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![]() "nom=de=plume" wrote in message ... "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... "jps" wrote in message ... On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:07:50 -0700, Canuck57 wrote: nom=de=plume wrote: "jps" wrote in message ... Tonight at 11:15 pm EST, by a 220 to 215 vote, the House passed their version of Health Care Reform. Among the most meaningful pieces of legislation in history making it through one body of congress is a big deal. There's lots of work left but I'm damned happy a major bridge has been crossed. All you folks who hate your fellow Americans and don't think it's worth the investment have my sympathy. One lone Republican voted for it. 39 Democrats opposed. That ****es me off. Well, it's on to the Senate. I'm sure they'll do something by 2015. ![]() Lets hope they bog it down and 2010 becomes an election issue on the very point. A decision this big needs direct voting on the issue. Hell, if the majority wants government to nationalize health care, so be it. But I suspect when people take the time to read, this is a hidden tax grab. Get the cash flow to the government and then turn down survice levels while they skim the moneys. The polls are very clear in that Americans want health care reform. Haley Barbour was on Meet the Press today insisting the majority of Americans don't want health care reform. I don't know of a single poll, apart from heavy Republican districts, who are against health care reform. Lying straight faced is Republican strong suit. Yes, the people are for health care reform. Or really cheaper healthcare. But do they want the government telling them what services they can have? The government has never run anything cheaper than private industry. And ramming through a "healthcare reform" bill in a short time in the back room and then voting on it less than 3 days later, leads to those ****ED UP laws that the unintended consequences are worse than the cure. The Feds should be working on creating sustainable jobs, cutting spending and curing a depression first. ?? Most of this is total wacko stuff... but I guess you think 45K dead every year from lack of healthcare is ok. -- Nom=de=Plume They show up at any hospital and they get treated. How many of those 45k are street people that are ingesting controlled substances and sleeping in the open in rain and snow? |
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On 11/9/09 5:40 PM, Bill McKee wrote:
wrote in message ... "Bill wrote in message m... wrote in message ... On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:07:50 -0700, wrote: nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... Tonight at 11:15 pm EST, by a 220 to 215 vote, the House passed their version of Health Care Reform. Among the most meaningful pieces of legislation in history making it through one body of congress is a big deal. There's lots of work left but I'm damned happy a major bridge has been crossed. All you folks who hate your fellow Americans and don't think it's worth the investment have my sympathy. One lone Republican voted for it. 39 Democrats opposed. That ****es me off. Well, it's on to the Senate. I'm sure they'll do something by 2015. ![]() Lets hope they bog it down and 2010 becomes an election issue on the very point. A decision this big needs direct voting on the issue. Hell, if the majority wants government to nationalize health care, so be it. But I suspect when people take the time to read, this is a hidden tax grab. Get the cash flow to the government and then turn down survice levels while they skim the moneys. The polls are very clear in that Americans want health care reform. Haley Barbour was on Meet the Press today insisting the majority of Americans don't want health care reform. I don't know of a single poll, apart from heavy Republican districts, who are against health care reform. Lying straight faced is Republican strong suit. Yes, the people are for health care reform. Or really cheaper healthcare. But do they want the government telling them what services they can have? The government has never run anything cheaper than private industry. And ramming through a "healthcare reform" bill in a short time in the back room and then voting on it less than 3 days later, leads to those ****ED UP laws that the unintended consequences are worse than the cure. The Feds should be working on creating sustainable jobs, cutting spending and curing a depression first. ?? Most of this is total wacko stuff... but I guess you think 45K dead every year from lack of healthcare is ok. -- Nom=de=Plume They show up at any hospital and they get treated. That is such a crock of ****. Try getting that sort of treatment for a serious, chronic condition... Another ill-informed, right-wing asshole. |
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H the K wrote:
On 11/9/09 5:40 PM, Bill McKee wrote: wrote in message ... "Bill wrote in message m... wrote in message ... On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:07:50 -0700, wrote: nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... Tonight at 11:15 pm EST, by a 220 to 215 vote, the House passed their version of Health Care Reform. Among the most meaningful pieces of legislation in history making it through one body of congress is a big deal. There's lots of work left but I'm damned happy a major bridge has been crossed. All you folks who hate your fellow Americans and don't think it's worth the investment have my sympathy. One lone Republican voted for it. 39 Democrats opposed. That ****es me off. Well, it's on to the Senate. I'm sure they'll do something by 2015. ![]() Lets hope they bog it down and 2010 becomes an election issue on the very point. A decision this big needs direct voting on the issue. Hell, if the majority wants government to nationalize health care, so be it. But I suspect when people take the time to read, this is a hidden tax grab. Get the cash flow to the government and then turn down survice levels while they skim the moneys. The polls are very clear in that Americans want health care reform. Haley Barbour was on Meet the Press today insisting the majority of Americans don't want health care reform. I don't know of a single poll, apart from heavy Republican districts, who are against health care reform. Lying straight faced is Republican strong suit. Yes, the people are for health care reform. Or really cheaper healthcare. But do they want the government telling them what services they can have? The government has never run anything cheaper than private industry. And ramming through a "healthcare reform" bill in a short time in the back room and then voting on it less than 3 days later, leads to those ****ED UP laws that the unintended consequences are worse than the cure. The Feds should be working on creating sustainable jobs, cutting spending and curing a depression first. ?? Most of this is total wacko stuff... but I guess you think 45K dead every year from lack of healthcare is ok. -- Nom=de=Plume They show up at any hospital and they get treated. That is such a crock of ****. Try getting that sort of treatment for a serious, chronic condition... Another ill-informed, right-wing asshole. Sounds like Krausie has first hand experience with refusal of treatment for a serious chronic condition. |
