As a kid, I read everything Jules Verne ever wrote and initially,
Capt. Nemo was my hero but then I read Mysterious Island where the
engineer is dropped onto a deserted island with nothing at all and
essentially manages to recreate all the comforts of civilization
making everything from nitroglycerin to firearms from scratch.
Unrealistic, but an interesting goal to be like him. After reading
all that and similar stuff (H.G. Wells, etc.) I was a fan of the
Steampunk genre long before it had a name and have longed to build
something useful that was Steampunk. I do know somebody who built a
steam launch here and named it "Wakulla Queen" and it loos so cool.
So, if I ever got the time. I'd steampunk my Tolman Skiff. Can you
imagine the look of massive rivets and the Nautilus looking curved ram
with metal teeth. A smokestack (a disguised VHF antenna) and all the
instruments with bronze covers. What I have not decided is how to
steampunk the Yamaha 90.
of course, I'll never have time to do this but it is fun to think
about, it would be soooooo cool.

Frogwatch wrote:
As a kid, I read everything Jules Verne ever wrote and initially,
Capt. Nemo was my hero but then I read Mysterious Island where the
engineer is dropped onto a deserted island with nothing at all and
essentially manages to recreate all the comforts of civilization
making everything from nitroglycerin to firearms from scratch.
Unrealistic, but an interesting goal to be like him. After reading
all that and similar stuff (H.G. Wells, etc.) I was a fan of the
Steampunk genre long before it had a name and have longed to build
something useful that was Steampunk. I do know somebody who built a
steam launch here and named it "Wakulla Queen" and it loos so cool.
So, if I ever got the time. I'd steampunk my Tolman Skiff. Can you
imagine the look of massive rivets and the Nautilus looking curved ram
with metal teeth. A smokestack (a disguised VHF antenna) and all the
instruments with bronze covers. What I have not decided is how to
steampunk the Yamaha 90.
of course, I'll never have time to do this but it is fun to think
about, it would be soooooo cool.


A common fantasy of the residents of the Northeast Florida State Hospital...

On Aug 21, 12:28*pm, Gene Kearns
wrote:
On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:04:14 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch penned the
following well considered thoughts to the readers of rec.boats:

|As a kid, I read everything Jules Verne ever wrote and initially,
|Capt. Nemo was my hero but then I read Mysterious Island where the
|engineer is dropped onto a deserted island with nothing at all and
|essentially manages to recreate all the comforts of civilization
|making everything from nitroglycerin to firearms from scratch.
|Unrealistic, but an interesting goal to be like him. *After reading
|all that and similar stuff (H.G. Wells, etc.) I was a fan of the
|Steampunk genre long before it had a name and have longed to build
|something useful that was Steampunk. *I do know somebody who built a
|steam launch here and named it "Wakulla Queen" and it loos so cool.
|So, if I ever got the time. I'd steampunk my Tolman Skiff. *Can you
|imagine the look of massive rivets and the Nautilus looking curved ram
|with metal teeth. *A smokestack (a disguised VHF antenna) and all the
|instruments with bronze covers. *What I have not decided is how to
|steampunk the Yamaha 90.
|of course, I'll never have time to do this but it is fun to think
|about, it would be soooooo cool.

If you have SyFy, you might get some ideas from Warehouse 13.

http://www.syfy.com/warehouse13/

--
Agent 5.00 Build 1171

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepagehttp://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

I get my inspiration from MacGyver.

i mean, anybody that can make good quality welds from a generator,
jumper cables and a couple of quarters has my vote.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UILxQY9TQ5w

On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 21:18:03 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

i mean, anybody that can make good quality welds from a generator,
jumper cables and a couple of quarters has my vote.

I took a welding class at the area college. Anyone who can weld even
with proper gear has my vote. Lets just say I can solder and let it go
at that.

