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Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 12:35 pm, H the K wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 11:13 am, wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:54:16 -0700 (PDT), wf3h wrote: On Aug 25, 10:27 am, Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 10:21 am, Frogwatch wrote: Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288... I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. If this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the maximum amount. I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy the US economy and force us into socialism. Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I cannot find the source. first of all, the WSJ is hardly an objective source. it's a cheering section for the folks who got us into this mess in the first place further, it's their goal to oppose ANY provisions which level the playing field in favor of the middle class. one person has called the "WSJ" 'quaintly reactionary'. and it is. Ad hominem argument. said the only man in america who doesn't know the political orientation of the WSJ. hint: it aint the 'pennysaver'. The WSJ, Forbes, Investors...et cetera, all push the extreme right wing position at all times. Meanwhile, Obama gives $2 billion to an oil company in Brazil whose main shareholder is ..........George Soros. This is while the Dems forbid offshore drilling here. It's far from the quick fix some on the right think it is, nor is it a guarantee of oil independency Drilling in our own oil fields will keep the money we spend on oil within the US. It will also reduce the need for tankers to traverse the waters where pirates are known to operate. Drilling in our own oil fields has many benefits. |
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In article , says... JustWait wrote: In article , says... Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 11:27 am, wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:17:28 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:27:37 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 10:21 am, Frogwatch wrote: Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288... I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. If this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the maximum amount. I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy the US economy and force us into socialism. Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I cannot find the source. The IRS has long had the capacity, under the beneficent oversight of our glorious lawmakers, to make criminals of innocent citizens. This is why a national sales tax as opposed to a personal income tax is an imperative. Having owned a manufactuing concern for a number of years, I'm all too well aware of the unwarranted burden the government has put on small business and the individual through the vehicle of an indifferent government agency. It's a repugnant oppression of the individual, and the "compassionate" Left wants to enhance our individual tax experience. The IRS should be dismantled if for no other reason than to take it out of the hands of the politician as a conveniently persistent political issue. Whatever happened to that country of liberty that our founding fathers fought so hard to create? -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access Do you actually believe it will be an either or situation? If the Obamadytes get a national sales tax they will give up the income tax? That is exactly the argument made in Indiana in the 1966, when a 2% sales tax was approve. In return the personal property tax on auto was eliminated. HOWEVER with in a couple of years auto were again subject to a high tax with a different name. Net results Indiana now has a 7% sales tax and you pay several time the what you use to pay for the personal property tax on your auto (based on the price of the auto) to get it licensed. What I wrote was what I believe to be a necessary alternative to the current tax structure. I know intuitively that our government will never surrender or dramatically overhaul the tax system as it stands. It's too convenient of a tool and a weapon for our politicians, for those that are proponents of expanded government and those that aren't. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access Here is more about the lefts attempts to actively destroy the economic engine so as to force us into socialism: http://www.forbes.com/2009/08/19/fac...ve-forbes.html Destroy Venture Capital and you destroy any chance of a new Google or Apple, etc. Sooner or later, everybody will have to work for the govt. Yes, and don't forget, we want to kill your elderly with a death panel, make devil worship the official religion, let all criminals go free, lock up all Christians, destroy families, and kill work ethic, and on and on and friggin on...... It's funny how you take fringe people and paint all mainstream repubs with the brush.. I don't paint you with Bill Ayers, Crazy Enfume, Al Sharpton, and any of the hundred or so other real haters in congress or millions in the country. It wouldn't be fair to do that to anyone... Scotty!!! You have stated right HERE that there's a "death panel" and that liberals want to take elderly off of life support. NOPE... didn't happen. John has done the same. Besides, you and John also paint all liberals with the same brush, NOPE, can't speak for John, but I have not done that.. I have given you lists on both sides.. period. You are painting me with some of the more vocal rithties in the group. Good honest people that they are I consider it a compliment, but I did not do what you say I did... Who said these:? These included such items of tort reform, cross state purchasing, and several other items Liberals don't want... Here you go man, just one video of what the democrats call "Patriots"... |
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... Why did they take the death panel's out of the legislation if they didn't exist? The Democrats in Congress didn't want Republican-inspired legislation to pollute the bill? -- Nom=de=Plume |
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... Drilling in our own oil fields will keep the money we spend on oil within the US. It will also reduce the need for tankers to traverse the waters where pirates are known to operate. Nope. It's a global oil market. Econ 101. Only a tiny, tiny percentage of tankers have a problem with pirates. Of course, if you even took 5 minutes to check, you would find the facts. -- Nom=de=Plume |
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"H the K" wrote in message m... Calif Bill wrote: "H the K" wrote in message m... H the K wrote: Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 10:21 am, Frogwatch wrote: Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288... I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. If this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the maximum amount. I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy the US economy and force us into socialism. Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I cannot find the source. You should call your doctor and see if you can get your meds changed. Else, check yourself into the NE Florida State Hospital. You'd do better there than at the hospital in Chattahoochee. :) In Macclenney... That where you are traveling for your the death panel hearing? No, Bilious...I have *high quality* health insurance. The panel will come to me. I understand they're going to meet you at the shape-up lot at Home Depot. I have great insurance. And what really ****es you off is your wife who works is paying for it. |
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On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:21:09 -0700, Frogwatch wrote:
