A fading Obama screw-up
 

Frogwatch wrote:
On Aug 11, 11:16 am, NotNow wrote:
JustWait wrote:
In article , says...
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 10, 9:35 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
Obama's support of legally replaced Honduras Chavez wanna-be Zalaya
failed and the thug won't be back in power any time soon. The Obama
admin realizing they had no basis for complaining about Zelayas ouster
had to back down. Constitutional law won and Obama and Chavez and
Castro lost.
zalaya is a stupid ******* but obama, unlike his predecessor, believes
in the rule of law. i realize that, to right wingers, the rule of law
is something for other people, and power is the only law...but to some
of us, constitutional principles still have meaning.
To review the facts of the case, the Supreme Court of Honduras removed
the sitting president for illegal activities. The Congress of Honduras
appointed the new president under the Courts supervision.
As with everything else, if the obamadytes disagree with it, it is
trivialized or ignored. They still think there is no opposition to
their national health care plan.
Really.. I just watched 25 questions to Arlen Specter (sp?) and only one
was supportive (even she had problems with the bill), yet the moron
stood there and said something like "most Americans want this bill".
What is he smoking...
Why would he have to be smoking something, Scotty? Here, take a look:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/121664/ma...hcare-reform-t...

I have read the Honduran constitution and it specifically required the
military to act to remove the Pres, not the police. Zelaya was not
exiled, he was simply told that if he came back he would be arrested
for his illegal actions. He can go back whenever he wants but he will
be arrested as REQUIRED by the constitution.
The reality is that Obama DOES NOT support constitutional law. Zelaya
attempted to mount a coup and got caught. Thunder sis simply wrong
and does not even try to find out the real situation.

What does that have to do with the facts I posted about the fallacy that
most people in the U.S. don't want the government to help sort out the
screwed up healthcare system?

A fading Obama screw-up
 

On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:42:41 -0700, Calif Bill wrote:


There is an immense gap between wanting healthcare reform and wanting
the government version. A majority acknowledges that we have problems.
But the fix according to the Fed's fix is not good to most people.

So, let's go with the Republican plan. Oh, that's right, they don't have
one, and from what I can see, there are only about 3 Republican Senators
giving input to the Democrats. The rest are behaving as the Party of NO!

A fading Obama screw-up
 

In article ,
says...

JustWait wrote:
In article , says...
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 10, 9:35 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
Obama's support of legally replaced Honduras Chavez wanna-be Zalaya
failed and the thug won't be back in power any time soon. The Obama
admin realizing they had no basis for complaining about Zelayas ouster
had to back down. Constitutional law won and Obama and Chavez and
Castro lost.
zalaya is a stupid ******* but obama, unlike his predecessor, believes
in the rule of law. i realize that, to right wingers, the rule of law
is something for other people, and power is the only law...but to some
of us, constitutional principles still have meaning.
To review the facts of the case, the Supreme Court of Honduras removed
the sitting president for illegal activities. The Congress of Honduras
appointed the new president under the Courts supervision.

As with everything else, if the obamadytes disagree with it, it is
trivialized or ignored. They still think there is no opposition to
their national health care plan.

Really.. I just watched 25 questions to Arlen Specter (sp?) and only one
was supportive (even she had problems with the bill), yet the moron
stood there and said something like "most Americans want this bill".
What is he smoking...


Why would he have to be smoking something, Scotty? Here, take a look:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/121664/ma...this-year.aspx

Yes, we want health care reform. Not a govt. takeover.. Think Tort
reform, and freedom of choice across state lines. Those two issues alone
would make a huge difference but the Democrats will not go against the
trial lawyers..

--
Wafa free since 2009

A fading Obama screw-up
 

"thunder" wrote in message
t...
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:38:36 -0700, Calif Bill wrote:


The Congress tried him. Same as a US President. He does not go to a
Federal court for illegal stuff committed as the POTUS. Congress
impeaches and tries him.

Yeah, but it's a different Constitution. I couldn't find anything in it
about impeachment. And their Congress tried him *after* the coup, and in
CYA.

So they call it something else than impeachment.

A fading Obama screw-up
 

"thunder" wrote in message
t...
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:42:41 -0700, Calif Bill wrote:


There is an immense gap between wanting healthcare reform and wanting
the government version. A majority acknowledges that we have problems.
But the fix according to the Fed's fix is not good to most people.

So, let's go with the Republican plan. Oh, that's right, they don't have
one, and from what I can see, there are only about 3 Republican Senators
giving input to the Democrats. The rest are behaving as the Party of NO!


Both the parties are FUBAR. Just because neither has a good plan, do we
have to pick a plan of the two bad plans?

A fading Obama screw-up
 

In article ,
says...

"NotNow" wrote in message
...
JustWait wrote:
In article , says...
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 10, 9:35 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
Obama's support of legally replaced Honduras Chavez wanna-be Zalaya
failed and the thug won't be back in power any time soon. The Obama
admin realizing they had no basis for complaining about Zelayas ouster
had to back down. Constitutional law won and Obama and Chavez and
Castro lost.
zalaya is a stupid ******* but obama, unlike his predecessor, believes
in the rule of law. i realize that, to right wingers, the rule of law
is something for other people, and power is the only law...but to some
of us, constitutional principles still have meaning.
To review the facts of the case, the Supreme Court of Honduras removed
the sitting president for illegal activities. The Congress of Honduras
appointed the new president under the Courts supervision.

