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On Aug 25, 10:21*am, Frogwatch wrote:
Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288... I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. If this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the maximum amount. I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy the US economy and force us into socialism. Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I cannot find the source. |
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On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:27:37 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote: On Aug 25, 10:21*am, Frogwatch wrote: Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288... I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. If this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the maximum amount. I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy the US economy and force us into socialism. Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I cannot find the source. The IRS has long had the capacity, under the beneficent oversight of our glorious lawmakers, to make criminals of innocent citizens. This is why a national sales tax as opposed to a personal income tax is an imperative. Having owned a manufactuing concern for a number of years, I'm all too well aware of the unwarranted burden the government has put on small business and the individual through the vehicle of an indifferent government agency. It's a repugnant oppression of the individual, and the "compassionate" Left wants to enhance our individual tax experience. The IRS should be dismantled if for no other reason than to take it out of the hands of the politician as a conveniently persistent political issue. Whatever happened to that country of liberty that our founding fathers fought so hard to create? -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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On Aug 25, 10:27*am, Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 25, 10:21*am, Frogwatch wrote: Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288... I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. *If this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the maximum amount. *I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy the US economy and force us into socialism. Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I cannot find the source. first of all, the WSJ is hardly an objective source. it's a cheering section for the folks who got us into this mess in the first place further, it's their goal to oppose ANY provisions which level the playing field in favor of the middle class. one person has called the "WSJ" 'quaintly reactionary'. and it is. |
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On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:54:16 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote: On Aug 25, 10:27*am, Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 10:21*am, Frogwatch wrote: Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288... I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. *If this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the maximum amount. *I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy the US economy and force us into socialism. Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I cannot find the source. first of all, the WSJ is hardly an objective source. it's a cheering section for the folks who got us into this mess in the first place further, it's their goal to oppose ANY provisions which level the playing field in favor of the middle class. one person has called the "WSJ" 'quaintly reactionary'. and it is. Ad hominem argument. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 25, 10:21 am, Frogwatch wrote: Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288... I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. If this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the maximum amount. I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy the US economy and force us into socialism. Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I cannot find the source. You should call your doctor and see if you can get your meds changed. Else, check yourself into the NE Florida State Hospital. You'd do better there than at the hospital in Chattahoochee. :) |
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wf3h wrote:
On Aug 25, 10:27 am, Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 10:21 am, Frogwatch wrote: Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288... I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. If this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the maximum amount. I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy the US economy and force us into socialism. Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I cannot find the source. first of all, the WSJ is hardly an objective source. it's a cheering section for the folks who got us into this mess in the first place further, it's their goal to oppose ANY provisions which level the playing field in favor of the middle class. one person has called the "WSJ" 'quaintly reactionary'. and it is. Especially since being taken over by Murdoch and his Gang of Slime. |
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H the K wrote:
Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 10:21 am, Frogwatch wrote: Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288... I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. If this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the maximum amount. I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy the US economy and force us into socialism. Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I cannot find the source. You should call your doctor and see if you can get your meds changed. Else, check yourself into the NE Florida State Hospital. You'd do better there than at the hospital in Chattahoochee. :) In Macclenney... |
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On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:17:28 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote: wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:27:37 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 10:21 am, Frogwatch wrote: Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288... I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. If this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the maximum amount. I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy the US economy and force us into socialism. Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I cannot find the source. The IRS has long had the capacity, under the beneficent oversight of our glorious lawmakers, to make criminals of innocent citizens. This is why a national sales tax as opposed to a personal income tax is an imperative. Having owned a manufactuing concern for a number of years, I'm all too well aware of the unwarranted burden the government has put on small business and the individual through the vehicle of an indifferent government agency. It's a repugnant oppression of the individual, and the "compassionate" Left wants to enhance our individual tax experience. The IRS should be dismantled if for no other reason than to take it out of the hands of the politician as a conveniently persistent political issue. Whatever happened to that country of liberty that our founding fathers fought so hard to create? -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access Do you actually believe it will be an either or situation? If the Obamadytes get a national sales tax they will give up the income tax? That is exactly the argument made in Indiana in the 1966, when a 2% sales tax was approve. In return the personal property tax on auto was eliminated. HOWEVER with in a couple of years auto were again subject to a high tax with a different name. Net results Indiana now has a 7% sales tax and you pay several time the what you use to pay for the personal property tax on your auto (based on the price of the auto) to get it licensed. What I wrote was what I believe to be a necessary alternative to the current tax structure. I know intuitively that our government will never surrender or dramatically overhaul the tax system as it stands. It's too convenient of a tool and a weapon for our politicians, for those that are proponents of expanded government and those that aren't. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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On Aug 25, 11:27*am, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:17:28 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:27:37 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 10:21 am, Frogwatch wrote: Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288... I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. *If this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the maximum amount. *I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy the US economy and force us into socialism. Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I cannot find the source. The IRS has long had the capacity, under the beneficent oversight of our glorious lawmakers, to make criminals of innocent citizens. *This is why a national sales tax as opposed to a personal income tax is an imperative. *Having owned a manufactuing concern for a number of years, I'm all too well aware of the unwarranted burden the government has put on small business and the individual through the vehicle of an indifferent government agency. *It's a repugnant oppression of the individual, and the "compassionate" Left wants to enhance our individual tax experience. *The IRS should be dismantled if for no other reason than to take it out of the hands of the politician as a conveniently persistent political issue. *Whatever happened to that country of liberty that our founding fathers fought so hard to create? -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service * * * * * * -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access Do you actually believe it will be an either or situation? *If the Obamadytes get a national sales tax they will give up the income tax? That is exactly the argument made in Indiana in the 1966, when a 2% sales tax was approve. *In return the personal property tax on auto was eliminated. *HOWEVER with in a couple of years auto were again subject to a high tax with a different name. Net results Indiana now has a 7% sales tax and you pay several time the what you use to pay for the personal property tax on your auto (based on the price of the auto) to get it licensed. What I wrote was what I believe to be a necessary alternative to the current tax structure. *I know intuitively that our government will never surrender or dramatically overhaul the tax system as it stands. It's too convenient of a tool and a weapon for our politicians, for those that are proponents of expanded government and those that aren't. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service * * * * * * *-------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access Here is more about the lefts attempts to actively destroy the economic engine so as to force us into socialism: http://www.forbes.com/2009/08/19/fac...ve-forbes.html Destroy Venture Capital and you destroy any chance of a new Google or Apple, etc. Sooner or later, everybody will have to work for the govt. |
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On Aug 25, 11:13*am, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:54:16 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 10:27*am, Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 10:21*am, Frogwatch wrote: Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288... I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. *If this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the maximum amount. *I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy the US economy and force us into socialism. Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I cannot find the source. first of all, the WSJ is hardly an objective source. it's a cheering section for the folks who got us into this mess in the first place further, it's their goal to oppose ANY provisions which level the playing field in favor of the middle class. one person has called the "WSJ" 'quaintly reactionary'. and it is. Ad hominem argument. said the only man in america who doesn't know the political orientation of the WSJ. hint: it aint the 'pennysaver'. |
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wf3h wrote:
On Aug 25, 11:13 am, wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:54:16 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 10:27 am, Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 10:21 am, Frogwatch wrote: Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288... I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. If this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the maximum amount. I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy the US economy and force us into socialism. Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I cannot find the source. first of all, the WSJ is hardly an objective source. it's a cheering section for the folks who got us into this mess in the first place further, it's their goal to oppose ANY provisions which level the playing field in favor of the middle class. one person has called the "WSJ" 'quaintly reactionary'. and it is. Ad hominem argument. said the only man in america who doesn't know the political orientation of the WSJ. hint: it aint the 'pennysaver'. The WSJ, Forbes, Investors...et cetera, all push the extreme right wing position at all times. |
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On Aug 25, 12:35*pm, H the K wrote:
wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 11:13 am, wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:54:16 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 10:27 am, Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 10:21 am, Frogwatch wrote: Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288... I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. *If this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the maximum amount. *I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy the US economy and force us into socialism. Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I cannot find the source. first of all, the WSJ is hardly an objective source. it's a cheering section for the folks who got us into this mess in the first place further, it's their goal to oppose ANY provisions which level the playing field in favor of the middle class. one person has called the "WSJ" 'quaintly reactionary'. and it is. Ad hominem argument. said the only man in america who doesn't know the political orientation of the WSJ. hint: it aint the 'pennysaver'. The WSJ, Forbes, Investors...et cetera, all push the extreme right wing position at all times. Meanwhile, Obama gives $2 billion to an oil company in Brazil whose main shareholder is ..........George Soros. This is while the Dems forbid offshore drilling here. |
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On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:23:45 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote: On Aug 25, 11:13*am, wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:54:16 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 10:27*am, Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 10:21*am, Frogwatch wrote: Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288... I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. *If this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the maximum amount. *I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy the US economy and force us into socialism. Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I cannot find the source. first of all, the WSJ is hardly an objective source. it's a cheering section for the folks who got us into this mess in the first place further, it's their goal to oppose ANY provisions which level the playing field in favor of the middle class. one person has called the "WSJ" 'quaintly reactionary'. and it is. Ad hominem argument. said the only man in america who doesn't know the political orientation of the WSJ. hint: it aint the 'pennysaver'. The circumstantial ad hominem is an informal fallacy and does not serve as a valid refutation of the argument. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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On Aug 25, 12:58*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:23:45 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 11:13*am, wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:54:16 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 10:27*am, Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 10:21*am, Frogwatch wrote: Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288... I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. *If this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the maximum amount. *I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy the US economy and force us into socialism. Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I cannot find the source. first of all, the WSJ is hardly an objective source. it's a cheering section for the folks who got us into this mess in the first place further, it's their goal to oppose ANY provisions which level the playing field in favor of the middle class. one person has called the "WSJ" 'quaintly reactionary'. and it is. Ad hominem argument. said the only man in america who doesn't know the political orientation of the WSJ. hint: it aint the 'pennysaver'. The circumstantial ad hominem is an informal fallacy and does not serve as a valid refutation of the argument. IOW he's never heard of the 'wall street journal', doesn't read it and doesn't know its politcal orientation sheesh. how much education do these guys NEED? |
