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On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:11:43 -0700 (PDT), Scott Dickson
wrote: Here goes..... The Boat has a glass-bowl type sock screen fuel filter POST tank...PRE Fuel pump. My question is this: Should the glass bowl be FULL of fuel while under way, and at all times? If so, I can say I have sucked up something to block the flow. The filter DOES have a "Primer Button" on it, but when pushed...nothing happens. S. It should be post tank and pre-pump. Don't think it's necessary to have the bowl full for it to work properly. Are you experiencing fuel starvation? |
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On Jul 17, 10:31*pm, jps wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:11:43 -0700 (PDT), Scott Dickson wrote: Here goes..... The Boat has a glass-bowl type sock screen fuel filter POST tank...PRE Fuel pump. My question is this: Should the glass bowl be FULL of fuel while under way, and at all times? If so, I can say I have sucked up something to block the flow. The filter DOES have a "Primer Button" on it, but when pushed...nothing happens. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * S. It should be post tank and pre-pump. *Don't think it's necessary to have the bowl full for it to work properly. Are you experiencing fuel starvation? It ran great at first, the other day. Went out WOT for about 10 minutes @ 33mph.I needed to get it hot to check for leaks and temperature after thermostat repair. Temperature was fine. Slowed to troll, and it wouldn't keep idle. Carb has been cleaned, check ball and all. When I got it in, I took off the pre-carb filter, and it had gas in it. My friend is convinced it's the Voltage Regulator. After trolling in 10 miles @ 3 mph (all it would do, and stay running), the batteries were dead. If I advanced throttle, it would cough. It died near the dock. We were waiting for another 26 foot boat that had been towed in, out of fuel; and had to "hover" for 5 minutes. The dudes in the towed boat had been out a day and a half. Apparently, they came up the Lake, and never stopped for fuel at Long Point, or Port Bruce....DOH!!!!!! |
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On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:24:59 -0700 (PDT), Scott Dickson
wrote: On Jul 17, 10:31*pm, jps wrote: On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:11:43 -0700 (PDT), Scott Dickson wrote: Here goes..... The Boat has a glass-bowl type sock screen fuel filter POST tank...PRE Fuel pump. My question is this: Should the glass bowl be FULL of fuel while under way, and at all times? If so, I can say I have sucked up something to block the flow. The filter DOES have a "Primer Button" on it, but when pushed...nothing happens. It should be post tank and pre-pump. *Don't think it's necessary to have the bowl full for it to work properly. Are you experiencing fuel starvation? It ran great at first, the other day. Went out WOT for about 10 minutes @ 33mph.I needed to get it hot to check for leaks and temperature after thermostat repair. Temperature was fine. Slowed to troll, and it wouldn't keep idle. Carb has been cleaned, check ball and all. When I got it in, I took off the pre-carb filter, and it had gas in it. My friend is convinced it's the Voltage Regulator. After trolling in 10 miles @ 3 mph (all it would do, and stay running), the batteries were dead. If I advanced throttle, it would cough. It died near the dock. We were waiting for another 26 foot boat that had been towed in, out of fuel; and had to "hover" for 5 minutes. The dudes in the towed boat had been out a day and a half. Apparently, they came up the Lake, and never stopped for fuel at Long Point, or Port Bruce....DOH!!!!!! That's interesting on the fuel filter - don't see those often anymore. How old is this boat? Anyway... No, the fuel bowl should work fine at half full assuming that the fuel pump is drawing properly and there aren't any restrictions in the line itself. With respect to the voltage problem - certainly the voltage regulator could cause that kind of problem if it's not feeding the battery properly, but I'd pull the alternator off and take it to Auto Zone or a parts house that can test it for you - that's a very common symptom of a bad alternator. |
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On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:24:59 -0700 (PDT), Scott Dickson
