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On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:38:10 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:30:22 -0600, wrote:

The only thing you have to offer, or care to offer, is the death
of
reason. You are far too removed from it to esteem its worth.

What else would you expect from somebody who lives in the second
whitest city in the US and home of the two most odd genres of
literature around - the Bromance and Lesbian Bodice Rippers.

People who are socially isolated from the broader perspective of
"diversity" and are subject to badly written soft erotica will
naturally act odd by default.

I guarantee and would put money on the fact that I live in a more
culturally diverse neighborhood and section of town than you.

My kids go to school with kids from 23 nationalties and every
religion
you could think of. Public school. Central city.

Your kids may live in diversity.

I know my kids friend's parents.

They're all shapes, sizes, colors, nationalities, religions.

Yup, and you may dislike them because of their diversity.

I'm sorry to tell you that their diversity is among the things I
enjoy
about them. It's fascinating to learn about other cultures,
lifestyles, religions. I'm sure you know this so why the bull****?

Because you lie.

God, what an asshole. Are you drunk or just stupid?

What have I lied about Bill? Screwdrivers?

Crickets, Bill. Really Bill, what have I lied about?

Were you drunk?

have not been drunk in 30 years, but you are continously drinking the
koolaid.

Did I lie to you or anyone else here?

You made a very pointed remark that I did.



yes, you do lie. You lie with regularity. Comes with being a cheerleader
for the present administration and the Democrat party. You lie that
everything Bush did was bad, everything Obama has done is good. Or if not
lies, you are extremely partisan and stupid.

How about that Hope and Change...
 

Don White wrote:
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Don White wrote:
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Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:57:08 -0500, wrote:

Harry's chicken suit still fits him perfectly.

Now that's just going too far - insulting chickens like that.

I heard he actually went trick or treating dressed as a ballantial
chancroid.

Think about that one for a second. :)

The plum will never think of Harry in the same way again. We knew he has
a
pustule problem,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but this. Who would have known? Except
for
JPS, and Donnie, of course.
Think about that one for a second.

You claim you know about an alleged "pustule problem"....... I know of no
such ailment.
What does this say about you?
"Think about that one for a second", Sailor-Boy



You don't seem to post anything but antagonistic crap. You also seem to
jump into other posts that have nothing to do with you. Got a boat,
sailor?

Rob



Show me yours first...sailor!



Don,

I have a 2008 Ranger with a 250 Merc Verado. What do you have?

Rob

How about that Hope and Change...
 

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On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 19:26:20 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:11:04 -0800, jps
wrote:

On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:56:05 -0600, wrote:

On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:22:00 -0800, jps
wrote:

snipped for relevancy

Now we're into protecting against the next guy. It's not the
hostile
country, it's the hostile neighbor. We've grown small and
petty.


And you don't see this in your behavior in this NG? Or in
Harry's?
Your next insult will be the anecdote to affirm what you've
described
of yourself above. Where does change begin?

Frankly, whateveryournameis, my disgust with the system has
been
building since Reagan started this greedy bull****.

I'm plenty fed up and in no mood to be civil. If I heard a
modicum
of
bitching from the right while Bush and Cheney were in office
and
sending this country down a ******** between tax cuts and war,
I'd
be
a little more flexible.

All the greedy assholes thought those tax dollars belonged to
the
folks that put 'em in. Turns out they were loans from China.

Now the right wing shows up and starts bitching about spending
when
it's about spending on health care and our economy. Didn't
hear
a
bloody peep when it was bullets, bombs and tax cuts.

So, your side hasn't much credibility (or any at all) and no
standing
to talk to me about civility nor patriotism.

If I offer you civility, consider it a gift.

The only thing you have to offer, or care to offer, is the
death
of
reason. You are far too removed from it to esteem its worth.


I think jps has a point though. I think he's wrong to not attempt
civility,
but it's a tough road.