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Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 25, 11:27 am, wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:17:28 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:27:37 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 10:21 am, Frogwatch wrote: Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288... I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. If this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the maximum amount. I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy the US economy and force us into socialism. Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I cannot find the source. The IRS has long had the capacity, under the beneficent oversight of our glorious lawmakers, to make criminals of innocent citizens. This is why a national sales tax as opposed to a personal income tax is an imperative. Having owned a manufactuing concern for a number of years, I'm all too well aware of the unwarranted burden the government has put on small business and the individual through the vehicle of an indifferent government agency. It's a repugnant oppression of the individual, and the "compassionate" Left wants to enhance our individual tax experience. The IRS should be dismantled if for no other reason than to take it out of the hands of the politician as a conveniently persistent political issue. Whatever happened to that country of liberty that our founding fathers fought so hard to create? -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access Do you actually believe it will be an either or situation? If the Obamadytes get a national sales tax they will give up the income tax? That is exactly the argument made in Indiana in the 1966, when a 2% sales tax was approve. In return the personal property tax on auto was eliminated. HOWEVER with in a couple of years auto were again subject to a high tax with a different name. Net results Indiana now has a 7% sales tax and you pay several time the what you use to pay for the personal property tax on your auto (based on the price of the auto) to get it licensed. What I wrote was what I believe to be a necessary alternative to the current tax structure. I know intuitively that our government will never surrender or dramatically overhaul the tax system as it stands. It's too convenient of a tool and a weapon for our politicians, for those that are proponents of expanded government and those that aren't. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access Here is more about the lefts attempts to actively destroy the economic engine so as to force us into socialism: http://www.forbes.com/2009/08/19/fac...ve-forbes.html Destroy Venture Capital and you destroy any chance of a new Google or Apple, etc. Sooner or later, everybody will have to work for the govt. Yes, and don't forget, we want to kill your elderly with a death panel, make devil worship the official religion, let all criminals go free, lock up all Christians, destroy families, and kill work ethic, and on and on and friggin on...... |
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On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:21:09 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote: On Aug 25, 11:27*am, wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:17:28 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:27:37 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 10:21 am, Frogwatch wrote: Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288... I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. *If this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the maximum amount. *I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy the US economy and force us into socialism. Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I cannot find the source. The IRS has long had the capacity, under the beneficent oversight of our glorious lawmakers, to make criminals of innocent citizens. *This is why a national sales tax as opposed to a personal income tax is an imperative. *Having owned a manufactuing concern for a number of years, I'm all too well aware of the unwarranted burden the government has put on small business and the individual through the vehicle of an indifferent government agency. *It's a repugnant oppression of the individual, and the "compassionate" Left wants to enhance our individual tax experience. *The IRS should be dismantled if for no other reason than to take it out of the hands of the politician as a conveniently persistent political issue. *Whatever happened to that country of liberty that our founding fathers fought so hard to create? -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service * * * * * * -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access Do you actually believe it will be an either or situation? *If the Obamadytes get a national sales tax they will give up the income tax? That is exactly the argument made in Indiana in the 1966, when a 2% sales tax was approve. *In return the personal property tax on auto was eliminated. *HOWEVER with in a couple of years auto were again subject to a high tax with a different name. Net results Indiana now has a 7% sales tax and you pay several time the what you use to pay for the personal property tax on your auto (based on the price of the auto) to get it licensed. What I wrote was what I believe to be a necessary alternative to the current tax structure. *I know intuitively that our government will never surrender or dramatically overhaul the tax system as it stands. It's too convenient of a tool and a weapon for our politicians, for those that are proponents of expanded government and those that aren't. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service * * * * * * *-------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access Here is more about the lefts attempts to actively destroy the economic engine so as to force us into socialism: http://www.forbes.com/2009/08/19/fac...ve-forbes.html Destroy Venture Capital and you destroy any chance of a new Google or Apple, etc. Sooner or later, everybody will have to work for the govt. He's an enlightened opinion piece from the WSJ. It's a good read. http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...468452872.html -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:13:36 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote: On Aug 25, 12:58*pm, wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:23:45 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 11:13*am, wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:54:16 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 10:27*am, Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 10:21*am, Frogwatch wrote: Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288... I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. *If this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the maximum amount. *I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy the US economy and force us into socialism. Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I cannot find the source. first of all, the WSJ is hardly an objective source. it's a cheering section for the folks who got us into this mess in the first place further, it's their goal to oppose ANY provisions which level the playing field in favor of the middle class. one person has called the "WSJ" 'quaintly reactionary'. and it is. Ad hominem argument. said the only man in america who doesn't know the political orientation of the WSJ. hint: it aint the 'pennysaver'. The circumstantial ad hominem is an informal fallacy and does not serve as a valid refutation of the argument. IOW he's never heard of the 'wall street journal', doesn't read it and doesn't know its politcal orientation sheesh. how much education do these guys NEED? IOW, you're a poor thinker. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 25, 12:35 pm, H the K wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 11:13 am, wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:54:16 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 10:27 am, Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 10:21 am, Frogwatch wrote: Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288... I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. If this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the maximum amount. I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy the US economy and force us into socialism. Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I cannot find the source. first of all, the WSJ is hardly an objective source. it's a cheering section for the folks who got us into this mess in the first place further, it's their goal to oppose ANY provisions which level the playing field in favor of the middle class. one person has called the "WSJ" 'quaintly reactionary'. and it is. Ad hominem argument. said the only man in america who doesn't know the political orientation of the WSJ. hint: it aint the 'pennysaver'. The WSJ, Forbes, Investors...et cetera, all push the extreme right wing position at all times. Meanwhile, Obama gives $2 billion to an oil company in Brazil whose main shareholder is ..........George Soros. This is while the Dems forbid offshore drilling here. It's far from the quick fix some on the right think it is, nor is it a guarantee of oil independency |
