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A tire pressure gauge is a couple of bucks at Auto Zone.

Eisboch

Ever try to read tire pressure at 70 MPH? 8)



Good point.

I am not sure I am all for the gadgets and high tech, computer
controlled wizardry in cars.
KISS. I think about the '06 M5 I had (all two of them). They
probably represented the state-of-the-art in electronic, CPU controlled
operation that year, from the engine management systems to the
electronically controlled SMG transmission that operates the clutch
electronically.

They were both a disaster. Traded in the first one because it had too
many software "bugs". Transmission would freeze up in neutral. The
famous "Red Cog of Death" would appear on the driver's display and your
only option was to call a flatbed. Traded that in for one that had a
later build date that reportedly had the bugs worked out. Nope. Car
was a spectacular performer, with 500 hp and handling that could safely
rocket you along at over 200 mph if you were so inclined (I wasn't),
but the damn thing wouldn't move half the time due to a software
malfunction.

That's when I traded it for the Porsche 911TT. Porsche remains
somewhat "old school" and other than those electronics that are
absolutely necessary, it was a driver's car. I like that.

Ironically though, it was Porsche, back in the late 80's, that developed
the first tire pressure monitoring system, based on speed sensors on all
four wheels.

Eisboch


I must have been thinking of some other over-priced replacement car part.
Although not oem you can get the whole kit for under $150.

http://www.automotix.net/bodyparts/2...-tpms409s.html

Car software problems. I have the two Lucernes, '07 and '08. On
occasion either one of them will lock the doors when you exit the
vehicle. When it first happened I talked with the local service manager
and they had never heard of it. Maybe a year later the same guy
confessed that they were now aware of the problem and the service guys
roll down a window just in case the car locks while they are working on
it. GM will not do anything about it.

It's a problem for me as we leave the keys in the car when they are
parked at home. I now carry a spare in my pocket.

Leave your keys in the car...while it's unlocked?
They'd love you around here...in no time at all your cars would be in a
container on its way to Russia or some 3rd world country.


Most of us do not live in a crime ridden cesspool.

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A tire pressure gauge is a couple of bucks at Auto Zone.

Eisboch

Ever try to read tire pressure at 70 MPH? 8)



Good point.

I am not sure I am all for the gadgets and high tech, computer
controlled wizardry in cars.
KISS. I think about the '06 M5 I had (all two of them). They
probably represented the state-of-the-art in electronic, CPU controlled
operation that year, from the engine management systems to the
electronically controlled SMG transmission that operates the clutch
electronically.

They were both a disaster. Traded in the first one because it had too
many software "bugs". Transmission would freeze up in neutral. The
famous "Red Cog of Death" would appear on the driver's display and your
only option was to call a flatbed. Traded that in for one that had a
later build date that reportedly had the bugs worked out. Nope. Car
was a spectacular performer, with 500 hp and handling that could safely
rocket you along at over 200 mph if you were so inclined (I wasn't),
but the damn thing wouldn't move half the time due to a software
malfunction.

That's when I traded it for the Porsche 911TT. Porsche remains
somewhat "old school" and other than those electronics that are
absolutely necessary, it was a driver's car. I like that.

Ironically though, it was Porsche, back in the late 80's, that developed
the first tire pressure monitoring system, based on speed sensors on all
four wheels.

Eisboch


I must have been thinking of some other over-priced replacement car part.
Although not oem you can get the whole kit for under $150.

http://www.automotix.net/bodyparts/2...-tpms409s.html

Car software problems. I have the two Lucernes, '07 and '08. On
occasion either one of them will lock the doors when you exit the
vehicle. When it first happened I talked with the local service manager
and they had never heard of it. Maybe a year later the same guy
confessed that they were now aware of the problem and the service guys
roll down a window just in case the car locks while they are working on
it. GM will not do anything about it.

It's a problem for me as we leave the keys in the car when they are
parked at home. I now carry a spare in my pocket.

Leave your keys in the car...while it's unlocked?
They'd love you around here...in no time at all your cars would be in a
container on its way to Russia or some 3rd world country.


Most of us do not live in a crime ridden cesspool.

You live in the burbs where the bad **** happens behind closed doors.

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A tire pressure gauge is a couple of bucks at Auto Zone.

Eisboch

Ever try to read tire pressure at 70 MPH? 8)



Good point.

I am not sure I am all for the gadgets and high tech, computer
controlled wizardry in cars.
KISS. I think about the '06 M5 I had (all two of them). They
probably represented the state-of-the-art in electronic, CPU
controlled
operation that year, from the engine management systems to the
electronically controlled SMG transmission that operates the clutch
electronically.

