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Nitrogen in tires
The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30.
Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H "A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw |
Nitrogen in tires
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:50:17 -0400, John...same as yesterday.
wrote: The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? Well, consider this - regular old air is 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, 1% other gases and water vapor. The advantage of nitrogen is that it won't diffuse through the rubber because the molecule is bigger. Personally, air is cheaper and mostly nitrogen anyway. |
Nitrogen in tires
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:23:49 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock
wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:50:17 -0400, John...same as yesterday. wrote: The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? Well, consider this - regular old air is 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, 1% other gases and water vapor. The advantage of nitrogen is that it won't diffuse through the rubber because the molecule is bigger. Personally, air is cheaper and mostly nitrogen anyway. Hadn't looked at it that way. What I'd be doing is paying $30 for a change of 22%. Hell, I'll probably be paying a lot more for 'change' when my next income tax bill comes in. -- John H "A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw |
Nitrogen in tires
John...same as yesterday. wrote:
The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H "A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw Your tires already have 78.0% nitrogen 20.9% oxygen and some trace gases in them. How much are you going to have to pay to protect the inside of the tire from the oxygen. How do they plan to protect the outside of your tire from the effects of oxygen? |
Nitrogen in tires
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:44:13 -0400, Keith Nuttle
wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H "A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw Your tires already have 78.0% nitrogen 20.9% oxygen and some trace gases in them. How much are you going to have to pay to protect the inside of the tire from the oxygen. How do they plan to protect the outside of your tire from the effects of oxygen? Good points all. This group is definitely helping me with my senility problem. -- John H "A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw |
Nitrogen in tires
John...same as yesterday. wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:23:49 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:50:17 -0400, John...same as yesterday. wrote: The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? Well, consider this - regular old air is 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, 1% other gases and water vapor. The advantage of nitrogen is that it won't diffuse through the rubber because the molecule is bigger. Personally, air is cheaper and mostly nitrogen anyway. Hadn't looked at it that way. What I'd be doing is paying $30 for a change of 22%. Hell, I'll probably be paying a lot more for 'change' when my next income tax bill comes in. -- John H That would be true if they could remove all of the air from your tires first. Even if they used a vacuum, it would never come close to 100%. |
Nitrogen in tires
On Jul 2, 8:44*pm, John...same as yesterday.
wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:23:49 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:50:17 -0400, John...same as yesterday. wrote: The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? Well, consider this - regular old air is 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, 1% other gases and water vapor. The advantage of nitrogen is that it won't diffuse through the rubber because the molecule is bigger. Personally, air is cheaper and mostly nitrogen anyway. Hadn't looked at it that way. What I'd be doing is paying $30 for a change of 22%. Hell, I'll probably be paying a lot more for 'change' when my next income tax bill comes in. -- It does help to lighten your car to get better gas mileage. Your billfold will be lighter. :-) |
Nitrogen in tires
On Jul 2, 9:58*pm, Jack wrote:
On Jul 2, 8:44*pm, John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:23:49 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:50:17 -0400, John...same as yesterday. wrote: The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? Well, consider this - regular old air is 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, 1% other gases and water vapor. The advantage of nitrogen is that it won't diffuse through the rubber because the molecule is bigger. Personally, air is cheaper and mostly nitrogen anyway. Hadn't looked at it that way. What I'd be doing is paying $30 for a change of 22%. Hell, I'll probably be paying a lot more for 'change' when my next income tax bill comes in. -- It does help to lighten your car to get better gas mileage. Your billfold will be lighter. *:-) I always thought this nitrogen in tires thing was a scam too. I understood using it in paintball guns but tires? |
