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[email protected] August 25th 09 06:24 PM

Your gonna get screwed
 
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:21:36 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 25, 12:35 pm, H the K wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 25, 11:13 am, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:54:16 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:
On Aug 25, 10:27 am, Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 25, 10:21 am, Frogwatch wrote:
Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288...
I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. If
this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be
forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the
maximum amount. I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy
the US economy and force us into socialism.
Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I
cannot find the source.
first of all, the WSJ is hardly an objective source. it's a cheering
section for the folks who got us into this mess in the first place
further, it's their goal to oppose ANY provisions which level the
playing field in favor of the middle class. one person has called the
"WSJ" 'quaintly reactionary'. and it is.
Ad hominem argument.
said the only man in america who doesn't know the political
orientation of the WSJ.
hint: it aint the 'pennysaver'.
The WSJ, Forbes, Investors...et cetera, all push the extreme right wing
position at all times.


Meanwhile, Obama gives $2 billion to an oil company in Brazil whose
main shareholder is ..........George Soros. This is while the Dems
forbid offshore drilling here.


It's far from the quick fix some on the right think it is, nor is it a
guarantee of oil independency


But it provides greater latitude and mobility.

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Frogwatch[_2_] August 25th 09 06:27 PM

Your gonna get screwed
 
On Aug 25, 1:24*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:21:36 -0400, NotNow wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 25, 12:35 pm, H the K wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 25, 11:13 am, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:54:16 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:
On Aug 25, 10:27 am, Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 25, 10:21 am, Frogwatch wrote:
Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288...
I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional.. *If
this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be
forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the
maximum amount. *I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy
the US economy and force us into socialism.
Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I
cannot find the source.
first of all, the WSJ is hardly an objective source. it's a cheering
section for the folks who got us into this mess in the first place
further, it's their goal to oppose ANY provisions which level the
playing field in favor of the middle class. one person has called the
"WSJ" 'quaintly reactionary'. and it is.
Ad hominem argument.
said the only man in america who doesn't know the political
orientation of the WSJ.
hint: it aint the 'pennysaver'.
The WSJ, Forbes, Investors...et cetera, all push the extreme right wing
position at all times.


Meanwhile, Obama gives $2 billion to an oil company in Brazil whose
main shareholder is ..........George Soros. *This is while the Dems
forbid offshore drilling here.


It's far from the quick fix some on the right think it is, nor is it a
guarantee of oil independency


But it provides greater latitude and mobility.

--
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It is amusing to hear from people who think Daily Kos is "Fair and
balanced".

[email protected] August 25th 09 06:30 PM

Your gonna get screwed
 
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:27:51 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

On Aug 25, 1:24*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:21:36 -0400, NotNow wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 25, 12:35 pm, H the K wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 25, 11:13 am, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:54:16 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:
On Aug 25, 10:27 am, Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 25, 10:21 am, Frogwatch wrote:
Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288...
I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. *If
this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be
forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the
maximum amount. *I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy
the US economy and force us into socialism.
Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I
cannot find the source.
first of all, the WSJ is hardly an objective source. it's a cheering
section for the folks who got us into this mess in the first place
further, it's their goal to oppose ANY provisions which level the
playing field in favor of the middle class. one person has called the
"WSJ" 'quaintly reactionary'. and it is.
Ad hominem argument.
said the only man in america who doesn't know the political
orientation of the WSJ.
hint: it aint the 'pennysaver'.
The WSJ, Forbes, Investors...et cetera, all push the extreme right wing
position at all times.


Meanwhile, Obama gives $2 billion to an oil company in Brazil whose
main shareholder is ..........George Soros. *This is while the Dems
forbid offshore drilling here.


It's far from the quick fix some on the right think it is, nor is it a
guarantee of oil independency


But it provides greater latitude and mobility.

--
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It is amusing to hear from people who think Daily Kos is "Fair and
balanced".


And Daily Kos, Huffpo, and Michael Moore should all be commissioned to
write the history books for our youngsters...

