wf3h wrote:
On Aug 19, 10:35 am, H the K wrote:
BAR wrote:
H the K wrote:
BAR wrote:
H the K wrote:
BAR wrote:
NotNow wrote:
BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 9:22 pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 6:08 pm, J i m wrote:
wf3h wrote:
go back to your fertilzer/fuel oil bombs.
How's the one's war in Afganistain going?
he's making progress in cleaning up bush's **** up
I thought that Afghanistan was the good war and Iraq was the
bad war.
right. but bush was on the point of losing afghanistan because
he's an
idiot
What is our goal in Afghanistan? What do we think we are going to
accomplish that no one else in recorded history has accomplished?
To clean up after Bush.
Clean up what?
Hehehe. Moron.
If you have an answer then spit it out. But, we know you are afraid
to put forth an answer, if you do it can be thrown in your face when
it is proved wrong. This is why you do cut-n-paste rather than put
forth your own thoughts, ideas and opinions.
Otherwise you make yourself look stupid.
Already told you many times: I don't take right-wingers like you
seriously. You're not worth any effort. Just reading some of your
posts wastes enough of my time. Why you waste your limited brain power
trying to second-guess my reasons for not taking you seriously is
beyond me: the answer is exactly as I have stated.
Harry, there are many of us on the left, center and right who have you
pegged.
Yawn. I read your posts for their unintentional humor and sometimes I
respond. To make more of it than that is to show yourself to be a bigger
fool than even think you are.

I do engage in political debates with those on the other side, but in
serious forums where droolers and bottom feeders are kicked. There's no
compelling reason to "debate" here.-

i read his stuff for its 'amazement' value. everytime i think i can't
meet someone dumber than i have, a guy like 'bar' comes along and
restores my faith in stupidity as an enduring human value.



Yeah...that's why I read The Freaky JustWait's posts...it's reassuring
to know that after all these thousands of years of evolution, it hasn't
touched every genetic line.

"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Aug 19, 7:58 am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 9:22 pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 6:08 pm, J i m wrote:
wf3h wrote:
go back to your fertilzer/fuel oil bombs.
How's the one's war in Afganistain going?
he's making progress in cleaning up bush's **** up
I thought that Afghanistan was the good war and Iraq was the bad war.

right. but bush was on the point of losing afghanistan because he's an
idiot

What is our goal in Afghanistan? What do we think we are going to
accomplish that no one else in recorded history has accomplished?

i'm guessing you think afghanistan has never been conquered.

and that is wrong.


The first question is certainly valid. The current administration has
answered this several times. The problem was lack of responsbility of
ownership of the original invasion. The previous administration didn't get
it right, because they didn't follow the well-established Powell doctrine,
not in Afganistan nor in Iraq, the latter being a war of choice vs. one of
necessity. We're paying the price for the neglect right now in both
places... the former for not really making the commitment (and a war for
which we had a lot of support and justification), the second for going there
in the first place (where we had practically no support and certainly no
justification).

--
Nom=de=Plume

In article , says...

"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Aug 19, 7:58 am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 9:22 pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 6:08 pm, J i m wrote:
wf3h wrote:
go back to your fertilzer/fuel oil bombs.
How's the one's war in Afganistain going?
he's making progress in cleaning up bush's **** up
I thought that Afghanistan was the good war and Iraq was the bad war.

right. but bush was on the point of losing afghanistan because he's an
idiot

What is our goal in Afghanistan? What do we think we are going to
accomplish that no one else in recorded history has accomplished?

i'm guessing you think afghanistan has never been conquered.

and that is wrong.


The first question is certainly valid. The current administration has
answered this several times. The problem was lack of responsbility of
ownership of the original invasion. The previous administration didn't get
it right, because they didn't follow the well-established Powell doctrine,
not in Afganistan nor in Iraq, the latter being a war of choice vs. one of
necessity. We're paying the price for the neglect right now in both
places... the former for not really making the commitment (and a war for
which we had a lot of support and justification), the second for going there
in the first place (where we had practically no support and certainly no
justification).

.... and he declared. "No sentence shall be written without a bumper
sticker phrase included.. And thus, it was so, and responsible debate
was summarily dismissed.....

