South Dakota

It's late fall and the Indians on a remote reservation in South Dakota asked
their new chief if the coming winter was going to be cold or mild.

Since he was a chief in a modern society, he had never been taught the old
secrets. When he looked at the sky, he couldn't tell what the winter was
going to be like.

Nevertheless, to be on the safe side, he told his tribe that the winter was
indeed going to be cold and that the members of the village should collect
firewood to be prepared.

But, being a practical leader, after several days, he got an idea. He went
to the phone booth, called the National Weather Service and asked, 'Is the
coming winter going to be cold?'

'It looks like this winter is going to be quite cold,' the meteorologist at
the weather service responded.

So the chief went back to his people and told them to collect even more
firewood in order to be prepared.

A week later, he called the National Weather Service again. 'Does it still
look like it is going to be a very cold winter?'

'Yes,' the man at National Weather Service again replied, 'it's going to be
a very cold winter.'

The chief again went back to his people and ordered them to collect every
scrap of firewood they could find.

Two weeks later, the chief called the National Weather Service again. 'Are
you absolutely sure that the winter is going to be very cold?'

'Absolutely,' the man replied. 'It's looking more and more like it is going
to be one of the coldest winters we've ever seen.'

'How can you be so sure?' the chief asked. The weatherman replied, 'The
Indians are collecting firewood like crazy.'

Remember this whenever you get advice from a government official!

Lu Powell wrote:
South Dakota

It's late fall and the Indians on a remote reservation in South Dakota
asked their new chief if the coming winter was going to be cold or mild.

Since he was a chief in a modern society, he had never been taught the
old secrets. When he looked at the sky, he couldn't tell what the winter
was going to be like.

Nevertheless, to be on the safe side, he told his tribe that the winter
was indeed going to be cold and that the members of the village should
collect firewood to be prepared.

But, being a practical leader, after several days, he got an idea. He
went to the phone booth, called the National Weather Service and asked,
'Is the coming winter going to be cold?'

'It looks like this winter is going to be quite cold,' the meteorologist
at the weather service responded.

So the chief went back to his people and told them to collect even more
firewood in order to be prepared.

A week later, he called the National Weather Service again. 'Does it
still look like it is going to be a very cold winter?'

'Yes,' the man at National Weather Service again replied, 'it's going to
be a very cold winter.'

The chief again went back to his people and ordered them to collect
every scrap of firewood they could find.

Two weeks later, the chief called the National Weather Service again.
'Are you absolutely sure that the winter is going to be very cold?'

'Absolutely,' the man replied. 'It's looking more and more like it is
going to be one of the coldest winters we've ever seen.'

'How can you be so sure?' the chief asked. The weatherman replied, 'The
Indians are collecting firewood like crazy.'

Remember this whenever you get advice from a government official!

Playing reverse Harry again?

"NotNow" wrote in message
...
Lu Powell wrote:
South Dakota

It's late fall and the Indians on a remote reservation in South Dakota
asked their new chief if the coming winter was going to be cold or mild.

Since he was a chief in a modern society, he had never been taught the
old secrets. When he looked at the sky, he couldn't tell what the winter
was going to be like.

Nevertheless, to be on the safe side, he told his tribe that the winter
was indeed going to be cold and that the members of the village should
collect firewood to be prepared.

But, being a practical leader, after several days, he got an idea. He
went to the phone booth, called the National Weather Service and asked,
'Is the coming winter going to be cold?'

'It looks like this winter is going to be quite cold,' the meteorologist
at the weather service responded.

So the chief went back to his people and told them to collect even more
firewood in order to be prepared.

A week later, he called the National Weather Service again. 'Does it
still look like it is going to be a very cold winter?'

'Yes,' the man at National Weather Service again replied, 'it's going to
be a very cold winter.'

The chief again went back to his people and ordered them to collect every
scrap of firewood they could find.

Two weeks later, the chief called the National Weather Service again.
'Are you absolutely sure that the winter is going to be very cold?'

'Absolutely,' the man replied. 'It's looking more and more like it is
going to be one of the coldest winters we've ever seen.'

'How can you be so sure?' the chief asked. The weatherman replied, 'The
Indians are collecting firewood like crazy.'

Remember this whenever you get advice from a government official!

Playing reverse Harry again?

Nope. Trying to get some tightasses to laugh a little.

On Aug 15, 12:18*pm, "Lu Powell" wrote:
"NotNow" wrote in message

...



Lu Powell wrote:
South Dakota

It's late fall and the Indians on a remote reservation in South Dakota
asked their new chief if the coming winter was going to be cold or mild.

Since he was a chief in a modern society, he had never been taught the
old secrets. When he looked at the sky, he couldn't tell what the winter
was going to be like.

Nevertheless, to be on the safe side, he told his tribe that the winter
was indeed going to be cold and that the members of the village should
collect firewood to be prepared.

But, being a practical leader, after several days, he got an idea. He
went to the phone booth, called the National Weather Service and asked,
'Is the coming winter going to be cold?'

'It looks like this winter is going to be quite cold,' the meteorologist
at the weather service responded.

