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On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:11:43 -0700 (PDT), Scott Dickson
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Here goes..... The Boat has a glass-bowl type sock screen fuel filter
POST tank...PRE Fuel pump.
My question is this: Should the glass bowl be FULL of fuel while under
way, and at all times?
If so, I can say I have sucked up something to block the flow. The
filter DOES have a "Primer Button" on it, but when pushed...nothing
happens.

S.


It should be post tank and pre-pump. Don't think it's necessary to
have the bowl full for it to work properly.

Are you experiencing fuel starvation?
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On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:11:43 -0700 (PDT), Scott Dickson

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Here goes..... The Boat has a glass-bowl type sock screen fuel filter
POST tank...PRE Fuel pump.
My question is this: Should the glass bowl be FULL of fuel while under
way, and at all times?
If so, I can say I have sucked up something to block the flow. The
filter DOES have a "Primer Button" on it, but when pushed...nothing
happens.


* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * S.


It should be post tank and pre-pump. *Don't think it's necessary to
have the bowl full for it to work properly.

Are you experiencing fuel starvation?


It ran great at first, the other day. Went out WOT for about 10
minutes @ 33mph.I needed to get it hot to check for leaks and
temperature after thermostat repair. Temperature was fine. Slowed to
troll, and it wouldn't keep idle. Carb has been cleaned, check ball
and all. When I got it in, I took off the pre-carb filter, and it had
gas in it.
My friend is convinced it's the Voltage Regulator. After trolling in
10 miles @ 3 mph (all it would do, and stay running), the batteries
were dead. If I advanced throttle, it would cough. It died near the
dock. We were waiting for another 26 foot boat that had been towed in,
out of fuel; and had to "hover" for 5 minutes.

The dudes in the towed boat had been out a day and a half. Apparently,
they came up the Lake, and never stopped for fuel at Long Point, or
Port Bruce....DOH!!!!!!
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On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:24:59 -0700 (PDT), Scott Dickson
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On Jul 17, 10:31*pm, jps wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:11:43 -0700 (PDT), Scott Dickson

wrote:
Here goes..... The Boat has a glass-bowl type sock screen fuel filter
POST tank...PRE Fuel pump.
My question is this: Should the glass bowl be FULL of fuel while under
way, and at all times?
If so, I can say I have sucked up something to block the flow. The
filter DOES have a "Primer Button" on it, but when pushed...nothing
happens.


It should be post tank and pre-pump. *Don't think it's necessary to
have the bowl full for it to work properly.

Are you experiencing fuel starvation?


It ran great at first, the other day. Went out WOT for about 10
minutes @ 33mph.I needed to get it hot to check for leaks and
temperature after thermostat repair. Temperature was fine. Slowed to
troll, and it wouldn't keep idle. Carb has been cleaned, check ball
and all. When I got it in, I took off the pre-carb filter, and it had
gas in it.
My friend is convinced it's the Voltage Regulator. After trolling in
10 miles @ 3 mph (all it would do, and stay running), the batteries
were dead. If I advanced throttle, it would cough. It died near the
dock. We were waiting for another 26 foot boat that had been towed in,
out of fuel; and had to "hover" for 5 minutes.

The dudes in the towed boat had been out a day and a half. Apparently,
they came up the Lake, and never stopped for fuel at Long Point, or
Port Bruce....DOH!!!!!!


That's interesting on the fuel filter - don't see those often anymore.

How old is this boat?

Anyway...

No, the fuel bowl should work fine at half full assuming that the fuel
pump is drawing properly and there aren't any restrictions in the line
itself.

With respect to the voltage problem - certainly the voltage regulator
could cause that kind of problem if it's not feeding the battery
properly, but I'd pull the alternator off and take it to Auto Zone or
a parts house that can test it for you - that's a very common symptom
of a bad alternator.
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On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:24:59 -0700 (PDT), Scott Dickson
wrote:

On Jul 17, 10:31*pm, jps wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:11:43 -0700 (PDT), Scott Dickson

wrote:
Here goes..... The Boat has a glass-bowl type sock screen fuel filter
POST tank...PRE Fuel pump.
My question is this: Should the glass bowl be FULL of fuel while under
way, and at all times?
If so, I can say I have sucked up something to block the flow. The
filter DOES have a "Primer Button" on it, but when pushed...nothing
happens.


* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * S.


It should be post tank and pre-pump. *Don't think it's necessary to
have the bowl full for it to work properly.

Are you experiencing fuel starvation?


