Jim wrote:
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m...
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
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"JohnH" wrote in message
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...will last until the union or the government figures out a way to
stop it.

" Ford is also running into resistance from its unionized work force
as it tries to cut costs further.

Its improving fortunes were the main reason cited by the United
Automobile Workers on Monday for rejecting another round of labor
concessions that would have roughly matched concessions that workers
at Chrysler and General Motors approved in the spring."

The U.A.W.'s president, Ron Gettelfinger, and its vice president in
charge of the Ford unit, Bob King, said in a statement that the
carmaker's third-quarter profit was "evidence of the contributions
that Ford workers have made.""

http://tinyurl.com/ya4pyay

Why should they cave to demands from management? How about producing
decent products that people want to buy?

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They are decent products. But if you are paying some low skilled
laborer excess money, then the decent product is priced out of the
market.

Then, when the contract expires the company should seek to
renegotiate. It takes two parties to make a contract. If there's good
management in place, then the union members will feel better about
consessions.

There's another option. Ford can tell the unions to **** off.

If it were only that simple...

-S

"Stevie" wrote in message
...
Jim wrote:
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Bill McKee" wrote in message
m...
"nom=de=plume" wrote in message
...
"JohnH" wrote in message
...
...will last until the union or the government figures out a way to
stop it.

" Ford is also running into resistance from its unionized work force
as it tries to cut costs further.

Its improving fortunes were the main reason cited by the United
Automobile Workers on Monday for rejecting another round of labor
concessions that would have roughly matched concessions that workers
at Chrysler and General Motors approved in the spring."

The U.A.W.'s president, Ron Gettelfinger, and its vice president in
charge of the Ford unit, Bob King, said in a statement that the
carmaker's third-quarter profit was "evidence of the contributions
that Ford workers have made.""

http://tinyurl.com/ya4pyay

Why should they cave to demands from management? How about producing
decent products that people want to buy?

--
Nom=de=Plume

They are decent products. But if you are paying some low skilled
laborer excess money, then the decent product is priced out of the
market.

Then, when the contract expires the company should seek to
renegotiate. It takes two parties to make a contract. If there's good
management in place, then the union members will feel better about
consessions.

There's another option. Ford can tell the unions to **** off.

If it were only that simple...

-S


That's a perfectly valid thing to do, as long as you accept the
consequences.


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nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
Jim wrote:
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Bill wrote in message
m...
wrote in message
...
wrote in message
...
...will last until the union or the government figures out a way to
stop it.

" Ford is also running into resistance from its unionized work force
as it tries to cut costs further.

Its improving fortunes were the main reason cited by the United
Automobile Workers on Monday for rejecting another round of labor
concessions that would have roughly matched concessions that workers
at Chrysler and General Motors approved in the spring."

The U.A.W.'s president, Ron Gettelfinger, and its vice president in
charge of the Ford unit, Bob King, said in a statement that the
carmaker's third-quarter profit was "evidence of the contributions
that Ford workers have made.""

http://tinyurl.com/ya4pyay

Why should they cave to demands from management? How about producing
decent products that people want to buy?

--
Nom=de=Plume

They are decent products. But if you are paying some low skilled
laborer excess money, then the decent product is priced out of the
market.

Then, when the contract expires the company should seek to
renegotiate. It takes two parties to make a contract. If there's good
management in place, then the union members will feel better about
consessions.

There's another option. Ford can tell the unions to **** off.

If it were only that simple...

-S


That's a perfectly valid thing to do, as long as you accept the
consequences.



Do you think the automakers would have invested so heavily in robots if
they could get people to *work* at a decent wage without all of the
over-the-top entitlements?

-S

"Stevie" wrote in message
...
nom=de=plume wrote:
wrote in message
...
Jim wrote:
nom=de=plume wrote:
"Bill wrote in message
m...
wrote in message
...
wrote in message
...
...will last until the union or the government figures out a way to
stop it.

" Ford is also running into resistance from its unionized work
force
as it tries to cut costs further.

Its improving fortunes were the main reason cited by the United
Automobile Workers on Monday for rejecting another round of labor
concessions that would have roughly matched concessions that
workers
at Chrysler and General Motors approved in the spring."

The U.A.W.'s president, Ron Gettelfinger, and its vice president in
charge of the Ford unit, Bob King, said in a statement that the
carmaker's third-quarter profit was "evidence of the contributions
that Ford workers have made.""

http://tinyurl.com/ya4pyay

Why should they cave to demands from management? How about producing
decent products that people want to buy?

--
Nom=de=Plume

They are decent products. But if you are paying some low skilled
laborer excess money, then the decent product is priced out of the
market.

Then, when the contract expires the company should seek to
renegotiate. It takes two parties to make a contract. If there's good
management in place, then the union members will feel better about
consessions.

There's another option. Ford can tell the unions to **** off.

If it were only that simple...

-S


That's a perfectly valid thing to do, as long as you accept the
consequences.



Do you think the automakers would have invested so heavily in robots if
they could get people to *work* at a decent wage without all of the
over-the-top entitlements?

-S


Robots used in car manufacture are *better* than employees. They're also
cheaper in the long run. However, there are some things that humans are
better at. Those positions are becoming fewer and fewer in car manufacture,
certainly. If all workers at a plant could be replaced by robots, the
manufacturer would lock out the union and use robots. There are many
companies that pretty much use robots to a great extent in the manufacture
of their products. They're not just car companies.

Here's an article for you...
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/biztech...15eerobots.htm

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