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Bill McKee November 6th 09 05:17 AM

How about that Hope and Change...
 

"jps" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:38:10 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:30:22 -0600, wrote:

The only thing you have to offer, or care to offer, is the death of
reason. You are far too removed from it to esteem its worth.


What else would you expect from somebody who lives in the second
whitest city in the US and home of the two most odd genres of
literature around - the Bromance and Lesbian Bodice Rippers.

People who are socially isolated from the broader perspective of
"diversity" and are subject to badly written soft erotica will
naturally act odd by default.


I guarantee and would put money on the fact that I live in a more
culturally diverse neighborhood and section of town than you.

My kids go to school with kids from 23 nationalties and every religion
you could think of. Public school. Central city.


Your kids may live in diversity.



nom=de=plume November 6th 09 05:55 AM

How about that Hope and Change...
 
wrote in message
...
On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:02:53 -0600, wrote:

On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 19:26:20 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:11:04 -0800, jps wrote:

On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:56:05 -0600,
wrote:

On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:22:00 -0800, jps wrote:

snipped for relevancy

Now we're into protecting against the next guy. It's not the hostile
country, it's the hostile neighbor. We've grown small and petty.


And you don't see this in your behavior in this NG? Or in Harry's?
Your next insult will be the anecdote to affirm what you've described
of yourself above. Where does change begin?

Frankly, whateveryournameis, my disgust with the system has been
building since Reagan started this greedy bull****.

I'm plenty fed up and in no mood to be civil. If I heard a modicum of
bitching from the right while Bush and Cheney were in office and
sending this country down a ******** between tax cuts and war, I'd be
a little more flexible.

All the greedy assholes thought those tax dollars belonged to the
folks that put 'em in. Turns out they were loans from China.

Now the right wing shows up and starts bitching about spending when
it's about spending on health care and our economy. Didn't hear a
bloody peep when it was bullets, bombs and tax cuts.

So, your side hasn't much credibility (or any at all) and no standing
to talk to me about civility nor patriotism.

If I offer you civility, consider it a gift.

The only thing you have to offer, or care to offer, is the death of
reason. You are far too removed from it to esteem its worth.


I think jps has a point though. I think he's wrong to not attempt
civility,
but it's a tough road.


Civility is only tough for those that extol its virtue but deny its
exercise, Em. Personal civility is as easily attainable as is
personal charity. A victim, though, will cheat himselves of both
virtues if he languishs in that miserable role, if I may apply some
unction to it (smarmy critter that I am).


himselves = himself (I've been reading too much Tolkien :)



I haven't done that in a long time. :)

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Nom=de=Plume



Tom Francis - SWSports November 6th 09 06:26 AM

How about that Hope and Change...
 
On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:18:36 -0600, wrote:

On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:38:10 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:30:22 -0600,
wrote:

The only thing you have to offer, or care to offer, is the death of
reason. You are far too removed from it to esteem its worth.


What else would you expect from somebody who lives in the second
whitest city in the US and home of the two most odd genres of
literature around - the Bromance and Lesbian Bodice Rippers.

People who are socially isolated from the broader perspective of
"diversity" and are subject to badly written soft erotica will
naturally act odd by default.


That's a perspective I hadn't considered.

The sad story in all of this is that he shouts "murderer!" through the
prism of hostility.


One step away from going postal I suspect. The open hostility towards
different views indicates extreme isolation - akin to Charles Manson
or Ted Kaczynski. You could almost consider Seattle a compound
similar to David Koresh's Branch Davidians only with a different focal
point.

jps November 6th 09 09:19 AM

How about that Hope and Change...
 
On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 21:17:17 -0800, "Bill McKee"
wrote:


"jps" wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:38:10 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:30:22 -0600, wrote:

The only thing you have to offer, or care to offer, is the death of
reason. You are far too removed from it to esteem its worth.

What else would you expect from somebody who lives in the second
whitest city in the US and home of the two most odd genres of
literature around - the Bromance and Lesbian Bodice Rippers.

People who are socially isolated from the broader perspective of
"diversity" and are subject to badly written soft erotica will
naturally act odd by default.


I guarantee and would put money on the fact that I live in a more
culturally diverse neighborhood and section of town than you.

My kids go to school with kids from 23 nationalties and every religion
you could think of. Public school. Central city.


Your kids may live in diversity.


I know my kids friend's parents.

They're all shapes, sizes, colors, nationalities, religions.

jps November 6th 09 09:22 AM

How about that Hope and Change...
 
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 01:26:23 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:18:36 -0600, wrote:

On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:38:10 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:30:22 -0600,
wrote:

The only thing you have to offer, or care to offer, is the death of
reason. You are far too removed from it to esteem its worth.

What else would you expect from somebody who lives in the second
whitest city in the US and home of the two most odd genres of
literature around - the Bromance and Lesbian Bodice Rippers.

People who are socially isolated from the broader perspective of
"diversity" and are subject to badly written soft erotica will
naturally act odd by default.


That's a perspective I hadn't considered.

The sad story in all of this is that he shouts "murderer!" through the
prism of hostility.


One step away from going postal I suspect. The open hostility towards
different views indicates extreme isolation - akin to Charles Manson
or Ted Kaczynski. You could almost consider Seattle a compound
similar to David Koresh's Branch Davidians only with a different focal
point.


You post 5 or more OT posts a day that are purposeful rags on Obama
and climate change and you **** on Democrats and liberals in them.

