BAR wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 11:13:09 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article , naled24511
@mypacks.net says...
BAR wrote:

I will tell you now that I, as a non-union member, bargain with my
employer each year

I saw the memo...you're on the lay-off list. Your company is cutting
deadwood.

The severance package is pretty good, I would get about 6 months in jail.
I could take a few months off then go find another guy to love me. My
skills are in demand as a tooth picker. Glad I cleared that up.


Well, you could always wash the balls down at that marine golf course...
Of course, you'd be displacing herring.

In article , naled24511
@mypacks.net says...

BAR wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 11:13:09 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article , naled24511
@mypacks.net says...
BAR wrote:

I will tell you now that I, as a non-union member, bargain with my
employer each year

I saw the memo...you're on the lay-off list. Your company is cutting
deadwood.

The severance package is pretty good, I would get about 6 months in jail.
I could take a few months off then go find another guy to love me. My
skills are in demand as a tooth picker. Glad I cleared that up.


Well, you could always wash the balls down at that marine golf course...
Of course, you'd be displacing herring.

Herring can take care of the Army golf course.

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On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 02:18:04 -0500, D.Duck wrote:


Why are union members excluded until 2017? Any rational reason except
politics?

The argument goes, unions bargained for improved health care coverage,
instead of wage increases. Taxing their coverages would mean they would
be paying an overall higher percentage than other working stiffs. Labor
contracts generally run 5 years, meaning the present ones will have
expired, by 2017. Then there is politics.

The unions bargained with their employers for wages and benefits not
with the government.

Taxes are about a shared burden. Now you are trying to tell me that
union members should be excluded from paying their fair share of the tax
burden because they negotiated their wages and benefits with their
employers.

I will tell you now that I, as a non-union member, bargain with my
employer each year for wages and benefits, shouldn't I be granted the
same exemption the unions are being granted?

Did your company support Obama with millions in campaign time and
money??

On 1/16/2010 12:31 PM, I am Tosk wrote:
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On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 02:18:04 -0500, D.Duck wrote:


Why are union members excluded until 2017? Any rational reason except
politics?

The argument goes, unions bargained for improved health care coverage,
instead of wage increases. Taxing their coverages would mean they would
be paying an overall higher percentage than other working stiffs. Labor
contracts generally run 5 years, meaning the present ones will have
expired, by 2017. Then there is politics.

The unions bargained with their employers for wages and benefits not
with the government.

Taxes are about a shared burden. Now you are trying to tell me that
union members should be excluded from paying their fair share of the tax
burden because they negotiated their wages and benefits with their
employers.

I will tell you now that I, as a non-union member, bargain with my
employer each year for wages and benefits, shouldn't I be granted the
same exemption the unions are being granted?

Did your company support Obama with millions in campaign time and
money??

I, flajim, am in charge of that.

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On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 02:18:04 -0500, D.Duck wrote:


Why are union members excluded until 2017? Any rational reason except
politics?

The argument goes, unions bargained for improved health care coverage,
instead of wage increases. Taxing their coverages would mean they would
be paying an overall higher percentage than other working stiffs. Labor
contracts generally run 5 years, meaning the present ones will have
expired, by 2017. Then there is politics.

The unions bargained with their employers for wages and benefits not
with the government.

Taxes are about a shared burden. Now you are trying to tell me that
union members should be excluded from paying their fair share of the tax
burden because they negotiated their wages and benefits with their
employers.

I will tell you now that I, as a non-union member, bargain with my
employer each year for wages and benefits, shouldn't I be granted the
same exemption the unions are being granted?

Did your company support Obama with millions in campaign time and
money??

No. But we do let the government buy our products.

On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 12:30:17 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article , naled24511
says...

BAR wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 11:13:09 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article , naled24511
@mypacks.net says...
BAR wrote:

I will tell you now that I, as a non-union member, bargain with my
employer each year

I saw the memo...you're on the lay-off list. Your company is cutting
deadwood.

The severance package is pretty good, I would get about 6 months in jail.
I could take a few months off then go find another guy to love me. My
skills are in demand as a tooth picker. Glad I cleared that up.


Well, you could always wash the balls down at that marine golf course...
Of course, you'd be displacing herring.

Herring can take care of the Army golf course.

I like the Medal of Honor course better than the local Army course.
The Ft Belvoir course is too damn hard to walk.
--

John H

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says...

On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 12:30:17 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article , naled24511
says...

BAR wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 11:13:09 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article , naled24511
@mypacks.net says...
BAR wrote:

I will tell you now that I, as a non-union member, bargain with my
employer each year

I saw the memo...you're on the lay-off list. Your company is cutting
deadwood.

The severance package is pretty good, I would get about 6 months in jail.
I could take a few months off then go find another guy to love me. My
skills are in demand as a tooth picker. Glad I cleared that up.


Well, you could always wash the balls down at that marine golf course...
Of course, you'd be displacing herring.

Herring can take care of the Army golf course.

I like the Medal of Honor course better than the local Army course.
The Ft Belvoir course is too damn hard to walk.

I need to do a better job of taking my vacation, personal and floating
holidays this year. If possible I would like another crack at the MOH
course, in warmer weather.

On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 13:42:51 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 12:30:17 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article , naled24511
says...

BAR wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 11:13:09 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article , naled24511
@mypacks.net says...
BAR wrote:

I will tell you now that I, as a non-union member, bargain with my
employer each year

I saw the memo...you're on the lay-off list. Your company is cutting
deadwood.

The severance package is pretty good, I would get about 6 months in jail.
I could take a few months off then go find another guy to love me. My
skills are in demand as a tooth picker. Glad I cleared that up.


Well, you could always wash the balls down at that marine golf course...
Of course, you'd be displacing herring.

Herring can take care of the Army golf course.

I like the Medal of Honor course better than the local Army course.
The Ft Belvoir course is too damn hard to walk.

I need to do a better job of taking my vacation, personal and floating
holidays this year. If possible I would like another crack at the MOH
course, in warmer weather.

Any time you can get a day, with a few day's notice.
--

John H

On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 13:42:51 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 12:30:17 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article , naled24511
says...

BAR wrote:
On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 11:13:09 -0500, BAR wrote:

In article , naled24511
@mypacks.net says...
BAR wrote:

I will tell you now that I, as a non-union member, bargain with my
employer each year

I saw the memo...you're on the lay-off list. Your company is cutting
deadwood.

The severance package is pretty good, I would get about 6 months in jail.
I could take a few months off then go find another guy to love me. My
skills are in demand as a tooth picker. Glad I cleared that up.


Well, you could always wash the balls down at that marine golf course...
Of course, you'd be displacing herring.

Herring can take care of the Army golf course.

I like the Medal of Honor course better than the local Army course.
The Ft Belvoir course is too damn hard to walk.

I need to do a better job of taking my vacation, personal and floating
holidays this year. If possible I would like another crack at the MOH
course, in warmer weather.

And, playing in the 40's, as long as you're walking, is very
comfortable, unless the wind is bad.
--

John H

On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 02:18:04 -0500, "D.Duck" wrote:

bpuharic wrote:
On Fri, 15 Jan 2010 08:15:21 -0500, C. Mor Butts
wrote:

The Senate health care bill, which Martha Coakley supports, contains a
massive tax on the middle class which will hit union members
particularly hard. The tax on so-called "Cadillac" health plans is
opposed by organized labor, and could be a big reason why union
rank-and-file members in Massachusetts vote for Scott Brown.

actually it excludes union members.

Why are union members excluded until 2017? Any rational reason except
politics?

of course, there are no uniion members in the US so the question is
irrelevant