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nom=de=plume August 25th 09 06:58 PM

Your gonna get screwed
 
So, I guess you didn't read this part:

"In another example of bad lawmaking, in 2007, Congress stuck into a
supplemental appropriations bill a major change in the way penalties are
computed for people in the business of preparing tax returns. Congress acted
without consulting with the IRS. The IRS chief counsel at the time, Donald
Korb, said publicly that the service had been "blindsided" by the change.
The change created a conflict of interest for tax professionals. It
subjected them to a higher penalty standard than their clients, which
encouraged them to give tax advice that protected the tax preparer more than
the taxpayer. The IRS and tax professionals tore their hair out trying to
sort through the mess until 2008, when Congress changed the law again."

This stuff happens all the time. But, it's Obama and Pelosi's fault, right?

"Frogwatch" wrote in message
...
On Aug 25, 10:21 am, Frogwatch wrote:
Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to
pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288...


I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. If
this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be
forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the
maximum amount. I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy
the US economy and force us into socialism.
Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I
cannot find the source.



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NotNow[_3_] August 25th 09 07:20 PM

(no subject)
 
Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 25, 1:24 pm, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:21:36 -0400, NotNow wrote:
Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 25, 12:35 pm, H the K wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 25, 11:13 am, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:54:16 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:
On Aug 25, 10:27 am, Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 25, 10:21 am, Frogwatch wrote:
Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288...
I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. If
this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be
forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the
maximum amount. I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy
the US economy and force us into socialism.
Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I
cannot find the source.
first of all, the WSJ is hardly an objective source. it's a cheering
section for the folks who got us into this mess in the first place
further, it's their goal to oppose ANY provisions which level the
playing field in favor of the middle class. one person has called the
"WSJ" 'quaintly reactionary'. and it is.
Ad hominem argument.
said the only man in america who doesn't know the political
orientation of the WSJ.
hint: it aint the 'pennysaver'.
The WSJ, Forbes, Investors...et cetera, all push the extreme right wing
position at all times.
Meanwhile, Obama gives $2 billion to an oil company in Brazil whose
main shareholder is ..........George Soros. This is while the Dems
forbid offshore drilling here.
It's far from the quick fix some on the right think it is, nor is it a
guarantee of oil independency

But it provides greater latitude and mobility.

--
Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service
-------http://www.NewsDemon.com------
Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access


It is amusing to hear from people who think Daily Kos is "Fair and
balanced".


Almost as amusing as people thinking that Fox News is "Fair and balanced".

wf3h August 25th 09 07:22 PM

Your gonna get screwed
 
On Aug 25, 1:20*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:13:36 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:





On Aug 25, 12:58*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:23:45 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:


On Aug 25, 11:13*am, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:54:16 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:


On Aug 25, 10:27*am, Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 25, 10:21*am, Frogwatch wrote:


Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288...


I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. *If
this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be
forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the
maximum amount. *I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy
the US economy and force us into socialism.
Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I
cannot find the source.


first of all, the WSJ is hardly an objective source. it's a cheering
section for the folks who got us into this mess in the first place


further, it's their goal to oppose ANY provisions which level the
playing field in favor of the middle class. one person has called the
"WSJ" 'quaintly reactionary'. and it is.


Ad hominem argument.


said the only man in america who doesn't know the political
orientation of the WSJ.


hint: it aint the 'pennysaver'.


The circumstantial ad hominem is an informal fallacy and does not
serve as a valid refutation of the argument.


IOW he's never heard of the 'wall street journal', doesn't read it and
doesn't know its politcal orientation


sheesh. how much education do these guys NEED?


IOW, you're a poor thinker.


IOW you're a non-reader


JustWait August 25th 09 07:29 PM

Your gonna get screwed
 
In article cb9fd4d9-cba1-4fe8-a5b3-1cfd9a076ce9
@j21g2000yqe.googlegroups.com, says...

On Aug 25, 12:35*pm, H the K wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 25, 11:13 am, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:54:16 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:


On Aug 25, 10:27 am, Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 25, 10:21 am, Frogwatch wrote:
Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288...
I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. *If
this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be
forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the
maximum amount. *I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy
the US economy and force us into socialism.
Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I
cannot find the source.
first of all, the WSJ is hardly an objective source. it's a cheering
section for the folks who got us into this mess in the first place
further, it's their goal to oppose ANY provisions which level the
playing field in favor of the middle class. one person has called the
"WSJ" 'quaintly reactionary'. and it is.
Ad hominem argument.


said the only man in america who doesn't know the political
orientation of the WSJ.


hint: it aint the 'pennysaver'.


