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Nitrogen in tires
J i m wrote:
JustWait wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:07:33 -0400, BAR wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:02:49 -0400, BAR wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:44:13 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H "A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw Your tires already have 78.0% nitrogen 20.9% oxygen and some trace gases in them. How much are you going to have to pay to protect the inside of the tire from the oxygen. How do they plan to protect the outside of your tire from the effects of oxygen? Good points all. This group is definitely helping me with my senility problem. Adm Arliegh Burke has a nice facility up in McLean for guys like you. If you get into the alzheimer's ward they will give you the code to open the doors but, you will forget it 10 seconds later. Hey! Be nice. I've not been able to golf for almost four weeks 'cause of the cracked rib. Wednesday I went out and played 18 here at Greendale. I waited long enough. Nothing hurt, so I guess I'm good to go. I bought a 7-wood, used, from Callaway. Nice club. I took the 4=iron out of the bag. I was up at the US Open a week or two ago. I've got that checked off the list and I never have to do it again. Getting ready to do the 10 day drive from Denver to Minneapolis with the wife and kids. Leaving for the airport in about an hour. Ah, Minneapolis, my birthplace. As you drive by, see if the flag is flying upside down over the capitol since Franken is now a Senator. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until its free!" --Anonymous What's so cool is I know WAFA is gonna' **** at this post and I won't even see it.. Already the group is much easier and nicer to read with he and Just a Piece of **** plonked.. Rowdy Mouse Racing, 6th place in the Womens Class! It's not polite to make reference to those in your bozos bin. Besides, you want to keep em guessing. It drives them crazy. SIR, yes SIR!! |
Nitrogen in tires
"John...same as yesterday." wrote in message ... On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 23:28:25 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "John...same as yesterday." wrote in message . .. The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H The COSTCO store here filled your tires for free. Thay claim you don't lose air pressure during climate changes. (fall-winter etc) They didn't fill my tires. Don't you be making up lies about my tires. Enough is enough. Talk about owls down by the stream or something. -- John H Sorry...if you weren't such a cheapskate, and actually bought quality tires there, they'd take care of you. |
Nitrogen in tires
JustWait wrote:
J i m wrote: JustWait wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:07:33 -0400, BAR wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:02:49 -0400, BAR wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:44:13 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H "A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw Your tires already have 78.0% nitrogen 20.9% oxygen and some trace gases in them. How much are you going to have to pay to protect the inside of the tire from the oxygen. How do they plan to protect the outside of your tire from the effects of oxygen? Good points all. This group is definitely helping me with my senility problem. Adm Arliegh Burke has a nice facility up in McLean for guys like you. If you get into the alzheimer's ward they will give you the code to open the doors but, you will forget it 10 seconds later. Hey! Be nice. I've not been able to golf for almost four weeks 'cause of the cracked rib. Wednesday I went out and played 18 here at Greendale. I waited long enough. Nothing hurt, so I guess I'm good to go. I bought a 7-wood, used, from Callaway. Nice club. I took the 4=iron out of the bag. I was up at the US Open a week or two ago. I've got that checked off the list and I never have to do it again. Getting ready to do the 10 day drive from Denver to Minneapolis with the wife and kids. Leaving for the airport in about an hour. Ah, Minneapolis, my birthplace. As you drive by, see if the flag is flying upside down over the capitol since Franken is now a Senator. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until its free!" --Anonymous What's so cool is I know WAFA is gonna' **** at this post and I won't even see it.. Already the group is much easier and nicer to read with he and Just a Piece of **** plonked.. Rowdy Mouse Racing, 6th place in the Womens Class! It's not polite to make reference to those in your bozos bin. Besides, you want to keep em guessing. It drives them crazy. SIR, yes SIR!! You're confusing me with Major John. |
Nitrogen in tires
On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:12:24 -0300, "Don White"
wrote: "John...same as yesterday." wrote in message .. . On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 23:28:25 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "John...same as yesterday." wrote in message ... The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H The COSTCO store here filled your tires for free. Thay claim you don't lose air pressure during climate changes. (fall-winter etc) They didn't fill my tires. Don't you be making up lies about my tires. Enough is enough. Talk about owls down by the stream or something. -- John H Sorry...if you weren't such a cheapskate, and actually bought quality tires there, they'd take care of you. You got me. I don't buy *any* tires at Costco. I don't like seconds. Is there something wrong with the Michelin Cross Terrains on my 4Runner? I'm sure they're not as good as the Uniroyal Tiger Paw GTS's you've got on that pink RAV4. As usual, I appreciate your advice and friendly attitude. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous |
Nitrogen in tires
On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 11:20:24 -0400, J i m
wrote: JustWait wrote: J i m wrote: JustWait wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:07:33 -0400, BAR wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:02:49 -0400, BAR wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:44:13 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H "A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw Your tires already have 78.0% nitrogen 20.9% oxygen and some trace gases in them. How much are you going to have to pay to protect the inside of the tire from the oxygen. How do they plan to protect the outside of your tire from the effects of oxygen? Good points all. This group is definitely helping me with my senility problem. Adm Arliegh Burke has a nice facility up in McLean for guys like you. If you get into the alzheimer's ward they will give you the code to open the doors but, you will forget it 10 seconds later. Hey! Be nice. I've not been able to golf for almost four weeks 'cause of the cracked rib. Wednesday I went out and played 18 here at Greendale. I waited long enough. Nothing hurt, so I guess I'm good to go. I bought a 7-wood, used, from Callaway. Nice club. I took the 4=iron out of the bag. I was up at the US Open a week or two ago. I've got that checked off the list and I never have to do it again. Getting ready to do the 10 day drive from Denver to Minneapolis with the wife and kids. Leaving for the airport in about an hour. Ah, Minneapolis, my birthplace. As you drive by, see if the flag is flying upside down over the capitol since Franken is now a Senator. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until its free!" --Anonymous What's so cool is I know WAFA is gonna' **** at this post and I won't even see it.. Already the group is much easier and nicer to read with he and Just a Piece of **** plonked.. Rowdy Mouse Racing, 6th place in the Womens Class! It's not polite to make reference to those in your bozos bin. Besides, you want to keep em guessing. It drives them crazy. SIR, yes SIR!! You're confusing me with Major John. Sure as hell not me! -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous |
Nitrogen in tires
"John...same as yesterday." wrote in message ... On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 11:20:24 -0400, J i m wrote: JustWait wrote: J i m wrote: JustWait wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:07:33 -0400, BAR wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:02:49 -0400, BAR wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:44:13 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H "A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw Your tires already have 78.0% nitrogen 20.9% oxygen and some trace gases in them. How much are you going to have to pay to protect the inside of the tire from the oxygen. How do they plan to protect the outside of your tire from the effects of oxygen? Good points all. This group is definitely helping me with my senility problem. Adm Arliegh Burke has a nice facility up in McLean for guys like you. If you get into the alzheimer's ward they will give you the code to open the doors but, you will forget it 10 seconds later. Hey! Be nice. I've not been able to golf for almost four weeks 'cause of the cracked rib. Wednesday I went out and played 18 here at Greendale. I waited long enough. Nothing hurt, so I guess I'm good to go. I bought a 7-wood, used, from Callaway. Nice club. I took the 4=iron out of the bag. I was up at the US Open a week or two ago. I've got that checked off the list and I never have to do it again. Getting ready to do the 10 day drive from Denver to Minneapolis with the wife and kids. Leaving for the airport in about an hour. Ah, Minneapolis, my birthplace. As you drive by, see if the flag is flying upside down over the capitol since Franken is now a Senator. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until its free!" --Anonymous What's so cool is I know WAFA is gonna' **** at this post and I won't even see it.. Already the group is much easier and nicer to read with he and Just a Piece of **** plonked.. Rowdy Mouse Racing, 6th place in the Womens Class! It's not polite to make reference to those in your bozos bin. Besides, you want to keep em guessing. It drives them crazy. SIR, yes SIR!! You're confusing me with Major John. Sure as hell not me! -- John H ~~ Snerk ~~. Who else if a Major pain in the butt here? |
