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John...same as yesterday. July 3rd 09 12:50 AM

Nitrogen in tires
 
The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30.
Is it worth it? Thoughts?
--
John H

"A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul."
-- George Bernard Shaw

Wizard of Woodstock July 3rd 09 01:23 AM

Nitrogen in tires
 
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:50:17 -0400, John...same as yesterday.
wrote:

The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30.
Is it worth it? Thoughts?


Well, consider this - regular old air is 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, 1%
other gases and water vapor.

The advantage of nitrogen is that it won't diffuse through the rubber
because the molecule is bigger.

Personally, air is cheaper and mostly nitrogen anyway.

John...same as yesterday. July 3rd 09 01:44 AM

Nitrogen in tires
 
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:23:49 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:50:17 -0400, John...same as yesterday.
wrote:

The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30.
Is it worth it? Thoughts?


Well, consider this - regular old air is 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, 1%
other gases and water vapor.

The advantage of nitrogen is that it won't diffuse through the rubber
because the molecule is bigger.

Personally, air is cheaper and mostly nitrogen anyway.


Hadn't looked at it that way. What I'd be doing is paying $30 for a
change of 22%. Hell, I'll probably be paying a lot more for 'change'
when my next income tax bill comes in.
--
John H

"A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul."
-- George Bernard Shaw

Keith nuttle July 3rd 09 01:44 AM

Nitrogen in tires
 
John...same as yesterday. wrote:
The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30.
Is it worth it? Thoughts?
--
John H

"A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul."
-- George Bernard Shaw


Your tires already have 78.0% nitrogen 20.9% oxygen and some trace gases
in them. How much are you going to have to pay to protect the inside of
the tire from the oxygen. How do they plan to protect the outside of
your tire from the effects of oxygen?

John...same as yesterday. July 3rd 09 01:52 AM

Nitrogen in tires
 
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:44:13 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote:

John...same as yesterday. wrote:
The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30.
Is it worth it? Thoughts?
--
John H

"A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul."
-- George Bernard Shaw


Your tires already have 78.0% nitrogen 20.9% oxygen and some trace gases
in them. How much are you going to have to pay to protect the inside of
the tire from the oxygen. How do they plan to protect the outside of
your tire from the effects of oxygen?


Good points all.

This group is definitely helping me with my senility problem.
--
John H

"A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul."
-- George Bernard Shaw

D K[_15_] July 3rd 09 02:27 AM

Nitrogen in tires
 
John...same as yesterday. wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:23:49 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote:

On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:50:17 -0400, John...same as yesterday.
wrote:

The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30.
Is it worth it? Thoughts?

Well, consider this - regular old air is 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, 1%
other gases and water vapor.

The advantage of nitrogen is that it won't diffuse through the rubber
because the molecule is bigger.

Personally, air is cheaper and mostly nitrogen anyway.


Hadn't looked at it that way. What I'd be doing is paying $30 for a
change of 22%. Hell, I'll probably be paying a lot more for 'change'
when my next income tax bill comes in.
--
John H


That would be true if they could remove all of the air from your tires
first. Even if they used a vacuum, it would never come close to 100%.

Jack[_3_] July 3rd 09 02:58 AM

Nitrogen in tires
 
On Jul 2, 8:44*pm, John...same as yesterday.
wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:23:49 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock

wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:50:17 -0400, John...same as yesterday.
wrote:


The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30.
Is it worth it? Thoughts?


Well, consider this - regular old air is 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, 1%
other gases and water vapor.


The advantage of nitrogen is that it won't diffuse through the rubber
because the molecule is bigger.


Personally, air is cheaper and mostly nitrogen anyway.


Hadn't looked at it that way. What I'd be doing is paying $30 for a
change of 22%. Hell, I'll probably be paying a lot more for 'change'
when my next income tax bill comes in.
--


It does help to lighten your car to get better gas mileage.

Your billfold will be lighter.

:-)



Frogwatch July 3rd 09 03:16 AM

Nitrogen in tires
 
On Jul 2, 9:58*pm, Jack wrote:
On Jul 2, 8:44*pm, John...same as yesterday.
wrote:



On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:23:49 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock


wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:50:17 -0400, John...same as yesterday.
wrote:


The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30.
Is it worth it? Thoughts?


Well, consider this - regular old air is 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, 1%
other gases and water vapor.


The advantage of nitrogen is that it won't diffuse through the rubber
because the molecule is bigger.


Personally, air is cheaper and mostly nitrogen anyway.


Hadn't looked at it that way. What I'd be doing is paying $30 for a
change of 22%. Hell, I'll probably be paying a lot more for 'change'
when my next income tax bill comes in.
--


It does help to lighten your car to get better gas mileage.

Your billfold will be lighter.

*:-)


I always thought this nitrogen in tires thing was a scam too. I
understood using it in paintball guns but tires?

Tim July 3rd 09 03:21 AM

Nitrogen in tires
 
On Jul 2, 7:23*pm, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:50:17 -0400, John...same as yesterday.

wrote:
The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30.
Is it worth it? Thoughts?


Well, consider this - regular old air is 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, 1%
other gases and water vapor.

The advantage of nitrogen is that it won't diffuse through the rubber
because the molecule is bigger.

Personally, air is cheaper and mostly nitrogen anyway.


This reminds me of the stories I've *heard* about the gullible going
into a car dealership in the spring to have the "winter" air removed,
and have "summer " air installed in all tires event he spare...


snake oil.

Now, John, if you really want to have something spectacular, take it
to a farm tire dealer and have them filled with Calcium Chloride.

In their tractor tires, the farmers get better traction due to the
increased weight.

Tim July 3rd 09 03:21 AM

Nitrogen in tires
 
On Jul 2, 8:58*pm, Jack wrote:
On Jul 2, 8:44*pm, John...same as yesterday.
wrote:



On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:23:49 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock


wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:50:17 -0400, John...same as yesterday.
wrote:


The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30.
Is it worth it? Thoughts?


Well, consider this - regular old air is 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, 1%
other gases and water vapor.


The advantage of nitrogen is that it won't diffuse through the rubber
because the molecule is bigger.


Personally, air is cheaper and mostly nitrogen anyway.


Hadn't looked at it that way. What I'd be doing is paying $30 for a
change of 22%. Hell, I'll probably be paying a lot more for 'change'
when my next income tax bill comes in.
--


It does help to lighten your car to get better gas mileage.

Your billfold will be lighter.

*:-)


In that case fill 'em with helium!


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