Casady

"NotNow" wrote in message
...
Gene wrote:
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 10:48:28 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Richard Casady wrote:
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 21:18:03 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

i mean, anybody that can make good quality welds from a generator,
jumper cables and a couple of quarters has my vote.
I took a welding class at the area college. Anyone who can weld even
with proper gear has my vote. Lets just say I can solder and let it go
at that.

Casady
You'd think that welding would be welding. But, I grew up welding with a
Lincoln AC welder. Did it for years on anything that would break on the
farm. A friend's dad had a DC welder. It took me a whole day to get to
lay a decent bead with that thing! Whole different animal! Of course now
days, wire feed welding in different gas atmospheres, welding about any
kind of metal, etc. Totally different animal.

Except for arc blow, it shouldn't be. Probably wrong polarity or wrong
rods....

I find it quite a bit different in feel.

Something not set up correct. DC stick welding is a lot easier than AC to
get the beautiful bead. But may have been the machine. I can TIG weld
aluminum somewhat with a Miller Syncrowave 350. Most other TIG machines I
can't.

Calif Bill wrote:
"NotNow" wrote in message
...
Gene wrote:
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 10:48:28 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Richard Casady wrote:
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 21:18:03 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

i mean, anybody that can make good quality welds from a generator,
jumper cables and a couple of quarters has my vote.
I took a welding class at the area college. Anyone who can weld even
with proper gear has my vote. Lets just say I can solder and let it go
at that.

Casady
You'd think that welding would be welding. But, I grew up welding with a
Lincoln AC welder. Did it for years on anything that would break on the
farm. A friend's dad had a DC welder. It took me a whole day to get to
lay a decent bead with that thing! Whole different animal! Of course now
days, wire feed welding in different gas atmospheres, welding about any
kind of metal, etc. Totally different animal.
Except for arc blow, it shouldn't be. Probably wrong polarity or wrong
rods....
I find it quite a bit different in feel.

Something not set up correct. DC stick welding is a lot easier than AC to
get the beautiful bead. But may have been the machine. I can TIG weld
aluminum somewhat with a Miller Syncrowave 350. Most other TIG machines I
can't.


Not for me! I've learned, but I grew up AC welding, so that's what I was
used to. I'm going to take a class at the community college for TIG and MIG.

"Gene" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 10:37:57 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"NotNow" wrote in message
...
Gene wrote:
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 10:48:28 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Richard Casady wrote:
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 21:18:03 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

i mean, anybody that can make good quality welds from a generator,
jumper cables and a couple of quarters has my vote.
I took a welding class at the area college. Anyone who can weld even
with proper gear has my vote. Lets just say I can solder and let it
go
at that.

Casady
You'd think that welding would be welding. But, I grew up welding with
a
Lincoln AC welder. Did it for years on anything that would break on
the
farm. A friend's dad had a DC welder. It took me a whole day to get to
lay a decent bead with that thing! Whole different animal! Of course
now
days, wire feed welding in different gas atmospheres, welding about
any
kind of metal, etc. Totally different animal.

Except for arc blow, it shouldn't be. Probably wrong polarity or wrong
rods....

I find it quite a bit different in feel.

Something not set up correct. DC stick welding is a lot easier than AC to
get the beautiful bead. But may have been the machine. I can TIG weld
aluminum somewhat with a Miller Syncrowave 350. Most other TIG machines I
can't.


That gets a little more complicated. Gas has to be right, Hi Freq has
to be right, and the tip has to be pointed correctly..... along with
all of the other stuff you have to be concerned with in other electric
welding.