Nitrogen in tires
"John...same as yesterday." wrote in message ... On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:12:24 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "John...same as yesterday." wrote in message . .. On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 23:28:25 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "John...same as yesterday." wrote in message m... The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H The COSTCO store here filled your tires for free. Thay claim you don't lose air pressure during climate changes. (fall-winter etc) They didn't fill my tires. Don't you be making up lies about my tires. Enough is enough. Talk about owls down by the stream or something. -- John H Sorry...if you weren't such a cheapskate, and actually bought quality tires there, they'd take care of you. You got me. I don't buy *any* tires at Costco. I don't like seconds. Is there something wrong with the Michelin Cross Terrains on my 4Runner? I'm sure they're not as good as the Uniroyal Tiger Paw GTS's you've got on that pink RAV4. As usual, I appreciate your advice and friendly attitude. -- John H Huh? I have 17" Toyo A20 Open Country tires on my SUV. |
Nitrogen in tires
JustWait wrote:
John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:07:33 -0400, BAR wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:02:49 -0400, BAR wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:44:13 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H "A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw Your tires already have 78.0% nitrogen 20.9% oxygen and some trace gases in them. How much are you going to have to pay to protect the inside of the tire from the oxygen. How do they plan to protect the outside of your tire from the effects of oxygen? Good points all. This group is definitely helping me with my senility problem. Adm Arliegh Burke has a nice facility up in McLean for guys like you. If you get into the alzheimer's ward they will give you the code to open the doors but, you will forget it 10 seconds later. Hey! Be nice. I've not been able to golf for almost four weeks 'cause of the cracked rib. Wednesday I went out and played 18 here at Greendale. I waited long enough. Nothing hurt, so I guess I'm good to go. I bought a 7-wood, used, from Callaway. Nice club. I took the 4=iron out of the bag. I was up at the US Open a week or two ago. I've got that checked off the list and I never have to do it again. Getting ready to do the 10 day drive from Denver to Minneapolis with the wife and kids. Leaving for the airport in about an hour. Ah, Minneapolis, my birthplace. As you drive by, see if the flag is flying upside down over the capitol since Franken is now a Senator. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until its free!" --Anonymous What's so cool is I know WAFA is gonna' **** at this post and I won't even see it.. Already the group is much easier and nicer to read with he and Just a Piece of **** plonked.. Rowdy Mouse Racing, 6th place in the Womens Class! Why would I "gonna ****" at the vomit you and your retarded right-wing buddies spit up here? |
Nitrogen in tires
On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:49:56 -0300, "Don White"
wrote: "John...same as yesterday." wrote in message .. . On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 11:20:24 -0400, J i m wrote: JustWait wrote: J i m wrote: JustWait wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:07:33 -0400, BAR wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:02:49 -0400, BAR wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:44:13 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H "A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw Your tires already have 78.0% nitrogen 20.9% oxygen and some trace gases in them. How much are you going to have to pay to protect the inside of the tire from the oxygen. How do they plan to protect the outside of your tire from the effects of oxygen? Good points all. This group is definitely helping me with my senility problem. Adm Arliegh Burke has a nice facility up in McLean for guys like you. If you get into the alzheimer's ward they will give you the code to open the doors but, you will forget it 10 seconds later. Hey! Be nice. I've not been able to golf for almost four weeks 'cause of the cracked rib. Wednesday I went out and played 18 here at Greendale. I waited long enough. Nothing hurt, so I guess I'm good to go. I bought a 7-wood, used, from Callaway. Nice club. I took the 4=iron out of the bag. I was up at the US Open a week or two ago. I've got that checked off the list and I never have to do it again. Getting ready to do the 10 day drive from Denver to Minneapolis with the wife and kids. Leaving for the airport in about an hour. Ah, Minneapolis, my birthplace. As you drive by, see if the flag is flying upside down over the capitol since Franken is now a Senator. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until its free!" --Anonymous What's so cool is I know WAFA is gonna' **** at this post and I won't even see it.. Already the group is much easier and nicer to read with he and Just a Piece of **** plonked.. Rowdy Mouse Racing, 6th place in the Womens Class! It's not polite to make reference to those in your bozos bin. Besides, you want to keep em guessing. It drives them crazy. SIR, yes SIR!! You're confusing me with Major John. Sure as hell not me! -- John H ~~ Snerk ~~. Who else if a Major pain in the butt here? You're just sharp as a tack today. Great post, Don White. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous |
Nitrogen in tires
On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:57:21 -0300, "Don White"
wrote: "John...same as yesterday." wrote in message .. . On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:12:24 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "John...same as yesterday." wrote in message ... On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 23:28:25 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "John...same as yesterday." wrote in message om... The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H The COSTCO store here filled your tires for free. Thay claim you don't lose air pressure during climate changes. (fall-winter etc) They didn't fill my tires. Don't you be making up lies about my tires. Enough is enough. Talk about owls down by the stream or something. -- John H Sorry...if you weren't such a cheapskate, and actually bought quality tires there, they'd take care of you. You got me. I don't buy *any* tires at Costco. I don't like seconds. Is there something wrong with the Michelin Cross Terrains on my 4Runner? I'm sure they're not as good as the Uniroyal Tiger Paw GTS's you've got on that pink RAV4. As usual, I appreciate your advice and friendly attitude. -- John H Huh? I have 17" Toyo A20 Open Country tires on my SUV. Spectacular tires! Although you may want to be a little careful in the snow: http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=280744 -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous |
Nitrogen in tires
"John...same as yesterday." wrote in message ... On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:57:21 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "John...same as yesterday." wrote in message . .. On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:12:24 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "John...same as yesterday." wrote in message m... On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 23:28:25 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "John...same as yesterday." wrote in message news:trhq45h4k7p75tnbfo4fhg3u2catuj9fkc@4ax. com... The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H The COSTCO store here filled your tires for free. Thay claim you don't lose air pressure during climate changes. (fall-winter etc) They didn't fill my tires. Don't you be making up lies about my tires. Enough is enough. Talk about owls down by the stream or something. -- John H Sorry...if you weren't such a cheapskate, and actually bought quality tires there, they'd take care of you. You got me. I don't buy *any* tires at Costco. I don't like seconds. Is there something wrong with the Michelin Cross Terrains on my 4Runner? I'm sure they're not as good as the Uniroyal Tiger Paw GTS's you've got on that pink RAV4. As usual, I appreciate your advice and friendly attitude. -- John H Huh? I have 17" Toyo A20 Open Country tires on my SUV. Spectacular tires! Although you may want to be a little careful in the snow: http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=280744 -- John H I'll probably dig into the piggybank for a grand and put new snow tires & plain steel wheels on all four corners. |
Nitrogen in tires
"Don White" wrote in message ... "John...same as yesterday." wrote in message ... On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:57:21 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "John...same as yesterday." wrote in message ... On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:12:24 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "John...same as yesterday." wrote in message om... On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 23:28:25 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "John...same as yesterday." wrote in message news:trhq45h4k7p75tnbfo4fhg3u2catuj9fkc@4ax .com... The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H The COSTCO store here filled your tires for free. Thay claim you don't lose air pressure during climate changes. (fall-winter etc) They didn't fill my tires. Don't you be making up lies about my tires. Enough is enough. Talk about owls down by the stream or something. -- John H Sorry...if you weren't such a cheapskate, and actually bought quality tires there, they'd take care of you. You got me. I don't buy *any* tires at Costco. I don't like seconds. Is there something wrong with the Michelin Cross Terrains on my 4Runner? I'm sure they're not as good as the Uniroyal Tiger Paw GTS's you've got on that pink RAV4. As usual, I appreciate your advice and friendly attitude. -- John H Huh? I have 17" Toyo A20 Open Country tires on my SUV. Spectacular tires! Although you may want to be a little careful in the snow: http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=280744 -- John H I'll probably dig into the piggybank for a grand and put new snow tires & plain steel wheels on all four corners. I should add...for the November-March time period. Hopefully, tires should last 4-5 years. |
