it go this time.
My guess is below 10,000 on the Dow is almost certain. Maybe 9000 in
two weeks?

With China pulling back on credit, Obama is broke and looking for $1.9
trillion for this years debt-spend, Japan is in toruble too,
unemployment up again, I would say wild assed dips are a coming. Only
the threat of currency deflation keeps stocks this high.

Are we sure Obama isn't Osama's brother?

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On 24/01/2010 5:23 PM, bpuharic wrote:

He was trying to say stocks are overpriced right now. If "right now"
is last week I agree There was a big correction Thursday and Friday
after Obama announced he was cracking down on wall street.

great the thieves are getting worried

No, the thieves like me have already cashed out waiting for dips and
good prices as people panic. Made 30%+ last year on this trick. I was
cashing out in December and the first week of January.

Have to love this volitily. Cha-ching!

All possible for lib-dimwits insatiable need for cheap easy debt.

The real question is if that will blow over and people will continue
to buy the market up or whether they will cash in and wait for better
news before the start buying again.

the real question is if congress will let the president reign in the
banks or will they start the traditional crap about class warfare like
one republican did last week

Hot air tought talk on Obama is a ruse, BS, sucker bait. Banks has him
by the balls. A better position than GM had, and GM got $100 billion
for it's criminal debt problems.

Just hot air from talk a lot. Sounds like a street jive,w e will get
the money back. Who is he BSing? GM on the books only owes US treasury
$6.7 billion. You do the math. Just flack. Obama is mad because China
is pulling his credit. Just like a spoiled debtor that didn't pay the
car loan blaming the bank.

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"Harry" wrote in message
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It didn't help that GM has been buying out the boomers with full
pensions and benefits when they are in their 50s. It is just a way to
make your bottom line look better and offload the problem onto the
taxpayer. I believe Detroit management and the UAW share
responsibility here.



You righties seem to have no understanding whatsoever about the purpose of
a labor union. That purpose is to advocate for its members for better
wages, hours, working conditions and fringe benefits, and to protect its
members from the arbitrary decisions of management. Unions are not
responsible for the screw-ups of management.


Wait a minute. The labor unions have had a mighty strong negotiating
positions with
management for many years. Those negotiations affect management decisions,
good or bad.
You can't say that unions don't have an affect on the company's direction or
future, as
you have already stated that their purpose includes "to protect its members
from the arbitrary
decisions of management."

Eisboch

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"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 09:13:12 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:

On 23/01/2010 12:01 PM, bpuharic wrote:


it's not that government is too large. it's that it's been captured by
the very people it's supposed to regulate, and has often turned
against the people who give it its power

And because the voters are politically corrupted themselves. "Obama
will pay for my gas and morgage...".

the biggest spender in US history was george bush

again and again you keep telling me obama was president for 8 years

got proof, or do right winger have a short attention span?


... Low morals, low wisdom, low life
entitlement mentality.

you guys go on about small govt THEN tell us you want the govt to be
in the morals business

another contradiction in right wing theology

Why do you say Bush is the Biggest Spender? At the rate that Obama and
Congress are burning through money, they have almost caught up in a year
what it took Congress, both Republican and Democrat controlled versions, and
Bush 8 years to spend. The current people in control are talking another
stimulus bill. They may pass Bush in 18 months. And set records that will
doom us to 3rd world status. Use your boat now, as you will not be able to
afford to at the rate Congress and Obama are piling up debt.

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"bpuharic" wrote in message
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On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 15:51:04 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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wrote in message
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On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 12:23:09 -0500, bpuharic wrote:


It sure sounds like that was a bi-partisan screwing if those 2
deregulation bills were the cause. The democrats and Bill Clinton were
leading the charge to pump up the market and increase corporate power
over us.

Stop blaming Clinton and the democrats for something that's obviously been
supported far longer and with more fervor by the right wing.

yeah that's plain nuts. if he could, he'd blame obama for the civil
war...



Well, he's half black and half white, so it fits. :)

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