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On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:21:36 -0400, NotNow wrote:
Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 12:35 pm, H the K wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 11:13 am, wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:54:16 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 10:27 am, Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 10:21 am, Frogwatch wrote: Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288... I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. If this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the maximum amount. I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy the US economy and force us into socialism. Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I cannot find the source. first of all, the WSJ is hardly an objective source. it's a cheering section for the folks who got us into this mess in the first place further, it's their goal to oppose ANY provisions which level the playing field in favor of the middle class. one person has called the "WSJ" 'quaintly reactionary'. and it is. Ad hominem argument. said the only man in america who doesn't know the political orientation of the WSJ. hint: it aint the 'pennysaver'. The WSJ, Forbes, Investors...et cetera, all push the extreme right wing position at all times. Meanwhile, Obama gives $2 billion to an oil company in Brazil whose main shareholder is ..........George Soros. This is while the Dems forbid offshore drilling here. It's far from the quick fix some on the right think it is, nor is it a guarantee of oil independency But it provides greater latitude and mobility. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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On Aug 25, 1:24*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:21:36 -0400, NotNow wrote: Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 12:35 pm, H the K wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 11:13 am, wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:54:16 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 10:27 am, Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 10:21 am, Frogwatch wrote: Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288... I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional.. *If this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the maximum amount. *I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy the US economy and force us into socialism. Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I cannot find the source. first of all, the WSJ is hardly an objective source. it's a cheering section for the folks who got us into this mess in the first place further, it's their goal to oppose ANY provisions which level the playing field in favor of the middle class. one person has called the "WSJ" 'quaintly reactionary'. and it is. Ad hominem argument. said the only man in america who doesn't know the political orientation of the WSJ. hint: it aint the 'pennysaver'. The WSJ, Forbes, Investors...et cetera, all push the extreme right wing position at all times. Meanwhile, Obama gives $2 billion to an oil company in Brazil whose main shareholder is ..........George Soros. *This is while the Dems forbid offshore drilling here. It's far from the quick fix some on the right think it is, nor is it a guarantee of oil independency But it provides greater latitude and mobility. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service * * * * * * *-------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access It is amusing to hear from people who think Daily Kos is "Fair and balanced". |
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On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:27:51 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote: On Aug 25, 1:24*pm, wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:21:36 -0400, NotNow wrote: Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 12:35 pm, H the K wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 11:13 am, wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:54:16 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 10:27 am, Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 10:21 am, Frogwatch wrote: Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288... I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. *If this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the maximum amount. *I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy the US economy and force us into socialism. Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I cannot find the source. first of all, the WSJ is hardly an objective source. it's a cheering section for the folks who got us into this mess in the first place further, it's their goal to oppose ANY provisions which level the playing field in favor of the middle class. one person has called the "WSJ" 'quaintly reactionary'. and it is. Ad hominem argument. said the only man in america who doesn't know the political orientation of the WSJ. hint: it aint the 'pennysaver'. The WSJ, Forbes, Investors...et cetera, all push the extreme right wing position at all times. Meanwhile, Obama gives $2 billion to an oil company in Brazil whose main shareholder is ..........George Soros. *This is while the Dems forbid offshore drilling here. It's far from the quick fix some on the right think it is, nor is it a guarantee of oil independency But it provides greater latitude and mobility. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service * * * * * * *-------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access It is amusing to hear from people who think Daily Kos is "Fair and balanced". And Daily Kos, Huffpo, and Michael Moore should all be commissioned to write the history books for our youngsters... -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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So, I guess you didn't read this part:
"In another example of bad lawmaking, in 2007, Congress stuck into a supplemental appropriations bill a major change in the way penalties are computed for people in the business of preparing tax returns. Congress acted without consulting with the IRS. The IRS chief counsel at the time, Donald Korb, said publicly that the service had been "blindsided" by the change. The change created a conflict of interest for tax professionals. It subjected them to a higher penalty standard than their clients, which encouraged them to give tax advice that protected the tax preparer more than the taxpayer. The IRS and tax professionals tore their hair out trying to sort through the mess until 2008, when Congress changed the law again." This stuff happens all the time. But, it's Obama and Pelosi's fault, right? "Frogwatch" wrote in message ... On Aug 25, 10:21 am, Frogwatch wrote: Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288... I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. If this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the maximum amount. I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy the US economy and force us into socialism. Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I cannot find the source. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 25, 1:24 pm, wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:21:36 -0400, NotNow wrote: Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 12:35 pm, H the K wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 11:13 am, wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:54:16 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 10:27 am, Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 10:21 am, Frogwatch wrote: Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288... I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. If this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the maximum amount. I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy the US economy and force us into socialism. Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I cannot find the source. first of all, the WSJ is hardly an objective source. it's a cheering section for the folks who got us into this mess in the first place further, it's their goal to oppose ANY provisions which level the playing field in favor of the middle class. one person has called the "WSJ" 'quaintly reactionary'. and it is. Ad hominem argument. said the only man in america who doesn't know the political orientation of the WSJ. hint: it aint the 'pennysaver'. The WSJ, Forbes, Investors...et cetera, all push the extreme right wing position at all times. Meanwhile, Obama gives $2 billion to an oil company in Brazil whose main shareholder is ..........George Soros. This is while the Dems forbid offshore drilling here. It's far from the quick fix some on the right think it is, nor is it a guarantee of oil independency But it provides greater latitude and mobility. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access It is amusing to hear from people who think Daily Kos is "Fair and balanced". Almost as amusing as people thinking that Fox News is "Fair and balanced". |