wrote: On Jul 17, 10:31*pm, jps wrote: On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:11:43 -0700 (PDT), Scott Dickson wrote: Here goes..... The Boat has a glass-bowl type sock screen fuel filter POST tank...PRE Fuel pump. My question is this: Should the glass bowl be FULL of fuel while under way, and at all times? If so, I can say I have sucked up something to block the flow. The filter DOES have a "Primer Button" on it, but when pushed...nothing happens. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * S. It should be post tank and pre-pump. *Don't think it's necessary to have the bowl full for it to work properly. Are you experiencing fuel starvation? It ran great at first, the other day. Went out WOT for about 10 minutes @ 33mph.I needed to get it hot to check for leaks and temperature after thermostat repair. Temperature was fine. Slowed to troll, and it wouldn't keep idle. Carb has been cleaned, check ball and all. When I got it in, I took off the pre-carb filter, and it had gas in it. My friend is convinced it's the Voltage Regulator. After trolling in 10 miles @ 3 mph (all it would do, and stay running), the batteries were dead. If I advanced throttle, it would cough. It died near the dock. We were waiting for another 26 foot boat that had been towed in, out of fuel; and had to "hover" for 5 minutes. The dudes in the towed boat had been out a day and a half. Apparently, they came up the Lake, and never stopped for fuel at Long Point, or Port Bruce....DOH!!!!!! He thinks the voltage regulator is causing the starvation symptoms? Did you check to see what was happening with the choke after it warmed up? Maybe need to recheck the float bowl and check valve to ensure they're working freely. |
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On Jul 18, 12:14*am, Captain Yogi of Woodstock wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:24:59 -0700 (PDT), Scott Dickson wrote: On Jul 17, 10:31*pm, jps wrote: On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:11:43 -0700 (PDT), Scott Dickson wrote: Here goes..... The Boat has a glass-bowl type sock screen fuel filter POST tank...PRE Fuel pump. My question is this: Should the glass bowl be FULL of fuel while under way, and at all times? If so, I can say I have sucked up something to block the flow. The filter DOES have a "Primer Button" on it, but when pushed...nothing happens. It should be post tank and pre-pump. *Don't think it's necessary to have the bowl full for it to work properly. Are you experiencing fuel starvation? It ran great at first, the other day. Went out WOT for about 10 minutes @ 33mph.I needed to get it hot to check for leaks and temperature after thermostat repair. Temperature was fine. Slowed to troll, and it wouldn't keep idle. Carb has been cleaned, check ball and all. When I got it in, I took off the pre-carb filter, and it had gas in it. My friend is convinced it's the Voltage Regulator. After trolling in 10 miles @ 3 mph (all it would do, and stay running), the batteries were dead. If I advanced throttle, it would cough. It died near the dock. We were waiting for another 26 foot boat that had been towed in, out of fuel; and had to "hover" for 5 minutes. The dudes in the towed boat had been out a day and a half. Apparently, they came up the Lake, and never stopped for fuel at Long Point, or Port Bruce....DOH!!!!!! That's interesting on the fuel filter - don't see those often anymore. How old is this boat? Anyway... No, the fuel bowl should work fine at half full assuming that the fuel pump is drawing properly and there aren't any restrictions in the line itself. With respect to the voltage problem - certainly the voltage regulator could cause that kind of problem if it's not feeding the battery properly, but I'd pull the alternator off and take it to Auto Zone or a parts house that can test it for you - that's a very common symptom of a bad alternator. Same age as the one you chopped. 1966 Chris Craft Sea-V Transdrive. 226 Buick V6, 1 barrel carb. Alternator was checked with my multi-meter, and was putting out 13.4 to 14 volts. |
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On Jul 18, 1:05*am, jps wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:24:59 -0700 (PDT), Scott Dickson wrote: On Jul 17, 10:31*pm, jps wrote: On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:11:43 -0700 (PDT), Scott Dickson wrote: Here goes..... The Boat has a glass-bowl type sock screen fuel filter POST tank...PRE Fuel pump. My question is this: Should the glass bowl be FULL of fuel while under way, and at all times? If so, I can say I have sucked up something to block the flow. The filter DOES have a "Primer Button" on it, but when pushed...nothing happens. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * S. It should be post tank and pre-pump. *Don't think it's necessary to have the bowl full for it to work properly. Are you experiencing fuel starvation? It ran great at first, the other day. Went out WOT for about 10 minutes @ 33mph.I needed to get it hot to check for leaks and temperature after thermostat repair. Temperature was fine. Slowed to troll, and it wouldn't keep idle. Carb has been cleaned, check ball and all. When I got it in, I took off the pre-carb filter, and it had gas in it. My friend is convinced it's the Voltage Regulator. After trolling in 10 miles @ 3 mph (all it would do, and stay running), the batteries were dead. If I advanced throttle, it would cough. It died near the dock. We were waiting for another 26 foot boat that had been towed in, out of fuel; and had to "hover" for 5 minutes. The dudes in the towed boat had been out a day and a half. Apparently, they came up the Lake, and never stopped for fuel at Long Point, or Port Bruce....DOH!!!!!! He thinks the voltage regulator is causing the starvation symptoms? * Did you check to see what was happening with the choke after it warmed up? *Maybe need to recheck the float bowl and check valve to ensure they're working freely. Carb has been torn down, and cleaned (including check ball).Like I said, the boat ran great all the way out at WOT. He thinks the voltage regulator is causing the starvation symptoms? No, the theory on that was a suspicion of loss of power to the ignition. |