Civility is only tough for those that extol its virtue but deny
its
exercise, Em. Personal civility is as easily attainable as is
personal charity. A victim, though, will cheat himselves of both
virtues if he languishs in that miserable role, if I may apply
some
unction to it (smarmy critter that I am).

himselves = himself (I've been reading too much Tolkien :)


I haven't done that in a long time. :)

If only I had more time to read! It seems I have to spend most of
my
time earning a living...


I know the feeling. I'm fortunate in that I own my own business, I
work
nearly 100% at home, and I don't have any set hours. Of course, the
latter
isn't too good if it means being up at 1am to get things ready for the
next
morning at 8 am. I like to get up early, weather permitting, and go
for
a
run, so 1am gets old fast.

Sometimes I sit in front of the computer (like now), waiting for
something
that will need a very quick response. I've done "nothing" for hours
sometimes. Then, it comes in a tidal wave. The crunch days are (right
now)
usually Thurs through Monday (not much happens on Sat., but I have to
prepare for Sunday), with stuff just trickling in the other days. As
the
holiday season approaches though, it'll expand to most of the week,
but
that's only through mid-Jan.

That's interesting, Em. Is your business service-oriented? I have
entertained the notion of pursuing some type of work-at-home option
before; but, I don't trust myself. I'm not sure I'd have the
discipline to attend to the demands that any such vocation would
require. I suspect that I would wander off into all the small
avocations that I'm always tempted to indulge, as it is (like posting
in this NG, or reading some forlorn book). I've previously owned a
manufacturing concern, and I'm personally intimate with the demands of
a small business. Generally, it requires hard work, dedication, and
interminably long hours. I have to admire you for being able to
discipline yourself to work at home.


I actually have two careers, one I'm winding down and one has been
ramping
up for a several years. My primary business right now is retail,
domestic
and international (80/20) sales of used mid- to high-end designer
clothes
(mostly for women and teens, but I don't descriminate against Martians).
The
one I'm winding down is actually in a large part because of the demands
of
customers 24/7 (it seems sometimes), who don't have a clue, and having
to
deal with the US PTO nitpicky requirements. I used to enjoy the latter,
but
I'm burned out. It's a strange and I think unlikely career change for
me...
think aggressive coffee drinker to laid-back shopper.

Patent, Trademark office?


Yup... shocking isn't it.

Doing research? Filing for patents? It's certainly painstaking work
and a long process.


Yes and yes. A full service operation, mostly for high tech companies, but
sometimes individuals.

--
Nom=de=Plume

How about that Hope and Change...
 

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"jps" wrote in message
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On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 22:38:10 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:30:22 -0600, wrote:

The only thing you have to offer, or care to offer, is the death
of
reason. You are far too removed from it to esteem its worth.

What else would you expect from somebody who lives in the second
whitest city in the US and home of the two most odd genres of
literature around - the Bromance and Lesbian Bodice Rippers.

People who are socially isolated from the broader perspective of
"diversity" and are subject to badly written soft erotica will
naturally act odd by default.

I guarantee and would put money on the fact that I live in a more
culturally diverse neighborhood and section of town than you.

My kids go to school with kids from 23 nationalties and every
religion
you could think of. Public school. Central city.

Your kids may live in diversity.

I know my kids friend's parents.

They're all shapes, sizes, colors, nationalities, religions.

Yup, and you may dislike them because of their diversity.

I'm sorry to tell you that their diversity is among the things I
enjoy
about them. It's fascinating to learn about other cultures,
lifestyles, religions. I'm sure you know this so why the bull****?

Because you lie.

God, what an asshole. Are you drunk or just stupid?

What have I lied about Bill? Screwdrivers?

Crickets, Bill. Really Bill, what have I lied about?

Were you drunk?

have not been drunk in 30 years, but you are continously drinking the
koolaid.

Did I lie to you or anyone else here?

