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"Keith Nuttle" wrote in message
...
Your thinking is flawed. What has happened in the past DOES have a
bearing on today. We're still spending money in Iraq, for instance.
Until recently we were paying a tax on our telephone whose original
purpose had long since passed. History does count.

Unfortunately there are those that would rather repeat the mistakes of the
past than learn from history. Consider the lessons from the thirties that
are being ignored. The democrats tried to spend the country out of the
depression. It took twenty years and two wars before the country was able
to extract is self from that spending spree. Yet what is obama doing
today? Adding two trillion dollars to the deficit to get the country out
of what he considers a depression. How many years and wars will it take
the US to get out of obama's fiasco?

How about we give him 1/2 the time to get us going in the opposite direction
than the time we spent getting into the mess? Does that seem fair?

--
Nom=de=Plume

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On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 16:50:36 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:


Like I told Eisboch, when I lost my job because of the bad economy
during The Great Reagan Depression in 1982 - much worse than now BTW -

i was there too. that one was child's play compared to bush's fiasco

Depends. You know they say a recession is when a neighbor loses his
job and a depression is when you lose yours. I lost mine then.
I'm doing much, much better now than I was then.
There are many ways to look at it, some being how accurately the
unemployment stats reflect reality, how much unemployment comp is
available, etc, etc.
But going by unemployment stats alone,
http://www.davemanuel.com/historical...ted-states.php
"The highest rate for a single month is shared by November and
December of 1982 with an unemployment rate of 10.8%
The year with the highest average unemployment rate was 1982 with an
average unemployment rate of 9.71%"

I didn't blame Jimmy Carter for that depression. Â*He was gone.
Eisboch wanted to blame Carter , because he was a sap for Ronnie
Raygun.
So to make that work, he had to defend Obama with Bush's sins.
I don't play that game. Â*There's only one decider at a time.
If things continue to get worse and you lose your job, good luck
blaming GWB. Â*He won't make your car payments, and you'll be looking
for Obama to get you back on your feet.

uh...no. what looking at history does is, hopefully, prevent you from
making the same mistake twice...like voting for a right wing president
who says 'trust the free market'.

Uh, no what? Are you saying that GWB is going to keep Loogy
working and making car payments? You're a bit behind times.
A right wing Prez wasn't elected. Obama was elected, so that history
you speak of already worked. Now there's a new history being made.
You forgot already?
It's a new game.
Obama's got the ball. You going to blame or credit everything he does
to GWB? Or maybe just blame GWB and credit Obama.
I had no use for GWB, but I'll use my same criteria to judge Obama.

--Vic

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John H. wrote:
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:15:02 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 08:44:09 -0400, NotNow wrote:
So recent history has no bearing on what's happening today?
Never said that. But the history that counts starts today.
Cool! Guess that means I don't have to pay my car payment because I
didn't buy the car today?

Your thinking is flawed. What has happened in the past DOES have a
bearing on today. We're still spending money in Iraq, for instance.

Yes, Obama is. One must wonder why he is still there if so many
liberals think Iraq was a bad idea.
--

Maybe because he is doing what HE thinks is right, as opposed to doing
what Rush thinks is right.

Yeah, it only got "right" after Jan. 20.. as did so many other things he
campaigned against... snerk

--
Wafa free since 2009

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In article ,
says...

On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:57:40 -0400, NotNow wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:15:02 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 08:44:09 -0400, NotNow wrote:
So recent history has no bearing on what's happening today?
Never said that. But the history that counts starts today.
Cool! Guess that means I don't have to pay my car payment because I
didn't buy the car today?

Your thinking is flawed. What has happened in the past DOES have a
bearing on today. We're still spending money in Iraq, for instance.

Yes, Obama is. One must wonder why he is still there if so many
liberals think Iraq was a bad idea.
--

Maybe because he is doing what HE thinks is right, as opposed to doing
what Rush thinks is right.

I believe Rush thought Iraq was a good idea. I guess he and BO are
thinking alike on this issue.

As long as we all understand whose war it is now.

Well, the real Barak is not hard to figure out. He has decades of books
and speeches to look at, just ignore anything he said while he was in
campaign mode...
--
Wafa free since 2009

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In article ,
says...

On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 12:18:37 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Sep 2, 2:32*pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:15:02 -0400, NotNow wrote:


Your thinking is flawed. What has happened in the past DOES have a
bearing on today. We're still spending money in Iraq, for instance.

Yes, Obama is. One must wonder why he is still there if so many
liberals think Iraq was a bad idea.
--


because we know bush ****ed it up so bad that we now have to clean the
mess up before we leave. i know that, to rednecks, they think liberals
want to cut and run, but that shows how little rednecks know about
anything

Uh, uh, what mess?

