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This past weekend after a heavy rain, I took my boat (2050 bayliner
capri,2000 mercruiser 5.0L 350 engine) from my dock to take it out of the water. Unfortunately, I did not run my bilge pump nearly long enough and wound up stalling out in the bay. After getting towed to the put in and back to the house, I found water in the oil which I promptly changed, and cranked the engine up. It cranked immediately and ran for about 10 to 15 seconds, then died again. So I changed the fuel filter (filled with gas first) and now I cant get fuel to the carb. Have I lost my prime in the fuel pump, if so, how can I get it primed back or is the pump gone or am I missing something? |
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![]() sorry, 305 engine not 350 |
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In normal conditions the fuel pump does not need a prime. It is a diaphram
pump and is self priming. If you had enough water to get it in the oil you may have gotten it in the fuel tank too. Take the fuel filter off again and pour it intoa glass container to see what is in it. Did you have a lot of water in the original fuel filter? Water can cause problems in your fuel pump as well. The aresa around the little flapper valves get gummed up. But it would have had to be longer than this. How do you know you are not getting gas to the carb? Does it spray from the accelerator pump when you look down the throat of the carb? Maybe you have water in the carb too. "AL" wrote in message ups.com... This past weekend after a heavy rain, I took my boat (2050 bayliner capri,2000 mercruiser 5.0L 350 engine) from my dock to take it out of the water. Unfortunately, I did not run my bilge pump nearly long enough and wound up stalling out in the bay. After getting towed to the put in and back to the house, I found water in the oil which I promptly changed, and cranked the engine up. It cranked immediately and ran for about 10 to 15 seconds, then died again. So I changed the fuel filter (filled with gas first) and now I cant get fuel to the carb. Have I lost my prime in the fuel pump, if so, how can I get it primed back or is the pump gone or am I missing something? |
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![]() "AL" wrote in message ups.com... This past weekend after a heavy rain, I took my boat (2050 bayliner capri,2000 mercruiser 5.0L 350 engine) from my dock to take it out of the water. Unfortunately, I did not run my bilge pump nearly long enough and wound up stalling out in the bay. After getting towed to the put in and back to the house, I found water in the oil which I promptly changed, and cranked the engine up. It cranked immediately and ran for about 10 to 15 seconds, then died again. So I changed the fuel filter (filled with gas first) and now I cant get fuel to the carb. Have I lost my prime in the fuel pump, if so, how can I get it primed back or is the pump gone or am I missing something? You got enough water in the bilge from heavy rain to get water in your oil and gas? That boat must have been half submerged. No automatic bilge pump? Something doesn't make sense. Eisboch |
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Eisboch wrote:
"AL" wrote in message ups.com... This past weekend after a heavy rain, I took my boat (2050 bayliner capri,2000 mercruiser 5.0L 350 engine) from my dock to take it out of the water. Unfortunately, I did not run my bilge pump nearly long enough and wound up stalling out in the bay. After getting towed to the put in and back to the house, I found water in the oil which I promptly changed, and cranked the engine up. It cranked immediately and ran for about 10 to 15 seconds, then died again. So I changed the fuel filter (filled with gas first) and now I cant get fuel to the carb. Have I lost my prime in the fuel pump, if so, how can I get it primed back or is the pump gone or am I missing something? You got enough water in the bilge from heavy rain to get water in your oil and gas? That boat must have been half submerged. No automatic bilge pump? Something doesn't make sense. Eisboch Eisboch, What I guessed he did was threw water all over the engine compartment by water hitting the fan belts, and the water was ingested into the carb / fuel injectors. This would be possible with 6 to 8" of water in the bilge as the boat was coming on and off plane and the water was sloshing back and forth in the bilge. What made no sense to me at all, is how water got into the fuel filter. I would have thought the boat would have been submerged to to effect the fuel filter and at that point you would not be starting the engine. -- Reggie That's my story and I am sticking to it! |
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I could not tell if I was getting fuel in the carb, but I took the line
loose from the pump to the carb at the carb and got fuel to spew out (into a coke bottle). After I did this, the engine hit a couple times but then wouldn't hit again. I'm thinking the pump is primed but I may have water in the fuel. By the way, I have only owned the boat for about a month and it's my first i/o (had a pontoon with outboard) so I'm a little on the slow side when it comes to i/o boating. |
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I agree about your fuel concern. Boat won't run on water :-) Dump the
gas from the carb by removing it and turning it upside down. Put in back on. Dribble a little gas down the carb to get it started. Just run it for a half minute or so and then remove and dump the fuel filter to see how much water you picked up from the tank. Keep doing that and pouring the fuel filter into a glass container until it stops picking up water. If you are careful you can pour the gas off the top from the galss container. I use a 2 quart glass measuring cup. Don't tell your wife but wash it out real good :-) If you do this several times and still keep getting water in the fuel filter then you might have too much water in the tank and you're going to have to syphon it out. Best way is to remove the sending unit as that will let you hold a hose right at the bottom of the tank. With a flashlight you can sometimes see the water/fuel layer in a fuel tank through the hole where the sending unit goes. Too much water in the bilge can result in water in the oil. Gas engines do not really have a sealed oil system. There are lots of places that are sort of a inperfect fit like where the oil dipstick goes into the pan. If the bottom half of the engine sits in the water for a while it will get water in the oil. Iffy gaskets and connections to your fuel tank can cause the same problem when it is submerged. If yuou find a lot of water in your fuel tank then you should replace the sending unit gasket, any other gaskets, and check all the hose connections well. You really want a good sealed fuel tank. As always be extra careful messing around with gas. A few gallons can turn into a real fireball in the right (or should I say wrong) consditions. AL wrote: I could not tell if I was getting fuel in the carb, but I took the line loose from the pump to the carb at the carb and got fuel to spew out (into a coke bottle). After I did this, the engine hit a couple times but then wouldn't hit again. I'm thinking the pump is primed but I may have water in the fuel. By the way, I have only owned the boat for about a month and it's my first i/o (had a pontoon with outboard) so I'm a little on the slow side when it comes to i/o boating. |
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I appreciate the advice. I can get gas in the carb now and it still
will only it every now and then. I changed plugs (looked ok - no water) and I dont know if maybe the dist. cap got water condensated or fouled up some way, but I'm not a mech. and would rather have a pro do it so I'm going to send it to a marina and keep the fingers crossed. Does anybody out there think this is going to cost me my left leg, cause I sure as heck dont know? Thanks for the tips. |
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