"John H" wrote in message
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On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 11:41:49 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
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America rising....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZs8k4pJcyk
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John H


Same crap, different thread. Try to come up with something original for
once..

Glad you enjoyed the show, plum.


You're the one who seems to enjoy crap.

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Nom=de=Plume

On 17/01/2010 12:46 PM, bpuharic wrote:

To a liberal-democrat, they never take ownership of their problems.
Lib-dimwit Congress, not Bush controlled the budget. Go figure,
congress liked all that waste of money they supported a GOP to get it.
LMAO.

a nice little fiction from the right wing

No fiction. Conservative people tend to rely on themselves more. Let
needy. Conservatives are more likely to take ownership of the issues
but the liberals tend to ignore them easier.

the president also proposes a budget. you're too stupid to know this

President can propose anything he wants. But takes congress to approve
it. How has that changed?

and right wingers ran the country for 6 of the last 8 years.

Congress has been democrat since at least 2004. When do they get
ownership? 2104?

so if obama, because he's president, is to blame for this year's
faults

Ditto Obama, he entered office with $10.5 trillion in debt and now at
$12.5 he has approved $2 trillion of debt-bailout-corruption spending.

who is to blame for the last 8?

As of inaguration, it was Obama's issue which he has done ZERO to abate
it. Just made it worse actually.

as i said...the right thinks obama's been pres for 8 years

So again, when is Obama responsible? 2108 or 2109?

But a year later, $2 trillion later, 20% rise in DC debt later,
Obama/Congress democritters have nothing to show for it but lost jobs,

?? hey genius

it took 10 years for us to get here. obama can't undo iin 1 year what
the right did to the country in 10

Didn't ask Obama to worry about Bush/Democrat congress $3 trillion over
8 years. I want to know why Obama feels the need to debt spend at more
than quadrouple the rate!

you guys...dumb as a bag of hammers

Nope, just chose to see what you wish not to.

lower wage jobs, threats of higher taxes and lots of rant about grabbing
health care moneys for government indisretions and corruption.

you guys have your socialism for the rich paid for by the middle class

Signed by a Democrat, LMAO. Bush only gave GM enough to get to
Obama...which was peanuts. So if Obama didn't agree and sponsor it, why
the hell didn't he force congress to make him do it? Bush didn't, he
ceased being the president.

Who knows, Obama could be called the founder of the new USSR. United
States Socialist Republic. Didn't work for the Russians, wonder why
lib-dimwits think it will work here? Stupid?

we already have socialism

No arguement there. Some amount is good such as K-12 and public roads.
Trouble is governmetns realy spend a lot less on common good than they
would have you believe.

you just have to be rich to get it. it's called ' moral hazard'. look
it up.

So is moral hazard the democrat justification for screwing up? Or an
excuse?

How much do we pay for intelligence in our governments? Obviously too
damned much for the return. Just another case to farm it out to
Walmart. I would vote for Walmart.

"Canuck57" wrote in message
...
On 17/01/2010 12:46 PM, bpuharic wrote:

To a liberal-democrat, they never take ownership of their problems.
Lib-dimwit Congress, not Bush controlled the budget. Go figure,
congress liked all that waste of money they supported a GOP to get it.
LMAO.

a nice little fiction from the right wing

No fiction. Conservative people tend to rely on themselves more. Let
needy. Conservatives are more likely to take ownership of the issues but
the liberals tend to ignore them easier.

the president also proposes a budget. you're too stupid to know this

President can propose anything he wants. But takes congress to approve
it. How has that changed?

and right wingers ran the country for 6 of the last 8 years.

Congress has been democrat since at least 2004. When do they get
ownership? 2104?

?? You're wrong, as usual.

http://uspolitics.about.com/od/usgov...l_calendar.htm


so if obama, because he's president, is to blame for this year's
faults

Ditto Obama, he entered office with $10.5 trillion in debt and now at
$12.5 he has approved $2 trillion of debt-bailout-corruption spending.

Nope. You're wrong again.

who is to blame for the last 8?

As of inaguration, it was Obama's issue which he has done ZERO to abate
it. Just made it worse actually.

So, no matter what Bush did, it's now all Obama's fault. Ok kook.

as i said...the right thinks obama's been pres for 8 years

So again, when is Obama responsible? 2108 or 2109?