--
Wafa free since 2009

JustWait wrote:
In article , says...
"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Aug 19, 7:58 am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 9:22 pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 6:08 pm, J i m wrote:
wf3h wrote:
go back to your fertilzer/fuel oil bombs.
How's the one's war in Afganistain going?
he's making progress in cleaning up bush's **** up
I thought that Afghanistan was the good war and Iraq was the bad war.
right. but bush was on the point of losing afghanistan because he's an
idiot
What is our goal in Afghanistan? What do we think we are going to
accomplish that no one else in recorded history has accomplished?
i'm guessing you think afghanistan has never been conquered.

and that is wrong.

The first question is certainly valid. The current administration has
answered this several times. The problem was lack of responsbility of
ownership of the original invasion. The previous administration didn't get
it right, because they didn't follow the well-established Powell doctrine,
not in Afganistan nor in Iraq, the latter being a war of choice vs. one of
necessity. We're paying the price for the neglect right now in both
places... the former for not really making the commitment (and a war for
which we had a lot of support and justification), the second for going there
in the first place (where we had practically no support and certainly no
justification).

... and he declared. "No sentence shall be written without a bumper
sticker phrase included.. And thus, it was so, and responsible debate
was summarily dismissed.....

Responsible debate? Do you mean like going to town hall meetings with AK's?
Or do you mean responsible debate like conservatives never, ever do
anything wrong, and everything and anything liberals do IS wrong?

"JustWait" wrote in message
...
In article , says...

"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Aug 19, 7:58 am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 9:22 pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 6:08 pm, J i m wrote:
wf3h wrote:
go back to your fertilzer/fuel oil bombs.
How's the one's war in Afganistain going?
he's making progress in cleaning up bush's **** up
I thought that Afghanistan was the good war and Iraq was the bad
war.

right. but bush was on the point of losing afghanistan because he's
an
idiot

What is our goal in Afghanistan? What do we think we are going to
accomplish that no one else in recorded history has accomplished?

i'm guessing you think afghanistan has never been conquered.

and that is wrong.


The first question is certainly valid. The current administration has
answered this several times. The problem was lack of responsbility of
ownership of the original invasion. The previous administration didn't
get
it right, because they didn't follow the well-established Powell
doctrine,
not in Afganistan nor in Iraq, the latter being a war of choice vs. one
of
necessity. We're paying the price for the neglect right now in both
places... the former for not really making the commitment (and a war for
which we had a lot of support and justification), the second for going
there
in the first place (where we had practically no support and certainly no
justification).

... and he declared. "No sentence shall be written without a bumper
sticker phrase included.. And thus, it was so, and responsible debate
was summarily dismissed.....

--
Wafa free since 2009


Sounds like right-wing wishful thinking on your part. Your response has no
basis in logic or continuity of the discussion, which makes logical sense if
you all you have is fear-based jingoism as your last best hope for the
future.

--
Nom=de=Plume

On Aug 19, 1:04*pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:


The first question is certainly valid. The current administration has
answered this several times. The problem was lack of responsbility of
ownership of the original invasion. The previous administration didn't get
it right, because they didn't follow the well-established Powell doctrine,
not in Afganistan nor in Iraq, the latter being a war of choice vs. one of
necessity. We're paying the price for the neglect right now in both
places... the former for not really making the commitment (and a war for
which we had a lot of support and justification), the second for going there
in the first place (where we had practically no support and certainly no
justification).

correct on all counts. now we just have to convince the idiots of the
truth

"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Aug 19, 1:04 pm, "nom=de=plume" wrote:


The first question is certainly valid. The current administration has
answered this several times. The problem was lack of responsbility of
ownership of the original invasion. The previous administration didn't get
it right, because they didn't follow the well-established Powell doctrine,
not in Afganistan nor in Iraq, the latter being a war of choice vs. one of
necessity. We're paying the price for the neglect right now in both
places... the former for not really making the commitment (and a war for
which we had a lot of support and justification), the second for going
there
in the first place (where we had practically no support and certainly no
justification).

correct on all counts. now we just have to convince the idiots of the
truth


Actually, we don't. The majority of Americans voted for change, both for
Congress and for the presidency. That change can take place without
compromising the vox populi. I don't believe that their minds can be
changed. It's interesting, actually. I vote and act against my own
self-interest all the time. The same goes for those opposed to true reform.
The difference is that I know I'm doing that. The latter is what fear-based
rhetoric gets done.

--
Nom=de=Plume

On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 12:38:31 -0700, "nom=de=plume"
wrote:

"JustWait" wrote in message
...
In article , says...

