How about that Hope and Change...
 

On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:44:45 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"jps" wrote in message
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On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:31:04 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Tom Francis - SWSports" wrote in
message ...
"New York City health officials scrambled to explain themselves on
Thursday following outraged media reports about bankers who got scarce
H1N1 flu vaccines through their employers.

Members of Congress fired off letters demanding immediate explanations
and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reminded state
and city health officers of the need to make sure the most vulnerable
people get shots first."

"....16 of the city's 25 biggest employers had vaccine, including
Columbia University, Citi Group and others, as well as the Federal
Reserve Bank, which is not among the top 25 employers."

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsO...5A44QI20091105

A report on CNBC today indicated that - heh, who would have figured
this - that Goldman Sachs executives and high level employees got
their swine flu shots almost as soon as the vaccine was released.

CITIgroup was another beneficiary of Hope and Change.

Kathleen Sebelius is incompetent and should be fired immediately.
She's in charge and she blew it.

The best part? All that vaccine that's supposed to come online in
December?

It's behind schedule by 30 days.

~~ snerk ~~


You sound like an extraordinary optimist. It's nice to know that your
expectations of Obama and all the 1000s of employees are so high that you
would expect, nay demand, that on the day after inauguration day all of
the
problems with gov't would be solved. I'm a pretty optimistic person, but
you
really have me beat!

But, I have hope that some day, I'll be as optimistic as you...

I had the expectation that once Bush got in office, things would get
worse. He never disappointed me.


Honestly, I was dismayed when Bush took office, but the economy was humming
along, and since he was mostly on vacation, I figured it wouldn't be too
bad. Sure, some social programs would be gutted, but then people would wise
up and vote him out in four years.

Then 9/11 came, and he seemed to be hitting the right mark. Then, it all
went off the tracks when the Iraq invasion was being pushed. Several of my
friends said he was lying, but I said I didn't think so, even though I
thought the weapons inspectors should have been given more time. I remember
Rice talking about the "mushroom cloud" scenario. We were all still jittery
after the bombings. I didn't believe he or Cheney would lie about something
like WMDs, and everyone thought Saddam was a very bad customer. I was even
more convinced when Powell sat in front of the UN and made the claims he
did.

Then, as the first few months passed, the lies became transparent, obvious.
It all went down hill from there. But, I was still hopeful that the American
people would figure it out, esp. with Kerry, a true war hero running. We
know what happened then. More filthy lies and more eroding of our civil
liberties. Now Obama is trying to undo some of Bush's crap, including the
economic mess. It's going to take a while, and I give him latitude to try.

Others clearly are not interested in that. Fear-bases strategies are very
effective. We need to be vigilant. We saw what happened the last time we let
down our guard.

I think half our guard is on permanent vacation. Between religion, a
bad case of affluenza, rich getting richer, poor getting poorer, the
middle class under assault, civics no longer a part of our society,
fear-based politics, divisive issues... we have lost track of the
ball. We don't know if we're on offense or defense, what the rules
are, what we stand for, what we need to protect, what we should try to
affect and what's beyond our means. Washington is a cesspool of
scheming and greed.

The latest thing to capture our imagination is recovering from Bush
and Cheney.

It's not a very exciting endeavor to recover but it's worth the
investment. It's worth investing in our own infrastructure instead of
destroying someone else's and paying to rebuild their country.

What happened to being interested in the welfare of our country?

Did it die after WWII? Is that the last time we were really
threatened and needed to pull together? I think we're lost. We've
lost touch with our values, ideals, goals.

Now we're into protecting against the next guy. It's not the hostile
country, it's the hostile neighbor. We've grown small and petty.

Look at the fight we're having over health care. People are angrier
about this than sending our troops into harms way for no good
reason???

We have a chance to focus on what's next but we're having to overcome
the inertia of Bush, wars, state-side spying, a devisive election,
etc. I hope we find our focus and a way to rebuild. This is a
frightening time, not based on the fear they're trying to sell.

How about that Hope and Change...
 