Nitrogen in tires
On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:32:12 -0400, HK wrote:
JustWait wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:07:33 -0400, BAR wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:02:49 -0400, BAR wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:44:13 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H "A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw Your tires already have 78.0% nitrogen 20.9% oxygen and some trace gases in them. How much are you going to have to pay to protect the inside of the tire from the oxygen. How do they plan to protect the outside of your tire from the effects of oxygen? Good points all. This group is definitely helping me with my senility problem. Adm Arliegh Burke has a nice facility up in McLean for guys like you. If you get into the alzheimer's ward they will give you the code to open the doors but, you will forget it 10 seconds later. Hey! Be nice. I've not been able to golf for almost four weeks 'cause of the cracked rib. Wednesday I went out and played 18 here at Greendale. I waited long enough. Nothing hurt, so I guess I'm good to go. I bought a 7-wood, used, from Callaway. Nice club. I took the 4=iron out of the bag. I was up at the US Open a week or two ago. I've got that checked off the list and I never have to do it again. Getting ready to do the 10 day drive from Denver to Minneapolis with the wife and kids. Leaving for the airport in about an hour. Ah, Minneapolis, my birthplace. As you drive by, see if the flag is flying upside down over the capitol since Franken is now a Senator. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until its free!" --Anonymous What's so cool is I know WAFA is gonna' **** at this post and I won't even see it.. Already the group is much easier and nicer to read with he and Just a Piece of **** plonked.. Rowdy Mouse Racing, 6th place in the Womens Class! Why would I "gonna ****" at the vomit you and your retarded right-wing buddies spit up here? 6th place in the women's class. Isn't that what's making you ****?? Radical, dude. |
Nitrogen in tires
On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 15:22:24 -0300, "Don White"
wrote: "Don White" wrote in message . .. "John...same as yesterday." wrote in message ... On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:57:21 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "John...same as yesterday." wrote in message m... On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:12:24 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "John...same as yesterday." wrote in message news:kqvr45lrn20iphdiinee8shqqp34opfn1d@4ax. com... On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 23:28:25 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "John...same as yesterday." wrote in message news:trhq45h4k7p75tnbfo4fhg3u2catuj9fkc@4a x.com... The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H The COSTCO store here filled your tires for free. Thay claim you don't lose air pressure during climate changes. (fall-winter etc) They didn't fill my tires. Don't you be making up lies about my tires. Enough is enough. Talk about owls down by the stream or something. -- John H Sorry...if you weren't such a cheapskate, and actually bought quality tires there, they'd take care of you. You got me. I don't buy *any* tires at Costco. I don't like seconds. Is there something wrong with the Michelin Cross Terrains on my 4Runner? I'm sure they're not as good as the Uniroyal Tiger Paw GTS's you've got on that pink RAV4. As usual, I appreciate your advice and friendly attitude. -- John H Huh? I have 17" Toyo A20 Open Country tires on my SUV. Spectacular tires! Although you may want to be a little careful in the snow: http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=280744 -- John H I'll probably dig into the piggybank for a grand and put new snow tires & plain steel wheels on all four corners. I should add...for the November-March time period. Hopefully, tires should last 4-5 years. Sounds like a plan. You might consider these: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....a+Trip leTred I had Forteras on my pickup. Loved them. And, they shouldn't set you back a grand. Well, maybe 'cause you're in Canada. Couldn't you drive into God's country and get them? Surely the Canadian customs don't keep track of the kind of tires you leave the country with. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous |
Nitrogen in tires
jps wrote:
On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:32:12 -0400, HK wrote: JustWait wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:07:33 -0400, BAR wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:02:49 -0400, BAR wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:44:13 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H "A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw Your tires already have 78.0% nitrogen 20.9% oxygen and some trace gases in them. How much are you going to have to pay to protect the inside of the tire from the oxygen. How do they plan to protect the outside of your tire from the effects of oxygen? Good points all. This group is definitely helping me with my senility problem. Adm Arliegh Burke has a nice facility up in McLean for guys like you. If you get into the alzheimer's ward they will give you the code to open the doors but, you will forget it 10 seconds later. Hey! Be nice. I've not been able to golf for almost four weeks 'cause of the cracked rib. Wednesday I went out and played 18 here at Greendale. I waited long enough. Nothing hurt, so I guess I'm good to go. I bought a 7-wood, used, from Callaway. Nice club. I took the 4=iron out of the bag. I was up at the US Open a week or two ago. I've got that checked off the list and I never have to do it again. Getting ready to do the 10 day drive from Denver to Minneapolis with the wife and kids. Leaving for the airport in about an hour. Ah, Minneapolis, my birthplace. As you drive by, see if the flag is flying upside down over the capitol since Franken is now a Senator. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until its free!" --Anonymous What's so cool is I know WAFA is gonna' **** at this post and I won't even see it.. Already the group is much easier and nicer to read with he and Just a Piece of **** plonked.. Rowdy Mouse Racing, 6th place in the Womens Class! Why would I "gonna ****" at the vomit you and your retarded right-wing buddies spit up here? 6th place in the women's class. Isn't that what's making you ****?? Radical, dude. I'll keep it in mind if I ever enter an amateur "women's" bitty motocross race on the redneck dirt of his part of new england. |
Nitrogen in tires
On Jul 3, 4:01*pm, HK wrote:
jps wrote: On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 12:32:12 -0400, HK wrote: JustWait wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:07:33 -0400, BAR wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:02:49 -0400, BAR wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:44:13 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H "A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw Your tires already have 78.0% nitrogen 20.9% oxygen and some trace gases in them. *How much are you going to have to pay to protect the inside of the tire from the oxygen. *How do they plan to protect the outside of your tire from the effects of oxygen? Good points all. This group is definitely helping me with my senility problem. Adm Arliegh Burke has a nice facility up in McLean for guys like you. If you get into the alzheimer's ward they will give you the code to open the doors but, you will forget it 10 seconds later. Hey! Be nice. I've not been able to golf for almost four weeks 'cause of the cracked rib. Wednesday I went out and played 18 here at Greendale. I waited long enough. Nothing hurt, so I guess I'm good to go. I bought a 7-wood, used, from Callaway. Nice club. I took the 4=iron out of the bag. I was up at the US Open a week or two ago. I've got that checked off the list and I never have to do it again. Getting ready to do the 10 day drive from Denver to Minneapolis with the wife and kids. Leaving for the airport in about an hour. Ah, Minneapolis, my birthplace. As you drive by, see if the flag is flying upside down over the capitol since Franken is now a Senator. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until its free!" --Anonymous What's so cool is I know WAFA is gonna' **** at this post and I won't even see it.. Already the group is much easier and nicer to read with he and Just a Piece of **** plonked.. Rowdy Mouse Racing, 6th place in the Womens Class! Why would I "gonna ****" at the vomit you and your retarded right-wing buddies spit up here? 6th place in the women's class. *Isn't that what's making you ****?? Radical, dude. I'll keep it in mind if I ever enter an amateur "women's" bitty motocross race on the redneck dirt of his part of new england.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Could you translate that into English Mr. alleged professional writer? |
Nitrogen in tires
On Jul 3, 3:09*pm, John...same as yesterday.