They were both a disaster. Traded in the first one because it had
too
many software "bugs". Transmission would freeze up in neutral. The
famous "Red Cog of Death" would appear on the driver's display and
your
only option was to call a flatbed. Traded that in for one that had a
later build date that reportedly had the bugs worked out. Nope.
Car
was a spectacular performer, with 500 hp and handling that could
safely
rocket you along at over 200 mph if you were so inclined (I wasn't),
but the damn thing wouldn't move half the time due to a software
malfunction.

That's when I traded it for the Porsche 911TT. Porsche remains
somewhat "old school" and other than those electronics that are
absolutely necessary, it was a driver's car. I like that.

Ironically though, it was Porsche, back in the late 80's, that
developed
the first tire pressure monitoring system, based on speed sensors on
all
four wheels.

Eisboch


I must have been thinking of some other over-priced replacement car
part.
Although not oem you can get the whole kit for under $150.

http://www.automotix.net/bodyparts/2...-tpms409s.html

Car software problems. I have the two Lucernes, '07 and '08. On
occasion either one of them will lock the doors when you exit the
vehicle. When it first happened I talked with the local service
manager
and they had never heard of it. Maybe a year later the same guy
confessed that they were now aware of the problem and the service guys
roll down a window just in case the car locks while they are working on
it. GM will not do anything about it.

It's a problem for me as we leave the keys in the car when they are
parked at home. I now carry a spare in my pocket.

Leave your keys in the car...while it's unlocked?
They'd love you around here...in no time at all your cars would be in a
container on its way to Russia or some 3rd world country.


Most of us do not live in a crime ridden cesspool.

You live in the burbs where the bad **** happens behind closed doors.

But still not a crime ridden cesspool. Where your car is ripped off, etc.

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A tire pressure gauge is a couple of bucks at Auto Zone.

Eisboch

Ever try to read tire pressure at 70 MPH? 8)



Good point.

I am not sure I am all for the gadgets and high tech, computer
controlled wizardry in cars.
KISS. I think about the '06 M5 I had (all two of them). They
probably represented the state-of-the-art in electronic, CPU
controlled
operation that year, from the engine management systems to the
electronically controlled SMG transmission that operates the clutch
electronically.

They were both a disaster. Traded in the first one because it had
too
many software "bugs". Transmission would freeze up in neutral. The
famous "Red Cog of Death" would appear on the driver's display and
your
only option was to call a flatbed. Traded that in for one that had a
later build date that reportedly had the bugs worked out. Nope.
Car
was a spectacular performer, with 500 hp and handling that could
safely
rocket you along at over 200 mph if you were so inclined (I wasn't),
but the damn thing wouldn't move half the time due to a software
malfunction.

That's when I traded it for the Porsche 911TT. Porsche remains
somewhat "old school" and other than those electronics that are
absolutely necessary, it was a driver's car. I like that.

Ironically though, it was Porsche, back in the late 80's, that
developed
the first tire pressure monitoring system, based on speed sensors on
all
four wheels.

Eisboch


I must have been thinking of some other over-priced replacement car
part.
Although not oem you can get the whole kit for under $150.

http://www.automotix.net/bodyparts/2...-tpms409s.html

Car software problems. I have the two Lucernes, '07 and '08. On
occasion either one of them will lock the doors when you exit the
vehicle. When it first happened I talked with the local service
manager
and they had never heard of it. Maybe a year later the same guy
confessed that they were now aware of the problem and the service guys
roll down a window just in case the car locks while they are working on
it. GM will not do anything about it.

It's a problem for me as we leave the keys in the car when they are
parked at home. I now carry a spare in my pocket.

Leave your keys in the car...while it's unlocked?
They'd love you around here...in no time at all your cars would be in a
container on its way to Russia or some 3rd world country.


Most of us do not live in a crime ridden cesspool.

You live in the burbs where the bad **** happens behind closed doors.

But still not a crime ridden cesspool. Where your car is ripped off, etc.

I'm sure if your community had anyone living there that was under 60
there might be some mischief happening.

I expect you're safe.

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A tire pressure gauge is a couple of bucks at Auto Zone.

Eisboch

Ever try to read tire pressure at 70 MPH? 8)



Good point.

I am not sure I am all for the gadgets and high tech, computer
controlled wizardry in cars.
KISS. I think about the '06 M5 I had (all two of them). They
probably represented the state-of-the-art in electronic, CPU
controlled
operation that year, from the engine management systems to the
electronically controlled SMG transmission that operates the clutch
electronically.