That is a question none of them can answer... They just say it because
Saturday Night Live and Jon Stewart told them to..

--
Wafa free since 2009

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On Sep 2, 9:04*pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 16:50:36 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

Like I told Eisboch, when I lost my job because of the bad economy
during The Great Reagan Depression in 1982 - much worse than now BTW -

i was there too. that one was child's play compared to bush's fiasco

Depends. *You know they say a recession is when a neighbor loses his
job and a depression is when you lose yours. *I lost mine then.
I'm doing much, much better now than I was then.
There are many ways to look at it, some being how accurately the
unemployment stats reflect reality, how much unemployment comp is
available, etc, etc.
But going by unemployment stats alone,http://www.davemanuel.com/historical...-in-the-united...
"The highest rate for a single month is shared by November and
December of 1982 with an unemployment rate of 10.8%
The year with the highest average unemployment rate was 1982 with an
average unemployment rate of 9.71%"

unemployment right now is about 9.5 and will probably go to 11% next
year



I didn't blame Jimmy Carter for that depression. *He was gone.
Eisboch wanted to blame Carter , because he was a sap for Ronnie
Raygun.
So to make that work, he had to defend Obama with Bush's sins.
I don't play that game. *There's only one decider at a time.
If things continue to get worse and you lose your job, good luck
blaming GWB. *He won't make your car payments, and you'll be looking
for Obama to get you back on your feet.

uh...no. what looking at history does is, hopefully, prevent you from
making the same mistake twice...like voting for a right wing president
who says 'trust the free market'.

Uh, no what? *Are you saying that GWB is going to keep Loogy
working and making car payments? *You're a bit behind times.
A right wing Prez wasn't elected. *Obama was elected, so that history
you speak of already worked. *

and hopefully we wont buy the lies of the right and trash obama. bush
lied for 8 years and the right sucked his dick. obama's trying to
help the middle class and the right are going after him with torches
and pitchforks

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John H. wrote:
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 14:57:40 -0400, NotNow wrote:

John H. wrote:
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:15:02 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 08:44:09 -0400, NotNow wrote:
So recent history has no bearing on what's happening today?
Never said that. But the history that counts starts today.
Cool! Guess that means I don't have to pay my car payment because I
didn't buy the car today?

Your thinking is flawed. What has happened in the past DOES have a
bearing on today. We're still spending money in Iraq, for instance.
Yes, Obama is. One must wonder why he is still there if so many
liberals think Iraq was a bad idea.
--
Maybe because he is doing what HE thinks is right, as opposed to doing
what Rush thinks is right.

I believe Rush thought Iraq was a good idea. I guess he and BO are
thinking alike on this issue.

As long as we all understand whose war it is now.
--
John H

Do you think it would be easier to withdraw from a war that someone
started for some unknown reason, or to have not started it in the first
place? Are you of the mindset that what happened in the past has no
bearing on what happens now?

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NotNow wrote:
Vic Smith wrote:
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 08:44:09 -0400, NotNow wrote:
So recent history has no bearing on what's happening today?

Never said that. But the history that counts starts today.

Cool! Guess that means I don't have to pay my car payment because I
didn't buy the car today?

Your thinking is flawed. What has happened in the past DOES have a
bearing on today. We're still spending money in Iraq, for instance.

How far back do you want to go and are you willing to look at both sides
of the political aisle?

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wf3h wrote:
On Sep 2, 3:22 pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 12:18:37 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:





On Sep 2, 2:32 pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:15:02 -0400, NotNow wrote:
Your thinking is flawed. What has happened in the past DOES have a
bearing on today. We're still spending money in Iraq, for instance.
Yes, Obama is. One must wonder why he is still there if so many
liberals think Iraq was a bad idea.
--
because we know bush ****ed it up so bad that we now have to clean the
mess up before we leave. i know that, to rednecks, they think liberals
want to cut and run, but that shows how little rednecks know about
anything
Uh, uh, what mess?


that you don't know tells us why we're in the mess we're in

that you can't state what the mess is tells us you don't know what you
are talking about

but, you still have the issue don't you

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John H. wrote:
On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 12:18:37 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:

On Sep 2, 2:32 pm, John H. wrote:
On Wed, 02 Sep 2009 13:15:02 -0400, NotNow wrote:
Your thinking is flawed. What has happened in the past DOES have a
bearing on today. We're still spending money in Iraq, for instance.
Yes, Obama is. One must wonder why he is still there if so many
liberals think Iraq was a bad idea.
--

because we know bush ****ed it up so bad that we now have to clean the
mess up before we leave. i know that, to rednecks, they think liberals
want to cut and run, but that shows how little rednecks know about
anything

Uh, uh, what mess?
--
John H


The infrastructure is in shambles, Bush promised to rebuild it.