Nitrogen in tires
On Jul 2, 7:23*pm, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:50:17 -0400, John...same as yesterday. wrote: The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? Well, consider this - regular old air is 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, 1% other gases and water vapor. The advantage of nitrogen is that it won't diffuse through the rubber because the molecule is bigger. Personally, air is cheaper and mostly nitrogen anyway. This reminds me of the stories I've *heard* about the gullible going into a car dealership in the spring to have the "winter" air removed, and have "summer " air installed in all tires event he spare... snake oil. Now, John, if you really want to have something spectacular, take it to a farm tire dealer and have them filled with Calcium Chloride. In their tractor tires, the farmers get better traction due to the increased weight. |
Nitrogen in tires
On Jul 2, 8:58*pm, Jack wrote:
On Jul 2, 8:44*pm, John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:23:49 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:50:17 -0400, John...same as yesterday. wrote: The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? Well, consider this - regular old air is 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, 1% other gases and water vapor. The advantage of nitrogen is that it won't diffuse through the rubber because the molecule is bigger. Personally, air is cheaper and mostly nitrogen anyway. Hadn't looked at it that way. What I'd be doing is paying $30 for a change of 22%. Hell, I'll probably be paying a lot more for 'change' when my next income tax bill comes in. -- It does help to lighten your car to get better gas mileage. Your billfold will be lighter. *:-) In that case fill 'em with helium! |
Nitrogen in tires
"John...same as yesterday." wrote in message ... The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H The COSTCO store here filled your tires for free. Thay claim you don't lose air pressure during climate changes. (fall-winter etc) |
Nitrogen in tires
On Jul 2, 9:28*pm, "Don White" wrote:
"John...same as yesterday." wrote in messagenews:trhq45h4k7p75tnbfo4fhg3u2catuj9fkc@4ax .com... The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H The COSTCO store here filled your tires for free. Thay claim you don't lose air pressure during climate changes. (fall-winter etc) Well Don, that's what they may claim. But around here, in the late fall, it seems that when a cold frost hits over night, you can pretty well expect tires to lose about 10# of pressure a piece. |
Nitrogen in tires
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:35:44 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: On Jul 2, 9:28*pm, "Don White" wrote: "John...same as yesterday." wrote in messagenews:trhq45h4k7p75tnbfo4fhg3u2catuj9fkc@4ax .com... The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H The COSTCO store here filled your tires for free. Thay claim you don't lose air pressure during climate changes. (fall-winter etc) Well Don, that's what they may claim. But around here, in the late fall, it seems that when a cold frost hits over night, you can pretty well expect tires to lose about 10# of pressure a piece. I don't know about ten pounds, but certainly three or four. |
Nitrogen in tires
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 22:20:41 -0400, Gene
wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:50:17 -0400, John...same as yesterday. wrote: The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? It makes some sense if you have aluminum wheels. Otherwise, it just isn't worth it....... Didn't make a damn bit of difference with the aluminum trailer rims and tires. The beads still leak after a couple of dunkings in salt water. |
Nitrogen in tires
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:35:44 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Jul 2, 9:28 pm, "Don White" wrote: "John...same as yesterday." wrote in messagenews:trhq45h4k7p75tnbfo4fhg3u2catuj9fkc@4ax .com... The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H The COSTCO store here filled your tires for free. Thay claim you don't lose air pressure during climate changes. (fall-winter etc) Well Don, that's what they may claim. But around here, in the late fall, it seems that when a cold frost hits over night, you can pretty well expect tires to lose about 10# of pressure a piece. I don't know about ten pounds, but certainly three or four. Don't you have those "never lose pressure" etec tires? |
Nitrogen in tires
John...same as yesterday. wrote:
The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? No. All it does is get you to come back to the dealer to get your tires checked and refilled with nitrogen and for them to talk you into getting an oil and lube jobs and tire rotation. |
Nitrogen in tires