I got a chance to go here for welding (already did their basic and
advanced metal shaping classes) last year.....
http://www.metalcrafttools.com/metalshaping.html

If you are close enough it is a good show....
--

Forté Agent 5.00 Build 1171

"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by
the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do.
So, throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor.
Catch the trade winds in your sails.
Explore. Dream. Discover." - Unknown

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net...at/my_boat.htm



I take some classes at the local JC. They have one of the top welding
courses in the country. They are sponsored by some of the refineries as
they are short certified welders for maintenance and upgrades.
http://www.thecrucible.org/ is a private, non-profit in Oakland where you
can also take classes. Check out their fire show on the website. I have
welded since I was a little kid. Dad owned one of the SF Bay areas major
machine shops. So I had a lot of very good welders to teach me stick. Most
came out of the Richmond shipyards. I can TIG steel and stainless with most
machines, but my aluminum TIG sucks. The Syncrowave 350 seems to be
something I can handle. Most of my aluminum welding is with my Lincoln 180c
and a spool gun. Problem is the power limits some of the welding thickness
I can handle. To weld on the bottom of my boat 3/16" 50xx aluminum, I would
have to preheat with a torch. And for the $7k for a Syncrowave 350 I can
hire a welder to repair the bottom if big areas need welding. Lifting
strakes mostly.

On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 10:04:14 -0700 (PDT), Frogwatch
wrote:

As a kid, I read everything Jules Verne ever wrote and initially,
Capt. Nemo was my hero but then I read Mysterious Island where the
engineer is dropped onto a deserted island with nothing at all and
essentially manages to recreate all the comforts of civilization
making everything from nitroglycerin to firearms from scratch.
Unrealistic, but an interesting goal to be like him. After reading
all that and similar stuff (H.G. Wells, etc.) I was a fan of the
Steampunk genre long before it had a name and have longed to build
something useful that was Steampunk. I do know somebody who built a
steam launch here and named it "Wakulla Queen" and it loos so cool.
So, if I ever got the time. I'd steampunk my Tolman Skiff. Can you
imagine the look of massive rivets and the Nautilus looking curved ram
with metal teeth. A smokestack (a disguised VHF antenna) and all the
instruments with bronze covers. What I have not decided is how to
steampunk the Yamaha 90.
of course, I'll never have time to do this but it is fun to think
about, it would be soooooo cool.

I wonder how many people here actually know what Steam Punk is? :)

Funny you should mention that - when we remodeled the Master Bath, I
convinced Mrs. Wave to go steam punk with the fixtures and some other
stuff.

Came out really cool - a bit odd, but really cool.

Be a cool deal though - fun project.

Calif Bill wrote:
"Gene" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 10:37:57 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

"NotNow" wrote in message
...
Gene wrote:
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 10:48:28 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Richard Casady wrote:
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 21:18:03 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

i mean, anybody that can make good quality welds from a generator,
jumper cables and a couple of quarters has my vote.
I took a welding class at the area college. Anyone who can weld even
with proper gear has my vote. Lets just say I can solder and let it
go
at that.

Casady
You'd think that welding would be welding. But, I grew up welding with
a
Lincoln AC welder. Did it for years on anything that would break on
the
farm. A friend's dad had a DC welder. It took me a whole day to get to
lay a decent bead with that thing! Whole different animal! Of course
now
days, wire feed welding in different gas atmospheres, welding about
any
kind of metal, etc. Totally different animal.
Except for arc blow, it shouldn't be. Probably wrong polarity or wrong
rods....
I find it quite a bit different in feel.
Something not set up correct. DC stick welding is a lot easier than AC to
get the beautiful bead. But may have been the machine. I can TIG weld
aluminum somewhat with a Miller Syncrowave 350. Most other TIG machines I
can't.

That gets a little more complicated. Gas has to be right, Hi Freq has
to be right, and the tip has to be pointed correctly..... along with
all of the other stuff you have to be concerned with in other electric
welding.

I got a chance to go here for welding (already did their basic and
advanced metal shaping classes) last year.....
http://www.metalcrafttools.com/metalshaping.html

If you are close enough it is a good show....
--

Forté Agent 5.00 Build 1171

"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by
the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do.
So, throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor.
Catch the trade winds in your sails.
Explore. Dream. Discover." - Unknown