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On Aug 25, 1:20*pm, wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 10:13:36 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 12:58*pm, wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:23:45 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 11:13*am, wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:54:16 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 10:27*am, Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 10:21*am, Frogwatch wrote: Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288... I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. *If this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the maximum amount. *I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy the US economy and force us into socialism. Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I cannot find the source. first of all, the WSJ is hardly an objective source. it's a cheering section for the folks who got us into this mess in the first place further, it's their goal to oppose ANY provisions which level the playing field in favor of the middle class. one person has called the "WSJ" 'quaintly reactionary'. and it is. Ad hominem argument. said the only man in america who doesn't know the political orientation of the WSJ. hint: it aint the 'pennysaver'. The circumstantial ad hominem is an informal fallacy and does not serve as a valid refutation of the argument. IOW he's never heard of the 'wall street journal', doesn't read it and doesn't know its politcal orientation sheesh. how much education do these guys NEED? IOW, you're a poor thinker. IOW you're a non-reader |
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In article cb9fd4d9-cba1-4fe8-a5b3-1cfd9a076ce9
@j21g2000yqe.googlegroups.com, says... On Aug 25, 12:35*pm, H the K wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 11:13 am, wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:54:16 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 10:27 am, Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 10:21 am, Frogwatch wrote: Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288... I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. *If this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the maximum amount. *I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy the US economy and force us into socialism. Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I cannot find the source. first of all, the WSJ is hardly an objective source. it's a cheering section for the folks who got us into this mess in the first place further, it's their goal to oppose ANY provisions which level the playing field in favor of the middle class. one person has called the "WSJ" 'quaintly reactionary'. and it is. Ad hominem argument. said the only man in america who doesn't know the political orientation of the WSJ. hint: it aint the 'pennysaver'. The WSJ, Forbes, Investors...et cetera, all push the extreme right wing position at all times. Meanwhile, Obama gives $2 billion to an oil company in Brazil whose main shareholder is ..........George Soros. This is while the Dems forbid offshore drilling here. Couldn't have been more clear what his intention is... -- Wafa free since 2009 |
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JustWait wrote:
In article cb9fd4d9-cba1-4fe8-a5b3-1cfd9a076ce9 @j21g2000yqe.googlegroups.com, says... On Aug 25, 12:35 pm, H the K wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 11:13 am, wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:54:16 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 10:27 am, Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 10:21 am, Frogwatch wrote: Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288... I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. If this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the maximum amount. I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy the US economy and force us into socialism. Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I cannot find the source. first of all, the WSJ is hardly an objective source. it's a cheering section for the folks who got us into this mess in the first place further, it's their goal to oppose ANY provisions which level the playing field in favor of the middle class. one person has called the "WSJ" 'quaintly reactionary'. and it is. Ad hominem argument. said the only man in america who doesn't know the political orientation of the WSJ. hint: it aint the 'pennysaver'. The WSJ, Forbes, Investors...et cetera, all push the extreme right wing position at all times. Meanwhile, Obama gives $2 billion to an oil company in Brazil whose main shareholder is ..........George Soros. This is while the Dems forbid offshore drilling here. Couldn't have been more clear what his intention is... When is your appointment with the death panel? Soon? |
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wf3h wrote:
On Aug 25, 10:27 am, Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 10:21 am, Frogwatch wrote: Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288... I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. If this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the maximum amount. I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy the US economy and force us into socialism. Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I cannot find the source. first of all, the WSJ is hardly an objective source. it's a cheering section for the folks who got us into this mess in the first place further, it's their goal to oppose ANY provisions which level the playing field in favor of the middle class. one person has called the "WSJ" 'quaintly reactionary'. and it is. Level the playing field? What can be more level than paying for the services you receive? It's just like going to the grocery store, you fill up your cart and go to the checkout, pay for your purchases and go home. some people by USDA choice and others buy USDA prime. Some by store brand canned goods and others buy the major brands. Is it fair? No, should the government step in and level the playing field so that we are all buying USDA choice and store brand? I sure as hell hope not. |
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On Aug 25, 2:46*pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 10:27 am, Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 10:21 am, Frogwatch wrote: Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288... I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. *If this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the maximum amount. *I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy the US economy and force us into socialism. Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I cannot find the source. first of all, the WSJ is hardly an objective source. it's a cheering section for the folks who got us into this mess in the first place further, it's their goal to oppose ANY provisions which level the playing field in favor of the middle class. one person has called the "WSJ" 'quaintly reactionary'. and it is. Level the playing field? What can be more level than paying for the services you receive? It's just like going to the grocery store, you fill up your cart and go to the checkout, pay for your purchases and go home. some people by USDA choice and others buy USDA prime. Some by store brand canned goods and others buy the major brands. Is it fair? No, should the government step in and level the playing field so that we are all buying USDA choice and store brand? I sure as hell hope not. Putting this tax penalty into any health care legislation will truly kill small business. Everybody makes honest tax mistakes but to get penalized so much will drive most of us out of business. The intention here seems to be to kill small business and make us all dependent on govt hand-outs. All your mom and pop stores will go under with the only outlets remaining will be Wal mart because they can afford to fight these penalties. The dems know this and they INTEND to drive small business under. |