John...same as yesterday. wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:44:13 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H "A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw Your tires already have 78.0% nitrogen 20.9% oxygen and some trace gases in them. How much are you going to have to pay to protect the inside of the tire from the oxygen. How do they plan to protect the outside of your tire from the effects of oxygen? Good points all. This group is definitely helping me with my senility problem. Adm Arliegh Burke has a nice facility up in McLean for guys like you. If you get into the alzheimer's ward they will give you the code to open the doors but, you will forget it 10 seconds later. |
Nitrogen in tires
On Jul 2, 9:42*pm, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:35:44 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Jul 2, 9:28*pm, "Don White" wrote: "John...same as yesterday." wrote in messagenews:trhq45h4k7p75tnbfo4fhg3u2catuj9fkc@4ax .com... The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30.. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H The COSTCO store here filled your tires for free. Thay claim you don't lose air pressure during climate changes. (fall-winter etc) Well Don, that's what they may claim. But around here, in the late fall, it seems that when a cold frost hits over night, you can pretty well expect tires to lose about 10# of pressure a piece. I don't know about ten pounds, but certainly three or four. Around here, i can be 6-12. Or in my experience it has been. |
Nitrogen in tires
HK wrote:
Wizard of Woodstock wrote: On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:35:44 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Jul 2, 9:28 pm, "Don White" wrote: "John...same as yesterday." wrote in messagenews:trhq45h4k7p75tnbfo4fhg3u2catuj9fkc@4ax .com... The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H The COSTCO store here filled your tires for free. Thay claim you don't lose air pressure during climate changes. (fall-winter etc) Well Don, that's what they may claim. But around here, in the late fall, it seems that when a cold frost hits over night, you can pretty well expect tires to lose about 10# of pressure a piece. I don't know about ten pounds, but certainly three or four. Don't you have those "never lose pressure" etec tires? Wow, a post by Harry, who'd a thought? Trying my new digs, gonna' lose Google for good.. After all, it's the Anti-Christ according to Tom;) Anyway, good seeing you again Harry, PLONK. Buh, bye... |
Nitrogen in tires
"John...same as yesterday." wrote in message ... On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:23:49 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:50:17 -0400, John...same as yesterday. wrote: The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? Well, consider this - regular old air is 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, 1% other gases and water vapor. The advantage of nitrogen is that it won't diffuse through the rubber because the molecule is bigger. Personally, air is cheaper and mostly nitrogen anyway. Hadn't looked at it that way. What I'd be doing is paying $30 for a change of 22%. Hell, I'll probably be paying a lot more for 'change' when my next income tax bill comes in. -- John H "A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw Costco does it for free. And they just had $70 on 4 michelins. |
Nitrogen in tires
"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message ... On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:50:17 -0400, John...same as yesterday. wrote: The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? Well, consider this - regular old air is 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, 1% other gases and water vapor. The advantage of nitrogen is that it won't diffuse through the rubber because the molecule is bigger. Although true, the relative size difference means diddily squat. I get a big kick out of the claims. The reason that nitrogen filled tires stay inflated better is because after spending 30 to 50 bucks to have it done, people check the inflation more often. It's nothing but a marketing scam. Also, tires age, rot and crack from the outside, not the inside. Ridding the internal gas of reactive components to sunlight and weather doesn't help the outside surfaces much. |
Nitrogen in tires
"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message ... On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:50:17 -0400, John...same as yesterday. wrote: The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? Well, consider this - regular old air is 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, 1% other gases and water vapor. The advantage of nitrogen is that it won't diffuse through the rubber because the molecule is bigger. Although true, the relative size difference means diddily squat. I get a big kick out of the claims. The reason that nitrogen filled tires stay inflated better is because after spending 30 to 50 bucks to have it done, people check the inflation more often. It's nothing but a marketing scam. Also, tires age, rot and crack from the outside, not the inside. Ridding the internal gas of reactive components to sunlight and weather doesn't help the outside surfaces much. NASCAR uses Nitrogen for the reason it is dry. No water vapor to change the pressure drastically with heat. It may lose less in a passenger / truck tire, but not enough difference to matter. I check my truck tires regularly and still have to add once in awhile. And Costco used N2. |