Here is more about the lefts attempts to actively destroy the economic engine so as to force us into socialism: BS, everyone knows, or should, the economy runs better under a Democratic administration, than a Republican one. http://www.eriposte.com/economy/other/demovsrep.htm http://www.berkeleydaily.org/issue/2...-or-Democrats- |
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On Aug 26, 7:01*am, thunder wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:21:09 -0700, Frogwatch wrote: Here is more about the lefts attempts to actively destroy the economic engine so as to force us into socialism: while socialism is a failure, those who extoll the virtues of the 'free market' haven't been paying attention to the news for the last year. |
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On Aug 26, 7:01 am, thunder wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:21:09 -0700, Frogwatch wrote: Here is more about the lefts attempts to actively destroy the economic engine so as to force us into socialism: while socialism is a failure, those who extoll the virtues of the 'free market' haven't been paying attention to the news for the last year. What works is a hybrid system. Here's an example. Switzerland is probably the most capitalistic country on the planet. Yet it has a national health care program with several rungs on that ladder for coverage, and a plethora of private supplemental programs you can buy if you wish. No one calls Switzerland a "socialistic" country. Sadly, in this country, we are plagued with tens of millions of virtually illiterate simpletons who tend to believe the sort of nonsense righties are dumping on them in order to try to defeat significant health care reform. They're tools, pawns, if you will, in the game to maintain the status quo for the very wealthy. We have a handful of those pawns in this very newsgroup. |
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wf3h wrote: On Aug 26, 7:01 am, thunder wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:21:09 -0700, Frogwatch wrote: Here is more about the lefts attempts to actively destroy the economic engine so as to force us into socialism: while socialism is a failure, those who extoll the virtues of the 'free market' haven't been paying attention to the news for the last year. What works is a hybrid system. Here's an example. Switzerland is probably the most capitalistic country on the planet. Yet it has a national health care program with several rungs on that ladder for coverage, and a plethora of private supplemental programs you can buy if you wish. No one calls Switzerland a "socialistic" country. Sadly, in this country, we are plagued with tens of millions of virtually illiterate simpletons who tend to believe the sort of nonsense righties are dumping on them in order to try to defeat significant health care reform. They're tools, pawns, if you will, in the game to maintain the status quo for the very wealthy. We have a handful of those pawns in this very newsgroup. Those illiterate simpletons Are the ones that got your boy where he is today. Hope and change.Thats his bumper sticker. That's his platform. That's all he had to say, and the simpletons bought it. Now the strategy is change and hope. Brilliant! How's that working out for you WAFA? |
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"BAR" wrote in message ... Why did they take the death panel's out of the legislation if they didn't exist? The Democrats in Congress didn't want Republican-inspired legislation to pollute the bill? Nice of you to admit that the legislation contained death panels. |
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On Aug 26, 8:17*am, Jeem wrote:
H the K wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 26, 7:01 am, thunder wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:21:09 -0700, Frogwatch wrote: Here is more about the lefts attempts to actively destroy the economic engine so as to force us into socialism: while socialism is a failure, those who extoll the virtues of the 'free market' haven't been paying attention to the news for the last year. What works is a hybrid system. Here's an example. Switzerland is probably the most capitalistic country on the planet. Yet it has a national health care program with several rungs on that ladder for coverage, and a plethora of private supplemental programs you can buy if you wish. No one calls Switzerland a "socialistic" country. Sadly, in this country, we are plagued with tens of millions of virtually illiterate simpletons who tend to believe the sort of nonsense righties are dumping on them in order to try to defeat significant health care reform. They're tools, pawns, if you will, in the game to maintain the status quo for the very wealthy. We have a handful of those pawns in this very newsgroup. Those illiterate simpletons Are the ones that got your boy where he is today. Hope and change. actually...no. they're the ones who are inventing lies about 'death panels' and birth certificates...bizarre, crazed fantasies that show just how delusional the right wing is. Thats his bumper sticker. That's his platform. That's all he had to say, and the simpletons bought it. Now the strategy * is change and hope. Brilliant! How's that working out for you WAFA?- ?? your boy trashed the economy and stole the retirement income i worked so hard to get. he gave it to his buddies at goldman sachs, shearson lehman, etc. you guys have NO sense of history at all, even if the history is less than 10 months old... |
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wf3h wrote:
On Aug 26, 8:17 am, Jeem wrote: H the K wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 26, 7:01 am, thunder wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:21:09 -0700, Frogwatch wrote: Here is more about the lefts attempts to actively destroy the economic engine so as to force us into socialism: while socialism is a failure, those who extoll the virtues of the 'free market' haven't been paying attention to the news for the last year. What works is a hybrid system. Here's an example. Switzerland is probably the most capitalistic country on the planet. Yet it has a national health care program with several rungs on that ladder for coverage, and a plethora of private supplemental programs you can buy if you wish. No one calls Switzerland a "socialistic" country. Sadly, in this country, we are plagued with tens of millions of virtually illiterate simpletons who tend to believe the sort of nonsense righties are dumping on them in order to try to defeat significant health care reform. They're tools, pawns, if you will, in the game to maintain the status quo for the very wealthy. We have a handful of those pawns in this very newsgroup. Those illiterate simpletons Are the ones that got your boy where he is today. Hope and change. actually...no. they're the ones who are inventing lies about 'death panels' and birth certificates...bizarre, crazed fantasies that show just how delusional the right wing is. What happens to all of the executive orders and bills and presidential commissions, and appointments that Obama made if he is in fact not a natural born citizen of the USA? Thats his bumper sticker. That's his platform. That's all he had to say, and the simpletons bought it. Now the strategy is change and hope. Brilliant! How's that working out for you WAFA?- ?? your boy trashed the economy and stole the retirement income i worked so hard to get. he gave it to his buddies at goldman sachs, shearson lehman, etc. I didn't know McDonald's had a retirement plan for guys sweeping the lobby and taking out the trash. you guys have NO sense of history at all, even if the history is less than 10 months old... History? We remember Carter. |