wrote: On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 15:22:24 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Don White" wrote in message . .. "John...same as yesterday." wrote in message . .. On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:57:21 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "John...same as yesterday." wrote in message m... On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:12:24 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "John...same as yesterday." wrote in message news:kqvr45lrn20iphdiinee8shqqp34opfn1d@4ax. com... On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 23:28:25 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "John...same as yesterday." wrote in message news:trhq45h4k7p75tnbfo4fhg3u2catuj9fkc@4a x.com... The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H The COSTCO store here filled your tires for free. Thay claim you don't lose air pressure during climate changes. (fall-winter etc) They didn't fill my tires. Don't you be making up lies about my tires. Enough is enough. Talk about owls down by the stream or something. -- John H Sorry...if you weren't such a cheapskate, and actually bought quality tires there, they'd take care of you. You got me. I don't buy *any* tires at Costco. I don't like seconds.. Is there something wrong with the Michelin Cross Terrains on my 4Runner? I'm sure they're not as good as the Uniroyal Tiger Paw GTS's you've got on that pink RAV4. As usual, I appreciate your advice and friendly attitude. -- John H Huh? I have 17" Toyo A20 Open Country tires on my SUV. Spectacular tires! Although you may want to be a little careful in the snow: http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=280744 -- John H I'll probably dig into the piggybank for a grand and put new snow tires & plain steel wheels on all four corners. I should add...for the November-March time period. Hopefully, tires should last 4-5 years. Sounds like a plan. You might consider these: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....ar&tireModel=F.... I had Forteras on my pickup. Loved them. And, they shouldn't set you back a grand. Well, maybe 'cause you're in Canada. Couldn't you drive into God's country and get them? Surely the Canadian customs don't keep track of the kind of tires you leave the country with. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I will tell you, in my opinion the worst truck tire in the world is Goodyear Wranglers. When I bought my Jeep new, it had them on. Couldn't wait until they got old so I could get them off. You could balance and rotate them damned things every week and they'd still ride rough. Bought my new truck, guess what tires it has on it? Yep, and the same thing. Everyone I've talked to that has owned them said they'd never buy them again. |
Nitrogen in tires
On Jul 3, 12:32*pm, HK wrote:
JustWait wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:07:33 -0400, BAR wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:02:49 -0400, BAR wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:44:13 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H "A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw Your tires already have 78.0% nitrogen 20.9% oxygen and some trace gases in them. *How much are you going to have to pay to protect the inside of the tire from the oxygen. *How do they plan to protect the outside of your tire from the effects of oxygen? Good points all. This group is definitely helping me with my senility problem. Adm Arliegh Burke has a nice facility up in McLean for guys like you. If you get into the alzheimer's ward they will give you the code to open the doors but, you will forget it 10 seconds later. Hey! Be nice. I've not been able to golf for almost four weeks 'cause of the cracked rib. Wednesday I went out and played 18 here at Greendale. I waited long enough. Nothing hurt, so I guess I'm good to go. I bought a 7-wood, used, from Callaway. Nice club. I took the 4=iron out of the bag. I was up at the US Open a week or two ago. I've got that checked off the list and I never have to do it again. Getting ready to do the 10 day drive from Denver to Minneapolis with the wife and kids. Leaving for the airport in about an hour. Ah, Minneapolis, my birthplace. As you drive by, see if the flag is flying upside down over the capitol since Franken is now a Senator. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until its free!" --Anonymous What's so cool is I know WAFA is gonna' **** at this post and I won't even see it.. Already the group is much easier and nicer to read with he and Just a Piece of **** plonked.. Rowdy Mouse Racing, 6th place in the Womens Class! Why would I "gonna ****" at the vomit you and your retarded right-wing buddies spit up here?- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Um, you just did, idiot. |
Nitrogen in tires
John...same as yesterday. wrote:
On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:49:56 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "John...same as yesterday." wrote in message ... On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 11:20:24 -0400, J i m wrote: JustWait wrote: J i m wrote: JustWait wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:07:33 -0400, BAR wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:02:49 -0400, BAR wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:44:13 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H "A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw Your tires already have 78.0% nitrogen 20.9% oxygen and some trace gases in them. How much are you going to have to pay to protect the inside of the tire from the oxygen. How do they plan to protect the outside of your tire from the effects of oxygen? Good points all. This group is definitely helping me with my senility problem. Adm Arliegh Burke has a nice facility up in McLean for guys like you. If you get into the alzheimer's ward they will give you the code to open the doors but, you will forget it 10 seconds later. Hey! Be nice. I've not been able to golf for almost four weeks 'cause of the cracked rib. Wednesday I went out and played 18 here at Greendale. I waited long enough. Nothing hurt, so I guess I'm good to go. I bought a 7-wood, used, from Callaway. Nice club. I took the 4=iron out of the bag. I was up at the US Open a week or two ago. I've got that checked off the list and I never have to do it again. Getting ready to do the 10 day drive from Denver to Minneapolis with the wife and kids. Leaving for the airport in about an hour. Ah, Minneapolis, my birthplace. As you drive by, see if the flag is flying upside down over the capitol since Franken is now a Senator. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until its free!" --Anonymous What's so cool is I know WAFA is gonna' **** at this post and I won't even see it.. Already the group is much easier and nicer to read with he and Just a Piece of **** plonked.. Rowdy Mouse Racing, 6th place in the Womens Class! It's not polite to make reference to those in your bozos bin. Besides, you want to keep em guessing. It drives them crazy. SIR, yes SIR!! You're confusing me with Major John. Sure as hell not me! -- John H ~~ Snerk ~~. Who else if a Major pain in the butt here? You're just sharp as a tack today. Great post, Don White. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous? My apologies. Did I give you a promotion or a demotion? |
Nitrogen in tires
On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 14:11:42 -0700 (PDT), Loogypicker