But a year later, $2 trillion later, 20% rise in DC debt later,
Obama/Congress democritters have nothing to show for it but lost jobs,

?? hey genius

it took 10 years for us to get here. obama can't undo iin 1 year what
the right did to the country in 10

Didn't ask Obama to worry about Bush/Democrat congress $3 trillion over 8
years. I want to know why Obama feels the need to debt spend at more than
quadrouple the rate!

Probably you don't know much of anything.

you guys...dumb as a bag of hammers

Nope, just chose to see what you wish not to.

Strange lights in the sky?


lower wage jobs, threats of higher taxes and lots of rant about grabbing
health care moneys for government indisretions and corruption.

you guys have your socialism for the rich paid for by the middle class

Signed by a Democrat, LMAO. Bush only gave GM enough to get to
Obama...which was peanuts. So if Obama didn't agree and sponsor it, why
the hell didn't he force congress to make him do it? Bush didn't, he
ceased being the president.

Force Congress?? At gun point?


Who knows, Obama could be called the founder of the new USSR. United
States Socialist Republic. Didn't work for the Russians, wonder why
lib-dimwits think it will work here? Stupid?

we already have socialism

No arguement there. Some amount is good such as K-12 and public roads.
Trouble is governmetns realy spend a lot less on common good than they
would have you believe.

Fortunately, you're not here, so you don't have to worry.

you just have to be rich to get it. it's called ' moral hazard'. look
it up.

So is moral hazard the democrat justification for screwing up? Or an
excuse?

How much do we pay for intelligence in our governments? Obviously too
damned much for the return. Just another case to farm it out to Walmart.
I would vote for Walmart.

I think you should vote for WM.

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Nom=de=Plume

On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 21:33:11 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:

On 17/01/2010 12:46 PM, bpuharic wrote:

To a liberal-democrat, they never take ownership of their problems.
Lib-dimwit Congress, not Bush controlled the budget. Go figure,
congress liked all that waste of money they supported a GOP to get it.
LMAO.

a nice little fiction from the right wing

No fiction. Conservative people tend to rely on themselves more.

really? yes, i suppose all those conservative rich folks at goldman
sachs, etc. really relied on themselves when they started to tank,
didn't they. the rich would NEVER have thought of plundering the
middle class to pay for their $6000 umbrella stands.

more limbaugh kool aid.

Let
needy. Conservatives are more likely to take ownership of the issues
but the liberals tend to ignore them easier.

which is why, i suppose, conservative presidents have been the biggest
borrowers in US history


the president also proposes a budget. you're too stupid to know this

President can propose anything he wants. But takes congress to approve
it. How has that changed?

and who has to sign the budget?

oh, yes, the POTUS.


and right wingers ran the country for 6 of the last 8 years.

Congress has been democrat since at least 2004. When do they get
ownership? 2104?

when their policies have been implemented. so far the dems haven't
undone the damage the right has caused. the right preached free market
fundamentalism for 30 years. how long you think it's gonna take to
undo that damage? it's like trying to change the course of a
supertanker


so if obama, because he's president, is to blame for this year's
faults

Ditto Obama, he entered office with $10.5 trillion in debt and now at
$12.5 he has approved $2 trillion of debt-bailout-corruption spending.

to conservatives, the answer is to let unemployment go to 25%. now
that the rich are recovering, and the middle class has paid for it,
it's time to lay off the middle class.


But a year later, $2 trillion later, 20% rise in DC debt later,
Obama/Congress democritters have nothing to show for it but lost jobs,

?? hey genius

it took 10 years for us to get here. obama can't undo iin 1 year what
the right did to the country in 10

Didn't ask Obama to worry about Bush/Democrat congress $3 trillion over
8 years. I want to know why Obama feels the need to debt spend at more
than quadrouple the rate!

because if he DIDN"T we'd have 25% unemployment instead of 10%.
someone has to spend money. that's how this economy operates. if the
banks aren't lending and the consumer's not spending, who's left?

but you, of course, would just destroy the middle class now that we've
paid the bill for the rich

"bpuharic" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 17 Jan 2010 21:33:11 -0700, Canuck57
wrote:

On 17/01/2010 12:46 PM, bpuharic wrote:

To a liberal-democrat, they never take ownership of their problems.
Lib-dimwit Congress, not Bush controlled the budget. Go figure,
congress liked all that waste of money they supported a GOP to get it.
LMAO.

a nice little fiction from the right wing

No fiction. Conservative people tend to rely on themselves more.

really? yes, i suppose all those conservative rich folks at goldman
sachs, etc. really relied on themselves when they started to tank,
didn't they. the rich would NEVER have thought of plundering the
middle class to pay for their $6000 umbrella stands.

more limbaugh kool aid.