"John H." wrote in message
...
On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:09:54 -0500, H the K
wrote:

On 11/5/09 4:01 PM, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
"New York City health officials scrambled to explain themselves on
Thursday following outraged media reports about bankers who got scarce
H1N1 flu vaccines through their employers.

Members of Congress fired off letters demanding immediate explanations
and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reminded state
and city health officers of the need to make sure the most vulnerable
people get shots first."

"....16 of the city's 25 biggest employers had vaccine, including
Columbia University, Citi Group and others, as well as the Federal
Reserve Bank, which is not among the top 25 employers."
and Change.

Kathleen Sebelius is incompetent and should be fired immediately.
She's in charge and she blew it.


This from a yahoo whose highest achievement in life was a stint in the
marines?

snerk

Harry, you'll get approval from nomdeplum, Don, and jps for this post.
I will give you my monthly reply, and I'm sure it will make your day.
Even though I'm not a believer in name-calling, I have to say that
this post of yours shows that:

You are a total, ****ing waste.
--
Loogy says:

Conservative = Good
Liberal = Bad

I agree. John H


So..here you go, being an ass again Johnny.
Unlike you and your Drone Army we sometimes have differing opinions.

How about that Hope and Change...
 

On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:35:51 -0800, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"Jack" wrote in message
...
On Nov 5, 5:47 pm, Jim wrote:
H the K wrote:
On 11/5/09 5:31 PM, nom=de=plume wrote:
"Tom Francis - wrote in
messagenews:doe6f5tljbs8rao50bdljhb52b7m45ot2b@4ax .com...
"New York City health officials scrambled to explain themselves on
Thursday following outraged media reports about bankers who got scarce
H1N1 flu vaccines through their employers.

Members of Congress fired off letters demanding immediate explanations
and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reminded state
and city health officers of the need to make sure the most vulnerable
people get shots first."

"....16 of the city's 25 biggest employers had vaccine, including
Columbia University, Citi Group and others, as well as the Federal
Reserve Bank, which is not among the top 25 employers."

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsO...5A44QI20091105

A report on CNBC today indicated that - heh, who would have figured
this - that Goldman Sachs executives and high level employees got
their swine flu shots almost as soon as the vaccine was released.

CITIgroup was another beneficiary of Hope and Change.

Kathleen Sebelius is incompetent and should be fired immediately.
She's in charge and she blew it.

The best part? All that vaccine that's supposed to come online in
December?

It's behind schedule by 30 days.

~~ snerk ~~

You sound like an extraordinary optimist. It's nice to know that your
expectations of Obama and all the 1000s of employees are so high that
you
would expect, nay demand, that on the day after inauguration day all
of the
problems with gov't would be solved. I'm a pretty optimistic person,
but you
really have me beat!

But, I have hope that some day, I'll be as optimistic as you...

It comes from the bang-up job Tom did while with the marines in vietnam.
You know, the earlier war we shouldn't have gotten into...and lost. Tom
and his pack of mustered out old farts think they won there, and even
thought 1,000,000 vietnamese died, it was "worth it."

Are you slipping the bimbette drugs. Better be careful. She might be a
minor.

It's funny how BO was given credit for directing the operation to
shoot those pirates, and he had no trouble funneling nearly a trillion
bucks to his buddies, but now he can't even handle the flu, and that's
OK with the liberals.

These koolaid drinking lefties are some big-time idiots, huh?


I didn't realize the Roch was controlled by President Obama. Thanks for the
update!

That little bit of intelligence was courtesy of Jack Goff.

Properly named.

How about that Hope and Change...
 

On 11/5/09 8:22 PM, Don White wrote:
"John wrote in message
...
On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 16:09:54 -0500, H the K
wrote:

On 11/5/09 4:01 PM, Tom Francis - SWSports wrote:
"New York City health officials scrambled to explain themselves on
Thursday following outraged media reports about bankers who got scarce
H1N1 flu vaccines through their employers.

Members of Congress fired off letters demanding immediate explanations
and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention reminded state
and city health officers of the need to make sure the most vulnerable
people get shots first."