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On Aug 26, 8:17 am, Jeem wrote: H the K wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 26, 7:01 am, thunder wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:21:09 -0700, Frogwatch wrote: Here is more about the lefts attempts to actively destroy the economic engine so as to force us into socialism: while socialism is a failure, those who extoll the virtues of the 'free market' haven't been paying attention to the news for the last year. What works is a hybrid system. Here's an example. Switzerland is probably the most capitalistic country on the planet. Yet it has a national health care program with several rungs on that ladder for coverage, and a plethora of private supplemental programs you can buy if you wish. No one calls Switzerland a "socialistic" country. Sadly, in this country, we are plagued with tens of millions of virtually illiterate simpletons who tend to believe the sort of nonsense righties are dumping on them in order to try to defeat significant health care reform. They're tools, pawns, if you will, in the game to maintain the status quo for the very wealthy. We have a handful of those pawns in this very newsgroup. Those illiterate simpletons Are the ones that got your boy where he is today. Hope and change. actually...no. they're the ones who are inventing lies about 'death panels' and birth certificates...bizarre, crazed fantasies that show just how delusional the right wing is. Thats his bumper sticker. That's his platform. That's all he had to say, and the simpletons bought it. Now the strategy is change and hope. Brilliant! How's that working out for you WAFA?- ?? your boy trashed the economy and stole the retirement income i worked so hard to get. he gave it to his buddies at goldman sachs, shearson lehman, etc. you guys have NO sense of history at all, even if the history is less than 10 months old... Which, of course, is one of the reasons why I don't "engage" the righties here in "debate," not that most of them have any idea what "debate" is, anyway. Floridajim, no matter his handle, is a bottom feeder. |
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On Aug 26, 8:25*am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote: On Aug 26, 8:17 am, Jeem wrote: H the K wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 26, 7:01 am, thunder wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:21:09 -0700, Frogwatch wrote: Here is more about the lefts attempts to actively destroy the economic engine so as to force us into socialism: while socialism is a failure, those who extoll the virtues of the 'free market' haven't been paying attention to the news for the last year. What works is a hybrid system. Here's an example. Switzerland is probably the most capitalistic country on the planet. Yet it has a national health care program with several rungs on that ladder for coverage, and a plethora of private supplemental programs you can buy if you wish. No one calls Switzerland a "socialistic" country. Sadly, in this country, we are plagued with tens of millions of virtually illiterate simpletons who tend to believe the sort of nonsense righties are dumping on them in order to try to defeat significant health care reform. They're tools, pawns, if you will, in the game to maintain the status quo for the very wealthy. We have a handful of those pawns in this very newsgroup. Those illiterate simpletons Are the ones that got your boy where he is today. Hope and change. actually...no. they're the ones who are inventing lies about 'death panels' and birth certificates...bizarre, crazed fantasies that show just how delusional the right wing is. What happens to all of the executive orders and bills and presidential commissions, and appointments that Obama made if he is in fact not a natural born citizen of the USA? Thats his bumper sticker. That's his platform. That's all he had to say, and the simpletons bought it. Now the strategy * is change and hope. Brilliant! How's that working out for you WAFA?- ?? your boy trashed the economy and stole the retirement income i worked so hard to get. he gave it to his buddies at goldman sachs, shearson lehman, etc. I didn't know McDonald's had a retirement plan for guys sweeping the lobby and taking out the trash. IOW, as i said, you hate hard work... you guys have NO sense of history at all, even if the history is less than 10 months old... History? We remember Carter.- and you forgot bush. typical of an alzheimer's patient. remembers 50 years ago, but not yesterday. |
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wf3h wrote:
On Aug 26, 8:17 am, Jeem wrote: H the K wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 26, 7:01 am, thunder wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:21:09 -0700, Frogwatch wrote: Here is more about the lefts attempts to actively destroy the economic engine so as to force us into socialism: while socialism is a failure, those who extoll the virtues of the 'free market' haven't been paying attention to the news for the last year. What works is a hybrid system. Here's an example. Switzerland is probably the most capitalistic country on the planet. Yet it has a national health care program with several rungs on that ladder for coverage, and a plethora of private supplemental programs you can buy if you wish. No one calls Switzerland a "socialistic" country. Sadly, in this country, we are plagued with tens of millions of virtually illiterate simpletons who tend to believe the sort of nonsense righties are dumping on them in order to try to defeat significant health care reform. They're tools, pawns, if you will, in the game to maintain the status quo for the very wealthy. We have a handful of those pawns in this very newsgroup. Those illiterate simpletons Are the ones that got your boy where he is today. Hope and change. actually...no. they're the ones who are inventing lies about 'death panels' and birth certificates...bizarre, crazed fantasies that show just how delusional the right wing is. Thats his bumper sticker. That's his platform. That's all he had to say, and the simpletons bought it. Now the strategy is change and hope. Brilliant! How's that working out for you WAFA?- ?? your boy trashed the economy and stole the retirement income i worked so hard to get. he gave it to his buddies at goldman sachs, shearson lehman, etc. you guys have NO sense of history at all, even if the history is less than 10 months old... How could my boy trash anything without the help of congress? Focus on now and the future. Learn from history. Don't make the same mistakes over and over. Look forward to the day Americans say enough of this bull**** from Congress and the Administration and demand responsible and responsive government. |
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On Aug 26, 8:46*am, Jeem wrote:
wf3h wrote: you guys have NO sense of history at all, even if the history is less than 10 months old... How could my boy trash anything without the help of congress? oh. you didn't know that the GOP controlled congress for 6 of the last 8 years. no wonder you want to blame the democrats. you don't have a clue in hell who's running the country. Focus on now and the future. ah!! so THAT'S the secret! forget the past! forget the CAUSE!! just blame it on the democrats. kind of like saying that if you smoked for 40 years and get lung cancer, just forget WHY you have lung cancer. Learn from history. Don't make the same mistakes over and over. history. that means looking at the CAUSE of the situation we're in. you seem to think history started 8 months ago. Look forward to the day Americans say enough of this bull**** from Congress and the Administration and demand responsible and responsive government.- then stop blaming obama and focus on why we're where we're at. |
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Mille GT Owner wrote:
On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 16:43:15 -0400, NotNow wrote: Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 3:19 pm, NotNow wrote: JustWait wrote: In article , says... Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 11:27 am, wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 11:17:28 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:27:37 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch wrote: On Aug 25, 10:21 am, Frogwatch wrote: Are you sure you want a bill with this provision to pass?http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...57435888264288... I do not think including this was an accident but was intentional. If this passes, ALL small businesses, the driver of our economy will be forced to close because we all make mistakes and will be fined the maximum amount. I believe this inclusion was intentional to destroy the US economy and force us into socialism. Kinda seems to be a whiff of blood and gunpowder in the air but I cannot find the source. The IRS has long had the capacity, under the beneficent oversight of our glorious lawmakers, to make criminals of innocent citizens. This is why a national sales tax as opposed to a personal income tax is an imperative. Having owned a manufactuing concern for a number of years, I'm all too well aware of the unwarranted burden the government has put on small business and the individual through the vehicle of an indifferent government agency. It's a repugnant oppression of the individual, and the "compassionate" Left wants to enhance our individual tax experience. The IRS should be dismantled if for no other reason than to take it out of the hands of the politician as a conveniently persistent political issue. Whatever happened to that country of liberty that our founding fathers fought so hard to create? -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access Do you actually believe it will be an either or situation? If the Obamadytes get a national sales tax they will give up the income tax? That is exactly the argument made in Indiana in the 1966, when a 2% sales tax was approve. In return the personal property tax on auto was eliminated. HOWEVER with in a couple of years auto were again subject to a high tax with a different name. Net results Indiana now has a 7% sales tax and you pay several time the what you use to pay for the personal property tax on your auto (based on the price of the auto) to get it licensed. What I wrote was what I believe to be a necessary alternative to the current tax structure. I know intuitively that our government will never surrender or dramatically overhaul the tax system as it stands. It's too convenient of a tool and a weapon for our politicians, for those that are proponents of expanded government and those that aren't. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access Here is more about the lefts attempts to actively destroy the economic engine so as to force us into socialism: http://www.forbes.com/2009/08/19/fac...ons-steve-forb... Destroy Venture Capital and you destroy any chance of a new Google or Apple, etc. Sooner or later, everybody will have to work for the govt. Yes, and don't forget, we want to kill your elderly with a death panel, make devil worship the official religion, let all criminals go free, lock up all Christians, destroy families, and kill work ethic, and on and on and friggin on...... It's funny how you take fringe people and paint all mainstream repubs with the brush.. I don't paint you with Bill Ayers, Crazy Enfume, Al Sharpton, and any of the hundred or so other real haters in congress or millions in the country. It wouldn't be fair to do that to anyone... Scotty!!! You have stated right HERE that there's a "death panel" and that liberals want to take elderly off of life support. John has done the same. Besides, you and John also paint all liberals with the same brush, so why is it wrong if I do it, but okay if you do? Oh, I remember, conservative = good, liberal = bad. I paint lefties as "bad" due to the blood of 100 million people murdered under communism that was supported by lefties. You cannot allow such poor judgement to happen again. These lefties still support Chavez and Castro and WOULD MAKE THE SAME MISTAKES AGAIN. It's okay, Bush killed people in Iraq, remember? Hide you elderly, we're out to euthanise them, the lying conservatives on TV told you so! and babies. -- John H Yeah, that's right, the lying conservatives told you that, too. |
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wf3h wrote:
On Aug 26, 8:46 am, Jeem wrote: wf3h wrote: you guys have NO sense of history at all, even if the history is less than 10 months old... How could my boy trash anything without the help of congress? oh. you didn't know that the GOP controlled congress for 6 of the last 8 years. no wonder you want to blame the democrats. you don't have a clue in hell who's running the country. Focus on now and the future. ah!! so THAT'S the secret! forget the past! forget the CAUSE!! just blame it on the democrats. kind of like saying that if you smoked for 40 years and get lung cancer, just forget WHY you have lung cancer. Learn from history. Don't make the same mistakes over and over. history. that means looking at the CAUSE of the situation we're in. you seem to think history started 8 months ago. Look forward to the day Americans say enough of this bull**** from Congress and the Administration and demand responsible and responsive government.- then stop blaming obama and focus on why we're where we're at. Let me sum it up for you. Obama is merely a symptom of the disease. |
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On Aug 26, 9:33*am, Jeem wrote:
wf3h wrote: On Aug 26, 8:46 am, Jeem wrote: wf3h wrote: you guys have NO sense of history at all, even if the history is less than 10 months old... How could my boy trash anything without the help of congress? oh. you didn't know that the GOP controlled congress for 6 of the last 8 years. no wonder you want to blame the democrats. *you don't have a clue in hell who's running the country. Focus on now and the future. ah!! so THAT'S the secret! forget the past! forget the CAUSE!! just blame it on the democrats. kind of like saying that if you smoked for 40 years and get lung cancer, just forget WHY you have lung cancer. *Learn from history. Don't make the same mistakes over and over. history. that means looking at the CAUSE of the situation we're in. you seem to think history started 8 months ago. *Look forward to the day Americans say enough of this bull**** from Congress and the Administration and demand responsible and responsive government.- then stop blaming obama and focus on why we're where we're at. Let me sum it up for you. Obama is merely a symptom of the disease.- the GOP was its cause. |
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In article , Bush killed people in Iraq, remember? Hide you elderly, we're out to euthanise them, the lying conservatives on TV told you so! Yeah, that's right, the lying conservatives told you that, too. Why would you even bother with someone who would say "Bush Killed people in Iraq".. that is just a silly statement in too many ways. First off, I don't think Bush even carried a weapon in Iraq, second, what about all the other Senators and Congressmen that voted to go to war? This is just silly bull****, I am out... Us liberals are going to eat your babies, too. Do you think that if Bush hadn't turned his attention to Iraq and stayed in Afghanistan where the Taliban was that all of the innocent people that got killed in the last few years at the hands of American soldiers would still have happened??? |
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 09:15:08 -0400, JustWait
wrote: In article , Bush killed people in Iraq, remember? Hide you elderly, we're out to euthanise them, the lying conservatives on TV told you so! Yeah, that's right, the lying conservatives told you that, too. Why would you even bother with someone who would say "Bush Killed people in Iraq".. that is just a silly statement in too many ways. First off, I don't think Bush even carried a weapon in Iraq, second, what about all the other Senators and Congressmen that voted to go to war? This is just silly bull****, I am out... Ditto. wf3h, loogy, the plumguy, and Harry are all sounding alike. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous |
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On Aug 26, 2:06*pm, U-joint Buster wrote:
On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 09:15:08 -0400, JustWait Why would you even bother with someone who would say "Bush Killed people in Iraq".. that is just a silly statement in too many ways. First off, I don't think Bush even carried a weapon in Iraq, second, what about all the other Senators and Congressmen that voted to go to war? This is just silly bull****, I am out... Ditto. wf3h, loogy, the plumguy, and Harry are all sounding alike. yeah, the truth does tend to have that effect... |
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"H the K" wrote in message m... wf3h wrote: On Aug 26, 7:01 am, thunder wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:21:09 -0700, Frogwatch wrote: Here is more about the lefts attempts to actively destroy the economic engine so as to force us into socialism: while socialism is a failure, those who extoll the virtues of the 'free market' haven't been paying attention to the news for the last year. What works is a hybrid system. Here's an example. Switzerland is probably the most capitalistic country on the planet. Yet it has a national health care program with several rungs on that ladder for coverage, and a plethora of private supplemental programs you can buy if you wish. No one calls Switzerland a "socialistic" country. Sadly, in this country, we are plagued with tens of millions of virtually illiterate simpletons who tend to believe the sort of nonsense righties are dumping on them in order to try to defeat significant health care reform. They're tools, pawns, if you will, in the game to maintain the status quo for the very wealthy. We have a handful of those pawns in this very newsgroup. Switzerland, even though it uses 3 different languages is a very homogenous country, high literacy and little immigration of unskilled masses. Also a very rich country. As despots have always needed a place to store their money. Secrecy in banking and pay little or no interest. |
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"H the K" wrote in message m... wf3h wrote: On Aug 26, 8:17 am, Jeem wrote: H the K wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 26, 7:01 am, thunder wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:21:09 -0700, Frogwatch wrote: Here is more about the lefts attempts to actively destroy the economic engine so as to force us into socialism: while socialism is a failure, those who extoll the virtues of the 'free market' haven't been paying attention to the news for the last year. What works is a hybrid system. Here's an example. Switzerland is probably the most capitalistic country on the planet. Yet it has a national health care program with several rungs on that ladder for coverage, and a plethora of private supplemental programs you can buy if you wish. No one calls Switzerland a "socialistic" country. Sadly, in this country, we are plagued with tens of millions of virtually illiterate simpletons who tend to believe the sort of nonsense righties are dumping on them in order to try to defeat significant health care reform. They're tools, pawns, if you will, in the game to maintain the status quo for the very wealthy. We have a handful of those pawns in this very newsgroup. Those illiterate simpletons Are the ones that got your boy where he is today. Hope and change. actually...no. they're the ones who are inventing lies about 'death panels' and birth certificates...bizarre, crazed fantasies that show just how delusional the right wing is. Thats his bumper sticker. That's his platform. That's all he had to say, and the simpletons bought it. Now the strategy is change and hope. Brilliant! How's that working out for you WAFA?- ?? your boy trashed the economy and stole the retirement income i worked so hard to get. he gave it to his buddies at goldman sachs, shearson lehman, etc. you guys have NO sense of history at all, even if the history is less than 10 months old... Which, of course, is one of the reasons why I don't "engage" the righties here in "debate," not that most of them have any idea what "debate" is, anyway. Floridajim, no matter his handle, is a bottom feeder. You do not debate as you would be out of your league. |
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"wf3h" wrote in message ... On Aug 26, 9:33 am, Jeem wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 26, 8:46 am, Jeem wrote: wf3h wrote: you guys have NO sense of history at all, even if the history is less than 10 months old... How could my boy trash anything without the help of congress? oh. you didn't know that the GOP controlled congress for 6 of the last 8 years. no wonder you want to blame the democrats. you don't have a clue in hell who's running the country. Focus on now and the future. ah!! so THAT'S the secret! forget the past! forget the CAUSE!! just blame it on the democrats. kind of like saying that if you smoked for 40 years and get lung cancer, just forget WHY you have lung cancer. Learn from history. Don't make the same mistakes over and over. history. that means looking at the CAUSE of the situation we're in. you seem to think history started 8 months ago. Look forward to the day Americans say enough of this bull**** from Congress and the Administration and demand responsible and responsive government.- then stop blaming obama and focus on why we're where we're at. Let me sum it up for you. Obama is merely a symptom of the disease.- the GOP was its cause. Both parties are guilty. And things are not improving. With the current administration spending like a drunken sailor, and looking like they will raise the debt to 1/3 our GDP in the next 3 years, we are screwed. Maybe it is time to toss both parties and get a couple of new ones in there. Trillons of bucks spent or committed and still no loan money, ever higher unemployment. Sad. Scary. |
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:56:07 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote: "H the K" wrote in message om... wf3h wrote: On Aug 26, 7:01 am, thunder wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:21:09 -0700, Frogwatch wrote: Here is more about the lefts attempts to actively destroy the economic engine so as to force us into socialism: while socialism is a failure, those who extoll the virtues of the 'free market' haven't been paying attention to the news for the last year. What works is a hybrid system. Here's an example. Switzerland is probably the most capitalistic country on the planet. Yet it has a national health care program with several rungs on that ladder for coverage, and a plethora of private supplemental programs you can buy if you wish. No one calls Switzerland a "socialistic" country. Sadly, in this country, we are plagued with tens of millions of virtually illiterate simpletons who tend to believe the sort of nonsense righties are dumping on them in order to try to defeat significant health care reform. They're tools, pawns, if you will, in the game to maintain the status quo for the very wealthy. We have a handful of those pawns in this very newsgroup. Switzerland, even though it uses 3 different languages is a very homogenous country, high literacy and little immigration of unskilled masses. Also a very rich country. As despots have always needed a place to store their money. Secrecy in banking and pay little or no interest. Unless you just don't like your money, don't ever order 'Swiss Fondue' in a Swiss restaurant. We made that mistake once. It's a beautiful country to ride through, but northern Italy has the Dolomites which are just as beautiful. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous |
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Calif Bill wrote:
"H the K" wrote in message m... wf3h wrote: On Aug 26, 8:17 am, Jeem wrote: H the K wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 26, 7:01 am, thunder wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:21:09 -0700, Frogwatch wrote: Here is more about the lefts attempts to actively destroy the economic engine so as to force us into socialism: while socialism is a failure, those who extoll the virtues of the 'free market' haven't been paying attention to the news for the last year. What works is a hybrid system. Here's an example. Switzerland is probably the most capitalistic country on the planet. Yet it has a national health care program with several rungs on that ladder for coverage, and a plethora of private supplemental programs you can buy if you wish. No one calls Switzerland a "socialistic" country. Sadly, in this country, we are plagued with tens of millions of virtually illiterate simpletons who tend to believe the sort of nonsense righties are dumping on them in order to try to defeat significant health care reform. They're tools, pawns, if you will, in the game to maintain the status quo for the very wealthy. We have a handful of those pawns in this very newsgroup. Those illiterate simpletons Are the ones that got your boy where he is today. Hope and change. actually...no. they're the ones who are inventing lies about 'death panels' and birth certificates...bizarre, crazed fantasies that show just how delusional the right wing is. Thats his bumper sticker. That's his platform. That's all he had to say, and the simpletons bought it. Now the strategy is change and hope. Brilliant! How's that working out for you WAFA?- ?? your boy trashed the economy and stole the retirement income i worked so hard to get. he gave it to his buddies at goldman sachs, shearson lehman, etc. you guys have NO sense of history at all, even if the history is less than 10 months old... Which, of course, is one of the reasons why I don't "engage" the righties here in "debate," not that most of them have any idea what "debate" is, anyway. Floridajim, no matter his handle, is a bottom feeder. You do not debate as you would be out of your league. Thanks...I needed a laugh. There are no "debaters" on the right in this newsgroup. The closest we had was Richard. All we have now are right-wing screamers and shouters, and absolutely complete political nincompoops like JustHate, Lu-ser, herring, flajim, froggy, you, et cetera. These turds wouldn't last 10 seconds in a real "debate," and simply aren't worth the bit of energy it takes to type here. There's no one here to debate. When I want political debate on the internet, I head to other places, where many sides are represented, and where the brain dead, the shouters, the screamers, and the uninformed lose their ability to log on, thanks to moderators who don't allow the forums to turn into right-wing (or left-wing) insult venues or scream-a-thons. |
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 16:46:26 -0400, H the K
wrote: Calif Bill wrote: deleted with finesse There's no one here to debate. When I want political debate on the internet, I head to other places, where many sides are represented, and where the brain dead, the shouters, the screamers, and the uninformed lose their ability to log on, ....and where the ad hominem goes unchallenged... -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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"H the K" wrote in message m... Calif Bill wrote: "H the K" wrote in message m... wf3h wrote: On Aug 26, 8:17 am, Jeem wrote: H the K wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 26, 7:01 am, thunder wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:21:09 -0700, Frogwatch wrote: Here is more about the lefts attempts to actively destroy the economic engine so as to force us into socialism: while socialism is a failure, those who extoll the virtues of the 'free market' haven't been paying attention to the news for the last year. What works is a hybrid system. Here's an example. Switzerland is probably the most capitalistic country on the planet. Yet it has a national health care program with several rungs on that ladder for coverage, and a plethora of private supplemental programs you can buy if you wish. No one calls Switzerland a "socialistic" country. Sadly, in this country, we are plagued with tens of millions of virtually illiterate simpletons who tend to believe the sort of nonsense righties are dumping on them in order to try to defeat significant health care reform. They're tools, pawns, if you will, in the game to maintain the status quo for the very wealthy. We have a handful of those pawns in this very newsgroup. Those illiterate simpletons Are the ones that got your boy where he is today. Hope and change. actually...no. they're the ones who are inventing lies about 'death panels' and birth certificates...bizarre, crazed fantasies that show just how delusional the right wing is. Thats his bumper sticker. That's his platform. That's all he had to say, and the simpletons bought it. Now the strategy is change and hope. Brilliant! How's that working out for you WAFA?- ?? your boy trashed the economy and stole the retirement income i worked so hard to get. he gave it to his buddies at goldman sachs, shearson lehman, etc. you guys have NO sense of history at all, even if the history is less than 10 months old... Which, of course, is one of the reasons why I don't "engage" the righties here in "debate," not that most of them have any idea what "debate" is, anyway. Floridajim, no matter his handle, is a bottom feeder. You do not debate as you would be out of your league. Thanks...I needed a laugh. There are no "debaters" on the right in this newsgroup. The closest we had was Richard. All we have now are right-wing screamers and shouters, and absolutely complete political nincompoops like JustHate, Lu-ser, herring, flajim, froggy, you, et cetera. These turds wouldn't last 10 seconds in a real "debate," and simply aren't worth the bit of energy it takes to type here. There's no one here to debate. When I want political debate on the internet, I head to other places, where many sides are represented, and where the brain dead, the shouters, the screamers, and the uninformed lose their ability to log on, thanks to moderators who don't allow the forums to turn into right-wing (or left-wing) insult venues or scream-a-thons. Well, that seems to be what you do here. |
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"JLH" wrote in message ... On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:56:07 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "H the K" wrote in message news:ecGdnRxEGfknvAjXnZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d@earthlink. com... wf3h wrote: On Aug 26, 7:01 am, thunder wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:21:09 -0700, Frogwatch wrote: Here is more about the lefts attempts to actively destroy the economic engine so as to force us into socialism: while socialism is a failure, those who extoll the virtues of the 'free market' haven't been paying attention to the news for the last year. What works is a hybrid system. Here's an example. Switzerland is probably the most capitalistic country on the planet. Yet it has a national health care program with several rungs on that ladder for coverage, and a plethora of private supplemental programs you can buy if you wish. No one calls Switzerland a "socialistic" country. Sadly, in this country, we are plagued with tens of millions of virtually illiterate simpletons who tend to believe the sort of nonsense righties are dumping on them in order to try to defeat significant health care reform. They're tools, pawns, if you will, in the game to maintain the status quo for the very wealthy. We have a handful of those pawns in this very newsgroup. Switzerland, even though it uses 3 different languages is a very homogenous country, high literacy and little immigration of unskilled masses. Also a very rich country. As despots have always needed a place to store their money. Secrecy in banking and pay little or no interest. Unless you just don't like your money, don't ever order 'Swiss Fondue' in a Swiss restaurant. We made that mistake once. It's a beautiful country to ride through, but northern Italy has the Dolomites which are just as beautiful. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous Actually there is reasonable fondue. Just have to know some locals to steer you. Raclatte is never cheap. But lots of labor with that dinner. Being I was on expense account and still did not think the fondue was that bad. Other meals were. The other side of the Pyrenees in France is also beautiful. Around Po and Lourdes is fantastic scenery. Actually all the mountains on the Northern Italian border are great. My wife's Great Grandmother was from Ticino provence of Switzerland. Which is about 20 miles from Lake Como. Steep canyon with large clear river running through it. |