Let
needy. Conservatives are more likely to take ownership of the issues
but the liberals tend to ignore them easier.

which is why, i suppose, conservative presidents have been the biggest
borrowers in US history


the president also proposes a budget. you're too stupid to know this

President can propose anything he wants. But takes congress to approve
it. How has that changed?

and who has to sign the budget?

oh, yes, the POTUS.


and right wingers ran the country for 6 of the last 8 years.

Congress has been democrat since at least 2004. When do they get
ownership? 2104?

when their policies have been implemented. so far the dems haven't
undone the damage the right has caused. the right preached free market
fundamentalism for 30 years. how long you think it's gonna take to
undo that damage? it's like trying to change the course of a
supertanker


so if obama, because he's president, is to blame for this year's
faults

Ditto Obama, he entered office with $10.5 trillion in debt and now at
$12.5 he has approved $2 trillion of debt-bailout-corruption spending.

to conservatives, the answer is to let unemployment go to 25%. now
that the rich are recovering, and the middle class has paid for it,
it's time to lay off the middle class.


But a year later, $2 trillion later, 20% rise in DC debt later,
Obama/Congress democritters have nothing to show for it but lost jobs,

?? hey genius

it took 10 years for us to get here. obama can't undo iin 1 year what
the right did to the country in 10

Didn't ask Obama to worry about Bush/Democrat congress $3 trillion over
8 years. I want to know why Obama feels the need to debt spend at more
than quadrouple the rate!

because if he DIDN"T we'd have 25% unemployment instead of 10%.
someone has to spend money. that's how this economy operates. if the
banks aren't lending and the consumer's not spending, who's left?

but you, of course, would just destroy the middle class now that we've
paid the bill for the rich


"Beam me back aboard Scotty; there's no sign of intelligent life here."

On Jan 17, 11:44*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:
"Canuck57" wrote in message

...



On 17/01/2010 12:46 PM, bpuharic wrote:

To a liberal-democrat, they never take ownership of their problems.
Lib-dimwit Congress, not Bush controlled the budget. *Go figure,
congress liked all that waste of money they supported a GOP to get it..
LMAO.

a nice little fiction from the right wing

No fiction. *Conservative people tend to rely on themselves more. *Let
needy. *Conservatives are more likely to take ownership of the issues but
the liberals tend to ignore them easier.

the president also proposes a budget. *you're too stupid to know this

President can propose anything he wants. *But takes congress to approve
it. *How has that changed?

and right wingers ran the country for 6 of the last 8 years.

Congress has been democrat since at least 2004. *When do they get
ownership? *2104?

?? You're wrong, as usual.

http://uspolitics.about.com/od/usgov...ssional_calend...



so if obama, because he's president, is to blame for this year's
faults

Ditto Obama, he entered office with $10.5 trillion in debt and now at
$12.5 he has approved $2 trillion of debt-bailout-corruption spending.

Nope. You're wrong again.

who is to blame for the last 8?

As of inaguration, it was Obama's issue which he has done ZERO to abate
it. *Just made it worse actually.

So, no matter what Bush did, it's now all Obama's fault. Ok kook.

as i said...the right thinks obama's been pres for 8 years

So again, when is Obama responsible? *2108 or 2109?

But a year later, $2 trillion later, 20% rise in DC debt later,
Obama/Congress democritters have nothing to show for it but lost jobs,

?? hey genius

it took 10 years for us to get here. obama can't undo iin 1 year what
the right did to the country in 10

Didn't ask Obama to worry about Bush/Democrat congress $3 trillion over 8
years. *I want to know why Obama feels the need to debt spend at more than
quadrouple the rate!

Probably you don't know much of anything.

you guys...dumb as a bag of *hammers

Nope, just chose to see what you wish not to.