The WSJ, Forbes, Investors...et cetera, all push the extreme right wing
position at all times.


Meanwhile, Obama gives $2 billion to an oil company in Brazil whose
main shareholder is ..........George Soros. This is while the Dems
forbid offshore drilling here.


Couldn't have been more clear what his intention is...

--
Wafa free since 2009

H the K[_2_] August 25th 09 07:35 PM

Your gonna get screwed
 
JustWait wrote:
In article cb9fd4d9-cba1-4fe8-a5b3-1cfd9a076ce9
@j21g2000yqe.googlegroups.com, says...
On Aug 25, 12:35 pm, H the K wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 25, 11:13 am, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:54:16 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote:
On Aug 25, 10:27 am, Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 25, 10:21 am, Frogwatch wrote:
Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288...
I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. If
this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be
forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the
maximum amount. I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy
the US economy and force us into socialism.
Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I
cannot find the source.
first of all, the WSJ is hardly an objective source. it's a cheering
section for the folks who got us into this mess in the first place
further, it's their goal to oppose ANY provisions which level the
playing field in favor of the middle class. one person has called the
"WSJ" 'quaintly reactionary'. and it is.
Ad hominem argument.
said the only man in america who doesn't know the political
orientation of the WSJ.
hint: it aint the 'pennysaver'.
The WSJ, Forbes, Investors...et cetera, all push the extreme right wing
position at all times.

Meanwhile, Obama gives $2 billion to an oil company in Brazil whose
main shareholder is ..........George Soros. This is while the Dems
forbid offshore drilling here.


Couldn't have been more clear what his intention is...



When is your appointment with the death panel? Soon?

BAR[_2_] August 25th 09 07:46 PM

Your gonna get screwed
 
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 25, 10:27 am, Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 25, 10:21 am, Frogwatch wrote:

Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288...

I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. If
this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be
forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the
maximum amount. I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy
the US economy and force us into socialism.
Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I
cannot find the source.


first of all, the WSJ is hardly an objective source. it's a cheering
section for the folks who got us into this mess in the first place

further, it's their goal to oppose ANY provisions which level the
playing field in favor of the middle class. one person has called the
"WSJ" 'quaintly reactionary'. and it is.


Level the playing field? What can be more level than paying for the
services you receive? It's just like going to the grocery store, you
fill up your cart and go to the checkout, pay for your purchases and go
home.

some people by USDA choice and others buy USDA prime. Some by store
brand canned goods and others buy the major brands. Is it fair? No,
should the government step in and level the playing field so that we are
all buying USDA choice and store brand? I sure as hell hope not.




Frogwatch[_2_] August 25th 09 08:10 PM

Your gonna get screwed
 
On Aug 25, 2:46*pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 25, 10:27 am, Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 25, 10:21 am, Frogwatch wrote:


Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288...
I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. *If
this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be
forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the
maximum amount. *I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy
the US economy and force us into socialism.
Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I
cannot find the source.


first of all, the WSJ is hardly an objective source. it's a cheering
section for the folks who got us into this mess in the first place


further, it's their goal to oppose ANY provisions which level the
playing field in favor of the middle class. one person has called the
"WSJ" 'quaintly reactionary'. and it is.


Level the playing field? What can be more level than paying for the
services you receive? It's just like going to the grocery store, you
fill up your cart and go to the checkout, pay for your purchases and go
home.

some people by USDA choice and others buy USDA prime. Some by store
brand canned goods and others buy the major brands. Is it fair? No,
should the government step in and level the playing field so that we are
all buying USDA choice and store brand? I sure as hell hope not.


Putting this tax penalty into any health care legislation will truly
kill small business. Everybody makes honest tax mistakes but to get
penalized so much will drive most of us out of business. The
intention here seems to be to kill small business and make us all
dependent on govt hand-outs. All your mom and pop stores will go
under with the only outlets remaining will be Wal mart because they
can afford to fight these penalties. The dems know this and they
INTEND to drive small business under.


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