So the chief went back to his people and told them to collect even more
firewood in order to be prepared.

A week later, he called the National Weather Service again. 'Does it
still look like it is going to be a very cold winter?'

'Yes,' the man at National Weather Service again replied, 'it's going to
be a very cold winter.'

The chief again went back to his people and ordered them to collect every
scrap of firewood they could find.

Two weeks later, the chief called the National Weather Service again.
'Are you absolutely sure that the winter is going to be very cold?'

'Absolutely,' the man replied. *'It's looking more and more like it is
going to be one of the coldest winters we've ever seen.'

'How can you be so sure?' the chief asked. The weatherman replied, 'The
Indians are collecting firewood like crazy.'

Remember this whenever you get advice from a government official!

Playing reverse Harry again?

Nope. Trying to get some tightasses to laugh a little.

I thought it was funny.

?;^ )


It happens in the private sector too. I buy a lot of a certain
alternator from one specific warehouse that is until this year. I'm
not dissatisfied with their quality or pricing, quite the contrary.
But they always seem to be back ordered because some bean counter told
them they were stocking too much inventory. So just about every time
I'd place an order the parts or units weren't on the shelf. So....

I started buying from someone else.

Now these folks cant understand hat if they had the product available
to me, they'd be moving them because I'd be ordering them. So.....

Now I get a calls from the warehouse rep. because he is concerned and
can't figure out that my purchases are down....


hmmmm, I wonder why?

Gene wrote:
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:07:14 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

But they always seem to be back ordered because some bean counter told
them they were stocking too much inventory. So just about every time
I'd place an order the parts or units weren't on the shelf.

Sounds like West Marine.

"Sales associate", beaming.... "Sir, we don't have any in stock, but
you can order that online!"

Me, scowling.... "Why the hell would I have driven 50 miles and be
standing here in your store, if I wanted to buy that online? You can't
sell me what you don't have."

"Sales associate", now assuming the deer-in-the-headlights stance....

I keep a Defender Catalog for punishment.....




Up here in Yankee-ville, we have telephones, so I call one of the three
local stores *first* to check inventory, and if that store doesn't have
it, the clerk on the other end can check via his computer to see if
either of the other stores do.

Of course, I don't restrict that sort of phoning ahead to boating supply
stores...

:)

Gene wrote:
On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 09:04:20 -0400, H the K
wrote:

Gene wrote:
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:07:14 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

But they always seem to be back ordered because some bean counter told
them they were stocking too much inventory. So just about every time
I'd place an order the parts or units weren't on the shelf.
Sounds like West Marine.

"Sales associate", beaming.... "Sir, we don't have any in stock, but
you can order that online!"

Me, scowling.... "Why the hell would I have driven 50 miles and be
standing here in your store, if I wanted to buy that online? You can't
sell me what you don't have."

"Sales associate", now assuming the deer-in-the-headlights stance....

I keep a Defender Catalog for punishment.....



Up here in Yankee-ville, we have telephones, so I call one of the three
local stores *first* to check inventory, and if that store doesn't have
it, the clerk on the other end can check via his computer to see if
either of the other stores do.

Of course, I don't restrict that sort of phoning ahead to boating supply
stores...

:)

You are, of course, correct. It was a lesson I learned the hard way
because at one point I drove over with the reasonable expectation that
they *did* have what I need and I was rarely disappointed.

Something changed.

Last week, I tried (via telephone) to find a hatch closer at the
Wilmington, Raleigh, and Myrtle Beach Stores. All of them wanted me to
order online and pick the item up in person at the store, so I could
save the shipping cost. I'm sure they thought getting me in the store
would convince me to buy something else. Again, I let them know that
the couldn't sell what they didn't stock and that saving $7 shipping
wouldn't justify a 100+ mile round trip. Bottom Line? I rarely shop
brick and mortar with them any more.

The loss of two major boating stores as competition hasn't helped,
either.


What you are reporting is true of many retail operations. There are a
lot of factors at play here...including the loss of our ability to
manufacture, the willingness of retailers to sell precisely the same
goods as competing retailers, the homogenization of society as a result
of national media, the herd instinct and 50 other factors.

There are very, very few retails stores I visit anymore. I like
Restoration Hardware, the Apple Computer stores, the large bookstores,
L.L. Bean, Bass Pro, the MicroCenter computer stores, a good local
boating supply store in Annapolis ( http://www.fawcettboat.com/ ), but
when I get dragged to a mall, I spend my time there walking briskly from
one end to another and back and so forth until I am "paged" on the cell
phone and told it is time to leave. :) My guess is that I do 90% of my
non-food shopping on the internet.

On Sun, 16 Aug 2009 09:27:43 -0400, Gene
wrote:

Again, I let them know that
the couldn't sell what they didn't stock and that saving $7 shipping
wouldn't justify a 100+ mile round trip. Bottom Line? I rarely shop
brick and mortar with them any more.

I'm surprised that you don't have one in your area given the number of
boaters thereabouts. We've got 3 or 4 within 10 miles here in SWFL,
too many in my opinion for the good of the company.

