On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 13:49:23 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

The biggest risk to open boats is swamping and capsize. That can
happen right at the dock in storm conditions.

I think I'll give up on the patch kit idea for a while.
No real interest, since the chance of needing it is slight.
Now, anti-capsize. That's interesting.

Time to start talking about inflatable amas deploying from
the gunnels in swamp/capsize situations.
And manual bailing methods when batteries are wet.

Manual bailing is easy. One gallon plastic jugs with the bottom cut
out work very well.

Automatically deployable amas may take a little more engineering.
:-)

One thing I've sometimes seen on Whalers and Carolina Skiffs is to
ring the boat with fair sized inflatable fenders. This is usually
done on boats that are being used as tenders or for sailing
instruction but it might provide a useful increase in flotation and
capsize resistance for any boat.

On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 18:06:27 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 13:49:23 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

The biggest risk to open boats is swamping and capsize. That can
happen right at the dock in storm conditions.

I think I'll give up on the patch kit idea for a while.
No real interest, since the chance of needing it is slight.
Now, anti-capsize. That's interesting.

Time to start talking about inflatable amas deploying from
the gunnels in swamp/capsize situations.
And manual bailing methods when batteries are wet.

Manual bailing is easy. One gallon plastic jugs with the bottom cut
out work very well.

Automatically deployable amas may take a little more engineering.
:-)

One thing I've sometimes seen on Whalers and Carolina Skiffs is to
ring the boat with fair sized inflatable fenders. This is usually
done on boats that are being used as tenders or for sailing
instruction but it might provide a useful increase in flotation and
capsize resistance for any boat.

There you go. Might just tie inner tubes to the sides my skiff.
Just have to careful with the fishing hooks and gaff.

--Vic

On 10/17/09 6:42 PM, Vic Smith wrote:
On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 18:06:27 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 13:49:23 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

The biggest risk to open boats is swamping and capsize. That can
happen right at the dock in storm conditions.

I think I'll give up on the patch kit idea for a while.
No real interest, since the chance of needing it is slight.
Now, anti-capsize. That's interesting.

Time to start talking about inflatable amas deploying from
the gunnels in swamp/capsize situations.
And manual bailing methods when batteries are wet.

Manual bailing is easy. One gallon plastic jugs with the bottom cut
out work very well.

Automatically deployable amas may take a little more engineering.
:-)

One thing I've sometimes seen on Whalers and Carolina Skiffs is to
ring the boat with fair sized inflatable fenders. This is usually
done on boats that are being used as tenders or for sailing
instruction but it might provide a useful increase in flotation and
capsize resistance for any boat.

There you go. Might just tie inner tubes to the sides my skiff.
Just have to careful with the fishing hooks and gaff.

--Vic



Contact the surf rescue guys at the St. Johns, Florida rescue
department...the ones who yank idiots out of the inlets. They have or
had a Carolina skiff with large openings cut in the sides to pull aboard
fatigued swimmers. I don't recall that boat ever swamping or turning
turtle. Might be the fire department that has jurisdiction...

--
http://tinyurl.com/ykaa4k7

On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 18:47:44 -0400, H the K
wrote:


Contact the surf rescue guys at the St. Johns, Florida rescue
department...the ones who yank idiots out of the inlets. They have or
had a Carolina skiff with large openings cut in the sides to pull aboard
fatigued swimmers. I don't recall that boat ever swamping or turning
turtle. Might be the fire department that has jurisdiction...

Those DLX models are wide beam and very stable. Probably less prone
to capsize than v-hulls.

--Vic

"Vic Smith" wrote in message
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On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 18:06:27 -0400, Wayne.B
wrote:

On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 13:49:23 -0500, Vic Smith
wrote:

The biggest risk to open boats is swamping and capsize. That can
happen right at the dock in storm conditions.

I think I'll give up on the patch kit idea for a while.
No real interest, since the chance of needing it is slight.
Now, anti-capsize. That's interesting.

Time to start talking about inflatable amas deploying from
the gunnels in swamp/capsize situations.
And manual bailing methods when batteries are wet.

Manual bailing is easy. One gallon plastic jugs with the bottom cut
out work very well.

Automatically deployable amas may take a little more engineering.
:-)

One thing I've sometimes seen on Whalers and Carolina Skiffs is to
ring the boat with fair sized inflatable fenders. This is usually
done on boats that are being used as tenders or for sailing
instruction but it might provide a useful increase in flotation and
capsize resistance for any boat.

There you go. Might just tie inner tubes to the sides my skiff.
Just have to careful with the fishing hooks and gaff.

--Vic

Have you sen the Walker Bay boat option?
http://www.walkerbay.com/products/ri...ghy/index.html
At first I think the inflatable portion was added to the stock boats... but
it may be different now.

On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 20:25:06 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:




Have you sen the Walker Bay boat option?
http://www.walkerbay.com/products/ri...ghy/index.html
At first I think the inflatable portion was added to the stock boats... but
it may be different now.

Don't know much about dinghies, but those look good.

--Vic

In article ,
says...

On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 20:25:06 -0300, "Don White"
wrote:




Have you sen the Walker Bay boat option?
http://www.walkerbay.com/products/ri...ghy/index.html
At first I think the inflatable portion was added to the stock boats... but
it may be different now.

Don't know much about dinghies, but those look good.

--Vic

Yeah, but the inflatable ring only serves to take space. The boat would
be just as stable with a hard ring not inflated... The distance from
center is what counts, not what it's filled or not filled with...

On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:55:46 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:53:50 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

They built a wire frame sail boat out of duct tape. Including the
sail, rudder and keel.

Damn thing actually sailed pretty good. :)

It's looked like the old Town Class racing series boat.

Looked like it sailed pretty well too.


I was more impressed by the duct tape cannon.
I made a 8x16 raft for the Wash DC raft race floating on visqueen and
garbage bags.
8 people partied all day, then got towed in at a pretty good clip.

When is that held? I've never heard of it, in all the years I've been
in and out of here. 'Course, they coulda stopped it.

On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 23:42:57 -0400, wrote:

On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 18:27:50 -0400, John H.
wrote:

On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 21:55:46 -0400, wrote:

On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 08:53:50 -0400, Tom Francis - SWSports
wrote:

They built a wire frame sail boat out of duct tape. Including the
sail, rudder and keel.

Damn thing actually sailed pretty good. :)

It's looked like the old Town Class racing series boat.

Looked like it sailed pretty well too.


I was more impressed by the duct tape cannon.
I made a 8x16 raft for the Wash DC raft race floating on visqueen and
garbage bags.
8 people partied all day, then got towed in at a pretty good clip.

When is that held? I've never heard of it, in all the years I've been
in and out of here. 'Course, they coulda stopped it.


I was at the 1980 and the 1981 WPGC (radio) Rambling Raft Race.
This is some pix from the 81 outing.

We did the final assembly on a side street near the venue
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/loading%20bags%20in%20raft.jpg

After we got the bags stacked in the frame we covered it with VisQueen
stapled well all around. The Marines flipped it over and tossed it in
the river.

This is our raft and a smaller one in the background with similar
construction being loaded

http://gfretwell.com/ftp/on%20the%20raft.jpg

Of course we needed food on the raft
http://gfretwell.com/ftp/Becky%20Grilling.jpg

I didn't make the 82 race because I was out of town on business and by
83 I was on my way to Florida so I don't know what happened to the
raft race after that .

Well, I was doing some heavy travelling during that time, but I've not
heard anything lately. I tried to call WPGC to see if they still
sponsored it, but all I could get were taped messages.

I didn't see any food!

Great pictures.