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"JLH" wrote in message ... On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 15:21:31 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "JLH" wrote in message . .. On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:56:07 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "H the K" wrote in message news:ecGdnRxEGfknvAjXnZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d@earthlin k.com... wf3h wrote: On Aug 26, 7:01 am, thunder wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:21:09 -0700, Frogwatch wrote: Here is more about the lefts attempts to actively destroy the economic engine so as to force us into socialism: while socialism is a failure, those who extoll the virtues of the 'free market' haven't been paying attention to the news for the last year. What works is a hybrid system. Here's an example. Switzerland is probably the most capitalistic country on the planet. Yet it has a national health care program with several rungs on that ladder for coverage, and a plethora of private supplemental programs you can buy if you wish. No one calls Switzerland a "socialistic" country. Sadly, in this country, we are plagued with tens of millions of virtually illiterate simpletons who tend to believe the sort of nonsense righties are dumping on them in order to try to defeat significant health care reform. They're tools, pawns, if you will, in the game to maintain the status quo for the very wealthy. We have a handful of those pawns in this very newsgroup. Switzerland, even though it uses 3 different languages is a very homogenous country, high literacy and little immigration of unskilled masses. Also a very rich country. As despots have always needed a place to store their money. Secrecy in banking and pay little or no interest. Unless you just don't like your money, don't ever order 'Swiss Fondue' in a Swiss restaurant. We made that mistake once. It's a beautiful country to ride through, but northern Italy has the Dolomites which are just as beautiful. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous Actually there is reasonable fondue. Just have to know some locals to steer you. Raclatte is never cheap. But lots of labor with that dinner. Being I was on expense account and still did not think the fondue was that bad. Other meals were. The other side of the Pyrenees in France is also beautiful. Around Po and Lourdes is fantastic scenery. Actually all the mountains on the Northern Italian border are great. My wife's Great Grandmother was from Ticino provence of Switzerland. Which is about 20 miles from Lake Como. Steep canyon with large clear river running through it. The Moto Guzzi factory is in Mandello del Lario, which is on Lake Como. Perhaps you're familiar with Splugen Pass. My wife became semi-famous for being a female who rode her motorcycle over the pass. It looked like a good shortcut. It scared me ****less. Some great pictures of the road. http://tinyurl.com/mcpzq4 -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous Bodio is the village she left. Is in the Canyon the main train from Switzerland travels through. I normally take trains in Europe and rent a car for a day or 2 if needed. |
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On Aug 27, 1:02*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message Both parties are guilty. And things are not improving. With the current administration spending like a drunken sailor, as did the previous administration Reply: So it is OK to over spend now?- so it's OK to blame only obama? |
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"wf3h" wrote in message ... On Aug 26, 4:00 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message ... On Aug 26, 9:33 am, Jeem wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 26, 8:46 am, Jeem wrote: wf3h wrote: you guys have NO sense of history at all, even if the history is less than 10 months old... How could my boy trash anything without the help of congress? oh. you didn't know that the GOP controlled congress for 6 of the last 8 years. no wonder you want to blame the democrats. you don't have a clue in hell who's running the country. Focus on now and the future. ah!! so THAT'S the secret! forget the past! forget the CAUSE!! just blame it on the democrats. kind of like saying that if you smoked for 40 years and get lung cancer, just forget WHY you have lung cancer. Learn from history. Don't make the same mistakes over and over. history. that means looking at the CAUSE of the situation we're in. you seem to think history started 8 months ago. Look forward to the day Americans say enough of this bull**** from Congress and the Administration and demand responsible and responsive government.- then stop blaming obama and focus on why we're where we're at. Let me sum it up for you. Obama is merely a symptom of the disease.- the GOP was its cause. Both parties are guilty. And things are not improving. With the current administration spending like a drunken sailor, as did the previous administration Reply: So it is OK to over spend now? No, but gee, most conservatives here didn't say much about it when it WAS happening before. |
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On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:39:27 -0700 (PDT), wf3h
wrote: On Aug 27, 1:02*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message Both parties are guilty. And things are not improving. With the current administration spending like a drunken sailor, as did the previous administration Reply: So it is OK to over spend now?- so it's OK to blame only obama? Yo NomDePlume - *This* is an example of using the 'Bush Rationale'. -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson |
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On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:08:28 -0400, NotNow wrote:
snipped No, but gee, most conservatives here didn't say much about it when it WAS happening before. Yo Plume! Another example of the Bush Rationale. -- John H "The democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not." Thomas Jefferson |
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On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 14:08:28 -0400, NotNow wrote: snipped No, but gee, most conservatives here didn't say much about it when it WAS happening before. Yo Plume! Another example of the Bush Rationale. -- John H Yo Plume! Another example of the liberal Rationale. |
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On Aug 27, 3:34*pm, JLH wrote:
On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:39:27 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 27, 1:02*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message Both parties are guilty. And things are not improving. With the current administration spending like a drunken sailor, as did the previous administration Reply: So it is OK to over spend now?- so it's OK to blame only obama? Yo NomDePlume - *This* is an example of using the 'Bush Rationale'. -- hmmm...seems an 'obama' rationale is fine but god forbid the guy who actually screwed up the economy should get the blame. |
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On Aug 27, 3:34 pm, JLH wrote: On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:39:27 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 27, 1:02 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message Both parties are guilty. And things are not improving. With the current administration spending like a drunken sailor, as did the previous administration Reply: So it is OK to over spend now?- so it's OK to blame only obama? Yo NomDePlume - *This* is an example of using the 'Bush Rationale'. -- hmmm...seems an 'obama' rationale is fine but god forbid the guy who actually screwed up the economy should get the blame. No offense, fellas, but why does anyone take these way over the top righties here seriously? I see second hand that our boy herring would consider spitting on a grave at arlington. What else do you need to know about that sort of trash? |
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On Aug 27, 1:02 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message Both parties are guilty. And things are not improving. With the current administration spending like a drunken sailor, as did the previous administration Reply: So it is OK to over spend now?- so it's OK to blame only obama? Doesn't the buck stop at Obama's desk now or does Obama have a time machine to teleport it back to Bush? |
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On Aug 28, 7:49*am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote: On Aug 27, 1:02 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message Both parties are guilty. And things are not improving. With the current administration spending like a drunken sailor, as did the previous administration Reply: So it is OK to over spend now?- so it's OK to blame only obama? Doesn't the buck stop at Obama's desk now or does Obama have a time machine to teleport it back to Bush? do you also blame the police officer for arresting the criminal, or the surgeon for cutting out a cancer? |
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On Aug 28, 7:49 am, BAR wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 27, 1:02 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message Both parties are guilty. And things are not improving. With the current administration spending like a drunken sailor, as did the previous administration Reply: So it is OK to over spend now?- so it's OK to blame only obama? Doesn't the buck stop at Obama's desk now or does Obama have a time machine to teleport it back to Bush? do you also blame the police officer for arresting the criminal, or the surgeon for cutting out a cancer? One of the definitions of blame is appropriate. Yes, I hold responsible the police officer for arresting the criminal and I hold responsible the surgeon for cutting out a cancer. |
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On Aug 28, 8:52*am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote: do *you also blame the police officer for arresting the criminal, or the surgeon for cutting out a cancer? One of the definitions of blame is appropriate. Yes, I hold responsible the police officer for arresting the criminal and I hold responsible the surgeon for cutting out a cancer.- well i guess one should never expect too much from redneck logic. |
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wf3h wrote: On Aug 28, 7:49 am, BAR wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 27, 1:02 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message Both parties are guilty. And things are not improving. With the current administration spending like a drunken sailor, as did the previous administration Reply: So it is OK to over spend now?- so it's OK to blame only obama? Doesn't the buck stop at Obama's desk now or does Obama have a time machine to teleport it back to Bush? do you also blame the police officer for arresting the criminal, or the surgeon for cutting out a cancer? One of the definitions of blame is appropriate. Yes, I hold responsible the police officer for arresting the criminal and I hold responsible the surgeon for cutting out a cancer. Most thinking people realize it is going to take Obama years to clean up the messes left by his predecessor. |
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On Aug 28, 8:52 am, BAR wrote: wf3h wrote: do you also blame the police officer for arresting the criminal, or the surgeon for cutting out a cancer? One of the definitions of blame is appropriate. Yes, I hold responsible the police officer for arresting the criminal and I hold responsible the surgeon for cutting out a cancer.- well i guess one should never expect too much from redneck logic. You're expecting intelligence from someone who couldn't get into college, joined the marines, and was so good at that, he never got an overseas posting? |