Nitrogen in tires
JustWait wrote:
HK wrote: Wizard of Woodstock wrote: On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:35:44 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Jul 2, 9:28 pm, "Don White" wrote: "John...same as yesterday." wrote in messagenews:trhq45h4k7p75tnbfo4fhg3u2catuj9fkc@4ax .com... The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H The COSTCO store here filled your tires for free. Thay claim you don't lose air pressure during climate changes. (fall-winter etc) Well Don, that's what they may claim. But around here, in the late fall, it seems that when a cold frost hits over night, you can pretty well expect tires to lose about 10# of pressure a piece. I don't know about ten pounds, but certainly three or four. Don't you have those "never lose pressure" etec tires? Wow, a post by Harry, who'd a thought? Trying my new digs, gonna' lose Google for good.. After all, it's the Anti-Christ according to Tom;) Anyway, good seeing you again Harry, PLONK. Buh, bye... What made you choose eternal september? |
Nitrogen in tires
On Jul 2, 8:58*pm, Jack wrote:
On Jul 2, 8:44*pm, John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:23:49 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:50:17 -0400, John...same as yesterday. wrote: The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? Well, consider this - regular old air is 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, 1% other gases and water vapor. The advantage of nitrogen is that it won't diffuse through the rubber because the molecule is bigger. Personally, air is cheaper and mostly nitrogen anyway. Hadn't looked at it that way. What I'd be doing is paying $30 for a change of 22%. Hell, I'll probably be paying a lot more for 'change' when my next income tax bill comes in. -- It does help to lighten your car to get better gas mileage. Your billfold will be lighter. *:-) hmmmm, now with that thought. How do you *KNOW* they actually put nitrogen in them any way??? Could have just put the compressor (if any at all)) to the tires and took your loot! |
Nitrogen in tires
Tim wrote:
On Jul 2, 9:42 pm, Wizard of Woodstock wrote: On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:35:44 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Jul 2, 9:28 pm, "Don White" wrote: "John...same as yesterday." wrote in messagenews:trhq45h4k7p75tnbfo4fhg3u2catuj9fkc@4ax .com... The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H The COSTCO store here filled your tires for free. Thay claim you don't lose air pressure during climate changes. (fall-winter etc) Well Don, that's what they may claim. But around here, in the late fall, it seems that when a cold frost hits over night, you can pretty well expect tires to lose about 10# of pressure a piece. I don't know about ten pounds, but certainly three or four. Around here, i can be 6-12. Or in my experience it has been. Don't you have a set of down-filled jackets for those tires? :) |
Nitrogen in tires
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:35:44 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Jul 2, 9:28 pm, "Don White" wrote: "John...same as yesterday." wrote in messagenews:trhq45h4k7p75tnbfo4fhg3u2catuj9fkc@4ax .com... The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H The COSTCO store here filled your tires for free. Thay claim you don't lose air pressure during climate changes. (fall-winter etc) Well Don, that's what they may claim. But around here, in the late fall, it seems that when a cold frost hits over night, you can pretty well expect tires to lose about 10# of pressure a piece. I don't know about ten pounds, but certainly three or four. Charles's law associated with Boyle's law |
Nitrogen in tires
J i m wrote:
JustWait wrote: HK wrote: Wizard of Woodstock wrote: On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:35:44 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Jul 2, 9:28 pm, "Don White" wrote: "John...same as yesterday." wrote in messagenews:trhq45h4k7p75tnbfo4fhg3u2catuj9fkc@4ax .com... The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H The COSTCO store here filled your tires for free. Thay claim you don't lose air pressure during climate changes. (fall-winter etc) Well Don, that's what they may claim. But around here, in the late fall, it seems that when a cold frost hits over night, you can pretty well expect tires to lose about 10# of pressure a piece. I don't know about ten pounds, but certainly three or four. Don't you have those "never lose pressure" etec tires? Wow, a post by Harry, who'd a thought? Trying my new digs, gonna' lose Google for good.. After all, it's the Anti-Christ according to Tom;) Anyway, good seeing you again Harry, PLONK. Buh, bye... What made you choose eternal september? It's free... |
Nitrogen in tires