They were both a disaster. Traded in the first one because it had
too
many software "bugs". Transmission would freeze up in neutral. The
famous "Red Cog of Death" would appear on the driver's display and
your
only option was to call a flatbed. Traded that in for one that had
a
later build date that reportedly had the bugs worked out. Nope.
Car
was a spectacular performer, with 500 hp and handling that could
safely
rocket you along at over 200 mph if you were so inclined (I
wasn't),
but the damn thing wouldn't move half the time due to a software
malfunction.

That's when I traded it for the Porsche 911TT. Porsche remains
somewhat "old school" and other than those electronics that are
absolutely necessary, it was a driver's car. I like that.

Ironically though, it was Porsche, back in the late 80's, that
developed
the first tire pressure monitoring system, based on speed sensors on
all
four wheels.

Eisboch


I must have been thinking of some other over-priced replacement car
part.
Although not oem you can get the whole kit for under $150.

http://www.automotix.net/bodyparts/2...-tpms409s.html

Car software problems. I have the two Lucernes, '07 and '08. On
occasion either one of them will lock the doors when you exit the
vehicle. When it first happened I talked with the local service
manager
and they had never heard of it. Maybe a year later the same guy
confessed that they were now aware of the problem and the service
guys
roll down a window just in case the car locks while they are working
on
it. GM will not do anything about it.

It's a problem for me as we leave the keys in the car when they are
parked at home. I now carry a spare in my pocket.

Leave your keys in the car...while it's unlocked?
They'd love you around here...in no time at all your cars would be in
a
container on its way to Russia or some 3rd world country.


Most of us do not live in a crime ridden cesspool.

You live in the burbs where the bad **** happens behind closed doors.

But still not a crime ridden cesspool. Where your car is ripped off, etc.

I'm sure if your community had anyone living there that was under 60
there might be some mischief happening.

I expect you're safe.

My community has lots under 60. Mixed races. Blacks, Asians, India
indians, and lots of children. A very nice middle class community. Some
rich, some not so wealthy. Very little crime. Highly rated public schools.

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A tire pressure gauge is a couple of bucks at Auto Zone.

Eisboch

Ever try to read tire pressure at 70 MPH? 8)



Good point.

I am not sure I am all for the gadgets and high tech, computer
controlled wizardry in cars.
KISS. I think about the '06 M5 I had (all two of them). They
probably represented the state-of-the-art in electronic, CPU controlled
operation that year, from the engine management systems to the
electronically controlled SMG transmission that operates the clutch
electronically.

They were both a disaster. Traded in the first one because it had too
many software "bugs". Transmission would freeze up in neutral. The
famous "Red Cog of Death" would appear on the driver's display and
your only option was to call a flatbed. Traded that in for one that
had a later build date that reportedly had the bugs worked out.
Nope. Car was a spectacular performer, with 500 hp and handling that
could safely rocket you along at over 200 mph if you were so inclined
(I wasn't), but the damn thing wouldn't move half the time due to a
software malfunction.

That's when I traded it for the Porsche 911TT. Porsche remains
somewhat "old school" and other than those electronics that are
absolutely necessary, it was a driver's car. I like that.

Ironically though, it was Porsche, back in the late 80's, that
developed the first tire pressure monitoring system, based on speed
sensors on all four wheels.

Eisboch


I must have been thinking of some other over-priced replacement car
part. Although not oem you can get the whole kit for under $150.

http://www.automotix.net/bodyparts/2...-tpms409s.html

Car software problems. I have the two Lucernes, '07 and '08. On
occasion either one of them will lock the doors when you exit the
vehicle. When it first happened I talked with the local service manager
and they had never heard of it. Maybe a year later the same guy
confessed that they were now aware of the problem and the service guys
roll down a window just in case the car locks while they are working on
it. GM will not do anything about it.

It's a problem for me as we leave the keys in the car when they are
parked at home. I now carry a spare in my pocket.

Leave your keys in the car...while it's unlocked?
They'd love you around here...in no time at all your cars would be in a
container on its way to Russia or some 3rd world country.


Most of us do not live in a crime ridden cesspool.


Nor in the gay capital of the free world.
Still hanging around in those bath houses?

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A tire pressure gauge is a couple of bucks at Auto Zone.

Eisboch

Ever try to read tire pressure at 70 MPH? 8)



Good point.

I am not sure I am all for the gadgets and high tech, computer
controlled wizardry in cars.
KISS. I think about the '06 M5 I had (all two of them). They
probably represented the state-of-the-art in electronic, CPU
controlled operation that year, from the engine management systems to
the electronically controlled SMG transmission that operates the
clutch electronically.