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wf3h wrote: On Aug 28, 8:52 am, BAR wrote: wf3h wrote: do you also blame the police officer for arresting the criminal, or the surgeon for cutting out a cancer? One of the definitions of blame is appropriate. Yes, I hold responsible the police officer for arresting the criminal and I hold responsible the surgeon for cutting out a cancer.- well i guess one should never expect too much from redneck logic. You're expecting intelligence from someone who couldn't get into college, joined the marines, and was so good at that, he never got an overseas posting? Harry at least my name is on the title to my house. How much does Karen charge you for rent each month? |
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H the K wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 28, 8:52 am, BAR wrote: wf3h wrote: do you also blame the police officer for arresting the criminal, or the surgeon for cutting out a cancer? One of the definitions of blame is appropriate. Yes, I hold responsible the police officer for arresting the criminal and I hold responsible the surgeon for cutting out a cancer.- well i guess one should never expect too much from redneck logic. You're expecting intelligence from someone who couldn't get into college, joined the marines, and was so good at that, he never got an overseas posting? Harry at least my name is on the title to my house. How much does Karen charge you for rent each month? Ahhh...I see you are still Mr. Simple-Minded. |
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On Aug 28, 8:58*am, H the K wrote:
Most thinking people realize it is going to take Obama years to clean up the messes left by his predecessor.- seems the right thinks he should have had it cleared up by 12:05 on jan. 20. and they bitch about EVERYTHING he does... |
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On Aug 28, 8:58 am, H the K wrote: Most thinking people realize it is going to take Obama years to clean up the messes left by his predecessor.- seems the right thinks he should have had it cleared up by 12:05 on jan. 20. and they bitch about EVERYTHING he does... The reality, which the Repubs are working so hard to deny: Every single issue and problem this country faces is the result of nonfeasance, malfeasance, and misfeasance on the part of the Bush Administration. All the GOP has to sell these days is fear. Imagine how sad your situation is when your "salesmen" are the likes of JustWait, herring, jackoff, lu-ser, and the rest of the aging white trash that makes up the majority of the right here. |
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BAR wrote: H the K wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 28, 8:52 am, BAR wrote: wf3h wrote: do you also blame the police officer for arresting the criminal, or the surgeon for cutting out a cancer? One of the definitions of blame is appropriate. Yes, I hold responsible the police officer for arresting the criminal and I hold responsible the surgeon for cutting out a cancer.- well i guess one should never expect too much from redneck logic. You're expecting intelligence from someone who couldn't get into college, joined the marines, and was so good at that, he never got an overseas posting? Harry at least my name is on the title to my house. How much does Karen charge you for rent each month? Ahhh...I see you are still Mr. Simple-Minded. Why didn't Karen let you put your name on the title to the house? |
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H the K wrote: BAR wrote: H the K wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 28, 8:52 am, BAR wrote: wf3h wrote: do you also blame the police officer for arresting the criminal, or the surgeon for cutting out a cancer? One of the definitions of blame is appropriate. Yes, I hold responsible the police officer for arresting the criminal and I hold responsible the surgeon for cutting out a cancer.- well i guess one should never expect too much from redneck logic. You're expecting intelligence from someone who couldn't get into college, joined the marines, and was so good at that, he never got an overseas posting? Harry at least my name is on the title to my house. How much does Karen charge you for rent each month? Ahhh...I see you are still Mr. Simple-Minded. Why didn't Karen let you put your name on the title to the house? I see you are still Mr. Simple-Minded. |
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H the K wrote: BAR wrote: H the K wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 28, 8:52 am, BAR wrote: wf3h wrote: do you also blame the police officer for arresting the criminal, or the surgeon for cutting out a cancer? One of the definitions of blame is appropriate. Yes, I hold responsible the police officer for arresting the criminal and I hold responsible the surgeon for cutting out a cancer.- well i guess one should never expect too much from redneck logic. You're expecting intelligence from someone who couldn't get into college, joined the marines, and was so good at that, he never got an overseas posting? Harry at least my name is on the title to my house. How much does Karen charge you for rent each month? Ahhh...I see you are still Mr. Simple-Minded. Why didn't Karen let you put your name on the title to the house? If you were her..why would she? |
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BAR wrote: H the K wrote: BAR wrote: H the K wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 28, 8:52 am, BAR wrote: wf3h wrote: do you also blame the police officer for arresting the criminal, or the surgeon for cutting out a cancer? One of the definitions of blame is appropriate. Yes, I hold responsible the police officer for arresting the criminal and I hold responsible the surgeon for cutting out a cancer.- well i guess one should never expect too much from redneck logic. You're expecting intelligence from someone who couldn't get into college, joined the marines, and was so good at that, he never got an overseas posting? Harry at least my name is on the title to my house. How much does Karen charge you for rent each month? Ahhh...I see you are still Mr. Simple-Minded. Why didn't Karen let you put your name on the title to the house? If you were her..why would she? True dat! |