wrote: On Jul 3, 3:09*pm, John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 15:22:24 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "Don White" wrote in message . .. "John...same as yesterday." wrote in message . .. On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:57:21 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "John...same as yesterday." wrote in message m... On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:12:24 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "John...same as yesterday." wrote in message news:kqvr45lrn20iphdiinee8shqqp34opfn1d@4ax. com... On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 23:28:25 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "John...same as yesterday." wrote in message news:trhq45h4k7p75tnbfo4fhg3u2catuj9fkc@4a x.com... The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H The COSTCO store here filled your tires for free. Thay claim you don't lose air pressure during climate changes. (fall-winter etc) They didn't fill my tires. Don't you be making up lies about my tires. Enough is enough. Talk about owls down by the stream or something. -- John H Sorry...if you weren't such a cheapskate, and actually bought quality tires there, they'd take care of you. You got me. I don't buy *any* tires at Costco. I don't like seconds. Is there something wrong with the Michelin Cross Terrains on my 4Runner? I'm sure they're not as good as the Uniroyal Tiger Paw GTS's you've got on that pink RAV4. As usual, I appreciate your advice and friendly attitude. -- John H Huh? I have 17" Toyo A20 Open Country tires on my SUV. Spectacular tires! Although you may want to be a little careful in the snow: http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=280744 -- John H I'll probably dig into the piggybank for a grand and put new snow tires & plain steel wheels on all four corners. I should add...for the November-March time period. Hopefully, tires should last 4-5 years. Sounds like a plan. You might consider these: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....ar&tireModel=F... I had Forteras on my pickup. Loved them. And, they shouldn't set you back a grand. Well, maybe 'cause you're in Canada. Couldn't you drive into God's country and get them? Surely the Canadian customs don't keep track of the kind of tires you leave the country with. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - I will tell you, in my opinion the worst truck tire in the world is Goodyear Wranglers. When I bought my Jeep new, it had them on. Couldn't wait until they got old so I could get them off. You could balance and rotate them damned things every week and they'd still ride rough. Bought my new truck, guess what tires it has on it? Yep, and the same thing. Everyone I've talked to that has owned them said they'd never buy them again. I'd never have a set of Wranglers. Look at the warranty for Wranglers. When I bought my Forteras for the truck, Goodyear didn't give a warranty for the Wranglers. That should tell folks something right there. I think Wranglers must seem like a macho man's tire to some. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous |
Nitrogen in tires
On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 17:47:54 -0400, J i m
wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:49:56 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "John...same as yesterday." wrote in message ... On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 11:20:24 -0400, J i m wrote: JustWait wrote: J i m wrote: JustWait wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Fri, 03 Jul 2009 09:07:33 -0400, BAR wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 23:02:49 -0400, BAR wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:44:13 -0400, Keith Nuttle wrote: John...same as yesterday. wrote: The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H "A government policy to rob Peter to pay Paul can be assured of the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw Your tires already have 78.0% nitrogen 20.9% oxygen and some trace gases in them. How much are you going to have to pay to protect the inside of the tire from the oxygen. How do they plan to protect the outside of your tire from the effects of oxygen? Good points all. This group is definitely helping me with my senility problem. Adm Arliegh Burke has a nice facility up in McLean for guys like you. If you get into the alzheimer's ward they will give you the code to open the doors but, you will forget it 10 seconds later. Hey! Be nice. I've not been able to golf for almost four weeks 'cause of the cracked rib. Wednesday I went out and played 18 here at Greendale. I waited long enough. Nothing hurt, so I guess I'm good to go. I bought a 7-wood, used, from Callaway. Nice club. I took the 4=iron out of the bag. I was up at the US Open a week or two ago. I've got that checked off the list and I never have to do it again. Getting ready to do the 10 day drive from Denver to Minneapolis with the wife and kids. Leaving for the airport in about an hour. Ah, Minneapolis, my birthplace. As you drive by, see if the flag is flying upside down over the capitol since Franken is now a Senator. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until its free!" --Anonymous What's so cool is I know WAFA is gonna' **** at this post and I won't even see it.. Already the group is much easier and nicer to read with he and Just a Piece of **** plonked.. Rowdy Mouse Racing, 6th place in the Womens Class! It's not polite to make reference to those in your bozos bin. Besides, you want to keep em guessing. It drives them crazy. SIR, yes SIR!! You're confusing me with Major John. Sure as hell not me! -- John H ~~ Snerk ~~. Who else if a Major pain in the butt here? You're just sharp as a tack today. Great post, Don White. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous? My apologies. Did I give you a promotion or a demotion? I'd have been thrilled with a promotion, but I can get by with just 'John'. Or, if you feel like Harry, 'Asshole' will also work. -- John H "If you think healthcare is expensive now, wait until it's free!" --Anonymous |
Nitrogen in tires
Don White wrote:
"John...same as yesterday." wrote in message ... On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:12:24 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "John...same as yesterday." wrote in message ... On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 23:28:25 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "John...same as yesterday." wrote in message ... The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H The COSTCO store here filled your tires for free. Thay claim you don't lose air pressure during climate changes. (fall-winter etc) They didn't fill my tires. Don't you be making up lies about my tires. Enough is enough. Talk about owls down by the stream or something. -- John H Sorry...if you weren't such a cheapskate, and actually bought quality tires there, they'd take care of you. You got me. I don't buy *any* tires at Costco. I don't like seconds. Is there something wrong with the Michelin Cross Terrains on my 4Runner? I'm sure they're not as good as the Uniroyal Tiger Paw GTS's you've got on that pink RAV4. As usual, I appreciate your advice and friendly attitude. -- John H Huh? I have 17" Toyo A20 Open Country tires on my SUV. Great, but he was asking about the pink RAV4. |
Nitrogen in tires
On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 15:16:26 -0300, "Don White"
wrote: "John...same as yesterday." wrote in message .. . On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:57:21 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "John...same as yesterday." wrote in message ... On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 12:12:24 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "John...same as yesterday." wrote in message om... On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 23:28:25 -0300, "Don White" wrote: "John...same as yesterday." wrote in message news:trhq45h4k7p75tnbfo4fhg3u2catuj9fkc@4ax .com... The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H The COSTCO store here filled your tires for free. Thay claim you don't lose air pressure during climate changes. (fall-winter etc) They didn't fill my tires. Don't you be making up lies about my tires. Enough is enough. Talk about owls down by the stream or something. -- John H Sorry...if you weren't such a cheapskate, and actually bought quality tires there, they'd take care of you. You got me. I don't buy *any* tires at Costco. I don't like seconds. Is there something wrong with the Michelin Cross Terrains on my 4Runner? I'm sure they're not as good as the Uniroyal Tiger Paw GTS's you've got on that pink RAV4. As usual, I appreciate your advice and friendly attitude. -- John H Huh? I have 17" Toyo A20 Open Country tires on my SUV. Spectacular tires! Although you may want to be a little careful in the snow: http://www.toyotanation.com/forum/sh...d.php?t=280744 -- John H I'll probably dig into the piggybank for a grand and put new snow tires & plain steel wheels on all four corners. |
Nitrogen in tires
"Gene" wrote in message ... Bummer..... I just thought of something... it may be worth the nitrogen to protect those TMPS sensors... -- Most of the TMPS systems don't really measure tire pressure. The system has speed sensors on each wheel and measures the rotation time of each tire compared to the others. If a tire is low, it's number of rotations for a given speed, compared to the other tires will increase. That's what triggers the low pressure warning. It's a natural add-on capability brought about by anti-lock braking systems (which require the speed sensors). So, air or nitrogen means diddily. Eisboch |