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net...at/my_boat.htm



I take some classes at the local JC. They have one of the top welding
courses in the country. They are sponsored by some of the refineries as
they are short certified welders for maintenance and upgrades.
http://www.thecrucible.org/ is a private, non-profit in Oakland where you
can also take classes. Check out their fire show on the website. I have
welded since I was a little kid. Dad owned one of the SF Bay areas major
machine shops. So I had a lot of very good welders to teach me stick. Most
came out of the Richmond shipyards. I can TIG steel and stainless with most
machines, but my aluminum TIG sucks. The Syncrowave 350 seems to be
something I can handle. Most of my aluminum welding is with my Lincoln 180c
and a spool gun. Problem is the power limits some of the welding thickness
I can handle. To weld on the bottom of my boat 3/16" 50xx aluminum, I would
have to preheat with a torch. And for the $7k for a Syncrowave 350 I can
hire a welder to repair the bottom if big areas need welding. Lifting
strakes mostly.



Preheating is a pain in the arse if you are using electric. My uncle
acetylene welded, learning that as an aviation machinist in the navy.
Beautiful welds!

"NotNow" wrote in message
...
Calif Bill wrote:
"Gene" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 10:37:57 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote:

"NotNow" wrote in message
...
Gene wrote:
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009 10:48:28 -0400, NotNow wrote:

Richard Casady wrote:
On Sat, 22 Aug 2009 21:18:03 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

i mean, anybody that can make good quality welds from a generator,
jumper cables and a couple of quarters has my vote.
I took a welding class at the area college. Anyone who can weld
even
with proper gear has my vote. Lets just say I can solder and let it
go
at that.

Casady
You'd think that welding would be welding. But, I grew up welding
with a
Lincoln AC welder. Did it for years on anything that would break on
the
farm. A friend's dad had a DC welder. It took me a whole day to get
to
lay a decent bead with that thing! Whole different animal! Of course
now
days, wire feed welding in different gas atmospheres, welding about
any
kind of metal, etc. Totally different animal.
Except for arc blow, it shouldn't be. Probably wrong polarity or
wrong
rods....
I find it quite a bit different in feel.
Something not set up correct. DC stick welding is a lot easier than AC
to
get the beautiful bead. But may have been the machine. I can TIG weld
aluminum somewhat with a Miller Syncrowave 350. Most other TIG
machines I
can't.

That gets a little more complicated. Gas has to be right, Hi Freq has
to be right, and the tip has to be pointed correctly..... along with
all of the other stuff you have to be concerned with in other electric
welding.

I got a chance to go here for welding (already did their basic and
advanced metal shaping classes) last year.....
http://www.metalcrafttools.com/metalshaping.html

If you are close enough it is a good show....
--

Forté Agent 5.00 Build 1171

"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by
the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do.
So, throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor.
Catch the trade winds in your sails.
Explore. Dream. Discover." - Unknown

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepage
http://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net...at/my_boat.htm



I take some classes at the local JC. They have one of the top welding
courses in the country. They are sponsored by some of the refineries as
they are short certified welders for maintenance and upgrades.
http://www.thecrucible.org/ is a private, non-profit in Oakland where you
can also take classes. Check out their fire show on the website. I have
welded since I was a little kid. Dad owned one of the SF Bay areas major
machine shops. So I had a lot of very good welders to teach me stick.
Most came out of the Richmond shipyards. I can TIG steel and stainless
with most machines, but my aluminum TIG sucks. The Syncrowave 350 seems
to be something I can handle. Most of my aluminum welding is with my
Lincoln 180c and a spool gun. Problem is the power limits some of the
welding thickness I can handle. To weld on the bottom of my boat 3/16"
50xx aluminum, I would have to preheat with a torch. And for the $7k for
a Syncrowave 350 I can hire a welder to repair the bottom if big areas
need welding. Lifting strakes mostly.

Preheating is a pain in the arse if you are using electric. My uncle
acetylene welded, learning that as an aviation machinist in the navy.
Beautiful welds!

Oxy/act will not weld aluminum. But you have to have enough power to weld,
and aluminum transfers lots of heat on large thick sections. Preheat is
necessary with a lower power welder, but there are other problems with lots
of the alloys of aluminum with preheating large areas.