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 15:21:31 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote: "JLH" wrote in message .. . On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:56:07 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "H the K" wrote in message news:ecGdnRxEGfknvAjXnZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d@earthlink .com... wf3h wrote: On Aug 26, 7:01 am, thunder wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:21:09 -0700, Frogwatch wrote: Here is more about the lefts attempts to actively destroy the economic engine so as to force us into socialism: while socialism is a failure, those who extoll the virtues of the 'free market' haven't been paying attention to the news for the last year. What works is a hybrid system. Here's an example. Switzerland is probably the most capitalistic country on the planet. Yet it has a national health care program with several rungs on that ladder for coverage, and a plethora of private supplemental programs you can buy if you wish. No one calls Switzerland a "socialistic" country. Sadly, in this country, we are plagued with tens of millions of virtually illiterate simpletons who tend to believe the sort of nonsense righties are dumping on them in order to try to defeat significant health care reform. They're tools, pawns, if you will, in the game to maintain the status quo for the very wealthy. We have a handful of those pawns in this very newsgroup. Switzerland, even though it uses 3 different languages is a very homogenous country, high literacy and little immigration of unskilled masses. Also a very rich country. As despots have always needed a place to store their money. Secrecy in banking and pay little or no interest. Unless you just don't like your money, don't ever order 'Swiss Fondue' in a Swiss restaurant. We made that mistake once. It's a beautiful country to ride through, but northern Italy has the Dolomites which are just as beautiful. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous Actually there is reasonable fondue. Just have to know some locals to steer you. Raclatte is never cheap. But lots of labor with that dinner. Being I was on expense account and still did not think the fondue was that bad. Other meals were. The other side of the Pyrenees in France is also beautiful. Around Po and Lourdes is fantastic scenery. Actually all the mountains on the Northern Italian border are great. My wife's Great Grandmother was from Ticino provence of Switzerland. Which is about 20 miles from Lake Como. Steep canyon with large clear river running through it. The Moto Guzzi factory is in Mandello del Lario, which is on Lake Como. Perhaps you're familiar with Splugen Pass. My wife became semi-famous for being a female who rode her motorcycle over the pass. It looked like a good shortcut. It scared me ****less. Some great pictures of the road. http://tinyurl.com/mcpzq4 -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous |
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 15:14:53 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote: "H the K" wrote in message om... Calif Bill wrote: "H the K" wrote in message m... wf3h wrote: On Aug 26, 8:17 am, Jeem wrote: H the K wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 26, 7:01 am, thunder wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:21:09 -0700, Frogwatch wrote: Here is more about the lefts attempts to actively destroy the economic engine so as to force us into socialism: while socialism is a failure, those who extoll the virtues of the 'free market' haven't been paying attention to the news for the last year. What works is a hybrid system. Here's an example. Switzerland is probably the most capitalistic country on the planet. Yet it has a national health care program with several rungs on that ladder for coverage, and a plethora of private supplemental programs you can buy if you wish. No one calls Switzerland a "socialistic" country. Sadly, in this country, we are plagued with tens of millions of virtually illiterate simpletons who tend to believe the sort of nonsense righties are dumping on them in order to try to defeat significant health care reform. They're tools, pawns, if you will, in the game to maintain the status quo for the very wealthy. We have a handful of those pawns in this very newsgroup. Those illiterate simpletons Are the ones that got your boy where he is today. Hope and change. actually...no. they're the ones who are inventing lies about 'death panels' and birth certificates...bizarre, crazed fantasies that show just how delusional the right wing is. Thats his bumper sticker. That's his platform. That's all he had to say, and the simpletons bought it. Now the strategy is change and hope. Brilliant! How's that working out for you WAFA?- ?? your boy trashed the economy and stole the retirement income i worked so hard to get. he gave it to his buddies at goldman sachs, shearson lehman, etc. you guys have NO sense of history at all, even if the history is less than 10 months old... Which, of course, is one of the reasons why I don't "engage" the righties here in "debate," not that most of them have any idea what "debate" is, anyway. Floridajim, no matter his handle, is a bottom feeder. You do not debate as you would be out of your league. Thanks...I needed a laugh. There are no "debaters" on the right in this newsgroup. The closest we had was Richard. All we have now are right-wing screamers and shouters, and absolutely complete political nincompoops like JustHate, Lu-ser, herring, flajim, froggy, you, et cetera. These turds wouldn't last 10 seconds in a real "debate," and simply aren't worth the bit of energy it takes to type here. There's no one here to debate. When I want political debate on the internet, I head to other places, where many sides are represented, and where the brain dead, the shouters, the screamers, and the uninformed lose their ability to log on, thanks to moderators who don't allow the forums to turn into right-wing (or left-wing) insult venues or scream-a-thons. Well, that seems to be what you do here. For someone who would deem his time better spent debating in a more "enlightened" forum, he's a genuine philanthropist when it comes to his contribution to this group. -- Posted via NewsDemon.com - Premium Uncensored Newsgroup Service -------http://www.NewsDemon.com------ Unlimited Access, Anonymous Accounts, Uncensored Broadband Access |
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On Aug 26, 4:00*pm, "Calif Bill" wrote:
"wf3h" wrote in message ... On Aug 26, 9:33 am, Jeem wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 26, 8:46 am, Jeem wrote: wf3h wrote: you guys have NO sense of history at all, even if the history is less than 10 months old... How could my boy trash anything without the help of congress? oh. you didn't know that the GOP controlled congress for 6 of the last 8 years. no wonder you want to blame the democrats. you don't have a clue in hell who's running the country. Focus on now and the future. ah!! so THAT'S the secret! forget the past! forget the CAUSE!! just blame it on the democrats. kind of like saying that if you smoked for 40 years and get lung cancer, just forget WHY you have lung cancer. Learn from history. Don't make the same mistakes over and over. history. that means looking at the CAUSE of the situation we're in. you seem to think history started 8 months ago. Look forward to the day Americans say enough of this bull**** from Congress and the Administration and demand responsible and responsive government.- then stop blaming obama and focus on why we're where we're at. Let me sum it up for you. Obama is merely a symptom of the disease.- the GOP was its cause. Both parties are guilty. *And things are not improving. *With the current administration spending like a drunken sailor, as did the previous administration |