Nitrogen in tires
"Don White" wrote in message ... "John...same as yesterday." wrote in message ... The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H The COSTCO store here filled your tires for free. Thay claim you don't lose air pressure during climate changes. (fall-winter etc) Just noticed the large sign on a well known tire dealer within walking distance of my home. They say they will show you how you can save money with nitrogen in your tires. I'm sure it's about gas savings with properly inflated tires...but I might drop in next week and hear their argument. |
Nitrogen in tires
"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Gene" wrote in message ... Bummer..... I just thought of something... it may be worth the nitrogen to protect those TMPS sensors... -- Most of the TMPS systems don't really measure tire pressure. The system has speed sensors on each wheel and measures the rotation time of each tire compared to the others. If a tire is low, it's number of rotations for a given speed, compared to the other tires will increase. That's what triggers the low pressure warning. It's a natural add-on capability brought about by anti-lock braking systems (which require the speed sensors). So, air or nitrogen means diddily. Eisboch What about the sensors that readout PSI and not just the *low* warning. I have two Buick Lucernes and the newest actually reads out the PSI for each tire, the older gives a low warning without telling which tire is actually low. The older system is the one that I understand measured wheel rotation. |
Nitrogen in tires
"D.Duck" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Gene" wrote in message ... Bummer..... I just thought of something... it may be worth the nitrogen to protect those TMPS sensors... -- Most of the TMPS systems don't really measure tire pressure. The system has speed sensors on each wheel and measures the rotation time of each tire compared to the others. If a tire is low, it's number of rotations for a given speed, compared to the other tires will increase. That's what triggers the low pressure warning. It's a natural add-on capability brought about by anti-lock braking systems (which require the speed sensors). So, air or nitrogen means diddily. Eisboch What about the sensors that readout PSI and not just the *low* warning. I have two Buick Lucernes and the newest actually reads out the PSI for each tire, the older gives a low warning without telling which tire is actually low. The older system is the one that I understand measured wheel rotation. I was unaware of that. Learn something new everyday. It is my understanding however that most of the tire pressure monitoring systems are of the type I described. Eisboch |
Nitrogen in tires
"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "D.Duck" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Gene" wrote in message ... Bummer..... I just thought of something... it may be worth the nitrogen to protect those TMPS sensors... -- Most of the TMPS systems don't really measure tire pressure. The system has speed sensors on each wheel and measures the rotation time of each tire compared to the others. If a tire is low, it's number of rotations for a given speed, compared to the other tires will increase. That's what triggers the low pressure warning. It's a natural add-on capability brought about by anti-lock braking systems (which require the speed sensors). So, air or nitrogen means diddily. Eisboch What about the sensors that readout PSI and not just the *low* warning. I have two Buick Lucernes and the newest actually reads out the PSI for each tire, the older gives a low warning without telling which tire is actually low. The older system is the one that I understand measured wheel rotation. I was unaware of that. Learn something new everyday. It is my understanding however that most of the tire pressure monitoring systems are of the type I described. Eisboch If i recall correctly the senors that measure PSI cost $300~400 to replace |
Nitrogen in tires
"D.Duck" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "D.Duck" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Gene" wrote in message ... Bummer..... I just thought of something... it may be worth the nitrogen to protect those TMPS sensors... -- Most of the TMPS systems don't really measure tire pressure. The system has speed sensors on each wheel and measures the rotation time of each tire compared to the others. If a tire is low, it's number of rotations for a given speed, compared to the other tires will increase. That's what triggers the low pressure warning. It's a natural add-on capability brought about by anti-lock braking systems (which require the speed sensors). So, air or nitrogen means diddily. Eisboch What about the sensors that readout PSI and not just the *low* warning. I have two Buick Lucernes and the newest actually reads out the PSI for each tire, the older gives a low warning without telling which tire is actually low. The older system is the one that I understand measured wheel rotation. I was unaware of that. Learn something new everyday. It is my understanding however that most of the tire pressure monitoring systems are of the type I described. Eisboch If i recall correctly the senors that measure PSI cost $300~400 to replace A tire pressure gauge is a couple of bucks at Auto Zone. Eisboch |
Nitrogen in tires
On Jul 4, 6:57*pm, "Don White" wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message ... "John...same as yesterday." wrote in message .. . The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30. Is it worth it? Thoughts? -- John H The COSTCO store here filled your tires for free. Thay claim you don't lose air pressure during climate changes. (fall-winter etc) Just noticed the large sign on a well known tire dealer within walking distance of my home. They say they will show you how you can save money with nitrogen in your tires. I'm sure it's about gas savings with properly inflated tires...but I might drop in next week and hear their argument. Bull****. Pressure is pressure. |
Nitrogen in tires
"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "D.Duck" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "D.Duck" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "Gene" wrote in message ... Bummer..... I just thought of something... it may be worth the nitrogen to protect those TMPS sensors... -- Most of the TMPS systems don't really measure tire pressure. The system has speed sensors on each wheel and measures the rotation time of each tire compared to the others. If a tire is low, it's number of rotations for a given speed, compared to the other tires will increase. That's what triggers the low pressure warning. It's a natural add-on capability brought about by anti-lock braking systems (which require the speed sensors). So, air or nitrogen means diddily. Eisboch What about the sensors that readout PSI and not just the *low* warning. I have two Buick Lucernes and the newest actually reads out the PSI for each tire, the older gives a low warning without telling which tire is actually low. The older system is the one that I understand measured wheel rotation. I was unaware of that. Learn something new everyday. It is my understanding however that most of the tire pressure monitoring systems are of the type I described. Eisboch If i recall correctly the senors that measure PSI cost $300~400 to replace A tire pressure gauge is a couple of bucks at Auto Zone. Eisboch Ever try to read tire pressure at 70 MPH? 8) |
Nitrogen in tires
"D.Duck" wrote in message ... A tire pressure gauge is a couple of bucks at Auto Zone. Eisboch Ever try to read tire pressure at 70 MPH? 8) Good point. I am not sure I am all for the gadgets and high tech, computer controlled wizardry in cars. KISS. I think about the '06 M5 I had (all two of them). They probably represented the state-of-the-art in electronic, CPU controlled operation that year, from the engine management systems to the electronically controlled SMG transmission that operates the clutch electronically. They were both a disaster. Traded in the first one because it had too many software "bugs". Transmission would freeze up in neutral. The famous "Red Cog of Death" would appear on the driver's display and your only option was to call a flatbed. Traded that in for one that had a later build date that reportedly had the bugs worked out. Nope. Car was a spectacular performer, with 500 hp and handling that could safely rocket you along at over 200 mph if you were so inclined (I wasn't), but the damn thing wouldn't move half the time due to a software malfunction. That's when I traded it for the Porsche 911TT. Porsche remains somewhat "old school" and other than those electronics that are absolutely necessary, it was a driver's car. I like that. Ironically though, it was Porsche, back in the late 80's, that developed the first tire pressure monitoring system, based on speed sensors on all four wheels. Eisboch |