It ran great at first, the other day. Went out WOT for about 10
minutes @ 33mph.I needed to get it hot to check for leaks and
temperature after thermostat repair. Temperature was fine. Slowed to
troll, and it wouldn't keep idle. Carb has been cleaned, check ball
and all. When I got it in, I took off the pre-carb filter, and it had
gas in it.
My friend is convinced it's the Voltage Regulator. After trolling in
10 miles @ 3 mph (all it would do, and stay running), the batteries
were dead. If I advanced throttle, it would cough. It died near the
dock. We were waiting for another 26 foot boat that had been towed in,
out of fuel; and had to "hover" for 5 minutes.

The dudes in the towed boat had been out a day and a half. Apparently,
they came up the Lake, and never stopped for fuel at Long Point, or
Port Bruce....DOH!!!!!!


He thinks the voltage regulator is causing the starvation symptoms?

Did you check to see what was happening with the choke after it warmed
up? Maybe need to recheck the float bowl and check valve to ensure
they're working freely.
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On Jul 18, 12:14*am, Captain Yogi of Woodstock wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:24:59 -0700 (PDT), Scott Dickson



wrote:
On Jul 17, 10:31*pm, jps wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:11:43 -0700 (PDT), Scott Dickson


wrote:
Here goes..... The Boat has a glass-bowl type sock screen fuel filter
POST tank...PRE Fuel pump.
My question is this: Should the glass bowl be FULL of fuel while under
way, and at all times?
If so, I can say I have sucked up something to block the flow. The
filter DOES have a "Primer Button" on it, but when pushed...nothing
happens.


It should be post tank and pre-pump. *Don't think it's necessary to
have the bowl full for it to work properly.


Are you experiencing fuel starvation?


It ran great at first, the other day. Went out WOT for about 10
minutes @ 33mph.I needed to get it hot to check for leaks and
temperature after thermostat repair. Temperature was fine. Slowed to
troll, and it wouldn't keep idle. Carb has been cleaned, check ball
and all. When I got it in, I took off the pre-carb filter, and it had
gas in it.
My friend is convinced it's the Voltage Regulator. After trolling in
10 miles @ 3 mph (all it would do, and stay running), the batteries
were dead. If I advanced throttle, it would cough. It died near the
dock. We were waiting for another 26 foot boat that had been towed in,
out of fuel; and had to "hover" for 5 minutes.


The dudes in the towed boat had been out a day and a half. Apparently,
they came up the Lake, and never stopped for fuel at Long Point, or
Port Bruce....DOH!!!!!!


That's interesting on the fuel filter - don't see those often anymore.

How old is this boat?

Anyway...

No, the fuel bowl should work fine at half full assuming that the fuel
pump is drawing properly and there aren't any restrictions in the line
itself.

With respect to the voltage problem - certainly the voltage regulator
could cause that kind of problem if it's not feeding the battery
properly, but I'd pull the alternator off and take it to Auto Zone or
a parts house that can test it for you - that's a very common symptom
of a bad alternator.


Same age as the one you chopped. 1966 Chris Craft Sea-V Transdrive.
226 Buick V6, 1 barrel carb.
Alternator was checked with my multi-meter, and was putting out 13.4
to 14 volts.


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On Jul 18, 1:05*am, jps wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:24:59 -0700 (PDT), Scott Dickson



wrote:
On Jul 17, 10:31*pm, jps wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:11:43 -0700 (PDT), Scott Dickson


wrote:
Here goes..... The Boat has a glass-bowl type sock screen fuel filter
POST tank...PRE Fuel pump.
My question is this: Should the glass bowl be FULL of fuel while under
way, and at all times?
If so, I can say I have sucked up something to block the flow. The
filter DOES have a "Primer Button" on it, but when pushed...nothing
happens.


* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * S.


It should be post tank and pre-pump. *Don't think it's necessary to
have the bowl full for it to work properly.


Are you experiencing fuel starvation?


It ran great at first, the other day. Went out WOT for about 10
minutes @ 33mph.I needed to get it hot to check for leaks and
temperature after thermostat repair. Temperature was fine. Slowed to
troll, and it wouldn't keep idle. Carb has been cleaned, check ball
and all. When I got it in, I took off the pre-carb filter, and it had
gas in it.
My friend is convinced it's the Voltage Regulator. After trolling in
10 miles @ 3 mph (all it would do, and stay running), the batteries
were dead. If I advanced throttle, it would cough. It died near the
dock. We were waiting for another 26 foot boat that had been towed in,
out of fuel; and had to "hover" for 5 minutes.


The dudes in the towed boat had been out a day and a half. Apparently,
they came up the Lake, and never stopped for fuel at Long Point, or
Port Bruce....DOH!!!!!!


He thinks the voltage regulator is causing the starvation symptoms? *

Did you check to see what was happening with the choke after it warmed
up? *Maybe need to recheck the float bowl and check valve to ensure
they're working freely.