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says... Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 11:27 am, wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:17:28 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:27:37 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 10:21 am, Frogwatch wrote: Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288... I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. If this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the maximum amount. I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy the US economy and force us into socialism. Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I cannot find the source. The IRS has long had the capacity, under the beneficent oversight of our glorious lawmakers, to make criminals of innocent citizens. This is why a national sales tax as opposed to a personal income tax is an imperative. Having owned a manufactuing concern for a number of years, I'm all too well aware of the unwarranted burden the government has put on small business and the individual through the vehicle of an indifferent government agency. It's a repugnant oppression of the individual, and the "compassionate" Left wants to enhance our individual tax experience. The IRS should be dismantled if for no other reason than to take it out of the hands of the politician as a conveniently persistent political issue. Whatever happened to that country of liberty that our founding fathers fought so hard to create? -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access Do you actually believe it will be an either or situation? If the Obamadytes get a national sales tax they will give up the income tax? That is exactly the argument made in Indiana in the 1966, when a 2% sales tax was approve. In return the personal property tax on auto was eliminated. HOWEVER with in a couple of years auto were again subject to a high tax with a different name. Net results Indiana now has a 7% sales tax and you pay several time the what you use to pay for the personal property tax on your auto (based on the price of the auto) to get it licensed. What I wrote was what I believe to be a necessary alternative to the current tax structure. I know intuitively that our government will never surrender or dramatically overhaul the tax system as it stands. It's too convenient of a tool and a weapon for our politicians, for those that are proponents of expanded government and those that aren't. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access Here is more about the lefts attempts to actively destroy the economic engine so as to force us into socialism: http://www.forbes.com/2009/08/19/fac...ve-forbes.html Destroy Venture Capital and you destroy any chance of a new Google or Apple, etc. Sooner or later, everybody will have to work for the govt. Yes, and don't forget, we want to kill your elderly with a death panel, make devil worship the official religion, let all criminals go free, lock up all Christians, destroy families, and kill work ethic, and on and on and friggin on...... It's funny how you take fringe people and paint all mainstream repubs with the brush.. I don't paint you with Bill Ayers, Crazy Enfume, Al Sharpton, and any of the hundred or so other real haters in congress or millions in the country. It wouldn't be fair to do that to anyone... -- Wafa free since 2009 |
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JustWait wrote:
In article , says... Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 11:27 am, wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:17:28 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:27:37 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 10:21 am, Frogwatch wrote: Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288... I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. If this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the maximum amount. I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy the US economy and force us into socialism. Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I cannot find the source. The IRS has long had the capacity, under the beneficent oversight of our glorious lawmakers, to make criminals of innocent citizens. This is why a national sales tax as opposed to a personal income tax is an imperative. Having owned a manufactuing concern for a number of years, I'm all too well aware of the unwarranted burden the government has put on small business and the individual through the vehicle of an indifferent government agency. It's a repugnant oppression of the individual, and the "compassionate" Left wants to enhance our individual tax experience. The IRS should be dismantled if for no other reason than to take it out of the hands of the politician as a conveniently persistent political issue. Whatever happened to that country of liberty that our founding fathers fought so hard to create? -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access Do you actually believe it will be an either or situation? If the Obamadytes get a national sales tax they will give up the income tax? That is exactly the argument made in Indiana in the 1966, when a 2% sales tax was approve. In return the personal property tax on auto was eliminated. HOWEVER with in a couple of years auto were again subject to a high tax with a different name. Net results Indiana now has a 7% sales tax and you pay several time the what you use to pay for the personal property tax on your auto (based on the price of the auto) to get it licensed. What I wrote was what I believe to be a necessary alternative to the current tax structure. I know intuitively that our government will never surrender or dramatically overhaul the tax system as it stands. It's too convenient of a tool and a weapon for our politicians, for those that are proponents of expanded government and those that aren't. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access Here is more about the lefts attempts to actively destroy the economic engine so as to force us into socialism: http://www.forbes.com/2009/08/19/fac...ve-forbes.html Destroy Venture Capital and you destroy any chance of a new Google or Apple, etc. Sooner or later, everybody will have to work for the govt. Yes, and don't forget, we want to kill your elderly with a death panel, make devil worship the official religion, let all criminals go free, lock up all Christians, destroy families, and kill work ethic, and on and on and friggin on...... It's funny how you take fringe people and paint all mainstream repubs with the brush.. I don't paint you with Bill Ayers, Crazy Enfume, Al Sharpton, and any of the hundred or so other real haters in congress or millions in the country. It wouldn't be fair to do that to anyone... Scotty!!! You have stated right HERE that there's a "death panel" and that liberals want to take elderly off of life support. John has done the same. Besides, you and John also paint all liberals with the same brush, so why is it wrong if I do it, but okay if you do? Oh, I remember, conservative = good, liberal = bad. |
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On Aug 25, 3:19*pm, NotNow wrote:
JustWait wrote: In article , says... Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 11:27 am, wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:17:28 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:27:37 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 10:21 am, Frogwatch wrote: Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288... I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional.. *If this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the maximum amount. *I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy the US economy and force us into socialism. Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I cannot find the source. The IRS has long had the capacity, under the beneficent oversight of our glorious lawmakers, to make criminals of innocent citizens. *This is why a national sales tax as opposed to a personal income tax is an imperative. *Having owned a manufactuing concern for a number of years, I'm all too well aware of the unwarranted burden the government has put on small business and the individual through the vehicle of an indifferent government agency. *It's a repugnant oppression of the individual, and the "compassionate" Left wants to enhance our individual tax experience. *The IRS should be dismantled if for no other reason than to take it out of the hands of the politician as a conveniently persistent political issue. *Whatever happened to that country of liberty that our founding fathers fought so hard to create? -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service * * * * * * -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access Do you actually believe it will be an either or situation? *If the Obamadytes get a national sales tax they will give up the income tax? That is exactly the argument made in Indiana in the 1966, when a 2% sales tax was approve. *In return the personal property tax on auto was eliminated. *HOWEVER with in a couple of years auto were again subject to a high tax with a different name. Net results Indiana now has a 7% sales tax and you pay several time the what you use to pay for the personal property tax on your auto (based on the price of the auto) to get it licensed. What I wrote was what I believe to be a necessary alternative to the current tax structure. *I know intuitively that our government will never surrender or dramatically overhaul the tax system as it stands.. It's too convenient of a tool and a weapon for our politicians, for those that are proponents of expanded government and those that aren't. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service * * * * * * *-------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access Here is more about the lefts attempts to actively destroy the economic engine so as to force us into socialism: http://www.forbes.com/2009/08/19/fac...ons-steve-forb.... Destroy Venture Capital and you destroy any chance of a new Google or Apple, etc. *Sooner or later, everybody will have to work for the govt. Yes, and don't forget, we want to kill your elderly with a death panel, make devil worship the official religion, let all criminals go free, lock up all Christians, destroy families, and kill work ethic, and on and on and friggin on...... It's funny how you take fringe people and paint all mainstream repubs with the brush.. I don't paint you with Bill Ayers, Crazy Enfume, Al Sharpton, and any of the hundred or so other real haters in congress or millions in the country. It wouldn't be fair to do that to anyone... Scotty!!! You have stated right HERE that there's a "death panel" and that liberals want to take elderly off of life support. John has done the same. Besides, you and John also paint all liberals with the same brush, so why is it wrong if I do it, but okay if you do? Oh, I remember, conservative = good, liberal = bad. I paint lefties as "bad" due to the blood of 100 million people murdered under communism that was supported by lefties. You cannot allow such poor judgement to happen again. These lefties still support Chavez and Castro and WOULD MAKE THE SAME MISTAKES AGAIN. |