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:35:44 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: Well Don, that's what they may claim. But around here, in the late fall, it seems that when a cold frost hits over night, you can pretty well expect tires to lose about 10# of pressure a piece. If the temperature drops the pressure will to an equal degree. Sprint car wheels have a valve that releases air as the tires heat up, to keep the pressure constant. When you park it, things cool, and all the tires go flat. Casady |
Nitrogen in tires
On Jul 2, 10:28*pm, "Don White" wrote:
"John...same as yesterday." wrote in messagenews:trhq45h4k7p75tnbfo4fhg3u2catuj9fkc@4ax .com... The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H The COSTCO store here filled your tires for free. Thay claim you don't lose air pressure during climate changes. (fall-winter etc) If you believe that, you're just plain stupid. |
Nitrogen in tires
On Jul 2, 10:43*pm, HK wrote:
Wizard of Woodstock wrote: On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:35:44 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Jul 2, 9:28 pm, "Don White" wrote: "John...same as yesterday." wrote in messagenews:trhq45h4k7p75tnbfo4fhg3u2catuj9fkc@4ax .com... The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30.. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H The COSTCO store here filled your tires for free. Thay claim you don't lose air pressure during climate changes. (fall-winter etc) Well Don, that's what they may claim. But around here, in the late fall, it seems that when a cold frost hits over night, you can pretty well expect tires to lose about 10# of pressure a piece. I don't know about ten pounds, but certainly three or four. Don't you have those "never lose pressure" etec tires?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Harry's vying for Don as the dumbest poster ever. |
Nitrogen in tires
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 23:28:25 -0300, "Don White"
wrote: "John...same as yesterday." wrote in message .. . The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H The COSTCO store here filled your tires for free. Thay claim you don't lose air pressure during climate changes. (fall-winter etc) They didn't fill my tires. Don't you be making up lies about my tires. Enough is enough. Talk about owls down by the stream or something. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until its free!" --Anonymous |
Nitrogen in tires
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:02:49 -0400, BAR wrote:
John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:44:13 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H "A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw Your tires already have 78.0% nitrogen 20.9% oxygen and some trace gases in them. How much are you going to have to pay to protect the inside of the tire from the oxygen. How do they plan to protect the outside of your tire from the effects of oxygen? Good points all. This group is definitely helping me with my senility problem. Adm Arliegh Burke has a nice facility up in McLean for guys like you. If you get into the alzheimer's ward they will give you the code to open the doors but, you will forget it 10 seconds later. Hey! Be nice. I've not been able to golf for almost four weeks 'cause of the cracked rib. Wednesday I went out and played 18 here at Greendale. I waited long enough. Nothing hurt, so I guess I'm good to go. I bought a 7-wood, used, from Callaway. Nice club. I took the 4=iron out of the bag. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until its free!" --Anonymous |
Nitrogen in tires
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 21:42:39 -0700, "Calif Bill"
wrote: "John...same as yesterday." wrote in message .. . On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:23:49 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:50:17 -0400, John...same as yesterday. wrote: The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? Well, consider this - regular old air is 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, 1% other gases and water vapor. The advantage of nitrogen is that it won't diffuse through the rubber because the molecule is bigger. Personally, air is cheaper and mostly nitrogen anyway. Hadn't looked at it that way. What I'd be doing is paying $30 for a change of 22%. Hell, I'll probably be paying a lot more for 'change' when my next income tax bill comes in. -- John H "A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw Costco does it for free. And they just had $70 on 4 michelins. Yeah, but they've got the best pizza and Metamucil in town, including Chicago. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until its free!" --Anonymous |
Nitrogen in tires
