"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
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On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:50:17 -0400, John...same as yesterday.
wrote:

The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30.
Is it worth it? Thoughts?

Well, consider this - regular old air is 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, 1%
other gases and water vapor.

The advantage of nitrogen is that it won't diffuse through the rubber
because the molecule is bigger.


Although true, the relative size difference means diddily squat.
I get a big kick out of the claims. The reason that nitrogen filled
tires stay inflated better is because after spending 30 to 50 bucks
to have it done, people check the inflation more often.

It's nothing but a marketing scam.
Also, tires age, rot and crack from the outside, not the inside. Ridding
the
internal gas of reactive components to sunlight and weather doesn't help
the outside surfaces much.

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"Wizard of Woodstock" wrote in message
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On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:50:17 -0400, John...same as yesterday.
wrote:

The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30.
Is it worth it? Thoughts?

Well, consider this - regular old air is 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, 1%
other gases and water vapor.

The advantage of nitrogen is that it won't diffuse through the rubber
because the molecule is bigger.


Although true, the relative size difference means diddily squat.
I get a big kick out of the claims. The reason that nitrogen filled
tires stay inflated better is because after spending 30 to 50 bucks
to have it done, people check the inflation more often.

It's nothing but a marketing scam.
Also, tires age, rot and crack from the outside, not the inside. Ridding
the
internal gas of reactive components to sunlight and weather doesn't help
the outside surfaces much.


NASCAR uses Nitrogen for the reason it is dry. No water vapor to change the
pressure drastically with heat. It may lose less in a passenger / truck
tire, but not enough difference to matter. I check my truck tires regularly
and still have to add once in awhile. And Costco used N2.

JustWait wrote:
HK wrote:
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:35:44 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Jul 2, 9:28 pm, "Don White" wrote:
"John...same as yesterday." wrote in
messagenews:trhq45h4k7p75tnbfo4fhg3u2catuj9fkc@4ax .com...

The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30.
Is it worth it? Thoughts?
--
John H
The COSTCO store here filled your tires for free. Thay claim you
don't lose
air pressure during climate changes. (fall-winter etc)
Well Don, that's what they may claim. But around here, in the late
fall, it seems that when a cold frost hits over night, you can pretty
well expect tires to lose about 10# of pressure a piece.

I don't know about ten pounds, but certainly three or four.


Don't you have those "never lose pressure" etec tires?

Wow, a post by Harry, who'd a thought? Trying my new digs, gonna' lose
Google for good.. After all, it's the Anti-Christ according to Tom

Anyway, good seeing you again Harry, PLONK. Buh, bye...

What made you choose eternal september?

On Jul 2, 8:58*pm, Jack wrote:
On Jul 2, 8:44*pm, John...same as yesterday.
wrote:



On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 20:23:49 -0400, Wizard of Woodstock

wrote:
On Thu, 02 Jul 2009 19:50:17 -0400, John...same as yesterday.
wrote:

The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30.
Is it worth it? Thoughts?

Well, consider this - regular old air is 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, 1%
other gases and water vapor.

The advantage of nitrogen is that it won't diffuse through the rubber
because the molecule is bigger.

Personally, air is cheaper and mostly nitrogen anyway.

Hadn't looked at it that way. What I'd be doing is paying $30 for a
change of 22%. Hell, I'll probably be paying a lot more for 'change'
when my next income tax bill comes in.
--

It does help to lighten your car to get better gas mileage.

Your billfold will be lighter.

*:-)

hmmmm, now with that thought.

How do you *KNOW* they actually put nitrogen in them any way???


Could have just put the compressor (if any at all)) to the tires and
took your loot!