Don't even start with your holier than thou bull****.

You're a player in this game so don't try to distance yourself.

Jim November 6th 09 11:07 AM

How about that Hope and Change...
 
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:57:08 -0500, Jim wrote:

Harry's chicken suit still fits him perfectly.


Now that's just going too far - insulting chickens like that.

I heard he actually went trick or treating dressed as a ballantial
chancroid.

Think about that one for a second. :)

The plum will never think of Harry in the same way again. We knew he has
a pustule problem,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but this. Who would have known? Except
for JPS, and Donnie, of course.
Think about that one for a second.

H the K[_2_] November 6th 09 11:23 AM

How about that Hope and Change...
 
On 11/6/09 4:22 AM, jps wrote:
On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 01:26:23 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:18:36 -0600, wrote:

On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:38:10 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:30:22 -0600,
wrote:

The only thing you have to offer, or care to offer, is the death of
reason. You are far too removed from it to esteem its worth.

What else would you expect from somebody who lives in the second
whitest city in the US and home of the two most odd genres of
literature around - the Bromance and Lesbian Bodice Rippers.

People who are socially isolated from the broader perspective of
"diversity" and are subject to badly written soft erotica will
naturally act odd by default.

That's a perspective I hadn't considered.

The sad story in all of this is that he shouts "murderer!" through the
prism of hostility.


One step away from going postal I suspect. The open hostility towards
different views indicates extreme isolation - akin to Charles Manson
or Ted Kaczynski. You could almost consider Seattle a compound
similar to David Koresh's Branch Davidians only with a different focal
point.


You post 5 or more OT posts a day that are purposeful rags on Obama
and climate change and you **** on Democrats and liberals in them.

Don't even start with your holier than thou bull****.

You're a player in this game so don't try to distance yourself.



Tom is just another right-wing whacko. Dime a dozen around here.

Jim November 6th 09 11:52 AM

How about that Hope and Change...
 

You post 5 or more OT posts a day that are purposeful rags on Obama
and climate change and you **** on Democrats and liberals in them.


He's doing the right thing. God bless him.

TopBassDog November 6th 09 12:29 PM

How about that Hope and Change...
 
On Nov 6, 5:23*am, H the K wrote:
On 11/6/09 4:22 AM, jps wrote:



On Fri, 06 Nov 2009 01:26:23 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
*wrote:


On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:18:36 -0600, wrote:


On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:38:10 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
*wrote:


On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:30:22 -0600, wrote:


The only thing you have to offer, or care to offer, is the death of
reason. *You are far too removed from it to esteem its worth.


What else would you expect from somebody who lives in the second
whitest city in the US and home of the two most odd genres of
literature around - the Bromance and Lesbian Bodice Rippers.


People who are socially isolated from the broader perspective of
"diversity" and are subject to badly written soft erotica will
naturally act odd by default.


That's a perspective I hadn't considered.


The sad story in all of this is that he shouts "murderer!" through the
prism of hostility.


One step away from going postal I suspect. *The open hostility towards
different views indicates extreme isolation - akin to Charles Manson
or Ted Kaczynski. *You could almost consider Seattle a compound
similar to David Koresh's Branch Davidians only with a different focal
point.


You post 5 or more OT posts a day that are purposeful rags on Obama
and climate change and you **** on Democrats and liberals in them.


Don't even start with your holier than thou bull****.


You're a player in this game so don't try to distance yourself.


Tom is just another right-wing whacko. Dime a dozen around here.


Herr Krause. Categorically speaking, where do you place yourself?

[email protected] November 6th 09 01:02 PM

How about that Hope and Change...
 
On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 21:55:55 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
.. .
On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:02:53 -0600, wrote:

On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 19:26:20 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

wrote in message
m...
On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:11:04 -0800, jps wrote:

On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:56:05 -0600,
wrote:

On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:22:00 -0800, jps wrote:

snipped for relevancy

Now we're into protecting against the next guy. It's not the hostile
country, it's the hostile neighbor. We've grown small and petty.


And you don't see this in your behavior in this NG? Or in Harry's?
Your next insult will be the anecdote to affirm what you've described
of yourself above. Where does change begin?

Frankly, whateveryournameis, my disgust with the system has been
building since Reagan started this greedy bull****.

I'm plenty fed up and in no mood to be civil. If I heard a modicum of
bitching from the right while Bush and Cheney were in office and
sending this country down a ******** between tax cuts and war, I'd be
a little more flexible.

All the greedy assholes thought those tax dollars belonged to the
folks that put 'em in. Turns out they were loans from China.

Now the right wing shows up and starts bitching about spending when
it's about spending on health care and our economy. Didn't hear a
bloody peep when it was bullets, bombs and tax cuts.

So, your side hasn't much credibility (or any at all) and no standing
to talk to me about civility nor patriotism.

If I offer you civility, consider it a gift.

The only thing you have to offer, or care to offer, is the death of
reason. You are far too removed from it to esteem its worth.


I think jps has a point though. I think he's wrong to not attempt
civility,
but it's a tough road.

Civility is only tough for those that extol its virtue but deny its
exercise, Em. Personal civility is as easily attainable as is
personal charity. A victim, though, will cheat himselves of both
virtues if he languishs in that miserable role, if I may apply some
unction to it (smarmy critter that I am).


himselves = himself (I've been reading too much Tolkien :)



I haven't done that in a long time. :)


If only I had more time to read! It seems I have to spend most of my
time earning a living...

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