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On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:06:44 -0700 (PDT), Scott Dickson
wrote: On Jul 18, 1:05*am, jps wrote: On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:24:59 -0700 (PDT), Scott Dickson wrote: On Jul 17, 10:31*pm, jps wrote: On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:11:43 -0700 (PDT), Scott Dickson wrote: Here goes..... The Boat has a glass-bowl type sock screen fuel filter POST tank...PRE Fuel pump. My question is this: Should the glass bowl be FULL of fuel while under way, and at all times? If so, I can say I have sucked up something to block the flow. The filter DOES have a "Primer Button" on it, but when pushed...nothing happens. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * S. It should be post tank and pre-pump. *Don't think it's necessary to have the bowl full for it to work properly. Are you experiencing fuel starvation? It ran great at first, the other day. Went out WOT for about 10 minutes @ 33mph.I needed to get it hot to check for leaks and temperature after thermostat repair. Temperature was fine. Slowed to troll, and it wouldn't keep idle. Carb has been cleaned, check ball and all. When I got it in, I took off the pre-carb filter, and it had gas in it. My friend is convinced it's the Voltage Regulator. After trolling in 10 miles @ 3 mph (all it would do, and stay running), the batteries were dead. If I advanced throttle, it would cough. It died near the dock. We were waiting for another 26 foot boat that had been towed in, out of fuel; and had to "hover" for 5 minutes. The dudes in the towed boat had been out a day and a half. Apparently, they came up the Lake, and never stopped for fuel at Long Point, or Port Bruce....DOH!!!!!! He thinks the voltage regulator is causing the starvation symptoms? * Did you check to see what was happening with the choke after it warmed up? *Maybe need to recheck the float bowl and check valve to ensure they're working freely. Carb has been torn down, and cleaned (including check ball).Like I said, the boat ran great all the way out at WOT. He thinks the voltage regulator is causing the starvation symptoms? No, the theory on that was a suspicion of loss of power to the ignition. Ah, yes. I get it. Did you find anything yet? |
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On Jul 21, 3:55*am, jps wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:06:44 -0700 (PDT), Scott Dickson wrote: On Jul 18, 1:05*am, jps wrote: On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:24:59 -0700 (PDT), Scott Dickson wrote: On Jul 17, 10:31*pm, jps wrote: On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:11:43 -0700 (PDT), Scott Dickson wrote: Here goes..... The Boat has a glass-bowl type sock screen fuel filter POST tank...PRE Fuel pump. My question is this: Should the glass bowl be FULL of fuel while under way, and at all times? If so, I can say I have sucked up something to block the flow. The filter DOES have a "Primer Button" on it, but when pushed...nothing happens. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * S. It should be post tank and pre-pump. *Don't think it's necessary to have the bowl full for it to work properly. Are you experiencing fuel starvation? It ran great at first, the other day. Went out WOT for about 10 minutes @ 33mph.I needed to get it hot to check for leaks and temperature after thermostat repair. Temperature was fine. Slowed to troll, and it wouldn't keep idle. Carb has been cleaned, check ball and all. When I got it in, I took off the pre-carb filter, and it had gas in it. My friend is convinced it's the Voltage Regulator. After trolling in 10 miles @ 3 mph (all it would do, and stay running), the batteries were dead. If I advanced throttle, it would cough. It died near the dock. We were waiting for another 26 foot boat that had been towed in, out of fuel; and had to "hover" for 5 minutes. The dudes in the towed boat had been out a day and a half. Apparently, they came up the Lake, and never stopped for fuel at Long Point, or Port Bruce....DOH!!!!!! He thinks the voltage regulator is causing the starvation symptoms? * Did you check to see what was happening with the choke after it warmed up? *Maybe need to recheck the float bowl and check valve to ensure they're working freely. Carb has been torn down, and cleaned (including check ball).Like I said, the boat ran great all the way out at WOT. He thinks the voltage regulator is causing the starvation symptoms? * No, the theory on that was a suspicion of loss of power to the ignition. Ah, yes. *I get it. *Did you find anything yet? Voltage Regulator was the problem. Alternator is still going strong. I have a spare from the other engine I bought. Alt. Shop guy was great. Didn't actually have the required part, but found a cross- reference and had that one. All in, including benching BOTH Alternators was $50.00 Tomorrow is a test and fishing. |
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