You made a very pointed remark that I did.



yes, you do lie. You lie with regularity. Comes with being a cheerleader
for the present administration and the Democrat party. You lie that
everything Bush did was bad, everything Obama has done is good. Or if not
lies, you are extremely partisan and stupid.


You are a simple fool. We have different ideologies. You believe one
thing, I believe another. I don't think you're lying when you spew
your stupidity.

Perhaps you need to look up the definition of lie. Maybe get a grip.

How about that Hope and Change...
 

On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 21:27:51 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
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On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 16:54:01 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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"jps" wrote in message
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On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 10:35:26 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 10:40:39 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 21:55:55 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
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On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 19:26:20 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

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On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 18:11:04 -0800, jps
wrote:

On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:56:05 -0600, wrote:

On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:22:00 -0800, jps
wrote:

snipped for relevancy

Now we're into protecting against the next guy. It's not the
hostile
country, it's the hostile neighbor. We've grown small and
petty.


And you don't see this in your behavior in this NG? Or in
Harry's?
Your next insult will be the anecdote to affirm what you've
described
of yourself above. Where does change begin?

Frankly, whateveryournameis, my disgust with the system has
been
building since Reagan started this greedy bull****.

I'm plenty fed up and in no mood to be civil. If I heard a
modicum
of
bitching from the right while Bush and Cheney were in office
and
sending this country down a ******** between tax cuts and war,
I'd
be
a little more flexible.

All the greedy assholes thought those tax dollars belonged to
the
folks that put 'em in. Turns out they were loans from China.

Now the right wing shows up and starts bitching about spending
when
it's about spending on health care and our economy. Didn't
hear
a
bloody peep when it was bullets, bombs and tax cuts.

So, your side hasn't much credibility (or any at all) and no
standing
to talk to me about civility nor patriotism.

If I offer you civility, consider it a gift.

The only thing you have to offer, or care to offer, is the
death
of
reason. You are far too removed from it to esteem its worth.


I think jps has a point though. I think he's wrong to not attempt
civility,
but it's a tough road.

Civility is only tough for those that extol its virtue but deny
its
exercise, Em. Personal civility is as easily attainable as is
personal charity. A victim, though, will cheat himselves of both
virtues if he languishs in that miserable role, if I may apply
some
unction to it (smarmy critter that I am).

himselves = himself (I've been reading too much Tolkien :)


I haven't done that in a long time. :)

If only I had more time to read! It seems I have to spend most of
my
time earning a living...


I know the feeling. I'm fortunate in that I own my own business, I
work
nearly 100% at home, and I don't have any set hours. Of course, the
latter
isn't too good if it means being up at 1am to get things ready for the
next
morning at 8 am. I like to get up early, weather permitting, and go
for
a
run, so 1am gets old fast.

Sometimes I sit in front of the computer (like now), waiting for
something
that will need a very quick response. I've done "nothing" for hours
sometimes. Then, it comes in a tidal wave. The crunch days are (right
now)
usually Thurs through Monday (not much happens on Sat., but I have to
prepare for Sunday), with stuff just trickling in the other days. As
the
holiday season approaches though, it'll expand to most of the week,
but
that's only through mid-Jan.

That's interesting, Em. Is your business service-oriented? I have
entertained the notion of pursuing some type of work-at-home option
before; but, I don't trust myself. I'm not sure I'd have the
discipline to attend to the demands that any such vocation would
require. I suspect that I would wander off into all the small
avocations that I'm always tempted to indulge, as it is (like posting
in this NG, or reading some forlorn book). I've previously owned a
manufacturing concern, and I'm personally intimate with the demands of
a small business. Generally, it requires hard work, dedication, and
interminably long hours. I have to admire you for being able to
discipline yourself to work at home.