They were both a disaster. Traded in the first one because it had
too many software "bugs". Transmission would freeze up in neutral.
The famous "Red Cog of Death" would appear on the driver's display
and your only option was to call a flatbed. Traded that in for one
that had a later build date that reportedly had the bugs worked out.
Nope. Car was a spectacular performer, with 500 hp and handling that
could safely rocket you along at over 200 mph if you were so inclined
(I wasn't), but the damn thing wouldn't move half the time due to a
software malfunction.

That's when I traded it for the Porsche 911TT. Porsche remains
somewhat "old school" and other than those electronics that are
absolutely necessary, it was a driver's car. I like that.

Ironically though, it was Porsche, back in the late 80's, that
developed the first tire pressure monitoring system, based on speed
sensors on all four wheels.

Eisboch


I must have been thinking of some other over-priced replacement car
part. Although not oem you can get the whole kit for under $150.

http://www.automotix.net/bodyparts/2...-tpms409s.html

Car software problems. I have the two Lucernes, '07 and '08. On
occasion either one of them will lock the doors when you exit the
vehicle. When it first happened I talked with the local service
manager and they had never heard of it. Maybe a year later the same
guy confessed that they were now aware of the problem and the service
guys roll down a window just in case the car locks while they are
working on it. GM will not do anything about it.

It's a problem for me as we leave the keys in the car when they are
parked at home. I now carry a spare in my pocket.

Leave your keys in the car...while it's unlocked?
They'd love you around here...in no time at all your cars would be in a
container on its way to Russia or some 3rd world country.


Most of us do not live in a crime ridden cesspool.


Nor in the gay capital of the free world.
Still hanging around in those bath houses?


You homophobic, besides stupid?

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A tire pressure gauge is a couple of bucks at Auto Zone.

Eisboch

Ever try to read tire pressure at 70 MPH? 8)



Good point.

I am not sure I am all for the gadgets and high tech, computer
controlled wizardry in cars.
KISS. I think about the '06 M5 I had (all two of them). They
probably represented the state-of-the-art in electronic, CPU
controlled operation that year, from the engine management systems to
the electronically controlled SMG transmission that operates the
clutch electronically.

They were both a disaster. Traded in the first one because it had
too many software "bugs". Transmission would freeze up in neutral.
The famous "Red Cog of Death" would appear on the driver's display
and your only option was to call a flatbed. Traded that in for one
that had a later build date that reportedly had the bugs worked out.
Nope. Car was a spectacular performer, with 500 hp and handling
that could safely rocket you along at over 200 mph if you were so
inclined (I wasn't), but the damn thing wouldn't move half the time
due to a software malfunction.

That's when I traded it for the Porsche 911TT. Porsche remains
somewhat "old school" and other than those electronics that are
absolutely necessary, it was a driver's car. I like that.

Ironically though, it was Porsche, back in the late 80's, that
developed the first tire pressure monitoring system, based on speed
sensors on all four wheels.

Eisboch


I must have been thinking of some other over-priced replacement car
part. Although not oem you can get the whole kit for under $150.

http://www.automotix.net/bodyparts/2...-tpms409s.html

Car software problems. I have the two Lucernes, '07 and '08. On
occasion either one of them will lock the doors when you exit the
vehicle. When it first happened I talked with the local service
manager and they had never heard of it. Maybe a year later the same
guy confessed that they were now aware of the problem and the service
guys roll down a window just in case the car locks while they are
working on it. GM will not do anything about it.

It's a problem for me as we leave the keys in the car when they are
parked at home. I now carry a spare in my pocket.

Leave your keys in the car...while it's unlocked?
They'd love you around here...in no time at all your cars would be in a
container on its way to Russia or some 3rd world country.


Most of us do not live in a crime ridden cesspool.


Nor in the gay capital of the free world.
Still hanging around in those bath houses?


You homophobic, besides stupid?

hee hee...guess that answers my question.
It's ok ...we're 'don't ask, don't tell' here.

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A tire pressure gauge is a couple of bucks at Auto Zone.

Eisboch
Ever try to read tire pressure at 70 MPH? 8)


Good point.

I am not sure I am all for the gadgets and high tech, computer
controlled wizardry in cars.
KISS. I think about the '06 M5 I had (all two of them). They
probably represented the state-of-the-art in electronic, CPU
controlled operation that year, from the engine management systems to
the electronically controlled SMG transmission that operates the
clutch electronically.