Tim wrote:
On Jul 2, 9:42 pm, Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:35:44 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Jul 2, 9:28 pm, "Don White" wrote:
"John...same as yesterday." wrote in messagenews:trhq45h4k7p75tnbfo4fhg3u2catuj9fkc@4ax .com...
The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30.
Is it worth it? Thoughts?
--
John H
The COSTCO store here filled your tires for free. Thay claim you don't lose
air pressure during climate changes. (fall-winter etc)
Well Don, that's what they may claim. But around here, in the late
fall, it seems that when a cold frost hits over night, you can pretty
well expect tires to lose about 10# of pressure a piece.
I don't know about ten pounds, but certainly three or four.

Around here, i can be 6-12. Or in my experience it has been.


Don't you have a set of down-filled jackets for those tires? :)

Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:35:44 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Jul 2, 9:28 pm, "Don White" wrote:
"John...same as yesterday." wrote in messagenews:trhq45h4k7p75tnbfo4fhg3u2catuj9fkc@4ax .com...

The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30.
Is it worth it? Thoughts?
--
John H
The COSTCO store here filled your tires for free. Thay claim you don't lose
air pressure during climate changes. (fall-winter etc)
Well Don, that's what they may claim. But around here, in the late
fall, it seems that when a cold frost hits over night, you can pretty
well expect tires to lose about 10# of pressure a piece.

I don't know about ten pounds, but certainly three or four.

Charles's law associated with Boyle's law

J i m wrote:
JustWait wrote:
HK wrote:
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:35:44 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Jul 2, 9:28 pm, "Don White" wrote:
"John...same as yesterday." wrote in
messagenews:trhq45h4k7p75tnbfo4fhg3u2catuj9fkc@4ax .com...

The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for
$30.
Is it worth it? Thoughts?
--
John H
The COSTCO store here filled your tires for free. Thay claim you
don't lose
air pressure during climate changes. (fall-winter etc)
Well Don, that's what they may claim. But around here, in the late
fall, it seems that when a cold frost hits over night, you can pretty
well expect tires to lose about 10# of pressure a piece.

I don't know about ten pounds, but certainly three or four.


Don't you have those "never lose pressure" etec tires?

Wow, a post by Harry, who'd a thought? Trying my new digs, gonna' lose
Google for good.. After all, it's the Anti-Christ according to Tom

Anyway, good seeing you again Harry, PLONK. Buh, bye...

What made you choose eternal september?

It's free...

On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:35:44 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

Well Don, that's what they may claim. But around here, in the late
fall, it seems that when a cold frost hits over night, you can pretty
well expect tires to lose about 10# of pressure a piece.

If the temperature drops the pressure will to an equal degree. Sprint
car wheels have a valve that releases air as the tires heat up, to
keep the pressure constant. When you park it, things cool, and all the
tires go flat.

Casady

On Jul 2, 10:28*pm, "Don White" wrote:
"John...same as yesterday." wrote in messagenews:trhq45h4k7p75tnbfo4fhg3u2catuj9fkc@4ax .com...

The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30.
Is it worth it? Thoughts?
--
John H

The COSTCO store here filled your tires for free. Thay claim you don't lose
air pressure during climate changes. (fall-winter etc)

If you believe that, you're just plain stupid.

On Jul 2, 10:43*pm, HK wrote:
Wizard of Woodstock wrote:
On Thu, 2 Jul 2009 19:35:44 -0700 (PDT), Tim
wrote:

On Jul 2, 9:28 pm, "Don White" wrote:
"John...same as yesterday." wrote in messagenews:trhq45h4k7p75tnbfo4fhg3u2catuj9fkc@4ax .com...

The local Toyota place will fill all the tires with nitrogen for $30..
Is it worth it? Thoughts?
--
John H
The COSTCO store here filled your tires for free. Thay claim you don't lose
air pressure during climate changes. (fall-winter etc)
Well Don, that's what they may claim. But around here, in the late
fall, it seems that when a cold frost hits over night, you can pretty
well expect tires to lose about 10# of pressure a piece.

I don't know about ten pounds, but certainly three or four.

Don't you have those "never lose pressure" etec tires?- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Harry's vying for Don as the dumbest poster ever.