Strange lights in the sky?



lower wage jobs, threats of higher taxes and lots of rant about grabbing
health care moneys for government indisretions and corruption.

you guys have your socialism for the rich paid for by the middle class

Signed by a Democrat, LMAO. *Bush only gave GM enough to get to
Obama...which was peanuts. *So if Obama didn't agree and sponsor it, why
the hell didn't he force congress to make him do it? *Bush didn't, he
ceased being the president.

Force Congress?? At gun point?



Who knows, Obama could be called the founder of the new USSR. *United
States Socialist Republic. *Didn't work for the Russians, wonder why
lib-dimwits think it will work here? *Stupid?

we already have socialism

No arguement there. *Some amount is good such as K-12 and public roads.
Trouble is governmetns realy spend a lot less on common good than they
would have you believe.

Fortunately, you're not here, so you don't have to worry.

you just have to be rich to get it. it's called 'moralhazard'. look
it up.

So ismoralhazard the democrat justification for screwing up? *Or an
excuse?


--
Nom=de=Plume


Speaking of "moral hazard"

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/John_Edwa...ory?id=9680626

On Jan 28, 7:31*am, TopBassDog wrote:
On Jan 17, 11:44*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:





"Canuck57" wrote in message

...

On 17/01/2010 12:46 PM, bpuharic wrote:

To a liberal-democrat, they never take ownership of their problems.
Lib-dimwit Congress, not Bush controlled the budget. *Go figure,
congress liked all that waste of money they supported a GOP to get it.
LMAO.

a nice little fiction from the right wing

No fiction. *Conservative people tend to rely on themselves more. *Let
needy. *Conservatives are more likely to take ownership of the issues but
the liberals tend to ignore them easier.

the president also proposes a budget. *you're too stupid to know this

President can propose anything he wants. *But takes congress to approve
it. *How has that changed?

and right wingers ran the country for 6 of the last 8 years.

Congress has been democrat since at least 2004. *When do they get
ownership? *2104?

?? You're wrong, as usual.

http://uspolitics.about.com/od/usgov...ssional_calend...

so if obama, because he's president, is to blame for this year's
faults

Ditto Obama, he entered office with $10.5 trillion in debt and now at
$12.5 he has approved $2 trillion of debt-bailout-corruption spending..

Nope. You're wrong again.

who is to blame for the last 8?

As of inaguration, it was Obama's issue which he has done ZERO to abate
it. *Just made it worse actually.

So, no matter what Bush did, it's now all Obama's fault. Ok kook.

as i said...the right thinks obama's been pres for 8 years

So again, when is Obama responsible? *2108 or 2109?

But a year later, $2 trillion later, 20% rise in DC debt later,
Obama/Congress democritters have nothing to show for it but lost jobs,

?? hey genius

it took 10 years for us to get here. obama can't undo iin 1 year what
the right did to the country in 10

Didn't ask Obama to worry about Bush/Democrat congress $3 trillion over 8
years. *I want to know why Obama feels the need to debt spend at more than
quadrouple the rate!

Probably you don't know much of anything.

you guys...dumb as a bag of *hammers

Nope, just chose to see what you wish not to.

Strange lights in the sky?

lower wage jobs, threats of higher taxes and lots of rant about grabbing
health care moneys for government indisretions and corruption.

you guys have your socialism for the rich paid for by the middle class

Signed by a Democrat, LMAO. *Bush only gave GM enough to get to
Obama...which was peanuts. *So if Obama didn't agree and sponsor it, why
the hell didn't he force congress to make him do it? *Bush didn't, he
ceased being the president.

Force Congress?? At gun point?

Who knows, Obama could be called the founder of the new USSR. *United
States Socialist Republic. *Didn't work for the Russians, wonder why
lib-dimwits think it will work here? *Stupid?

we already have socialism

No arguement there. *Some amount is good such as K-12 and public roads.
Trouble is governmetns realy spend a lot less on common good than they
would have you believe.

Fortunately, you're not here, so you don't have to worry.

you just have to be rich to get it. it's called 'moralhazard'. look
it up.

So ismoralhazard the democrat justification for screwing up? *Or an
excuse?

--
Nom=de=Plume

Speaking of "moral hazard"

http://abcnews.go.com/2020/John_Edwa...s-made-sex...- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Oh, pity! Wll, at least he didn't plead guilty to toe tapping in an
air port bathroom.

*rolling eyes*