They were both a disaster. Traded in the first one because it had
too many software "bugs". Transmission would freeze up in neutral.
The famous "Red Cog of Death" would appear on the driver's display
and your only option was to call a flatbed. Traded that in for one
that had a later build date that reportedly had the bugs worked out.
Nope. Car was a spectacular performer, with 500 hp and handling
that could safely rocket you along at over 200 mph if you were so
inclined (I wasn't), but the damn thing wouldn't move half the time
due to a software malfunction.

That's when I traded it for the Porsche 911TT. Porsche remains
somewhat "old school" and other than those electronics that are
absolutely necessary, it was a driver's car. I like that.

Ironically though, it was Porsche, back in the late 80's, that
developed the first tire pressure monitoring system, based on speed
sensors on all four wheels.

Eisboch

I must have been thinking of some other over-priced replacement car
part. Although not oem you can get the whole kit for under $150.

http://www.automotix.net/bodyparts/2...-tpms409s.html

Car software problems. I have the two Lucernes, '07 and '08. On
occasion either one of them will lock the doors when you exit the
vehicle. When it first happened I talked with the local service
manager and they had never heard of it. Maybe a year later the same
guy confessed that they were now aware of the problem and the service
guys roll down a window just in case the car locks while they are
working on it. GM will not do anything about it.

It's a problem for me as we leave the keys in the car when they are
parked at home. I now carry a spare in my pocket.
Leave your keys in the car...while it's unlocked?
They'd love you around here...in no time at all your cars would be in a
container on its way to Russia or some 3rd world country.

Most of us do not live in a crime ridden cesspool.

Nor in the gay capital of the free world.
Still hanging around in those bath houses?

You homophobic, besides stupid?

hee hee...guess that answers my question.
It's ok ...we're 'don't ask, don't tell' here.



Bilious's retirement job is similar to herring's: picking up soap in the
shower.

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A tire pressure gauge is a couple of bucks at Auto Zone.

Eisboch
Ever try to read tire pressure at 70 MPH? 8)


Good point.

I am not sure I am all for the gadgets and high tech, computer
controlled wizardry in cars.
KISS. I think about the '06 M5 I had (all two of them). They
probably represented the state-of-the-art in electronic, CPU
controlled operation that year, from the engine management systems
to the electronically controlled SMG transmission that operates the
clutch electronically.

They were both a disaster. Traded in the first one because it had
too many software "bugs". Transmission would freeze up in neutral.
The famous "Red Cog of Death" would appear on the driver's display
and your only option was to call a flatbed. Traded that in for
one that had a later build date that reportedly had the bugs worked
out. Nope. Car was a spectacular performer, with 500 hp and
handling that could safely rocket you along at over 200 mph if you
were so inclined (I wasn't), but the damn thing wouldn't move half
the time due to a software malfunction.

That's when I traded it for the Porsche 911TT. Porsche remains
somewhat "old school" and other than those electronics that are
absolutely necessary, it was a driver's car. I like that.

Ironically though, it was Porsche, back in the late 80's, that
developed the first tire pressure monitoring system, based on speed
sensors on all four wheels.

Eisboch

I must have been thinking of some other over-priced replacement car
part. Although not oem you can get the whole kit for under $150.

http://www.automotix.net/bodyparts/2...-tpms409s.html

Car software problems. I have the two Lucernes, '07 and '08. On
occasion either one of them will lock the doors when you exit the
vehicle. When it first happened I talked with the local service
manager and they had never heard of it. Maybe a year later the same
guy confessed that they were now aware of the problem and the
service guys roll down a window just in case the car locks while
they are working on it. GM will not do anything about it.

It's a problem for me as we leave the keys in the car when they are
parked at home. I now carry a spare in my pocket.
Leave your keys in the car...while it's unlocked?
They'd love you around here...in no time at all your cars would be in
a container on its way to Russia or some 3rd world country.

Most of us do not live in a crime ridden cesspool.

Nor in the gay capital of the free world.
Still hanging around in those bath houses?

You homophobic, besides stupid?

hee hee...guess that answers my question.
It's ok ...we're 'don't ask, don't tell' here.

Bilious's retirement job is similar to herring's: picking up soap in the
shower.

Both homophobic racists. Since I have had the same wife for 41 years, and
Harry seems to have had more than one, and the present one keeps him in the
basement. Maybe he is gay. I have gay friends. big deal. Most do not
like the flaming, in your face gays of Polk Gulch either. When I worked in
SF while going to university, two of the IT operations managers were gay.
Big deal. Their choice. Since you are consistantly wrong about politics,
and Don's son is the alcoholic, not me. Stands to reason you are wrong
about me most of the time.