Gene wrote:
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:07:14 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

But they always seem to be back ordered because some bean counter told
them they were stocking too much inventory. So just about every time
I'd place an order the parts or units weren't on the shelf.

Sounds like West Marine.

"Sales associate", beaming.... "Sir, we don't have any in stock, but
you can order that online!"

Me, scowling.... "Why the hell would I have driven 50 miles and be
standing here in your store, if I wanted to buy that online? You can't
sell me what you don't have."

"Sales associate", now assuming the deer-in-the-headlights stance....

I keep a Defender Catalog for punishment.....

If he wasn't so stunned by your performance, he might have said, "Next
time, think, and call ahead.

On Aug 16, 7:59*am, Gene wrote:
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:07:14 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

But they always seem to be back ordered because some bean counter told
them they were stocking too much inventory. So just about every time
I'd place an order the parts or units weren't on the shelf.

Sounds like West Marine.

"Sales associate", beaming.... "Sir, we don't have any in stock, but
you can order that online!"

Me, scowling.... "Why the hell would I have driven 50 miles and be
standing here in your store, if I wanted to buy that online? You can't
sell me what you don't have."

"Sales associate", now assuming the deer-in-the-headlights stance....

I keep a Defender Catalog for punishment.....
--

Forté Agent 5.00 Build 1171

"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by
the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do.
So, throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor.
Catch the trade winds in your sails.
Explore. Dream. Discover." * - Unknown

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepagehttp://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm

Just to add, I see Harry is on a Glen Beck kick abotu advertisers
pulling away from his show, which means they pull away from Fox News.
OK, Well, lets see another flip of the coin.

My wife an I just canceled our Dish Network subscription. We got tired
of paying over$100.00 a month for a boob tube. I mean, they brag about
all the "channels" they offer, and if you want something specific you
have to take the :"package" just to get the programming you want,
like about 20 so called radio channels, countless home shopping
network stations, and a bunch of others you couldn't give a rats hind
end for.

OK fine.

So we got Fox News as well as CNBC, CNN, CSPAN, MSNBC, etc.

So now we've dropped the whole thing.

So if somebody ran a poll and asked if we watched the Glen Beck show,
we would say "no".

But the poll would not state that we don't watch Olberman, Rachael,
Wolf, or Chris either.

So therefore, it seems that since we don't watch Beck, then that means
his ratings are down, and the advertisers won't want to sell there
wares on a show that isn't watched.

Why? because they would be told that his ratings are dropping like
flies due to lack of viewing!


go figgah!

Tim wrote:
On Aug 16, 7:59 am, Gene wrote:
On Sat, 15 Aug 2009 16:07:14 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

But they always seem to be back ordered because some bean counter told
them they were stocking too much inventory. So just about every time
I'd place an order the parts or units weren't on the shelf.
Sounds like West Marine.

"Sales associate", beaming.... "Sir, we don't have any in stock, but
you can order that online!"

Me, scowling.... "Why the hell would I have driven 50 miles and be
standing here in your store, if I wanted to buy that online? You can't
sell me what you don't have."

"Sales associate", now assuming the deer-in-the-headlights stance....

I keep a Defender Catalog for punishment.....
--

Forté Agent 5.00 Build 1171

"Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by
the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do.
So, throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor.
Catch the trade winds in your sails.
Explore. Dream. Discover." - Unknown

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Oak Island, NC.

Homepagehttp://pamandgene.tranquilrefuge.net/boating/the_boat/my_boat.htm

Just to add, I see Harry is on a Glen Beck kick abotu advertisers
pulling away from his show, which means they pull away from Fox News.
OK, Well, lets see another flip of the coin.

My wife an I just canceled our Dish Network subscription. We got tired
of paying over$100.00 a month for a boob tube. I mean, they brag about
all the "channels" they offer, and if you want something specific you
have to take the :"package" just to get the programming you want,
like about 20 so called radio channels, countless home shopping
network stations, and a bunch of others you couldn't give a rats hind
end for.

OK fine.

So we got Fox News as well as CNBC, CNN, CSPAN, MSNBC, etc.

So now we've dropped the whole thing.

So if somebody ran a poll and asked if we watched the Glen Beck show,
we would say "no".

But the poll would not state that we don't watch Olberman, Rachael,
Wolf, or Chris either.

So therefore, it seems that since we don't watch Beck, then that means
his ratings are down, and the advertisers won't want to sell there
wares on a show that isn't watched.

Why? because they would be told that his ratings are dropping like
flies due to lack of viewing!


go figgah!



I'm not on a "Glenn Beck kick." Beck is the most irresponsible of the
TV hosts-political pundits, and by a factor of 10. I don't watch his
show, but I do recall several times your good buddy Herring saying he
was a fan of Beck's. Well, there's no question the two of them go
together like tea and crumpets. It's a good thing to associate Beck and
that piece of **** Herring.

There's much less manual "polling" done in the old sense of the word on
TV viewership. The fact that you no longer have cable is taken into
account, and would have no impact on the ratings of cable shows.

Advertisers are not dropping Beck because of the number of views he has.
They're dropping him because of the totally irresponsible crap he says
on the air.