Nitrogen in tires
"Eisboch" wrote in message ... "D.Duck" wrote in message ... A tire pressure gauge is a couple of bucks at Auto Zone. Eisboch Ever try to read tire pressure at 70 MPH? 8) Good point. I am not sure I am all for the gadgets and high tech, computer controlled wizardry in cars. KISS. I think about the '06 M5 I had (all two of them). They probably represented the state-of-the-art in electronic, CPU controlled operation that year, from the engine management systems to the electronically controlled SMG transmission that operates the clutch electronically. They were both a disaster. Traded in the first one because it had too many software "bugs". Transmission would freeze up in neutral. The famous "Red Cog of Death" would appear on the driver's display and your only option was to call a flatbed. Traded that in for one that had a later build date that reportedly had the bugs worked out. Nope. Car was a spectacular performer, with 500 hp and handling that could safely rocket you along at over 200 mph if you were so inclined (I wasn't), but the damn thing wouldn't move half the time due to a software malfunction. That's when I traded it for the Porsche 911TT. Porsche remains somewhat "old school" and other than those electronics that are absolutely necessary, it was a driver's car. I like that. Ironically though, it was Porsche, back in the late 80's, that developed the first tire pressure monitoring system, based on speed sensors on all four wheels. Eisboch I must have been thinking of some other over-priced replacement car part. Although not oem you can get the whole kit for under $150. http://www.automotix.net/bodyparts/2...-tpms409s.html Car software problems. I have the two Lucernes, '07 and '08. On occasion either one of them will lock the doors when you exit the vehicle. When it first happened I talked with the local service manager and they had never heard of it. Maybe a year later the same guy confessed that they were now aware of the problem and the service guys roll down a window just in case the car locks while they are working on it. GM will not do anything about it. It's a problem for me as we leave the keys in the car when they are parked at home. I now carry a spare in my pocket. |
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"D.Duck" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "D.Duck" wrote in message ... A tire pressure gauge is a couple of bucks at Auto Zone. Eisboch Ever try to read tire pressure at 70 MPH? 8) Good point. I am not sure I am all for the gadgets and high tech, computer controlled wizardry in cars. KISS. I think about the '06 M5 I had (all two of them). They probably represented the state-of-the-art in electronic, CPU controlled operation that year, from the engine management systems to the electronically controlled SMG transmission that operates the clutch electronically. They were both a disaster. Traded in the first one because it had too many software "bugs". Transmission would freeze up in neutral. The famous "Red Cog of Death" would appear on the driver's display and your only option was to call a flatbed. Traded that in for one that had a later build date that reportedly had the bugs worked out. Nope. Car was a spectacular performer, with 500 hp and handling that could safely rocket you along at over 200 mph if you were so inclined (I wasn't), but the damn thing wouldn't move half the time due to a software malfunction. That's when I traded it for the Porsche 911TT. Porsche remains somewhat "old school" and other than those electronics that are absolutely necessary, it was a driver's car. I like that. Ironically though, it was Porsche, back in the late 80's, that developed the first tire pressure monitoring system, based on speed sensors on all four wheels. Eisboch I must have been thinking of some other over-priced replacement car part. Although not oem you can get the whole kit for under $150. http://www.automotix.net/bodyparts/2...-tpms409s.html Car software problems. I have the two Lucernes, '07 and '08. On occasion either one of them will lock the doors when you exit the vehicle. When it first happened I talked with the local service manager and they had never heard of it. Maybe a year later the same guy confessed that they were now aware of the problem and the service guys roll down a window just in case the car locks while they are working on it. GM will not do anything about it. It's a problem for me as we leave the keys in the car when they are parked at home. I now carry a spare in my pocket. Leave your keys in the car...while it's unlocked? They'd love you around here...in no time at all your cars would be in a container on its way to Russia or some 3rd world country. |
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On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 16:07:50 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:
I must have been thinking of some other over-priced replacement car part. Although not oem you can get the whole kit for under $150. http://www.automotix.net/bodyparts/2...-tpms409s.html That looks like an aftermarket kit. Probably better than the factory installed, which infects your dash display. Looks like you can just toss this thing when it breaks, display and all. Then you won't have a dead spot on the dash or flashing lights there. I'm with Eisboch on the KISS. The more doodads to fix, the less I like it. Car software problems. I have the two Lucernes, '07 and '08. On occasion either one of them will lock the doors when you exit the vehicle. When it first happened I talked with the local service manager and they had never heard of it. Maybe a year later the same guy confessed that they were now aware of the problem and the service guys roll down a window just in case the car locks while they are working on it. GM will not do anything about it. It's a problem for me as we leave the keys in the car when they are parked at home. I now carry a spare in my pocket. Sometimes this lock/unlock stuff is a short/grounding/intermittant connection problem. I had it on my '97 Lumina, but only with the ignition on. My kid found miswiring and bad connections in alarm/remote locking system. He's done a lot of those. Who knows what a mech would have cost. I've got a '93 Grand Am my daughter used until she got something else. She got locked out twice, key in ignition, but not running, when it locked of it's own accord. I won't close the door with the key inside. Have to put "spare key" on my todo list. Here's some of the issues/problems. 1. Manual locks are you friend. Good luck finding them. 2. Electric locks independent of the car computer can still malfunction due to wiring/shorts. The Grand Am has independent locks, not tied to the ignition, with its own fused circuit. Tracking down the problem is straight forward. I just don't want to do it yet. 3. The Lumina auto-locks when the engine is started, but it's the alarm system doing that, so again it was straight forward troubleshooting it. It's only tied to the ignition through the alarm system. 4. Then we have your cars. Let's call them Christine and Christina. The locks are controlled by the girls' hormone influenced brains. GM started controlling locks with the computer in about 2002. And it might not be software, but intermittent ECU circuitry glitches. That's nearly always indicated if temp makes a difference in rate of occurrence. KISS would not allow this. KISS would keep systems discrete and avoid complexity for complexity's sake. GM would have located the problem and fixed it. Well, they would have located it. Given GM's rep for customer satisfaction, maybe you would pay. Reminds me many arguments I had with some system designers and programmer. Those that liked complexity and massive modules that could do everything. They considered it "elegant." I considered it Christine. I liked breaking a system up into independent modules and job streams, so a problem could be quickly located, identified and fixed. And modified or added too with no pain. That philosophy worked very well for me, and everybody who paid me agreed. Since I'm retired and IT has passed me by I won't argue that anymore. But DAMMIT, I WANT MANUAL LOCKS AND ROLL UP WINDOWS! --Vic |