"wf3h" wrote in message
...
On Aug 19, 7:58 am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 9:22 pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 6:08 pm, J i m wrote:
wf3h wrote:
go back to your fertilzer/fuel oil bombs.
How's the one's war in Afganistain going?
he's making progress in cleaning up bush's **** up
I thought that Afghanistan was the good war and Iraq was the bad
war.

right. but bush was on the point of losing afghanistan because he's
an
idiot

What is our goal in Afghanistan? What do we think we are going to
accomplish that no one else in recorded history has accomplished?

i'm guessing you think afghanistan has never been conquered.

and that is wrong.


The first question is certainly valid. The current administration has
answered this several times. The problem was lack of responsbility of
ownership of the original invasion. The previous administration didn't
get
it right, because they didn't follow the well-established Powell
doctrine,
not in Afganistan nor in Iraq, the latter being a war of choice vs. one
of
necessity. We're paying the price for the neglect right now in both
places... the former for not really making the commitment (and a war for
which we had a lot of support and justification), the second for going
there
in the first place (where we had practically no support and certainly no
justification).

... and he declared. "No sentence shall be written without a bumper
sticker phrase included.. And thus, it was so, and responsible debate
was summarily dismissed.....

--
Wafa free since 2009


Sounds like right-wing wishful thinking on your part. Your response has no
basis in logic or continuity of the discussion, which makes logical sense if
you all you have is fear-based jingoism as your last best hope for the
future.

You've run smack into the bumper sticker queen of rec.boats. The
Freak spits 'em out like a kid pumps water from a squirt gun.

Ask him about Pelosi and get ready for an adventure into the deep
woods of Virginia. Single note banjo music will come to mind.

wf3h wrote:
On Aug 19, 10:18 am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 19, 9:11 am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 19, 8:57 am, H K wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 19, 7:58 am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 9:22 pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 6:08 pm, J i m wrote:
wf3h wrote:
go back to your fertilzer/fuel oil bombs.
How's the one's war in Afganistain going?
he's making progress in cleaning up bush's **** up
I thought that Afghanistan was the good war and Iraq was the bad war..
right. but bush was on the point of losing afghanistan because he's an
idiot
What is our goal in Afghanistan? What do we think we are going to
accomplish that no one else in recorded history has accomplished?
i'm guessing you think afghanistan has never been conquered.
and that is wrong.
BAR joined the marines after high school, and it is unlikely the marines
taught him about Timur.-
seems the boy has missed alot in his history...
You still haven't explained why we are in Afghanistan.-
what planet you on? do they have a calendar? ever hear of 9/11?
jesus you're stupid...
What is the goal? What is the end-game? When do we leave?-


and your goal in surrendering is?


Just as I thought, you have no idea why we are in Afghanistan.

wf3h wrote:
On Aug 19, 10:20 am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 19, 9:09 am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 19, 7:58 am, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 9:22 pm, BAR wrote:
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 18, 6:08 pm, J i m wrote:
wf3h wrote:
go back to your fertilzer/fuel oil bombs.
How's the one's war in Afganistain going?
he's making progress in cleaning up bush's **** up
I thought that Afghanistan was the good war and Iraq was the bad war..
right. but bush was on the point of losing afghanistan because he's an
idiot
What is our goal in Afghanistan? What do we think we are going to
accomplish that no one else in recorded history has accomplished?
i'm guessing you think afghanistan has never been conquered.
and that is wrong.
What value, strategic or economic, does Afghanistan present to the US of
A? Why are you willing to waste US lives conquering Afghanistan? What
are you going to do with it once you have conquered it?-
set up a government that is friendly to the US so that afghanistan
never again attacks us.
you're really, REALLY ****ing stupid.
Afghanistan did not attack us.

sure did. the attack was launched from afghanistan. i'm not sure what
planet you're on, but it needs a better earth news service

I must have missed the Afghan army uniforms that the 19 hijackers were
wearing.

Bin Laden used Afghanistan as a base from
which to run his organization. Bin Laden was extremely smart in picking
Afghanistan due to the fact that it is land-locked and surrounded by
countries that are not exactly best friends of the US of A.

ah. so he 'used it as a base'. what did he do? go to avis rent-a-
country?

Yes, he did go to rent-a-country.

christ you're dumber than i thought possible. and i really thought you
were stupid.

You still haven't said what our goal in Afghanistan is and why we are
there.