"....16 of the city's 25 biggest employers had vaccine, including
Columbia University, Citi Group and others, as well as the Federal
Reserve Bank, which is not among the top 25 employers."
and Change.

Kathleen Sebelius is incompetent and should be fired immediately.
She's in charge and she blew it.


This from a yahoo whose highest achievement in life was a stint in the
marines?

snerk

Harry, you'll get approval from nomdeplum, Don, and jps for this post.
I will give you my monthly reply, and I'm sure it will make your day.
Even though I'm not a believer in name-calling, I have to say that
this post of yours shows that:

You are a total, ****ing waste.
--
Loogy says:

Conservative = Good
Liberal = Bad

I agree. John H


So..here you go, being an ass again Johnny.
Unlike you and your Drone Army we sometimes have differing opinions.




When an indisputable p.o.s like herring insults you, it's all good.

How about that Hope and Change...
 

On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:09:47 -0800 (PST), Jack
wrote:

These koolaid drinking lefties are some big-time idiots, huh?

Nah - it's hard for some of our righteous lefties to think if only
because their brain pans are filled with hot bubble gum fondue instead
of brain matter.

You have to feel sorry for them.

How about that Hope and Change...
 

On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:25:12 -0500, John H.
wrote:

You are a total, ****ing waste.

He has the mental acuity of a prostate tumor that has accidentally
achieved low level sentience by ingesting a hundred tabs of LSD at
once.

How about that Hope and Change...
 

On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:39:27 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:25:12 -0500, John H.
wrote:

You are a total, ****ing waste.

He has the mental acuity of a prostate tumor that has accidentally
achieved low level sentience by ingesting a hundred tabs of LSD at
once.

Ok, that wasn't fair. What is really going on is that he is shamed by
his inability to understand the narrative - he keeps at the
contextual strands until the strands become cracks which become chasms
which become an abyss into which he stares until it bares his dark
heart and blackened soul driving him into insanity of the worst kind
in recognition of his status as a worthless social parasite gaining
sustinence out of the garbage pails and dumpsters of Mother Union.

I mean it's either that or his adult diaper is full and he's too lazy
to change it.

Nah - I was right the first time.

How about that Hope and Change...
 

On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:22:00 -0800, jps wrote:

snipped for relevancy

Now we're into protecting against the next guy. It's not the hostile
country, it's the hostile neighbor. We've grown small and petty.


And you don't see this in your behavior in this NG? Or in Harry's?
Your next insult will be the anecdote to affirm what you've described
of yourself above. Where does change begin?

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How about that Hope and Change...
 

On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 19:56:05 -0600, wrote:

On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 17:22:00 -0800, jps wrote:

snipped for relevancy

Now we're into protecting against the next guy. It's not the hostile
country, it's the hostile neighbor. We've grown small and petty.


And you don't see this in your behavior in this NG? Or in Harry's?
Your next insult will be the anecdote to affirm what you've described
of yourself above. Where does change begin?

Frankly, whateveryournameis, my disgust with the system has been
building since Reagan started this greedy bull****.

I'm plenty fed up and in no mood to be civil. If I heard a modicum of
bitching from the right while Bush and Cheney were in office and
sending this country down a ******** between tax cuts and war, I'd be
a little more flexible.

All the greedy assholes thought those tax dollars belonged to the
folks that put 'em in. Turns out they were loans from China.

Now the right wing shows up and starts bitching about spending when
it's about spending on health care and our economy. Didn't hear a
bloody peep when it was bullets, bombs and tax cuts.

So, your side hasn't much credibility (or any at all) and no standing
to talk to me about civility nor patriotism.

If I offer you civility, consider it a gift.

How about that Hope and Change...
 

On Thu, 05 Nov 2009 20:35:03 -0500, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 16:09:47 -0800 (PST), Jack
wrote:

These koolaid drinking lefties are some big-time idiots, huh?

Nah - it's hard for some of our righteous lefties to think if only
because their brain pans are filled with hot bubble gum fondue instead
of brain matter.

You have to feel sorry for them.

You don't have to, nor do you. So WTF are you talking about?