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In article ,
says... JustWait wrote: In article , Bush killed people in Iraq, remember? Hide you elderly, we're out to euthanise them, the lying conservatives on TV told you so! Yeah, that's right, the lying conservatives told you that, too. Why would you even bother with someone who would say "Bush Killed people in Iraq".. that is just a silly statement in too many ways. First off, I don't think Bush even carried a weapon in Iraq, second, what about all the other Senators and Congressmen that voted to go to war? This is just silly bull****, I am out... Us liberals are going to eat your babies, too. Do you think that if Bush hadn't turned his attention to Iraq and stayed in Afghanistan where the Taliban was that all of the innocent people that got killed in the last few years at the hands of American soldiers would still have happened??? Holy ****ing ****! You are now saying we should have stayed in Afghanistan to chase the Taliban. Is that your answer to "why are we there".. Cause that wasn't good enough for the dems during the Bush Admin... snerk -- Wafa free since 2009 |
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 09:15:08 -0400, JustWait wrote: In article , Bush killed people in Iraq, remember? Hide you elderly, we're out to euthanise them, the lying conservatives on TV told you so! Yeah, that's right, the lying conservatives told you that, too. Why would you even bother with someone who would say "Bush Killed people in Iraq".. that is just a silly statement in too many ways. First off, I don't think Bush even carried a weapon in Iraq, second, what about all the other Senators and Congressmen that voted to go to war? This is just silly bull****, I am out... Ditto. wf3h, loogy, the plumguy, and Harry are all sounding alike. -- John H John, that's bull**** and you know it. You know damned well that unlike you, I don't sit on one side of the fence and sling **** at the other. |
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On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 15:21:31 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "JLH" wrote in message ... On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 12:56:07 -0700, "Calif Bill" wrote: "H the K" wrote in message m... wf3h wrote: On Aug 26, 7:01 am, thunder wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 09:21:09 -0700, Frogwatch wrote: Here is more about the lefts attempts to actively destroy the economic engine so as to force us into socialism: while socialism is a failure, those who extoll the virtues of the 'free market' haven't been paying attention to the news for the last year. What works is a hybrid system. Here's an example. Switzerland is probably the most capitalistic country on the planet. Yet it has a national health care program with several rungs on that ladder for coverage, and a plethora of private supplemental programs you can buy if you wish. No one calls Switzerland a "socialistic" country. Sadly, in this country, we are plagued with tens of millions of virtually illiterate simpletons who tend to believe the sort of nonsense righties are dumping on them in order to try to defeat significant health care reform. They're tools, pawns, if you will, in the game to maintain the status quo for the very wealthy. We have a handful of those pawns in this very newsgroup. Switzerland, even though it uses 3 different languages is a very homogenous country, high literacy and little immigration of unskilled masses. Also a very rich country. As despots have always needed a place to store their money. Secrecy in banking and pay little or no interest. Unless you just don't like your money, don't ever order 'Swiss Fondue' in a Swiss restaurant. We made that mistake once. It's a beautiful country to ride through, but northern Italy has the Dolomites which are just as beautiful. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous Actually there is reasonable fondue. Just have to know some locals to steer you. Raclatte is never cheap. But lots of labor with that dinner. Being I was on expense account and still did not think the fondue was that bad. Other meals were. The other side of the Pyrenees in France is also beautiful. Around Po and Lourdes is fantastic scenery. Actually all the mountains on the Northern Italian border are great. My wife's Great Grandmother was from Ticino provence of Switzerland. Which is about 20 miles from Lake Como. Steep canyon with large clear river running through it. The Moto Guzzi factory is in Mandello del Lario, which is on Lake Como. Perhaps you're familiar with Splugen Pass. My wife became semi-famous for being a female who rode her motorcycle over the pass. It looked like a good shortcut. It scared me ****less. Some great pictures of the road. http://tinyurl.com/mcpzq4 -- John H Damn, it's pretty though! |
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says... U-joint Buster wrote: On Wed, 26 Aug 2009 09:15:08 -0400, JustWait wrote: In article , Bush killed people in Iraq, remember? Hide you elderly, we're out to euthanise them, the lying conservatives on TV told you so! Yeah, that's right, the lying conservatives told you that, too. Why would you even bother with someone who would say "Bush Killed people in Iraq".. that is just a silly statement in too many ways. First off, I don't think Bush even carried a weapon in Iraq, second, what about all the other Senators and Congressmen that voted to go to war? This is just silly bull****, I am out... Ditto. wf3h, loogy, the plumguy, and Harry are all sounding alike. -- John H John, that's bull**** and you know it. You know damned well that unlike you, I don't sit on one side of the fence and sling **** at the other. Yet you accuse us of doing that even when we are sitting on the fence slinging it both ways.... -- Wafa free since 2009 |
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"wf3h" wrote in message ... On Aug 26, 4:00 pm, "Calif Bill" wrote: "wf3h" wrote in message ... On Aug 26, 9:33 am, Jeem wrote: wf3h wrote: On Aug 26, 8:46 am, Jeem wrote: wf3h wrote: you guys have NO sense of history at all, even if the history is less than 10 months old... How could my boy trash anything without the help of congress? oh. you didn't know that the GOP controlled congress for 6 of the last 8 years. no wonder you want to blame the democrats. you don't have a clue in hell who's running the country. Focus on now and the future. ah!! so THAT'S the secret! forget the past! forget the CAUSE!! just blame it on the democrats. kind of like saying that if you smoked for 40 years and get lung cancer, just forget WHY you have lung cancer. Learn from history. Don't make the same mistakes over and over. history. that means looking at the CAUSE of the situation we're in. you seem to think history started 8 months ago. Look forward to the day Americans say enough of this bull**** from Congress and the Administration and demand responsible and responsive government.- then stop blaming obama and focus on why we're where we're at. Let me sum it up for you. Obama is merely a symptom of the disease.- the GOP was its cause. Both parties are guilty. And things are not improving. With the current administration spending like a drunken sailor, as did the previous administration Reply: So it is OK to over spend now? |
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