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"wf3h" wrote in message ... On Aug 27, 1:02 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message Both parties are guilty. And things are not improving. With the current administration spending like a drunken sailor, as did the previous administration Reply: So it is OK to over spend now?- so it's OK to blame only obama? I already blamed both parties. Obama is taking the spending to another even higher level. And the jobs are still disappearing. The numbers may be slowing, but that is most likely because the number of jobs has shrunk a lot. |
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"wf3h" wrote in message ... On Aug 27, 3:34 pm, JLH wrote: On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:39:27 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 27, 1:02 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message Both parties are guilty. And things are not improving. With the current administration spending like a drunken sailor, as did the previous administration Reply: So it is OK to over spend now?- so it's OK to blame only obama? Yo NomDePlume - *This* is an example of using the 'Bush Rationale'. -- hmmm...seems an 'obama' rationale is fine but god forbid the guy who actually screwed up the economy should get the blame. Reply: And that guy would be? Bush, Clinton, Bush1. and on back a ways. |
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message m... "wf3h" wrote in message ... On Aug 27, 1:02 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message Both parties are guilty. And things are not improving. With the current administration spending like a drunken sailor, as did the previous administration Reply: So it is OK to over spend now?- so it's OK to blame only obama? I already blamed both parties. Obama is taking the spending to another even higher level. And the jobs are still disappearing. The numbers may be slowing, but that is most likely because the number of jobs has shrunk a lot. And because the people who are no longer seeking work because they have given up and those whose unemployment has run out are not being counted. Steve |
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message m... "wf3h" wrote in message ... On Aug 27, 3:34 pm, JLH wrote: On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:39:27 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 27, 1:02 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message Both parties are guilty. And things are not improving. With the current administration spending like a drunken sailor, as did the previous administration Reply: So it is OK to over spend now?- so it's OK to blame only obama? Yo NomDePlume - *This* is an example of using the 'Bush Rationale'. -- hmmm...seems an 'obama' rationale is fine but god forbid the guy who actually screwed up the economy should get the blame. Reply: And that guy would be? Bush, Clinton, Bush1. and on back a ways. I am going to have to do the math. What has Obama spent in less than a year compared to what Bush spent in four? Class? Class? (Imagine Ben Stein's voiceover.) Steve |
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... "Calif Bill" wrote in message m... "wf3h" wrote in message ... On Aug 27, 3:34 pm, JLH wrote: On Thu, 27 Aug 2009 10:39:27 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 27, 1:02 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message Both parties are guilty. And things are not improving. With the current administration spending like a drunken sailor, as did the previous administration Reply: So it is OK to over spend now?- so it's OK to blame only obama? Yo NomDePlume - *This* is an example of using the 'Bush Rationale'. -- hmmm...seems an 'obama' rationale is fine but god forbid the guy who actually screwed up the economy should get the blame. Reply: And that guy would be? Bush, Clinton, Bush1. and on back a ways. I am going to have to do the math. What has Obama spent in less than a year compared to what Bush spent in four? Class? Class? (Imagine Ben Stein's voiceover.) Obama is not in charge of spending. That would be Congress. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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... Obama is not in charge of spending. That would be Congress. That would be Pelosi (speaker) and Rangel (ways and means chair) so I suppose you can blame them for the deficit spending since Jan 6, 2007. At least that's a bit more accurate. Of course, it's more complicated than that. The whole of Congress had to vote on it, and then Pres. Bush had to sign it for it become law. So, if you want you can blame Congress, but the president has a voice also. The president submits a proposed budget. Congress mushes it through their processes and procedures, and out pops the sausage, which is either eaten or rejected by the president. Sorry... this is the version I tell the kids. lol -- Nom=de=Plume |
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... On Wed, 9 Sep 2009 11:41:18 -0700, "nom=de=plume" wrote: At least that's a bit more accurate. Of course, it's more complicated than that. The whole of Congress had to vote on it, and then Pres. Bush had to sign it for it become law. So, if you want you can blame Congress, but the president has a voice also. Just keep all of that in mind when you blame the GOP for the deregulation in the 90s. There is always plenty of blame to go around. When I? I blame both parties, but more so the "free market" wackos. Even Greenspan admitted he was wrong. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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