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"H the K" wrote in message m... H the K wrote: Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 10:21 am, Frogwatch wrote: Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288... I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. If this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the maximum amount. I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy the US economy and force us into socialism. Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I cannot find the source. You should call your doctor and see if you can get your meds changed. Else, check yourself into the NE Florida State Hospital. You'd do better there than at the hospital in Chattahoochee. :) In Macclenney... That where you are traveling for your the death panel hearing? |
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says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 11:27 am, wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:17:28 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:27:37 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 10:21 am, Frogwatch wrote: Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288... I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. If this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the maximum amount. I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy the US economy and force us into socialism. Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I cannot find the source. The IRS has long had the capacity, under the beneficent oversight of our glorious lawmakers, to make criminals of innocent citizens. This is why a national sales tax as opposed to a personal income tax is an imperative. Having owned a manufactuing concern for a number of years, I'm all too well aware of the unwarranted burden the government has put on small business and the individual through the vehicle of an indifferent government agency. It's a repugnant oppression of the individual, and the "compassionate" Left wants to enhance our individual tax experience. The IRS should be dismantled if for no other reason than to take it out of the hands of the politician as a conveniently persistent political issue. Whatever happened to that country of liberty that our founding fathers fought so hard to create? -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access Do you actually believe it will be an either or situation? If the Obamadytes get a national sales tax they will give up the income tax? That is exactly the argument made in Indiana in the 1966, when a 2% sales tax was approve. In return the personal property tax on auto was eliminated. HOWEVER with in a couple of years auto were again subject to a high tax with a different name. Net results Indiana now has a 7% sales tax and you pay several time the what you use to pay for the personal property tax on your auto (based on the price of the auto) to get it licensed. What I wrote was what I believe to be a necessary alternative to the current tax structure. I know intuitively that our government will never surrender or dramatically overhaul the tax system as it stands. It's too convenient of a tool and a weapon for our politicians, for those that are proponents of expanded government and those that aren't. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access Here is more about the lefts attempts to actively destroy the economic engine so as to force us into socialism: http://www.forbes.com/2009/08/19/fac...ve-forbes.html Destroy Venture Capital and you destroy any chance of a new Google or Apple, etc. Sooner or later, everybody will have to work for the govt. Yes, and don't forget, we want to kill your elderly with a death panel, make devil worship the official religion, let all criminals go free, lock up all Christians, destroy families, and kill work ethic, and on and on and friggin on...... It's funny how you take fringe people and paint all mainstream repubs with the brush.. I don't paint you with Bill Ayers, Crazy Enfume, Al Sharpton, and any of the hundred or so other real haters in congress or millions in the country. It wouldn't be fair to do that to anyone... Scotty!!! You have stated right HERE that there's a "death panel" and that liberals want to take elderly off of life support. NOPE... didn't happen. John has done the same. Besides, you and John also paint all liberals with the same brush, NOPE, can't speak for John, but I have not done that.. I have given you lists on both sides.. period. You are painting me with some of the more vocal rithties in the group. Good honest people that they are I consider it a compliment, but I did not do what you say I did... so why is it wrong if I do it, but okay if you do? Oh, I remember, conservative = good, liberal = bad. -- Wafa free since 2009 |
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"H the K" wrote in message m... H the K wrote: Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 10:21 am, Frogwatch wrote: Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288... I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. If this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the maximum amount. I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy the US economy and force us into socialism. Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I cannot find the source. You should call your doctor and see if you can get your meds changed. Else, check yourself into the NE Florida State Hospital. You'd do better there than at the hospital in Chattahoochee. :) In Macclenney... That where you are traveling for your the death panel hearing? No, Bilious...I have *high quality* health insurance. The panel will come to me. I understand they're going to meet you at the shape-up lot at Home Depot. |
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... ?I paint lefties as "bad" due to the blood of 100 million people ?murdered under communism that was supported by lefties. You cannot ?allow such poor judgement to happen again. These lefties still ?support Chavez and Castro and WOULD MAKE THE SAME MISTAKES AGAIN. Ah, so Democrat = Communist. Funny how only nutters like you make that equation work. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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On Aug 25, 3:19 pm, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 11:27 am, wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:17:28 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:27:37 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 10:21 am, Frogwatch wrote: Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288... I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. If this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the maximum amount. I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy the US economy and force us into socialism. Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I cannot find the source. The IRS has long had the capacity, under the beneficent oversight of our glorious lawmakers, to make criminals of innocent citizens. This is why a national sales tax as opposed to a personal income tax is an imperative. Having owned a manufactuing concern for a number of years, I'm all too well aware of the unwarranted burden the government has put on small business and the individual through the vehicle of an indifferent government agency. It's a repugnant oppression of the individual, and the "compassionate" Left wants to enhance our individual tax experience. The IRS should be dismantled if for no other reason than to take it out of the hands of the politician as a conveniently persistent political issue. Whatever happened to that country of liberty that our founding fathers fought so hard to create? -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access Do you actually believe it will be an either or situation? If the Obamadytes get a national sales tax they will give up the income tax? That is exactly the argument made in Indiana in the 1966, when a 2% sales tax was approve. In return the personal property tax on auto was eliminated. HOWEVER with in a couple of years auto were again subject to a high tax with a different name. Net results Indiana now has a 7% sales tax and you pay several time the what you use to pay for the personal property tax on your auto (based on the price of the auto) to get it licensed. What I wrote was what I believe to be a necessary alternative to the current tax structure. I know intuitively that our government will never surrender or dramatically overhaul the tax system as it stands. It's too convenient of a tool and a weapon for our politicians, for those that are proponents of expanded government and those that aren't. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access Here is more about the lefts attempts to actively destroy the economic engine so as to force us into socialism: http://www.forbes.com/2009/08/19/fac...ons-steve-forb... Destroy Venture Capital and you destroy any chance of a new Google or Apple, etc. Sooner or later, everybody will have to work for the govt. Yes, and don't forget, we want to kill your elderly with a death panel, make devil worship the official religion, let all criminals go free, lock up all Christians, destroy families, and kill work ethic, and on and on and friggin on...... It's funny how you take fringe people and paint all mainstream repubs with the brush.. I don't paint you with Bill Ayers, Crazy Enfume, Al Sharpton, and any of the hundred or so other real haters in congress or millions in the country. It wouldn't be fair to do that to anyone... Scotty!!! You have stated right HERE that there's a "death panel" and that liberals want to take elderly off of life support. John has done the same. Besides, you and John also paint all liberals with the same brush, so why is it wrong if I do it, but okay if you do? Oh, I remember, conservative = good, liberal = bad. I paint lefties as "bad" due to the blood of 100 million people murdered under communism that was supported by lefties. You cannot allow such poor judgement to happen again. These lefties still support Chavez and Castro and WOULD MAKE THE SAME MISTAKES AGAIN. It's okay, Bush killed people in Iraq, remember? Hide you elderly, we're out to euthanise them, the lying conservatives on TV told you so! |
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On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 14:20:08 -0400, NotNow wrote:
Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 1:24 pm, wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 13:21:36 -0400, NotNow wrote: Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 12:35 pm, H the K wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 11:13 am, wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:54:16 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 10:27 am, Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 10:21 am, Frogwatch wrote: Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288... I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. If this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the maximum amount. I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy the US economy and force us into socialism. Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I cannot find the source. first of all, the WSJ is hardly an objective source. it's a cheering section for the folks who got us into this mess in the first place further, it's their goal to oppose ANY provisions which level the playing field in favor of the middle class. one person has called the "WSJ" 'quaintly reactionary'. and it is. Ad hominem argument. said the only man in america who doesn't know the political orientation of the WSJ. hint: it aint the 'pennysaver'. The WSJ, Forbes, Investors...et cetera, all push the extreme right wing position at all times. Meanwhile, Obama gives $2 billion to an oil company in Brazil whose main shareholder is ..........George Soros. This is while the Dems forbid offshore drilling here. It's far from the quick fix some on the right think it is, nor is it a guarantee of oil independency But it provides greater latitude and mobility. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access It is amusing to hear from people who think Daily Kos is "Fair and balanced". Almost as amusing as people thinking that Fox News is "Fair and balanced". It is. The news. Not the commentators, except for O'Reilly. He's fair and balanced. Now NBC on the other hand... -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous |
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On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:43:15 -0400, NotNow wrote:
Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 3:19 pm, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 11:27 am, wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:17:28 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:27:37 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 10:21 am, Frogwatch wrote: Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288... I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. If this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the maximum amount. I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy the US economy and force us into socialism. Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I cannot find the source. The IRS has long had the capacity, under the beneficent oversight of our glorious lawmakers, to make criminals of innocent citizens. This is why a national sales tax as opposed to a personal income tax is an imperative. Having owned a manufactuing concern for a number of years, I'm all too well aware of the unwarranted burden the government has put on small business and the individual through the vehicle of an indifferent government agency. It's a repugnant oppression of the individual, and the "compassionate" Left wants to enhance our individual tax experience. The IRS should be dismantled if for no other reason than to take it out of the hands of the politician as a conveniently persistent political issue. Whatever happened to that country of liberty that our founding fathers fought so hard to create? -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access Do you actually believe it will be an either or situation? If the Obamadytes get a national sales tax they will give up the income tax? That is exactly the argument made in Indiana in the 1966, when a 2% sales tax was approve. In return the personal property tax on auto was eliminated. HOWEVER with in a couple of years auto were again subject to a high tax with a different name. Net results Indiana now has a 7% sales tax and you pay several time the what you use to pay for the personal property tax on your auto (based on the price of the auto) to get it licensed. What I wrote was what I believe to be a necessary alternative to the current tax structure. I know intuitively that our government will never surrender or dramatically overhaul the tax system as it stands. It's too convenient of a tool and a weapon for our politicians, for those that are proponents of expanded government and those that aren't. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access Here is more about the lefts attempts to actively destroy the economic engine so as to force us into socialism: http://www.forbes.com/2009/08/19/fac...ons-steve-forb... Destroy Venture Capital and you destroy any chance of a new Google or Apple, etc. Sooner or later, everybody will have to work for the govt. Yes, and don't forget, we want to kill your elderly with a death panel, make devil worship the official religion, let all criminals go free, lock up all Christians, destroy families, and kill work ethic, and on and on and friggin on...... It's funny how you take fringe people and paint all mainstream repubs with the brush.. I don't paint you with Bill Ayers, Crazy Enfume, Al Sharpton, and any of the hundred or so other real haters in congress or millions in the country. It wouldn't be fair to do that to anyone... Scotty!!! You have stated right HERE that there's a "death panel" and that liberals want to take elderly off of life support. John has done the same. Besides, you and John also paint all liberals with the same brush, so why is it wrong if I do it, but okay if you do? Oh, I remember, conservative = good, liberal = bad. I paint lefties as "bad" due to the blood of 100 million people murdered under communism that was supported by lefties. You cannot allow such poor judgement to happen again. These lefties still support Chavez and Castro and WOULD MAKE THE SAME MISTAKES AGAIN. It's okay, Bush killed people in Iraq, remember? Hide you elderly, we're out to euthanise them, the lying conservatives on TV told you so! and babies. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous |
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