Carb has been torn down, and cleaned (including check ball).Like I
said, the boat ran great all the way out at WOT.

He thinks the voltage regulator is causing the starvation
symptoms?

No, the theory on that was a suspicion of loss of power to the
ignition.
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On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:06:44 -0700 (PDT), Scott Dickson
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On Jul 18, 1:05*am, jps wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:24:59 -0700 (PDT), Scott Dickson



wrote:
On Jul 17, 10:31*pm, jps wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:11:43 -0700 (PDT), Scott Dickson


wrote:
Here goes..... The Boat has a glass-bowl type sock screen fuel filter
POST tank...PRE Fuel pump.
My question is this: Should the glass bowl be FULL of fuel while under
way, and at all times?
If so, I can say I have sucked up something to block the flow. The
filter DOES have a "Primer Button" on it, but when pushed...nothing
happens.


* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * S.


It should be post tank and pre-pump. *Don't think it's necessary to
have the bowl full for it to work properly.


Are you experiencing fuel starvation?


It ran great at first, the other day. Went out WOT for about 10
minutes @ 33mph.I needed to get it hot to check for leaks and
temperature after thermostat repair. Temperature was fine. Slowed to
troll, and it wouldn't keep idle. Carb has been cleaned, check ball
and all. When I got it in, I took off the pre-carb filter, and it had
gas in it.
My friend is convinced it's the Voltage Regulator. After trolling in
10 miles @ 3 mph (all it would do, and stay running), the batteries
were dead. If I advanced throttle, it would cough. It died near the
dock. We were waiting for another 26 foot boat that had been towed in,
out of fuel; and had to "hover" for 5 minutes.


The dudes in the towed boat had been out a day and a half. Apparently,
they came up the Lake, and never stopped for fuel at Long Point, or
Port Bruce....DOH!!!!!!


He thinks the voltage regulator is causing the starvation symptoms? *

Did you check to see what was happening with the choke after it warmed
up? *Maybe need to recheck the float bowl and check valve to ensure
they're working freely.


Carb has been torn down, and cleaned (including check ball).Like I
said, the boat ran great all the way out at WOT.

He thinks the voltage regulator is causing the starvation
symptoms?

No, the theory on that was a suspicion of loss of power to the
ignition.


Ah, yes. I get it. Did you find anything yet?
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On Jul 21, 3:55*am, jps wrote:
On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 09:06:44 -0700 (PDT), Scott Dickson



wrote:
On Jul 18, 1:05*am, jps wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 20:24:59 -0700 (PDT), Scott Dickson


wrote:
On Jul 17, 10:31*pm, jps wrote:
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 13:11:43 -0700 (PDT), Scott Dickson


wrote:
Here goes..... The Boat has a glass-bowl type sock screen fuel filter
POST tank...PRE Fuel pump.
My question is this: Should the glass bowl be FULL of fuel while under
way, and at all times?
If so, I can say I have sucked up something to block the flow. The
filter DOES have a "Primer Button" on it, but when pushed...nothing
happens.


* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * S.


It should be post tank and pre-pump. *Don't think it's necessary to
have the bowl full for it to work properly.


Are you experiencing fuel starvation?


It ran great at first, the other day. Went out WOT for about 10
minutes @ 33mph.I needed to get it hot to check for leaks and
temperature after thermostat repair. Temperature was fine. Slowed to
troll, and it wouldn't keep idle. Carb has been cleaned, check ball
and all. When I got it in, I took off the pre-carb filter, and it had
gas in it.
My friend is convinced it's the Voltage Regulator. After trolling in
10 miles @ 3 mph (all it would do, and stay running), the batteries
were dead. If I advanced throttle, it would cough. It died near the
dock. We were waiting for another 26 foot boat that had been towed in,
out of fuel; and had to "hover" for 5 minutes.


The dudes in the towed boat had been out a day and a half. Apparently,
they came up the Lake, and never stopped for fuel at Long Point, or
Port Bruce....DOH!!!!!!


He thinks the voltage regulator is causing the starvation symptoms? *


Did you check to see what was happening with the choke after it warmed
up? *Maybe need to recheck the float bowl and check valve to ensure
they're working freely.


Carb has been torn down, and cleaned (including check ball).Like I
said, the boat ran great all the way out at WOT.


He thinks the voltage regulator is causing the starvation
symptoms? *


No, the theory on that was a suspicion of loss of power to the
ignition.


Ah, yes. *I get it. *Did you find anything yet?


Voltage Regulator was the problem. Alternator is still going strong. I
have a spare from the other engine I bought.
Alt. Shop guy was great. Didn't actually have the required part, but
found a cross- reference and had that one. All in, including benching
BOTH Alternators was $50.00
Tomorrow is a test and fishing.
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