As with everything else, if the obamadytes disagree with it, it is
trivialized or ignored. They still think there is no opposition to
their national health care plan.

Really.. I just watched 25 questions to Arlen Specter (sp?) and only one
was supportive (even she had problems with the bill), yet the moron stood
there and said something like "most Americans want this bill". What is he
smoking...


Why would he have to be smoking something, Scotty? Here, take a look:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/121664/ma...this-year.aspx

There is an immense gap between wanting healthcare reform and wanting the
government version. A majority acknowledges that we have problems. But the
fix according to the Fed's fix is not good to most people.

Exactly, here is another poll showing the support for the proposed
health care reform is at an all time high...

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publ...rrent_events/h
ealthcare/august_
2009/support_for_congressional_health_care_reform_falls _to_new_low

or

http://tinyurl.com/qxz287

Read on, time to try out the new top end and carb setup.. ;)

Rowdy Mouse Racing, you run what 'cha brung!

--
Wafa free since 2009

A fading Obama screw-up
 

In article ,
says...

On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:42:41 -0700, Calif Bill wrote:


There is an immense gap between wanting healthcare reform and wanting
the government version. A majority acknowledges that we have problems.
But the fix according to the Fed's fix is not good to most people.

So, let's go with the Republican plan. Oh, that's right, they don't have
one, and from what I can see, there are only about 3 Republican Senators
giving input to the Democrats. The rest are behaving as the Party of NO!

That is bull... Total. The republicans have sumitted a plan, look it up.
Their plan has been rejected outright and the democrats refused to
debate it in comittee or even consider it, that is the facts mon...

--
Wafa free since 2009

A fading Obama screw-up
 

Calif Bill wrote:
"NotNow" wrote in message
...
JustWait wrote:
In article , says...
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 10, 9:35 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
Obama's support of legally replaced Honduras Chavez wanna-be Zalaya
failed and the thug won't be back in power any time soon. The Obama
admin realizing they had no basis for complaining about Zelayas ouster
had to back down. Constitutional law won and Obama and Chavez and
Castro lost.
zalaya is a stupid ******* but obama, unlike his predecessor, believes
in the rule of law. i realize that, to right wingers, the rule of law
is something for other people, and power is the only law...but to some
of us, constitutional principles still have meaning.
To review the facts of the case, the Supreme Court of Honduras removed
the sitting president for illegal activities. The Congress of Honduras
appointed the new president under the Courts supervision.

As with everything else, if the obamadytes disagree with it, it is
trivialized or ignored. They still think there is no opposition to
their national health care plan.
Really.. I just watched 25 questions to Arlen Specter (sp?) and only one
was supportive (even she had problems with the bill), yet the moron stood
there and said something like "most Americans want this bill". What is he
smoking...

Why would he have to be smoking something, Scotty? Here, take a look:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/121664/ma...this-year.aspx

There is an immense gap between wanting healthcare reform and wanting the
government version. A majority acknowledges that we have problems. But the
fix according to the Fed's fix is not good to most people.


The above poll is exclusive to the government reformation.

A fading Obama screw-up
 

thunder wrote:
On Tue, 11 Aug 2009 10:38:36 -0700, Calif Bill wrote:

The Congress tried him. Same as a US President. He does not go to a
Federal court for illegal stuff committed as the POTUS. Congress
impeaches and tries him.

Yeah, but it's a different Constitution. I couldn't find anything in it
about impeachment. And their Congress tried him *after* the coup, and in
CYA.

Now you can't let some facts get in the way of a good conservative lie!

A fading Obama screw-up
 

JustWait wrote:
In article ,
says...
JustWait wrote:
In article , says...
wf3h wrote:
On Aug 10, 9:35 pm, Frogwatch wrote:
Obama's support of legally replaced Honduras Chavez wanna-be Zalaya
failed and the thug won't be back in power any time soon. The Obama
admin realizing they had no basis for complaining about Zelayas ouster
had to back down. Constitutional law won and Obama and Chavez and
Castro lost.
zalaya is a stupid ******* but obama, unlike his predecessor, believes
in the rule of law. i realize that, to right wingers, the rule of law
is something for other people, and power is the only law...but to some
of us, constitutional principles still have meaning.
To review the facts of the case, the Supreme Court of Honduras removed
the sitting president for illegal activities. The Congress of Honduras
appointed the new president under the Courts supervision.

As with everything else, if the obamadytes disagree with it, it is
trivialized or ignored. They still think there is no opposition to
their national health care plan.
Really.. I just watched 25 questions to Arlen Specter (sp?) and only one
was supportive (even she had problems with the bill), yet the moron
stood there and said something like "most Americans want this bill".
What is he smoking...

Why would he have to be smoking something, Scotty? Here, take a look:

http://www.gallup.com/poll/121664/ma...this-year.aspx

Yes, we want health care reform. Not a govt. takeover.. Think Tort
reform, and freedom of choice across state lines. Those two issues alone
would make a huge difference but the Democrats will not go against the
trial lawyers..


Did you LOOK at the poll? Notice the words "a USA Today/Gallup poll
finds 56% of Americans in favor and 33% opposed to Congress' passing
major healthcare reform legislation this year." If I'm not mistaken,
"congress" IS government!