I actually have two careers, one I'm winding down and one has been
ramping
up for a several years. My primary business right now is retail,
domestic
and international (80/20) sales of used mid- to high-end designer
clothes
(mostly for women and teens, but I don't descriminate against Martians).
The
one I'm winding down is actually in a large part because of the demands
of
customers 24/7 (it seems sometimes), who don't have a clue, and having
to
deal with the US PTO nitpicky requirements. I used to enjoy the latter,
but
I'm burned out. It's a strange and I think unlikely career change for
me...
think aggressive coffee drinker to laid-back shopper.

Patent, Trademark office?


Yup... shocking isn't it.

Doing research? Filing for patents? It's certainly painstaking work
and a long process.


Yes and yes. A full service operation, mostly for high tech companies, but
sometimes individuals.

Yikes, you have my deep condolences and respect.

How about that Hope and Change...
 

On Sat, 07 Nov 2009 23:00:30 -0500, Rob wrote:

Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:57:08 -0500, wrote:

Harry's chicken suit still fits him perfectly.

Now that's just going too far - insulting chickens like that.

I heard he actually went trick or treating dressed as a ballantial
chancroid.

Think about that one for a second. :)

The plum will never think of Harry in the same way again. We knew he has
a
pustule problem,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but this. Who would have known? Except
for
JPS, and Donnie, of course.
Think about that one for a second.

You claim you know about an alleged "pustule problem"....... I know of no
such ailment.
What does this say about you?
"Think about that one for a second", Sailor-Boy



You don't seem to post anything but antagonistic crap. You also seem to
jump into other posts that have nothing to do with you. Got a boat,
sailor?

Rob



Show me yours first...sailor!



Don,

I have a 2008 Ranger with a 250 Merc Verado. What do you have?

Rob

Rob, are you in northern Virginia? I saw one of those the other day.

How about that Hope and Change...
 

"Rob" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...
Don White wrote:
wrote in message
...
Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 21:57:08 -0500, wrote:

Harry's chicken suit still fits him perfectly.

Now that's just going too far - insulting chickens like that.

I heard he actually went trick or treating dressed as a ballantial
chancroid.

Think about that one for a second. :)

The plum will never think of Harry in the same way again. We knew he
has
a
pustule problem,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but this. Who would have known? Except
for
JPS, and Donnie, of course.
Think about that one for a second.

You claim you know about an alleged "pustule problem"....... I know of
no
such ailment.
What does this say about you?
"Think about that one for a second", Sailor-Boy



You don't seem to post anything but antagonistic crap. You also seem to
jump into other posts that have nothing to do with you. Got a boat,
sailor?

Rob



Show me yours first...sailor!



Don,

I have a 2008 Ranger with a 250 Merc Verado. What do you have?

Rob

Talk is cheap...I said "show me".

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In article ,
says...
Please tell the chronically unemployed that I was bright enough to have a 32
year career serving my country in a Crown Corporation.
What's the longest position he has ever held....(unemployed doesn't count)

You were a government clerk.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crown_c...ions_of_Canada

"Canadian Crown corporations are state-owned enterprises within either
the federal or provincial and territorial jurisdictions of Canada. Crown
corporations have a long standing presence in the country and have been
instrumental in the formation of the state. As they are presently
involved in everything from the distribution, use, and price of certain
goods and services, to energy development, resource extraction, public
transportation, cultural promotion, and property management, Crown
corporations remain prevalent in Canada."

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On 11/8/09 9:15 AM, BAR wrote:
In ,
says...
Please tell the chronically unemployed that I was bright enough to have a 32
year career serving my country in a Crown Corporation.
What's the longest position he has ever held....(unemployed doesn't count)

You were a government clerk.


Pretty funny...you're a go-fer at a tech company and you are whining
about what you think someone else's job was.

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"BAR" wrote in message
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In article ,
says...
Please tell the chronically unemployed that I was bright enough to have a
32
year career serving my country in a Crown Corporation.
What's the longest position he has ever held....(unemployed doesn't
count)

You were a government clerk.


Was I now??