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On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 19:05:40 -0300, "Don White"
wrote: Leave your keys in the car...while it's unlocked? They'd love you around here...in no time at all your cars would be in a container on its way to Russia or some 3rd world country. Leaving them in the car isn't a bad idea if your car is in a locked garage. Quick getaway when the wife gets ****ed. I always keep my house key on the same ring though, and might get confused dealing with two key rings. I just know I'd lock myself out of something. --Vic |
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"Vic Smith" wrote in message ... On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 16:07:50 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote: I must have been thinking of some other over-priced replacement car part. Although not oem you can get the whole kit for under $150. http://www.automotix.net/bodyparts/2...-tpms409s.html That looks like an aftermarket kit. Probably better than the factory installed, which infects your dash display. Looks like you can just toss this thing when it breaks, display and all. Then you won't have a dead spot on the dash or flashing lights there. I'm with Eisboch on the KISS. The more doodads to fix, the less I like it. Car software problems. I have the two Lucernes, '07 and '08. On occasion either one of them will lock the doors when you exit the vehicle. When it first happened I talked with the local service manager and they had never heard of it. Maybe a year later the same guy confessed that they were now aware of the problem and the service guys roll down a window just in case the car locks while they are working on it. GM will not do anything about it. It's a problem for me as we leave the keys in the car when they are parked at home. I now carry a spare in my pocket. Sometimes this lock/unlock stuff is a short/grounding/intermittant connection problem. I had it on my '97 Lumina, but only with the ignition on. My kid found miswiring and bad connections in alarm/remote locking system. He's done a lot of those. Who knows what a mech would have cost. I've got a '93 Grand Am my daughter used until she got something else. She got locked out twice, key in ignition, but not running, when it locked of it's own accord. I won't close the door with the key inside. Have to put "spare key" on my todo list. Here's some of the issues/problems. 1. Manual locks are you friend. Good luck finding them. 2. Electric locks independent of the car computer can still malfunction due to wiring/shorts. The Grand Am has independent locks, not tied to the ignition, with its own fused circuit. Tracking down the problem is straight forward. I just don't want to do it yet. 3. The Lumina auto-locks when the engine is started, but it's the alarm system doing that, so again it was straight forward troubleshooting it. It's only tied to the ignition through the alarm system. 4. Then we have your cars. Let's call them Christine and Christina. The locks are controlled by the girls' hormone influenced brains. GM started controlling locks with the computer in about 2002. And it might not be software, but intermittent ECU circuitry glitches. That's nearly always indicated if temp makes a difference in rate of occurrence. KISS would not allow this. KISS would keep systems discrete and avoid complexity for complexity's sake. GM would have located the problem and fixed it. Well, they would have located it. Given GM's rep for customer satisfaction, maybe you would pay. Reminds me many arguments I had with some system designers and programmer. Those that liked complexity and massive modules that could do everything. They considered it "elegant." I considered it Christine. I liked breaking a system up into independent modules and job streams, so a problem could be quickly located, identified and fixed. And modified or added too with no pain. That philosophy worked very well for me, and everybody who paid me agreed. Since I'm retired and IT has passed me by I won't argue that anymore. But DAMMIT, I WANT MANUAL LOCKS AND ROLL UP WINDOWS! --Vic Funny you should say that about manual windows/locks. That's all I ever had...up till 3 months ago when I bought the 'base' RAV4. Someone at Toyota Canada must have thought they were offering good value by including a lot of things that weren't usually on the base model at a lower price than 2008 models. The lowest model up here is 4 wheel drive (on demand or can be locked in under 40 kph) Power locks, windows & mirrors. Defrosters on windshield re wiper blades, rear window & heated outside mirrors. Radio/CD/MP3 player & the larger 17" fancy wheels (not plain steel with discs) There are even some silly things like a light that comes on in both sunvisors when you slide the little mirror door back. Probably a number of ther little things that I haven't used yet. Anyway, a reasonably turned out 'base' vehicle...except I'd rather the manual windows & door locks. |
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"Don White" wrote in message ... "D.Duck" wrote in message ... "Eisboch" wrote in message ... "D.Duck" wrote in message ... A tire pressure gauge is a couple of bucks at Auto Zone. Eisboch Ever try to read tire pressure at 70 MPH? 8) Good point. I am not sure I am all for the gadgets and high tech, computer controlled wizardry in cars. KISS. I think about the '06 M5 I had (all two of them). They probably represented the state-of-the-art in electronic, CPU controlled operation that year, from the engine management systems to the electronically controlled SMG transmission that operates the clutch electronically. They were both a disaster. Traded in the first one because it had too many software "bugs". Transmission would freeze up in neutral. The famous "Red Cog of Death" would appear on the driver's display and your only option was to call a flatbed. Traded that in for one that had a later build date that reportedly had the bugs worked out. Nope. Car was a spectacular performer, with 500 hp and handling that could safely rocket you along at over 200 mph if you were so inclined (I wasn't), but the damn thing wouldn't move half the time due to a software malfunction. That's when I traded it for the Porsche 911TT. Porsche remains somewhat "old school" and other than those electronics that are absolutely necessary, it was a driver's car. I like that. Ironically though, it was Porsche, back in the late 80's, that developed the first tire pressure monitoring system, based on speed sensors on all four wheels. Eisboch I must have been thinking of some other over-priced replacement car part. Although not oem you can get the whole kit for under $150. http://www.automotix.net/bodyparts/2...-tpms409s.html Car software problems. I have the two Lucernes, '07 and '08. On occasion either one of them will lock the doors when you exit the vehicle. When it first happened I talked with the local service manager and they had never heard of it. Maybe a year later the same guy confessed that they were now aware of the problem and the service guys roll down a window just in case the car locks while they are working on it. GM will not do anything about it. It's a problem for me as we leave the keys in the car when they are parked at home. I now carry a spare in my pocket. Leave your keys in the car...while it's unlocked? They'd love you around here...in no time at all your cars would be in a container on its way to Russia or some 3rd world country. Here ain't there.... |
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On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 20:23:13 -0400, "D.Duck" wrote:
Here ain't there.... And there ain't here |
Yo, Zombie, Wizard, Tom, Captain Marvel or whoever you are today ...
The highway department here in Duxbury is selling a 1953 vintage tractor. I
believe it is a Massey Ferguson, but could be wrong. The town says it doesn't run, they can't get parts, so they will probably end up selling it for scrap. Want me to make an offer? I don't know anything about old tractors. Eisboch |
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