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![]() "H the K" wrote in message m... On 11/9/09 5:40 PM, Bill McKee wrote: wrote in message ... "Bill wrote in message m... wrote in message ... On Sun, 08 Nov 2009 19:07:50 -0700, wrote: nom=de=plume wrote: wrote in message ... Tonight at 11:15 pm EST, by a 220 to 215 vote, the House passed their version of Health Care Reform. Among the most meaningful pieces of legislation in history making it through one body of congress is a big deal. There's lots of work left but I'm damned happy a major bridge has been crossed. All you folks who hate your fellow Americans and don't think it's worth the investment have my sympathy. One lone Republican voted for it. 39 Democrats opposed. That ****es me off. Well, it's on to the Senate. I'm sure they'll do something by 2015. ![]() Lets hope they bog it down and 2010 becomes an election issue on the very point. A decision this big needs direct voting on the issue. Hell, if the majority wants government to nationalize health care, so be it. But I suspect when people take the time to read, this is a hidden tax grab. Get the cash flow to the government and then turn down survice levels while they skim the moneys. The polls are very clear in that Americans want health care reform. Haley Barbour was on Meet the Press today insisting the majority of Americans don't want health care reform. I don't know of a single poll, apart from heavy Republican districts, who are against health care reform. Lying straight faced is Republican strong suit. Yes, the people are for health care reform. Or really cheaper healthcare. But do they want the government telling them what services they can have? The government has never run anything cheaper than private industry. And ramming through a "healthcare reform" bill in a short time in the back room and then voting on it less than 3 days later, leads to those ****ED UP laws that the unintended consequences are worse than the cure. The Feds should be working on creating sustainable jobs, cutting spending and curing a depression first. ?? Most of this is total wacko stuff... but I guess you think 45K dead every year from lack of healthcare is ok. -- Nom=de=Plume They show up at any hospital and they get treated. That is such a crock of ****. Try getting that sort of treatment for a serious, chronic condition... Another ill-informed, right-wing asshole. Maybe in Maryland. Hell a majority of the babies delivered at San Diego hospitals are illegals kids. Los Angeles spent $50 million on welfare benefits, most on illegals in just one month this year. |
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![]() "Bill McKee" wrote in message m... Maybe in Maryland. Hell a majority of the babies delivered at San Diego hospitals are illegals kids. Los Angeles spent $50 million on welfare benefits, most on illegals in just one month this year. You should be thinking of that when you're crusin' for cheap labour in those 'shape-up lines' behind Home Depot |
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On 11/10/09 10:13 AM, Don White wrote:
"Bill wrote in message m... Maybe in Maryland. Hell a majority of the babies delivered at San Diego hospitals are illegals kids. Los Angeles spent $50 million on welfare benefits, most on illegals in just one month this year. You should be thinking of that when you're crusin' for cheap labour in those 'shape-up lines' behind Home Depot Illegals' kids? Ahh...but born in the USA. Legal kids. -- If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob, or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting your time by trying to *communicate* with me through rec.boats, because, well, you are among the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster. As always, have a nice, simple-minded day. |
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![]() "H the K" wrote in message m... On 11/10/09 10:13 AM, Don White wrote: "Bill wrote in message m... Maybe in Maryland. Hell a majority of the babies delivered at San Diego hospitals are illegals kids. Los Angeles spent $50 million on welfare benefits, most on illegals in just one month this year. You should be thinking of that when you're crusin' for cheap labour in those 'shape-up lines' behind Home Depot Illegals' kids? Ahh...but born in the USA. Legal kids. And the kids should not be given legal status. |
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"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m... "H the K" wrote in message m... On 11/10/09 10:13 AM, Don White wrote: "Bill wrote in message m... Maybe in Maryland. Hell a majority of the babies delivered at San Diego hospitals are illegals kids. Los Angeles spent $50 million on welfare benefits, most on illegals in just one month this year. You should be thinking of that when you're crusin' for cheap labour in those 'shape-up lines' behind Home Depot Illegals' kids? Ahh...but born in the USA. Legal kids. And the kids should not be given legal status. If they're born in the US, their citizens. Been that way a fairly long time. ![]() -- Nom=de=Plume |
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Bill McKee wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message m... On 11/10/09 10:13 AM, Don White wrote: "Bill wrote in message m... Maybe in Maryland. Hell a majority of the babies delivered at San Diego hospitals are illegals kids. Los Angeles spent $50 million on welfare benefits, most on illegals in just one month this year. You should be thinking of that when you're crusin' for cheap labour in those 'shape-up lines' behind Home Depot Illegals' kids? Ahh...but born in the USA. Legal kids. And the kids should not be given legal status. I think it's the law. |
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On 11/10/09 4:36 PM, Bill McKee wrote:
"H the wrote in message m... On 11/10/09 10:13 AM, Don White wrote: "Bill wrote in message m... Maybe in Maryland. Hell a majority of the babies delivered at San Diego hospitals are illegals kids. Los Angeles spent $50 million on welfare benefits, most on illegals in just one month this year. You should be thinking of that when you're crusin' for cheap labour in those 'shape-up lines' behind Home Depot Illegals' kids? Ahh...but born in the USA. Legal kids. And the kids should not be given legal status. Sorry, bozo. They're born here, they're citizens. -- If you are flajim, herring, loogy, GC boater, johnson, topbassdog, rob, or one of a half dozen others, you're wasting your time by trying to *communicate* with me through rec.boats, because, well, you are among the permanent members of my dumbfoch dumpster. As always, have a nice, simple-minded day. |
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