John...same as yesterday. wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:02:49 -0400, BAR wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:44:13 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H "A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw Your tires already have 78.0% nitrogen 20.9% oxygen and some trace gases in them. How much are you going to have to pay to protect the inside of the tire from the oxygen. How do they plan to protect the outside of your tire from the effects of oxygen? Good points all. This group is definitely helping me with my senility problem. Adm Arliegh Burke has a nice facility up in McLean for guys like you. If you get into the alzheimer's ward they will give you the code to open the doors but, you will forget it 10 seconds later. Hey! Be nice. I've not been able to golf for almost four weeks 'cause of the cracked rib. Wednesday I went out and played 18 here at Greendale. I waited long enough. Nothing hurt, so I guess I'm good to go. I bought a 7-wood, used, from Callaway. Nice club. I took the 4=iron out of the bag. I was up at the US Open a week or two ago. I've got that checked off the list and I never have to do it again. Getting ready to do the 10 day drive from Denver to Minneapolis with the wife and kids. Leaving for the airport in about an hour. |
Nitrogen in tires
BAR wrote:
John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:02:49 -0400, BAR wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:44:13 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H "A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw Your tires already have 78.0% nitrogen 20.9% oxygen and some trace gases in them. How much are you going to have to pay to protect the inside of the tire from the oxygen. How do they plan to protect the outside of your tire from the effects of oxygen? Good points all. This group is definitely helping me with my senility problem. Adm Arliegh Burke has a nice facility up in McLean for guys like you. If you get into the alzheimer's ward they will give you the code to open the doors but, you will forget it 10 seconds later. Hey! Be nice. I've not been able to golf for almost four weeks 'cause of the cracked rib. Wednesday I went out and played 18 here at Greendale. I waited long enough. Nothing hurt, so I guess I'm good to go. I bought a 7-wood, used, from Callaway. Nice club. I took the 4=iron out of the bag. I was up at the US Open a week or two ago. I've got that checked off the list and I never have to do it again. Getting ready to do the 10 day drive from Denver to Minneapolis with the wife and kids. Leaving for the airport in about an hour. Gee...how'd you do at the U.S. Open? Did you make the leader board? Denver to Minneapolis? Are you attending a congrats party for Senator Franken or a burial party for ex-Senator Coleman? |
Nitrogen in tires
On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 03:25:55 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote: On Jul 2, 8:58*pm, Jack wrote: On Jul 2, 8:44*pm, John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:23:49 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:50:17 -0400, John...same as yesterday. wrote: The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? Well, consider this - regular old air is 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, 1% other gases and water vapor. The advantage of nitrogen is that it won't diffuse through the rubber because the molecule is bigger. Personally, air is cheaper and mostly nitrogen anyway. Hadn't looked at it that way. What I'd be doing is paying $30 for a change of 22%. Hell, I'll probably be paying a lot more for 'change' when my next income tax bill comes in. -- It does help to lighten your car to get better gas mileage. Your billfold will be lighter. *:-) hmmmm, now with that thought. How do you *KNOW* they actually put nitrogen in them any way??? Could have just put the compressor (if any at all)) to the tires and took your loot! Maybe they spray some green stuff around the valve stem as proof? -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until its free!" --Anonymous |
Nitrogen in tires
On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 05:32:07 -0700 (PDT), Loogypicker
wrote: On Jul 2, 10:43*pm, HK wrote: Wizard of Woodstock wrote: On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:35:44 -0700 (PDT), Tim wrote: On Jul 2, 9:28 pm, "Don White" wrote: "John...same as yesterday." wrote in messagenews:trhq45h4k7p75tnbfo4fhg3u2catuj9fkc@4ax .com... The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H The COSTCO store here filled your tires for free. Thay claim you don't lose air pressure during climate changes. (fall-winter etc) Well Don, that's what they may claim. But around here, in the late fall, it seems that when a cold frost hits over night, you can pretty well expect tires to lose about 10# of pressure a piece. I don't know about ten pounds, but certainly three or four. Don't you have those "never lose pressure" etec tires?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Harry's vying for Don as the dumbest poster ever. Naw, he's just pullin' a chain. But, Tom's got more sense than to bite on it. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until its free!" --Anonymous |
Nitrogen in tires
On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:07:33 -0400, BAR wrote:
John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:02:49 -0400, BAR wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:44:13 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H "A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw Your tires already have 78.0% nitrogen 20.9% oxygen and some trace gases in them. How much are you going to have to pay to protect the inside of the tire from the oxygen. How do they plan to protect the outside of your tire from the effects of oxygen? Good points all. This group is definitely helping me with my senility problem. Adm Arliegh Burke has a nice facility up in McLean for guys like you. If you get into the alzheimer's ward they will give you the code to open the doors but, you will forget it 10 seconds later. Hey! Be nice. I've not been able to golf for almost four weeks 'cause of the cracked rib. Wednesday I went out and played 18 here at Greendale. I waited long enough. Nothing hurt, so I guess I'm good to go. I bought a 7-wood, used, from Callaway. Nice club. I took the 4=iron out of the bag. I was up at the US Open a week or two ago. I've got that checked off the list and I never have to do it again. Getting ready to do the 10 day drive from Denver to Minneapolis with the wife and kids. Leaving for the airport in about an hour. Ah, Minneapolis, my birthplace. As you drive by, see if the flag is flying upside down over the capitol since Franken is now a Senator. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until its free!" --Anonymous |
Nitrogen in tires
John...same as yesterday. wrote:
On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:07:33 -0400, BAR wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:02:49 -0400, BAR wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:44:13 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H "A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw Your tires already have 78.0% nitrogen 20.9% oxygen and some trace gases in them. How much are you going to have to pay to protect the inside of the tire from the oxygen. How do they plan to protect the outside of your tire from the effects of oxygen? Good points all. This group is definitely helping me with my senility problem. Adm Arliegh Burke has a nice facility up in McLean for guys like you. If you get into the alzheimer's ward they will give you the code to open the doors but, you will forget it 10 seconds later. Hey! Be nice. I've not been able to golf for almost four weeks 'cause of the cracked rib. Wednesday I went out and played 18 here at Greendale. I waited long enough. Nothing hurt, so I guess I'm good to go. I bought a 7-wood, used, from Callaway. Nice club. I took the 4=iron out of the bag. I was up at the US Open a week or two ago. I've got that checked off the list and I never have to do it again. Getting ready to do the 10 day drive from Denver to Minneapolis with the wife and kids. Leaving for the airport in about an hour. Ah, Minneapolis, my birthplace. As you drive by, see if the flag is flying upside down over the capitol since Franken is now a Senator. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until its free!" --Anonymous What's so cool is I know WAFA is gonna' **** at this post and I won't even see it.. Already the group is much easier and nicer to read with he and Just a Piece of **** plonked.. Rowdy Mouse Racing, 6th place in the Womens Class! |
Nitrogen in tires
JustWait wrote:
John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:07:33 -0400, BAR wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:02:49 -0400, BAR wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:44:13 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H "A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw Your tires already have 78.0% nitrogen 20.9% oxygen and some trace gases in them. How much are you going to have to pay to protect the inside of the tire from the oxygen. How do they plan to protect the outside of your tire from the effects of oxygen? Good points all. This group is definitely helping me with my senility problem. Adm Arliegh Burke has a nice facility up in McLean for guys like you. If you get into the alzheimer's ward they will give you the code to open the doors but, you will forget it 10 seconds later. Hey! Be nice. I've not been able to golf for almost four weeks 'cause of the cracked rib. Wednesday I went out and played 18 here at Greendale. I waited long enough. Nothing hurt, so I guess I'm good to go. I bought a 7-wood, used, from Callaway. Nice club. I took the 4=iron out of the bag. I was up at the US Open a week or two ago. I've got that checked off the list and I never have to do it again. Getting ready to do the 10 day drive from Denver to Minneapolis with the wife and kids. Leaving for the airport in about an hour. Ah, Minneapolis, my birthplace. As you drive by, see if the flag is flying upside down over the capitol since Franken is now a Senator. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until its free!" --Anonymous What's so cool is I know WAFA is gonna' **** at this post and I won't even see it.. Already the group is much easier and nicer to read with he and Just a Piece of **** plonked.. Rowdy Mouse Racing, 6th place in the Womens Class! It's not polite to make reference to those in your bozos bin. Besides, you want to keep em guessing. It drives them crazy. |
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